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With all the hype I thought I would start a discussion comparing the two phones and discussing is it a worthy enough upgrade.
From what I've tag the camera is pretty amazing, battery life meh, and glad on both sides (don't know how it'll hold up)...
What do you guys think? Would you give up the Moto features, vanilla android and fast updates? (and a design that doesn't look like an iPhone - for the normal 6-)
The capacitive buttons and the home button are enough to turn me off. I've never liked them. It's almost bad enough in my mind that even if the thing could solve global warming I wouldn't buy it because of the buttons.
Assuming the longer term reviews come in supporting the initial impressions, I'm ditching for an S6 as soon as the "on contract" deals start showing up. I've got kids, I'm sick of the MX camera blowing 4 our of every 5 pictures I try to take.
chrisrozon said:
Assuming the longer term reviews come in supporting the initial impressions, I'm ditching for an S6 as soon as the "on contract" deals start showing up. I've got kids, I'm sick of the MX camera blowing 4 our of every 5 pictures I try to take.
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I'm running the 5.1 soak test and the camera is leaps&bounds better than 5.0
It is a unfair comparison, different generations. Both phones look great, both are lightning fast as reports claim and each have their own advantage (hardware agaisn't user experience).
I absolutely hate Samsung phones! They don't even get considered when I'm in the market for a new phone as I prefer the clean vanilla look and feel so normally only look at Nexus type devices. Some of my reason are below:
-Horrible Touchwiz interface
-Poorly developed interface means lots of lag
-Crap build quality
-Very bad depreciation (I guarantee Samsung will release a new more powerful version of the S6 in 6 months after this becomes available)
-Copycats (the S6 looks almost the same as the iPhone 6 from the bottom!!!)
Not sure what people see in Samsung phones!
If I had the money I would switch. The Moto has horrible haptic feedback, and I have to reboot often. Hope the update makes it better.
who leaves haptic feedback on. really? lol.....
Wutang200 said:
I absolutely hate Samsung phones! They don't even get considered when I'm in the market for a new phone as I prefer the clean vanilla look and feel so normally only look at Nexus type devices. Some of my reason are below:
-Horrible Touchwiz interface
-Poorly developed interface means lots of lag
-Crap build quality
-Very bad depreciation (I guarantee Samsung will release a new more powerful version of the S6 in 6 months after this becomes available)
-Copycats (the S6 looks almost the same as the iPhone 6 from the bottom!!!)
Not sure what people see in Samsung phones!
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I don't necessarily hate TouchWiz, but I prefer the Nexus/Moto X experience to it for sure. I run mostly Google apps, so I just feel the residual effects of TouchWiz (dialer, settings, etc.).
I do hate the lag. I also hate the 200 apps that Samsung and AT&T piled into my GS5. A Pure Edition Moto X has made me so much happier. I've been a Nexus guy in the past, but the Nexus 6 was just too big, plus I am starting to love the Moto X features, especially double twist for camera. I heavily disliked the Moto X 2013--the 2nd gen is a major improvement.
I disagree with the depreciation comment to an extent. Sure, if you buy it brand new, it may depreciate a tad, but I bought a GS5 for $250 with an Otterbox in November and sold it last week without the Otterbox for $275. I cleared about $12 after Swappa and PayPal fees (the guy picked it up, no shipping). So I actually made a few bucks to use the phone for a few months.
I completely disagree that the GS6 looks anything like the iPhone 6, especially the GS6 Edge.
The Samsung devices appeal to a lot of people. XDA users are by far the minority of Android users. My mother still loves her GS3 and is super excited about upgrading to a GS6 Edge. My sister loved her GS3 and loves her GS5. I actually bought my girlfriend a GS4 as a present on the day it came out because I thought that more appropriate for her than my Nexus devices I had at the time. We are currently discussing whether or not she would like to upgrade to the GS6 Edge in a couple of months.
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It is a unfair comparison, different generations. Both phones look great, both are lightning fast as reports claim and each have their own advantage (hardware agaisn't user experience).
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I agree with this. It is a little unfair to compare the GS6 with Moto X 2014. It is much more fair to compare the Moto X 2014 to the GS5, as that is considered the same generation. You also have to consider that Moto X 2014 intentionally sacrifices top of the line hardware for other gimmicks, such as Moto maker and lower prices.
RyanTX said:
The capacitive buttons and the home button are enough to turn me off. I've never liked them. It's almost bad enough in my mind that even if the thing could solve global warming I wouldn't buy it because of the buttons.
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I hate the physical button with two capacitive buttons. I jumped to Galaxy Nexus years ago because I was so tired of capacitive buttons, and the physical button is significantly worse. I just came from a GS5, and it drove my crazy. I only had it because my firm made me. As soon as they gave me permission to choose my own phone, I went to Moto X.
