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I was very impressed at the review posted on Android Police.
It's like they are reviewing a different tablet from the one I have.
It's a shame as people might be discouraged from buying a great product.
I personally wouldn't have bought it base on the article posted.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...iew-an-embarrassing-lazy-arrogant-money-grab/
My response (added to the comments on Android Police)
I do agree with some of the observations made by the reviewr.
However, I do like the tablet a lot, I really wasn't looking to buy a tablet when I drove to Bestbuy, but since my HTC flyer is not performing as it used to, and I love the pen, I decided to go with this one after testing it for a while.
And I have to say I like it, it's plenty fast, I do agree that the multi tasking is more a gimmick, but it's really not the reason why I bought it.
Something I do have to note, mine is not flexible at all, I was really amazed at your video. Mine will not flex or make any sounds. I does looks very plastic, but other than that I have nothing bad to say in regards to the built quality. I do miss the aluminum on my HTC flyer, but the overall construction of this device is really good.
I don't have misaligned issues or parts or corners that look out of place, it feels completely solid.
I guess that different people have different opinions and everyone has different needs or expectations for devices.
I do respect the point of view presented in this article, but also disagree with some of the observations.
I would recommend interested people to actually go and try it out yourself.
Also, something I did notice when I started playing with it, is that mine felt much more heavy compared to the one the Samsung representative had at Bestbuy.
The Samsung lady had a black one what felt surprisingly light, could it bee there is kind of a demo version?
Anyway, the only point I completely agree with reviewer is that the multitasking is only gimmick... other than that my experiences been completely different and I really love the tablet, its my first 10 inch, and my first Samsung tablet, before I had Dell, HTC, and I also own a Nexus 7.
I find the built of the Samsung to be vastly superior of that of the N7.
Read this one from GSMArena. Their very thorough as you'll see (it's 10 pages). I think a lot of reviewers are just assuming the Note's a standard G-Tab with a pen and not really spending the time to appreciate it how well it does the things tablets are primarily used for.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_10_1-review-798.php
In all of those reviews I've been noticing that there are issues not present in retail models. I actually watched a 40min russian review on youtube and they found a lot of problems, including creaking, pen sensor not working correctly and so on. Otherwise, the review was very well done and I tend to trust the reviewer. My feeling is, some of these review units are dodgy, maybe preproduction units.
Yep I went on quite a rant in my response to the review on Android Police Google+ page. I really do not get all the negative reviews of this product.
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I'm just thankful I bought this tablet before reading reviews.
It's fantastic, im thinking of selling my N7, which I also love.
And yes, I agree the are testing preproduction models.
I just hate that they are missleading people which might have bought it.
I haven't used my computer since I bought this beast, I'm having exactly the same internet experience as my pc.
Without the wait of coming up out if hibernation.
One thing that really annoys me about these reviews is their assumption that HD (Infinity) and QVGA (iPad) are the *norm* now. They aren't - the vast majority of tablets in the 10.1 inch size are still 1280x800.
The reviewer is also a bit confused on some key points.
1. The Note 10.1's battery life is actually not that great. It ranks in around 8.5hrs of continuous use on video loop at 50% brightness. The Prime gets 10.5hrs. It seems what that the Note 10.1 does get right is long standby times which is actually very useful since most of us tend to use tablets in 'bursty' ways - off most of the time, then use for a bit then off for a long time.
2. His complaint about the power cord must come from not realising that Galaxy Tabs (of which the Note is one) can use the same peripherals (mostly) including the synch cable. A little digging and he could find a 6' synch/charge cable.
3. I don't have my Note yet - should be here in a few days - but I've fondled a Tab 2 10.1 and the back felt pretty sturdy. As someone else noted, they may have gotten pre-release units. As for 'everyone using aluminum" not really true. Apple does. Asus does on the Prime and Infinity only - the TF300 doesn't. And aluminum on the Prime is why it sucked... it made the GPS unusable. As for the pen feeling like a hollow rod.. if they'd made it heavier - it would have made the tablet heavier.. and you know what his comment would have been then...
4. NFC. Seriously? The lack of NFC was one of his big buttons? I have NFC on my Galaxy Nexus and it's essentially useless. And not for trying. No one else has NFC, so 'bump' is pointless. I can't use it as a credit card replacement. I can't use it to replace my office ID card. I can't find TecTiles at any store - and no one carries any other kind of NFC tokens. I CAN use it to read my British passport, but that gets kind of dull after a while.
5. Camera. This is one of those 'no way to win' things. Yes, I'd be happier if the Note had a 8MP camera. Yet everyone seems to be happy with the Nexus 7 - which has NO back camera. The back camera for me will be mostly for quicky shots and barcoding. How good is it for that? Wellll.. the reviewer was so wrapped up in not looking bad that he couldn't bring himself to test the camera - which makes him a bad reviewer.
And gee - look - once again a reviewer forgets to test GPS, WiFi and BT.
Having come from the Asus Prime disaster - the fact that almost no one here so far has posted any serious issues with the Note 10 gives me confience that this will be a good tablet.
I couldn't stand reading THST android police article. I had to stop after a while. They don't know what the hell they talking about..lol. they seem very biased. I will admit the grey version doesn't look no where near as good as the white one. I agree with THST they likely received a prproduction unit. My plastic back doesn't flex or is wavy. Plus my device right out the box performed well. They went overboard on bashing this device.
I like ASUS and will say Samsung deserves more credit on this tablet. I'm glad I didn't read the reviews also. I just got it off of reading specs, Watching unboxing videos, and Samsung promo videos on it. Those were enough to catch my interest enough to try it out. A very pleasant experience being my first Samsung tablet I've ever used.
These reviewers are too stuck on ipad3 resolutions now. Now if a tablet doesn't have 1080P or better, they write the display off as subpar. 720P is good enough for me as this display isn't your run of the mill 1280x800 dpslay. They did something with it to make it look better than other tabs with same resolution. Maybe its the color reproduction or whatever but I know this display is one of the better ones I've seen. 720P movies and videos/you tube look great on it.
Going to post my response about this here.
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See this type of review makes me really angry. Its ok if a device really sucks but you can cleary tell this guy has a personal vendetta againsr samsung/Touchwiz. I feel if you dont like something then biased opinions should be left out ans they should not review the product. Samsung has been doing touchwiz for a while now ao what made him think that this tablet would come with stock ui. I don't agree with blogs using there popularity to trash a device. Seriously with the picture of the device in the trash. Go back to the laggy xoom.
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Hmmm.
None of samsung and apple devices disappointed me.
I want buy this because of bad review.
I want check it all by myself.
I seem to remember the Asus Transformer Prime getting excellent reviews when it first came out, go figure. One of the worst tablets I ever owned. :/
The Note 10.1 is the best performing Android tablet I've owned so far, no lag at all, everything is fluid.
When did 1080p on a tablet for android become normal?
acer and asus are there any more with that resolution? cause that article makes it seem that is the normal size lol what a boring read
jobryan26 said:
Yep I went on quite a rant in my response to the review on Android Police Google+ page. I really do not get all the negative reviews of this product.
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Haha, me too, I think I spent at least 4 hours today rebutting comments on the article, on Google+, and on reddit. Most reviews miss the point of the Note completely.
Honestly, I think we users of the Note should write our own reviews, especially focusing on how we find the S Pen useful. Like really, we should make an effort to write more balanced reviews of the device and post them on Google+, reddit, etc. and try to clear up some of the misconceptions.
Does anyone else's tablet creak, because mine certainly does not. And I have yet to experience any lag while writing whatsoever, it's as close to real time as I can discern. I also noticed that if you run javascript animations in the browser while multitasking with another app open, they continue in the browser, so it's not an illusion of multitasking by any means. I can even write, with no lag, in S Note, while animations run in the browser.
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habs101 said:
When did 1080p on a tablet for android become normal?
acer and asus are there any more with that resolution? cause that article makes it seem that is the normal size lol
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To be fair, these are the only recent tablets that have come out for $500. I think the point is that at that price they expect a higher resolution, but it's like they expect the S Pen and digitizer to be free, which is incredibly naive.
I think it is good to have a bad review and a good one for the new buyers to find out whats really going on.
Re MSplit Screen
"It only works with the Browser, Polaris Office, S Note, Video Player, Gallery, Email, and that's it. None of those applications are really any good, and I would much rather use Chrome, Google Docs, YouTube, Google Talk, Twitter, and Gmail."
Its a shame to be honets.....it was the reason I wanted to but this tablet.
Do you think guys that custom Roms make it possible for Gmail, Chrome etc?
Same for this one from PC World Australia : (I cannot post direct links yet...)
pcworld.idg.com.au/article/434234/samsung_galaxy_note_10_1_android_tablet/
It seems that the guy who made this review didn't get ANY thing about this tab
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I think it is good to have a bad review and a good one for the new buyers to find out whats really going on.
Re MSplit Screen
"It only works with the Browser, Polaris Office, S Note, Video Player, Gallery, Email, and that's it. None of those applications are really any good, and I would much rather use Chrome, Google Docs, YouTube, Google Talk, Twitter, and Gmail."
Its a shame to be honets.....it was the reason I wanted to but this tablet.
Do you think guys that custom Roms make it possible for Gmail, Chrome etc?
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I think the point is that the review is bad in that it's incomplete and/or misguided and/or biased, not that it's a negative review. As in, the assessment is not accurate and thus should not be used as a recommendation for or against the device. That's how I feel, anyway.
It's currently not possible for other apps, and I doubt any implementation based on the Touchwiz implementation will happen (that's a crapton of smali hacking) but I have a feeling CM10 will actually incorporate some sort of multitasking, as Cyanogen himself stated that he wanted to incorporate Onskreen Cornerstone, or at least similar functionality, into CM9 way back in February.
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Do you think guys that custom Roms make it possible for Gmail, Chrome etc?
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Regarding split screen... just step back and think for a short moment... and you will understand that the custom rom developers would need to heavily modify Android itself.
The display of information on the screen is a core os function. Having more than one app simultanously using the screen requires changes in the Android core. Otherweise this featute will be limited to special versions of Android (like TouchWiz) and special app using it. These special version will delay Android updates as they need to be adapted to major Android releases until they work again.
Android was designed for small screens of smartphones controlled with fingers. Starting with HC on tablets, Google should have implemented this, but it obviously did not happen.
And the feature is rarely useable on a normal smartphone...
You mean the same guys who justified the 8GB in a Nexus7 WITHOUT micro-SD card slot:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-expandable-storage-and-why-its-for-the-best/
Those guys are pure attention-grabbers. Just check the number of comments in that review and compare it against other reviews. They were also *****ing a lot about GS3 menu choice. This is like a bimbo threatening to run naked to grab your attention and get advertisement-clicks in his article.
As I recall the reviewers HATED the Note and it went on to record sales.
You have to undertstand that tech reviewers have a couple disadvantages. Quite often they are reviewing buggy pre-release hardware. Next they tend to be spec nerds. They focus more on pure specs than does the damn thing actually work for people.
Honestly who cares what they say? If I wanted an iPad I would have bought one. Face it, by this time next year everything that is awesome now will suck by comparison.
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The most shocking thing in those reviews is "oh, and it has an S Pen, you can take notes with it" like it was less important than for example number of megapixels in the rear camera. Even the positive reviews mostly ignore S Pen.
Actually, when reading the review - I didn't finish it though, too annoying - the picture of one of these little dogs that tend to bark at anybody and everything kept appearing in front of my inner eye ... this Amadeo guy must be one of these short people.
I couldn't care less for NFC. And resolution, oh my. Everything about this was already stated here. I care for the pen. And that works good enough
Hello I'm having the hardest time deciding if I should wait to upgrade since the galaxy s5 and htc one/two are right around the corner or if I should just get the G2 for Christmas. The G2 seems like a great phone but it also seems to have it's fair share of issues, I'm worried that something much better might come out within a month or two. Anyway just looking for advice thanks!
luke10702 said:
Hello I'm having the hardest time deciding if I should wait to upgrade since the galaxy s5 and htc one/two are right around the corner or if I should just get the G2 for Christmas. The G2 seems like a great phone but it also seems to have it's fair share of issues, I'm worried that something much better might come out within a month or two. Anyway just looking for advice thanks!
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What are the issues that concern you?
Seriously what issues?
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What are the issues that concern you?
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I've been reading through some of the forums and heard that external speakerphone has very low decibel levels,camera video is poor quality due to shaky focus, and the knock-ON feature doesn't work reliably. One other thing that concerns me is android development behind the phone since it's not that popular. Also the design could be better but the screen is gorgeous.