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No offense to Rogoshin, but I agree. Haptic feedback is terrible in itself. It isn't the Moto X, it is the haptic feedback in general. Just turn it off.
I had a chance to play with the GS6 at Best Buy the other day:
Pros:
-Improved construction. This doesn't mean much since Samsung was catching up to basically every one else. In-hand feel is not as good as the X. It's still a flat slab, it doesn't contour to your hand.
-Fast switching between apps. The NAND on this thing is insanely quick.
-Better camera (for some). If you look at most of the picture comparison tests done between multiple phones, you really have to scrutinize to see the majority of differences. If your camera phone pictures are crap, you mostly don't know what you're doing. That's not to say that there isn't a difference, but to the average consumer I'd argue they'd be hard pressed to find huge differences.
-Screen calibration is instantly noticeable, and it's BRIGHT for an AMOLED.
-Touch screen response time is fast. I forgot the name of the term.
Cons:
-It's long. Wasted space up top and down at the bottom.
-It still has touchwiz. Even if it's been simplified, the theme is still more or less teenage mutant ninja turtles once you pull down the quick tiles.
-Chrome is choppier/jankier on it than on our X. The Exynos XXXX that they're using still doesn't provide for a fast enough experience on chrome relative to our older SOC and lower 1080p resolution. Hopefully moto sticks with 1080p, the new SOCs aren't up to par yet.
-Speaker is meh. The front-facing one on the X is still better.
-You can't wave at it to wake it up. To me, any phone that you still have to pick up and press the power button to see what's going on feels so 2012.
-Come Android 5.2, everyone's going to ***** and moan about having to wait for it to be updated.
All in all, it's decent, but it's still just another phone. It doesn't add anything new to the experience.
To me it's X > S6 > M9
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I had a chance to play with the GS6 at Best Buy the other day:
Pros:
-Improved construction. This doesn't mean much since Samsung was catching up to basically every one else. In-hand feel is not as good as the X. It's still a flat slab, it doesn't contour to your hand.
-Fast switching between apps. The NAND on this thing is insanely quick.
-Better camera (for some). If you look at most of the picture comparison tests done between multiple phones, you really have to scrutinize to see the majority of differences. If your camera phone pictures are crap, you mostly don't know what you're doing. That's not to say that there isn't a difference, but to the average consumer I'd argue they'd be hard pressed to find huge differences.
-Screen calibration is instantly noticeable, and it's BRIGHT for an AMOLED.
-Touch screen response time is fast. I forgot the name of the term.
Cons:
-It's long. Wasted space up top and down at the bottom.
-It still has touchwiz. Even if it's been simplified, the theme is still more or less teenage mutant ninja turtles once you pull down the quick tiles.
-Chrome is choppier/jankier on it than on our X. The Exynos XXXX that they're using still doesn't provide for a fast enough experience on chrome relative to our older SOC and lower 1080p resolution. Hopefully moto sticks with 1080p, the new SOCs aren't up to par yet.
-Speaker is meh. The front-facing one on the X is still better.
-You can't wave at it to wake it up. To me, any phone that you still have to pick up and press the power button to see what's going on feels so 2012.
-Come Android 5.2, everyone's going to ***** and moan about having to wait for it to be updated.
All in all, it's decent, but it's still just another phone. It doesn't add anything new to the experience.
To me it's X > S6 > M9
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To address the bolded points, I could not take a picture for crap with the GS5. Everyone complains about the Moto X camera, but my pictures are much better. The pictures I took on the GS5 always looked skewed and weird. Depending on the angle I held the phone at, I could add or subtract 40 pounds to myself with the front-facing camera. My girlfriend loves the camera on her GS4, and the GS5 got good reviews on its camera, so I think I am just terrible at taking smartphone pictures. The Moto X's camera is so simple that my pictures end up coming out better on it despite it getting generally negative reviews when compared to other flagships.
As to the 5.2 comment, that is a major drawing point to these pure(r) Android devices for me. The AT&T GS5 has still not been upgraded to 5.0, despite the Nexus devices getting 5.1 and Moto X 2014 being right behind them. I know Verizon pushed the update out for their GS5 a month ago, but that's still way too late for someone used to the Nexus world.
I know I am discussing the GS5 here, not the GS6, but I think these comments are universally applicable.
I enjoy my Moto x a lot. Love the Moto actions, the feel in the hand and the Moto voice.
Today I started having problems with the X. It restarts randomly (maybe bc new update of greenify) and battery just took a dump after one said restart. (gonna check battery calibration)
The camera is another area of concern... I have problems taking macro photos...