My 2c. There is no perfect phone. IPhone, Samsung, lg, HTC, they all have their quirks and disappointments. But it's matter of if you can find a way to overcome it.
Camera is fantastic. And you being here means you are willing to do more than just complain. Root, remove bloat, update camera app. Knock 3 times instead of 2.
And personally if you do more than just play with your phone, ie use for work. Custom ROM other than modified stock ROM will just be way too buggy.
My honest opinion is that they are really 3 viable Android phones out there. The Sony Z, nexus5 and G2. After having gone through several Samsung phones, I'll never buy another Samsung.
Between the 3 above get the lg if battery life is important to you. Because that is the only thing you absolutely cannot change.
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insang-droid said:
My 2c. There is no perfect phone. IPhone, Samsung, lg, HTC, they all have their quirks and disappointments. But it's matter of if you can find a way to overcome it.
Camera is fantastic. And you being here means you are willing to do more than just complain. Root, remove bloat, update camera app. Knock 3 times instead of 2.
And personally if you do more than just play with your phone, ie use for work. Custom ROM other than modified stock ROM will just be way too buggy.
My honest opinion is that they are really 3 viable Android phones out there. The Sony Z, nexus5 and G2. After having gone through several Samsung phones, I'll never buy another Samsung.
Between the 3 above get the lg if battery life is important to you. Because that is the only thing you absolutely cannot change.
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These are all good points, just one more question then, if roms you think will be too buggy how is lg at updating to the latest version of android?
LG G2 is an outstanding choice for now, IMHO.
I realized that no matter how attractive a new phone's reviews or announcements get, there would always be a few minor issues or dislikes rising up after a couple of weeks hands-on playing. Phones are not designed by end users and LG team got to stick with their budgets and timeline.
G2 camera appeared very impressive me. "Optical" image stabilizer is a bonus point making the difference - simply with default app and settings, it can make awesome low-light/indoor photos. I was able to take a few decent photos when lights were really dim. Read some posts about its focusing speed as capturing moving objects in low lighting; no chance to try that yet but that task sounded quite a challenge to any phone cameras.
The only two issues caught my attention in daily uses are the screen flickering happening in certain places caused by the so called content adaptive back-lighting, and the brightness sensor output. Both are only noticeable in low-light settings and easy to work around them. Some said the content adaptive lighting is due to JB 4.22 OS. Hope a firmware/OS update will soon refine the g2.
Improve Photos on LG G2 Photos with Jishnu’s Camera Mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48490991#post48490991
LG G2 Screen Brightness PROBLEM .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slwkFhpiYbs
Brightness sensor readings
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48490991#post48490991
G2 feels an ambitious and strong strike from LG. As a flagship model, the design and implementation could be further polished if bosses gave the team more time to work on it, well then we probably had to pay more bucks for having one...
harmonyxda said:
LG G2 is an outstanding choice for now, IMHO.
I realized that no matter how attractive a new phone's reviews or announcements get, there would always be a few minor issues or dislikes rising up after a couple of weeks hands-on playing. Phones are not designed by end users and LG team got to stick with their budgets and timeline.
G2 camera appeared very impressive me. "Optical" image stabilizer is a bonus point making the difference - simply with default app and settings, it can make awesome low-light/indoor photos. I was able to take a few decent photos when lights were really dim. Read some posts about its focusing speed as capturing moving objects in low lighting; no chance to try that yet but that task sounded quite a challenge to any phone cameras.
The only two issues caught my attention in daily uses are the screen flickering happening in certain places caused by the so called content adaptive back-lighting, and the brightness sensor output. Both are only noticeable in low-light settings and easy to work around them. Some said the content adaptive lighting is due to JB 4.22 OS. Hope a firmware/OS update will soon refine the g2.
Improve Photos on LG G2 Photos with Jishnu’s Camera Mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48490991#post48490991
LG G2 Screen Brightness PROBLEM .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slwkFhpiYbs
Brightness sensor readings
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48490991#post48490991
G2 feels an ambitious and strong strike from LG. As a flagship model, the design and implementation could be further polished if bosses gave the team more time to work on it, well then we probably had to pay more bucks for having one...
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So are you trying to say i should wait? or buy? I'm feeling the vibe from both from what you said, which was very interesting.
luke10702 said:
Hello I'm having the hardest time deciding if I should wait to upgrade since the galaxy s5 and htc one/two are right around the corner or if I should just get the G2 for Christmas. The G2 seems like a great phone but it also seems to have it's fair share of issues, I'm worried that something much better might come out within a month or two. Anyway just looking for advice thanks!
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I was in the same boat as you 2 weeks ago, but AT&T changing their prices on the family plan forced me to get the LG G2. Some of the concerns I had before getting it are somewhat still there, especially the camera performance in low light. I haven't had any battery drain issues yet and so far battery life has been fantastic. back buttons aren't that bad, the placement makes sense sometimes, especially when you are on a call. knock on/off feature is great as well but as others have said, it doesn't work 100% of the time. Overall, it's a fantastic phone & i'm glad I got it.
Don't torture yourself by waiting. This phone is a beast...AND I've yet to install a custom ROM!
luke10702 said:
I've been reading through some of the forums and heard that external speakerphone has very low decibel levels,camera video is poor quality due to shaky focus, and the knock-ON feature doesn't work reliably. One other thing that concerns me is android development behind the phone since it's not that popular. Also the design could be better but the screen is gorgeous.
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Yes, the speaker is a little bit tinny, but it's not that quiet, I'd say it's fine. Camera video focus problems happen occasionally, nothing that a camera firmware update won't fix. Knock On works fine when you get the hang of it. This phone has a bunch of ROMs, but to be honest - you don't really need them. I got this phone and I left it completely stock and just rooted it - it's THAT good.
What's wrong with the design? I think it's a good looking phone.
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Yes, the speaker is a little bit tinny, but it's not that quiet, I'd say it's fine. Camera video focus problems happen occasionally, nothing that a camera firmware update won't fix. Knock On works fine when you get the hang of it. This phone has a bunch of ROMs, but to be honest - you don't really need them. I got this phone and I left it completely stock and just rooted it - it's THAT good.
What's wrong with the design? I think it's a good looking phone.
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So it seems like it's an amazing phone but how do you think it will compete going into 2014??
robogo1982 said:
Yes, the speaker is a little bit tinny, but it's not that quiet, I'd say it's fine. Camera video focus problems happen occasionally, nothing that a camera firmware update won't fix. Knock On works fine when you get the hang of it. This phone has a bunch of ROMs, but to be honest - you don't really need them. I got this phone and I left it completely stock and just rooted it - it's THAT good.
What's wrong with the design? I think it's a good looking phone.
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Same here stock rooted; was thinking about a prettier launcher replacement but like to stay with some of the stock features. Always use the knock on without touching the power button now - very convenient design.
Increase speaker volume - two xda posts about an easy fix by editing the file snd_soc_msm_Taiko:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2442883
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2482750
I just push the back button to increase in-call volume to max when needed.
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luke10702 said:
So are you trying to say i should wait? or buy? I'm feeling the vibe from both from what you said, which was very interesting.
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That was just purely experience sharing for your reference. You'll get a great phone in either case.
My plan-renewal credit was available since July but htc one or s4 didn't make the urge for me to upgrade the phone, until last month I grabbed the G2 with a price tag of $50.
I'm posting this as i think Sony doesn't know what they are doing anymore, they are not in control of their mobile dev department, its a real mess.
After years of experiencing android market, Sony reinventing the wheel every time they come up with something new, the latest example is the Z5 series
they released a device with half a day battery life under fair usage, they are marketing it as a 2 days battery ready
they forgot to add the correct drivers for the bluetooth and wifi, that's why the bower consumption is really high when both left on without connecting to BT headset or Wi-Fi
the camera is far from the expectations, lagy, hardly focus, image optimization is at the worst, extremely noisy, file size is at the highest, please do a fair comparison between this camera and any other mid-range device, even Huawei doing much better than Sony camera, the weird thing is they are selling their camera module to most of the high-end manufacturers, but others knows how to perfectly use this module.
even their own apps like "Smart Connect" it doesn't trigger the required action upon device pairing to a bluetooth for example
Stamina Clock disconnects the mobile data believe me it does
"Adaptive Brightness" is not correctly functioning, it extremely exposure the screen brightness for seconds before it detects the correct settings
sound drivers are sh*^%&t, stereo speakers are not well calibrated, and after every Facebook call or disconnecting noise cancelling headset, I have to readjust ringer and call volumes again
Sony fans stay away please, no need for (my device lasts for full 5 years with only 10% battery) as this is a lie, I factory rest and repaired my device 6 times with all possible settings before I post this, this post is not for you guys, I was a Sony fan, starting from Xperia Z, Z1, Z2, Z3, and finally this sh%^ty Z5P, and unfortunately am an advanced user and i know Sony mobiles behavior
Good luck everyone, stay away from Sony mobiles this year if you care about your money, you won't be satisfied unless you are a beginner, or you have the patience to wait for months for an update to fix a bug and bug another, till finally after ages they fix their firmware.
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hahah you sure bro ? you got all that problem in your phone ? is that even legit Sony product or maybe you buy the cloned one hahahha . I think the problem is you or let's say your phone only because every error that you mentioned is all just story .
1. My phone takes almost 2 day before it drain : game , facebook , music . Also i think you need to learn to read , Sony announced it 2days in Standby mode , really are you fan of Sony . Nice story .
2.Do you know the correct drivers your talking about ? My wifi is on always i dont get that problem.
3. LMAO the CAMERA this one , really ? Sony Camera is SUPERB ! Even my friends who used Samsung , Iphones they know Z5 Camera is better . This the best hahaha .
4.Smart Connect ? Even this one you got problem hahahahah !
5.I used Stamina Clock and I can still use mobile data with LTE .
6.The adaptive brightness is very good also . You know i dont know whats your problem retarded hahaha .
7.Lastly the Music , ow common . Sony's Stereo is great .
Dont listen to this guy claiming he is a Sony Fan hahahah . Its easy to say that your a Sony Fan . Actually your a great Story Teller on the other side . Laughing very hard to this post haha . Almost all the details in the phone you got the problem seriously ? Your too obvious . I pity you , all story that you mentioned i didnt even got one . I hope i have atleast one ! hahahah
True Sony Z5 Series Xperia User can tell it . I know others will get some problems just like all other phones but not all the problems that you mentioned . Cool Story Bro ! Cheers
Im very proud with this phone.
Z5 Premium Dual User
Lucky you, none even one problem with your Xperia Z5P, that's cool while Sony knows these issues and promising for an upcoming update to fix these issues, you -the only one on planet- who has none of the above at all, and I'm the story teller??
please check the following:
a professional reply from Sony here, not a childish one as yours (the guy with no issues) https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xper...isappointed/m-p/1071489/highlight/false#M5004 check Sony reply and awareness of these issues
Adaptive Brightness Issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/help/screen-looking-washed-t3265869
Stareo Speakers Issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/general/sound-problem-z5-premium-t3264852
these are just examples, i can post tons of links
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Lucky you, none even one problem with your Xperia Z5P, that's cool while Sony knows these issues and promising for an upcoming update to fix these issues, you -the only one on planet- who has none of the above at all, and I'm the story teller??
please check the following:
a professional reply from Sony here, not a childish one as yours (the guy with no issues) https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xper...isappointed/m-p/1071489/highlight/false#M5004 check Sony reply and awareness of these issues
Adaptive Brightness Issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/help/screen-looking-washed-t3265869
Stareo Speakers Issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/general/sound-problem-z5-premium-t3264852
these are just examples, i can post tons of links
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You sound like a fairly smart and technical dude so I'll give u the benefit of the doubt and try to stay constructive.
There are a number of quirks with the Z5P that we all wished were not there, just like there are many quirks with every single phone in it's first months of release
There will be fixes for the MINOR bugs you are mentioning and there is no reason to blow it out of proportion like a teenager on her first period. I mean if Smart Connect, adaptive brightness(no issue here), Stamina clock and readjusting volume after FB call is you idea of "STAY AWAY FROM SONY" issues, I think you have some serious unresolved ones. Not trying to offend you, just a friendly observation.
As far as camera, battery and wireless drivers(?!), you either got a faulty device, or you are smoking some fine dope and I want in on it
Camera pics (low light especially) made a pal of mine switch to Z5 from an iPhone. I was at a party on Saturday and people were borrowing my phone to take pics and send to themselves afterwards. As objective as it comes. .