But overall the x is a great phone... Don't know if it'll be justified to move to the s6.
It is a great phone though... Need to see it in person
The problem with the Moto X isnt taking normal pictures, its low light and fast moving subjects that completely screw it up. All the initial reports so far are that the gs 6 have solve those problems and offers an iPhone like quality camera
I don't know about your arguments, because I know alot of people that use haptic feedback. And only on one previous phone did I have to shut it off. I to like the the interface of the Moto x, but mine lacks, but not often. I also like the build quality. But if I had the money I would still switch. But it would probably be back to the xperia z3 compact.
I decided to swap my Moto X '14 for a S6. I haven't touched a galaxy phone since the S2 and I swore to never touch one again. But the S6 convinced me to try it one more time. I actually don't mind the new touchwiz (liking the material design look) and with root I'll just uninstall some of the pre-installed applications. The phone itself looks great and is better looking than the X, the hardware seems like a big improvement. It does have some nice features the X hasn't. I really dig the fingerprint sensor. The only thing that's bothering me is the software updates. It will probably take a lot more time than the Moto X. Although that's taking some time as well compared to the Nexus 5 that I had before. I just decided that I don't the mind waiting and having the Moto X a few months, it seems a bit boring or something like that.
Before the Moto X I had a Galaxy S3 and a S4. Even though they're pretty good phones, once I installed the Google Play Edition ROM on the S4 and got used to the vanilla Android feel, I realized how much I hated the crappy Touchwiz, the idea of going back to it sickens me, not to mention that their phones are usually very overpriced (at least here in Brazil). Samsung never again (well, never say never)!
FurryMurry said:
I decided to swap my Moto X '14 for a S6. I haven't touched a galaxy phone since the S2 and I swore to never touch one again. But the S6 convinced me to try it one more time. I actually don't mind the new touchwiz (liking the material design look) and with root I'll just uninstall some of the pre-installed applications. The phone itself looks great and is better looking than the X, the hardware seems like a big improvement. It does have some nice features the X hasn't. I really dig the fingerprint sensor. The only thing that's bothering me is the software updates. It will probably take a lot more time than the Moto X. Although that's taking some time as well compared to the Nexus 5 that I had before. I just decided that I don't the mind waiting and having the Moto X a few months, it seems a bit boring or something like that.
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I agree. Its a very attractive phone. Gonna go to the verizon store to play with it tomorrow, I think they have it on display. We'll see
I love the Moto X 2014, but have the 'phone swapping technology disease...LOL' that mainly have on XDA.
However, one of the things keeping me on the Moto X is how stellar the reception is with the phone. It's a rock star pulling and holding a solid signal in my work place. Very few have come close to it.
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Before the Moto X I had a Galaxy S3 and a S4. Even though they're pretty good phones, once I installed the Google Play Edition ROM on the S4 and got used to the vanilla Android feel, I realized how much I hated the crappy Touchwiz, the idea of going back to it sickens me, not to mention that their phones are usually very overpriced (at least here in Brazil). Samsung never again (well, never say never)!
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First thing I did on the S2/3/4 was to install Nova Launcher. Makes the Galaxy's a tad easier to digest.
No way, it says samsung on it
** This is just my personal thoughts and musing on my experience with my first Android phone. I doubt it's very interesting but I thought I'd share anyway and welcome others to comment and share their experiences. If you're not interested just don't read it, please don't pick holes and post snarky comments. **
Boring introduction
I've had an iPhone since the 3G went on sale and upgraded over the years to the 4 and then the 5. Apple always made beautiful hardware and software with flawless usability but at 3 years old my iPhone 5 was looking like a poor relation compared to the latest flagships and the recently launched, palm filling iPhone 6.
I had gone SIM ONLY after my iPhone 5 contract had finished and I was paying around half the amount for pretty much unlimited everything. I certainly didn't want to start another contract with hefty bills each month but there was no way I was going to shell out over £600 for a new one.
I was also getting frustrated with the limitations of the iPhone devices. Everything works perfectly but why do I need a Stocks app if I don't have any stocks? Why do I need an Apple Watch app, the new U2 album or be restricted to using iTunes for my music? (Other music apps are available but don't integrate as well into the functions of the os)
So about 12 months ago I picked up an Android magazine during a long wait in Gatwick Airport and thought I'd see what the other side was offering. I've been an amateur Linux hacker/enthusiast for a number of years so I knew from experience that the trade off in flexibility from a largely open source platform was potentially a more buggy, ugly and inconsistent user experience.