I haven't switched off BT or WiFi ever since I became a Sony user(Z, Z1, Z2). Z5P does noticeably worse than my Z2, which was a power stamina beast, but it still holds up to the two day promise Sony makes (~4 hours of screen time, stamina mode - On, wifi/BT - On, adaptive brightness set to medium). I easily start a morning with 100% and last to next day evening. I am not a power user and rarely play games on it, so if you do, I can see your frustration. The Snapdragon 810 is infamous with its power starve.
As for the "tons" of links with bad feedback, it is true for every single piece of hardware. Simple human behavior is that they rarely write on a forum about a positive experience.
My advice is, write down all the issues you are having, send back your phone for a warranty service (even invent a few if it helps your case) and see if they can swap it.
Otherwise you can keep whining and badmouthing, it's your choice, but it's also no way to live a life Put a nice smile on and make it better
Cheers
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You sound like a fairly smart and technical dude so I'll give u the benefit of the doubt and try to stay constructive.
There are a number of quirks with the Z5P that we all wished were not there, just like there are many quirks with every single phone in it's first months of release
There will be fixes for the MINOR bugs you are mentioning and there is no reason to blow it out of proportion like a teenager on her first period. I mean if Smart Connect, adaptive brightness(no issue here), Stamina clock and readjusting volume after FB call is you idea of "STAY AWAY FROM SONY" issues, I think you have some serious unresolved ones. Not trying to offend you, just a friendly observation.
As far as camera, battery and wireless drivers(?!), you either got a faulty device, or you are smoking some fine dope and I want in on it
Camera pics (low light especially) made a pal of mine switch to Z5 from an iPhone. I was at a party on Saturday and people were borrowing my phone to take pics and send to themselves afterwards. As objective as it comes. .
I haven't switched off BT or WiFi ever since I became a Sony user(Z, Z1, Z2). Z5P does noticeably worse than my Z2, which was a power stamina beast, but it still holds up to the two day promise Sony makes (~4 hours of screen time, stamina mode - On, wifi/BT - On, adaptive brightness set to medium). I easily start a morning with 100% and last to next day evening. I am not a power user and rarely play games on it, so if you do, I can see your frustration. The Snapdragon 810 is infamous with its power starve.
As for the "tons" of links with bad feedback, it is true for every single piece of hardware. Simple human behavior is that they rarely write on a forum about a positive experience.
My advice is, write down all the issues you are having, send back your phone for a warranty service (even invent a few if it helps your case) and see if they can swap it.
Otherwise you can keep whining and badmouthing, it's your choice, but it's also no way to live a life Put a nice smile on and make it better
Cheers
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I'm on the fence on choosing a z5premium or a iPhone 6s plus. ..which one do you think I should get? How's the front camera on the z5premium I'm into social media and use snap chat alot so I want a good selfie camera. .as well as a good rear camera and how long do you guys think the next premium model drops ?
Which version of the premium do you have? Is it dual? Is it E6883? I wonder if bugs are only in certain versions of the phone. Especially the battery issue. I got the dual E6883 and I feel like the battery is not lasting how it should.
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I'm on the fence on choosing a z5premium or a iPhone 6s plus. ..which one do you think I should get? How's the front camera on the z5premium I'm into social media and use snap chat alot so I want a good selfie camera. .as well as a good rear camera and how long do you guys think the next premium model drops ?
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Both have a good front facing camera. The Sony one captures a little more (wider lens) but the quality is not different enough to drive a decision. Right now, before a Firmware update, you'll be happier with the 6s Plus.
After Sony releases a couple of updates, I think the Sony will be the better phone.
The rear camera is better on the Sony but that is subjective to my picture preferences. On the objective side, Sony's lenses are much wider and capture more of the scene and it has a camera button, which I wouldn't swap for anything. the 6s Plus does have OIS tho. Videos tend to be a little less shaky.
pick the one u like in your hand. I am not a fan of apple's product line but that's on a personal level so I can't recommend against it.
gd luck
P.S. If you'r not in a hurry, my advice is - wait till spring. The Z6 line will be a lot better. Rumors are there will be 5 screen sizes to pick from and lot of goodies. And in case they suck, you can grab the Z5P cheaper. The only reason I got mine was a random Black Friday promo for 50% off
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Both have a good front facing camera. The Sony one captures a little more (wider lens) but the quality is not different enough to drive a decision. Right now, before a Firmware update, you'll be happier with the 6s Plus.
After Sony releases a couple of updates, I think the Sony will be the better phone.
The rear camera is better on the Sony but that is subjective to my picture preferences. On the objective side, Sony's lenses are much wider and capture more of the scene and it has a camera button, which I wouldn't swap for anything the 6s Plus does have OIS tho. Videos tend to be a little less shaky.
pick the one u like in your hand. I am not a fan of apple's product line but that's on a personal level so I can't recommend against it
gd luck
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Probably when the marshmallow update drops soon it will be alot better huh? Yeah the camera button would be nice !! i wanted a rear camera closest to a dslr so the z5p is probably that. I heard the z5p has a better stabilizer..Do you think a new model z5p will drop soon? i guess thats my main concern, i dont want the phone to depreciate after Christmas and i know iphones dont hardly do that haha. Hows your battery life ??
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bahkata said:
Both have a good front facing camera. The Sony one captures a little more (wider lens) but the quality is not different enough to drive a decision. Right now, before a Firmware update, you'll be happier with the 6s Plus.
After Sony releases a couple of updates, I think the Sony will be the better phone.
The rear camera is better on the Sony but that is subjective to my picture preferences. On the objective side, Sony's lenses are much wider and capture more of the scene and it has a camera button, which I wouldn't swap for anything. the 6s Plus does have OIS tho. Videos tend to be a little less shaky.
pick the one u like in your hand. I am not a fan of apple's product line but that's on a personal level so I can't recommend against it.
gd luck
P.S. If you'r not in a hurry, my advice is - wait till spring. The Z6 line will be a lot better. Rumors are there will be 5 screen sizes to pick from and lot of goodies. And in case they suck, you can grab the Z5P cheaper. The only reason I got mine was a random Black Friday promo for 50% off
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edit: Do they still have that black friday promo? lol and i should probably get a iphone 6s plus then since i can easily resell it for alot (seem to hold value). i found a 6s plus 128gb for $700 new
Nah, was just a 12 hour promo on a Swedish provider
If u want to hold value, iPhone would be a better option. U'll be happy with both.
Battery is fine. I miss my Z2's marathon stamina but I easily get two days and it will get better with andro M.
In the end, its a lifestyle choice, dude. They cover different needs and have a different customer base. If u want pretty, shiny and easy to use - go 6s Plus. If u want to tinker, customize and a more real experience in a tougher shell - its Sony. Go play with both of them in a store.
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Nah, was just a 12 hour promo on a Swedish provider
If u want to hold value, iPhone would be a better option. U'll be happy with both.
Battery is fine. I miss my Z2's marathon stamina but I easily get two days and it will get better with andro M.
In the end, its a lifestyle choice, dude. They cover different needs and have a different customer base. If u want pretty, shiny and easy to use - go 6s Plus. If u want to tinker, customize and a more real experience in a tougher shell - its Sony. Go play with both of them in a store.
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2 days seems amazing, on my s6 edge plus i sold i got around 10hrs only with probably 2-3sot. Guess i gotta think this through lol... do you have any camera samples? or any samples on instagram or something ?
Thats quite disappointing. People here don't like it when they get "only" 4-5 hrs SOT on the Z5P
check here -> http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z5_premium-review-1344.php
loads of samples and a decent review
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You sound like a fairly smart and technical dude so I'll give u the benefit of the doubt and try to stay constructive.
There are a number of quirks with the Z5P that we all wished were not there, just like there are many quirks with every single phone in it's first months of release
There will be fixes for the MINOR bugs you are mentioning and there is no reason to blow it out of proportion like a teenager on her first period. I mean if Smart Connect, adaptive brightness(no issue here), Stamina clock and readjusting volume after FB call is you idea of "STAY AWAY FROM SONY" issues, I think you have some serious unresolved ones. Not trying to offend you, just a friendly observation.
As far as camera, battery and wireless drivers(?!), you either got a faulty device, or you are smoking some fine dope and I want in on it
Camera pics (low light especially) made a pal of mine switch to Z5 from an iPhone. I was at a party on Saturday and people were borrowing my phone to take pics and send to themselves afterwards. As objective as it comes. .
I haven't switched off BT or WiFi ever since I became a Sony user(Z, Z1, Z2). Z5P does noticeably worse than my Z2, which was a power stamina beast, but it still holds up to the two day promise Sony makes (~4 hours of screen time, stamina mode - On, wifi/BT - On, adaptive brightness set to medium). I easily start a morning with 100% and last to next day evening. I am not a power user and rarely play games on it, so if you do, I can see your frustration. The Snapdragon 810 is infamous with its power starve.
As for the "tons" of links with bad feedback, it is true for every single piece of hardware. Simple human behavior is that they rarely write on a forum about a positive experience.
My advice is, write down all the issues you are having, send back your phone for a warranty service (even invent a few if it helps your case) and see if they can swap it.
Otherwise you can keep whining and badmouthing, it's your choice, but it's also no way to live a life Put a nice smile on and make it better
Cheers
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Thanks man for your reply, but when you pay around $850 to get a Z5P in my country -with no warranty BTW-, and after days of waiting for it to be delivered to find out you've paid this for a downgraded version of your current device (Z3) which lasts easily for a day with heavy use, most of issues were fixed (except for the call and ring volumes and Smart connect actions), battery smooth UI, no lags, fair camera, ...etc, imagine the impression man, paying such amount of money to be downgraded to half a day battery usage, software issues here and there, practically same camera results.
add to this, being in a poor country, no Sony support, all the above issues are hidden to the normal user, advanced digging needed to reach out for solutions, this is not like a teenager on her first period, this is called disappointment
Hossam.Abdelsalam said:
Thanks man for your reply, but when you pay around $850 to get a Z5P in my country -with no warranty BTW-, and after days of waiting for it to be delivered to find out you've paid this for a downgraded version of your current device (Z3) which lasts easily for a day with heavy use, most of issues were fixed (except for the call and ring volumes and Smart connect actions), battery smooth UI, no lags, fair camera, ...etc, imagine the impression man, paying such amount of money to be downgraded to half a day battery usage, software issues here and there, practically same camera results.
add to this, being in a poor country, no Sony support, all the above issues are hidden to the normal user, advanced digging needed to reach out for solutions, this is not like a teenager on her first period, this is called disappointment
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Im originally from Bulgaria, mate. I don't have to imagine. But being from the third world you must also be aware that the lowest quality batches get send there and you need to be extra careful. As far as warranty goes, there is no such thing as "no warranty" with a big name brand. You can always send it to a Sony service center outside your country. You just have to communicate that through the correct channels. I managed to do it with a Nokia and a Samsung in my teens. You are a big boy, you'll figure it out
Now the disappointment part. It's not the feeling I am referring to. It's the process you are going through to handle it. This is a forum where people come together to be helpful/get help. Thanks to topics and posts like yours it is becoming a mundane and unhelpful place where people come to vent and whine without really seeking a solution, which makes it a less helpful place. Essentially you are making the world a ****tier place. By a very little amount of course, but it contributes
What was wrong with posting in the Q&A, troubleshooting section, explaining your problems and ask nicely if people have the same and what could be a solution?
Also don't be mad at Yolo. He has the right to be frustrated, just cannot express it very well.
I have the 6853 and honestly it works great... The camera is definitely better than the iPhone 6S+...my wife uses that and I took a ton of pictures using both...the Sony is considerably better...no phone is perfect but right now I don't think there's anything better than the Z5P...Android M will be out soon and it will only get better...the one thing that Sony is wrong on is Battery....as a heavy user, I get one full day usage, not 2...but its usually hovering around 15-20% when I finally put it back on the charger...another thing I noticed was that Sony's quick charger is slower than others...I have a $9 certified Qualcomm quick charger I got from Amazon that charges the phone from 2-3% to 100% in one hour...and I get it up to like 70% in 30-35 minutes.
Only battery drain a little bit too fast other then is perfect for me.
Before z5p I had use moto x prue ,nexus 6p, lumia 950xl but I feel z5p is better one
i've used the z, z1, z ultra (still have this beast), z3, z3 tablet compact, and recently got the z5 premium.
I've never gotten a lemon in any of those devices, and none of those problems happened to me before.
the z5 premium's performance is blowing all those out of the waters now so I guess I'm just one lucky son of a gun
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i've used the z, z1, z ultra (still have this beast), z3, z3 tablet compact, and recently got the z5 premium.
I've never gotten a lemon in any of those devices, and none of those problems happened to me before.
the z5 premium's performance is blowing all those out of the waters now so I guess I'm just one lucky son of a gun
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I am still using my Z1 and it has never had a single issue in over two years but I am contemplating getting the Z5 Premium in black.
How would you rate it next to the Z1, take into consideration that o have not used or owned any other Z series device.
Would it be a massive jump and difference in user experience, in a positive manner?
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I'm on the fence on choosing a z5premium or a iPhone 6s plus. ..which one do you think I should get? How's the front camera on the z5premium I'm into social media and use snap chat alot so I want a good selfie camera. .as well as a good rear camera and how long do you guys think the next premium model drops ?
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I'll be brutally honest here. Go with the iPhone. It's the best phone for social media. I've been using the Z5premium for a little longer than a week now and I can tell you that the front facing camera is definitely not as good as the one on the iPhone. It also doesn't take pictures as fast as the iPhone does. However I will say that the Z5's rear camera does take better photos than the iPhone, albeit slower due to post-processing.
There's also a weird glitch with the camera when taking videos of extremely detailed subjects on Snapchat. I don't know when this will be fixed, but I do know that it looks distorted and really weird. I wish I could show you a sample, but the snap was a few days ago.
This is not to say that I don't love this phone though. For more reasons I like this phone better than my iPhone. There are just a few things that the iPhone simply does better. But hey, no phone is perfect.
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I'll be brutally honest here. Go with the iPhone. It's the best phone for social media. I've been using the Z5premium for a little longer than a week now and I can tell you that the front facing camera is definitely not as good as the one on the iPhone. It also doesn't take pictures as fast as the iPhone does. However I will say that the Z5's rear camera does take better photos than the iPhone, albeit slower due to post-processing.
There's also a weird glitch with the camera when taking videos of extremely detailed subjects on Snapchat. I don't know when this will be fixed, but I do know that it looks distorted and really weird. I wish I could show you a sample, but the snap was a few days ago.
This is not to say that I don't love this phone though. For more reasons I like this phone better than my iPhone. There are just a few things that the iPhone simply does better. But hey, no phone is perfect.
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i ended up ordering a 6s+ on ebay haha thanks for replying back! I know exactly what you mean, they haven't optimized the camera yet for snapchat i had that happen with my old g4 ..only way to fix that is to use the 3rd party snapchat app called "casper" it allows you to use original camera app. idk what it is but iphones always tend to have the better front camera even with being a lower resolution. Main reason i did not get the z5p is because there is rumors with the z6 plus/ultra coming out soon so i would rather stick with something that wont depreciate yenno
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While I know there aren't a large number of Pixel owners considering jumping to the LG G6, I'm one who is open to it. I stumbled across this guy's comparison video to give me a good idea of exactly what the switch would look like for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLfhhv5c0wI
Beneftis of the LG G6:
- That beautiful screen with very small bezels
- The (dual) cameras
- Wireless charging (why did this go away with recent Nexus/Pixel devices?)
- IP68 Water resistance
However, I don't understand why LG and Samsung still find it necessary to apply their own skins/software over what is already an excellent and fluid experience with pure Android. The reality is that this alone will likely end up being the deal breaker for me. Especially as I watch my wife's 2 month old Galaxy S7 lag like crazy under very simple tasks. If LG/Samsung got their heads out of their butts and figured out that if they kept their hands off the software, there wouldn't even be a need for the Nexus/Pixel lines.
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I don't understand why LG and Samsung still find it necessary to apply their own skins/software over what is already an excellent and fluid experience with pure Android.
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I believe this is one of the great things about Android that brings in so many new features. If everyone ran stock Android, the only people thinking up new ideas would be Google themselves. However when you let Samsung, LG, HTC, etc. put their own twists on Android, the whole community gets to see new ideas that they never thought of before. Many of these are useless gimmicks, but others are incredibly useful. Just to name a few features that custom skins introduced that pure Android did not have at the time:
Quick toggles
Multi-window
Clear all recent apps
Double tap to wake
Always on display
Reset option in the power menu
Flashlight
Double tap home button / twist to launch camera
I'm sure there are tons more, but that's just the top of my head.
I forgot about LG's implementation of Double Tap to Wake. I had that on my G4 and it was flawless. The same feature on my Google Pixel works maybe 50% of the time. I miss the G4 for that.
I just wish they could implement their own software without adding UI lag along with it. It seems to happen no matter how much faster the internal hardware gets on these phones. Maybe that will change with the G6. We shall see.
If only I could find someone who would get a G6 and trade me for my pixel.
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If only I could find someone who would get a G6 and trade me for my pixel.
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You could always sell yours on Swappa and buy a G6.
It looks nice. I don't like the UI and I'm sure it will have reboot issues like all the recent LG devices. Another thing to consider is that the Pixel devices will always be on the latest version of Android. with the G6 who knows when it will get 7.1.2 or Android O, whatever the case may be. And while the 18:9 aspect ratio on the G6 is cool, I don't expect other manufacturers to follow suit. It's probably another gimmick.
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You could always sell yours on Swappa and buy a G6.
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True. I can't check right now but I'd be curious how much I could get for a 32GB black Pixel in 100% perfect condition (literally just like out of the box) with an unlocked bootloader... Compared to how much a G6 would be
I had the first android G1, but around 2011 I went full time IOS. I'm a power user for work and play. I still get back to every Samsung flagship to give Android a try, though not yet the s8- I'm not paying full price for flagships anymore.
Please help me figure out why android is so close to iOS, but just not there- maybe it's the settings or the apps.
So in my work I often am in and out of the car, and I usually have streaming media of some kind, usually podcasts. In my opinion this is where iOS really
Shines through with excellence and a seamless trouble free experience.
Yesterday I'm listening to podcast via Bluetooth (I also have a newer car with CarPlay, but I've never used with android, but I do with my iOS work phone).... I get out of the car and obviously the podcast stops.
I get back in the car and an app I use for work s-h-o-u-l-d let your navigate to an address and automatically open google maps and navigate. Google maps opens but just hangs there- never pulls the address from the app and never starts to navigate. Okay fine- so I type the unique address (getting irritable) into google maps and move on.
With iOS, that podcast would have started by now also. Does it? Nope. I can see from my on screen display the podcast name, and when I press play, does it start? Nope. Never started in the 25 minute drive. I could have opened the podcast app (which by the way- please tell me what is the BEST one for android, maybe that is the problem), but part of the experience you want the phone to bring is that you don't kill yourself swiping around on the phone while driving .
Then there's the camera. I bought a used iPhone SE for 150 and it beats this G5 camera all day long it seems. I understand there are some custom settings maybe, so I'll give the camera some time.
Oh, and then I was really hoping the G5 would have a working hotspot out of the box for my cricket unlimited plan, but that will probably come with a non-root work around after this phone is around awhile?
I packaged the G5 up for return to amazon, but I can't return. I'm wanting to give it a try. Any suggestions on the the things I need?
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you are comparing a second hand Ferrari to brand new honda. even if Ferrari is cheaper you won't get the same experience on honda.
that SE has better cpu/gpu (running on lower res screen), camera and costs more ( brand new), g5 has mid range specs. how can it give you same experience lol.
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you are comparing a second hand Ferrari to brand new honda. even if Ferrari is cheaper you won't get the same experience on honda.
that SE has better cpu/gpu (running on lower res screen), camera and costs more ( brand new), g5 has mid range specs. how can it give you same experience lol.
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Good analysis. And later I did try androids CarPlay and didn't like that either
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I have to deal with them daily, as my wife will only carry an iPhone.. iPhone does excel in some things over Android, but part of that is because it is so locked down, but is sub par to some things that Android is great at. CarPlay is designed to make the in-car experience better, and does a great job at it. android auto does some things the same, but it is not great by any means. iOS may be better at this particular thing, but is worse at every day things compared to android, IMO.
I went ahead and bought the G5 Plus because I read that it "has the same [camera] sensor chip as the S7"
I've read several different users reporting being disappointed with the phone's camera - we'll have to wait for some third party camera/custom ROM with good camera to extract the full potential from this camera sensor?
Does it just have a crappy lens?!?
Will give it some time before I pass judgement on the camera quality - but yes, I do expect to get better pictures from this phone than from an older model iPhone.
On the plus side, I have noticed that the phone does not heat up like all my previous Android phones did when running games like Clash of Clans - I assume this is due to how efficient the 625 CPU is. Everything I've tried running on the phone so far runs fast and the phone stays cool.
I had assumed, since this is an "unlockable" Motorola phone with a presumably fairly "vanilla" version of Android that tethering would not be a problem, however, if it proves to be difficult to get tethering to work I will have to return the phone - that's a basic "must have" feature for me, and really, should be easy and convenient for EVERY smart phone owner. The FCC does not want cell phone companies to limit/control/restrict customer's use of the data based on what they are using the data for - when providers bought new "bands" they signed contracts stipulating that they agreed to this FCC policy.
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I went ahead and bought the G5 Plus because I read that it "has the same [camera] sensor chip as the S7"
I've read several different users reporting being disappointed with the phone's camera - we'll have to wait for some third party camera/custom ROM with good camera to extract the full potential from this camera sensor?
Does it just have a crappy lens?!?
Will give it some time before I pass judgement on the camera quality - but yes, I do expect to get better pictures from this phone than from an older model iPhone.
On the plus side, I have noticed that the phone does not heat up like all my previous Android phones did when running games like Clash of Clans - I assume this is due to how efficient the 625 CPU is. Everything I've tried running on the phone so far runs fast and the phone stays cool.
I had assumed, since this is an "unlockable" Motorola phone with a presumably fairly "vanilla" version of Android that tethering would not be a problem, however, if it proves to be difficult to get tethering to work I will have to return the phone - that's a basic "must have" feature for me, and really, should be easy and convenient for EVERY smart phone owner. The FCC does not want cell phone companies to limit/control/restrict customer's use of the data based on what they are using the data for - when providers bought new "bands" they signed contracts stipulating that they agreed to this FCC policy.
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I posted on another thread some of the pictures I had taken with the G5 – I don't see how it could be better, unless you go into the custom settings.
I'll take pictures daily, most of the time just to pull my camera out and shoot, and a lot of times zoom as well. This didn't do well in my opinion, and I've owned a S7, which I thought did very well, especially in low light.
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I posted on another thread some of the pictures I had taken with the G5 – I don't see how it could be better...
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Do you mean that they are already excellent, so that you don't seem room for improvement?
If it uses the same sensor as the S7, then why wouldn't it be able to get the same quality of photos once any software shortcomings are addressed by camera software improvements? Maybe we need a custom ROM with a kick-ass camera bundled with it? Perhaps one of the existing 3rd party camera apps from the Play Store will give us good photos?
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Do you mean that they are already excellent, so that you don't seem room for improvement?
If it uses the same sensor as the S7, then why wouldn't it be able to get the same quality of photos once any software shortcomings are addressed by camera software improvements? Maybe we need a custom ROM with a kick-ass camera bundled with it? Perhaps one of the existing 3rd party camera apps from the Play Store will give us good photos?
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Good point, no I meant the pictures weren't great- zooming and low light in particular
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Update- some on the forums suggested I needed to have tried the 4gb version of the Moto G5 Plus. I almost was going to try again- but I found a sweet deal on used Huawei Honor 8- and that thing is scalding fast compared to the Moto G5 Plus I had
Phone is just a phone nothing more. Life beyond a stupid device. G5 Plus is leaps and bounds beyond the tech I grew up with. Generation of instant gratification.
shawnchalfant said:
Phone is just a phone nothing more. Life beyond a stupid device. G5 Plus is leaps and bounds beyond the tech I grew up with. Generation of instant gratification.
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Thanks for your gate keeping wisdom grandpa!
alevity said:
Thanks for your gate keeping wisdom grandpa!
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Anytime!
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alevity said:
Thanks for your gate keeping wisdom grandpa!
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That There Was Funny.
An iPhone SE is definitely better than a Moto G5 Plus in terms of performance, considering it has a flagship chip inside. However, the Moto should do you well in terms of light tasks. Keep it as a backup Android phone if you need to.