The magazine featured a review of the ZTE Blade S6. It looked just like a very cheap iPhone 6 knockoff (I now have one at work, it's cheap but it does the job) but my mind started mulling over the specs and I began to put a wishlist together in my head. Good camera, expandable storage (a massive drawback on Apple devices), large screen (so I could do away with my crappy tablet), long battery life and good looking (I didn't want a super glossy, plasticy, Samsung Galaxy or iPhone clone).
My investigations lead me to news of the LG G4 launch and a beta testing programme. The phone looked amazing, it was leather for a start, how crazy. I applied for the trial but didn't get selected. The G4 was going to set me back £500 unlocked so after reading the reviews of the G3 and finding it online for just over £200, I bought my first Android phone.
First thoughts
The package arrived and as I opened it I saw a gold and brown box (the kind of colours you expect to see on the wallpaper in an Indian restaurant). I panicked - I had ordered the white phone, I didn't want gold. Metallic plastic looks nasty (no offence if you have the gold one). Luckily it was white inside.
The pearlescent white was OK, not amazing, in fact kind of cheap looking and the logo strip on the front looked like the design had been lifted off of a 90s microwave but overall it was pleasant to hold, slim and if you didn't look too closely it looked quite sleek and modern.
I charged it up (the accessories were actually more stylish than the phone. They should promote the team who made the charger) and booted it.
WTF!!! The icons! Who thought that square icons in grubby shades of the dullest colours was remotely a good idea? The oversized status and soft key bar icons looked uncomfortable and Smart Bulletin was about as much use as a pocket on a sock.
Customisation
I lived with it for a few weeks. The weather effects were fun, I was getting used to the blinking LED and having a file manager was a whole new freedom that meant I could actually work on my phone. I installed an icon pack but still couldn't make peace with that clunky and aesthetically unpleasing UI. Time to root and sign up to XDA.
The first ROM I tried was Resurrection Remix. It had been recommended to me and it was amazing. Customisation that I dreamed of. But for some reason the phone would randomly shutdown in the middle of the night and could only be turned back on by removing the battery. I couldn't risk it. I use my phone as an alarm so I needed it to be reliable.
I discovered Cloudy and combined with XPosed I was able to get a UI that was a compromise between LG and what I wanted, although apps such as the dialer, calculator and the settings interface still bugged me.
I know they are only small things and shouldn't really bother me but your phone becomes an extension of yourself. In fact I interact more with my phone on a daily basis than I do with a lot of people, so it needs to be an enjoyable experience.
When MM was released I went back to stock and thought I could just live with the ugliness. Cloudy had shut up shop, Fulmics wasn't there just yet and I wanted MM! It was a massive trade off. For full camera functions and stability, I sacrificed my hard work fine tuning my ROM, but I got impatient fast. In fact Marshmallow has been announced months ago and no sooner had 6.0 been given to us like a late Christmas present, 6.0.1 was out for other devices.
CyanogenMod 13.0
Then I discovered the tread about CM13. I knew about CM already and knew it was the base for many of the custom ROMs I'd tried in the past but I thought installing this would give me an almost pure Android experience with regular updates and I can live without slo-mo video or the other LG features.
Initially there were bugs that meant my first attempt was short-lived and I ended up going back to stock within a few hours. I have a Xiaomi Mi Band and CM couldn't recognise BLE (Bluetooth Low Energy) devices.
Soon the bug was fixed and CM13 was reinstalled. In general my CM experience has been pretty good although it's evident the software wasn't intended for your device. It's not a perfect fit with fewer features in the camera and some niggly bugs (it's only in beta).
The ROOT of all evil
Tiring of my epic quest for the perfect ROM and settling with CM13 was a short lived moment of harmony. I had come to terms with my banking app not working and even the camera but then the rumour leaks - UK to get Android Pay by the end of March.
It's nearly the end of March and no sign yet but it got me thinking about the future of mobile technology and more importantly what I want from a device (it's rarely used as a phone).
It's obvious they are worming their way into more and more areas of our lives and will continue to do so. Android Pay doesn't currently work with CM or rooted devices and it's a cat and mouse game to cloak, hide and workaround these barriers. What I need is a device that fits my wish list and I can run without root.
Hello Moto
So last night I decided to take the plunge and treat myself to a new device. A purer Android experience with a snazzy look, regular updates and a low price tag. My Moto X Style should arrive tomorrow and I'm hoping our relationship will not be as turbulent as it was with the G3.
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"The course of true love never did run smooth". Android isn't an OS for everyone and im glad you took the plunge into the android world after so many years with an iPhone. Hope you enjoy your Moto X and also hope your time with that phone would last for a long time.
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Shifters123 said:
"The course of true love never did run smooth". Android isn't an OS for everyone and im glad you took the plunge into the android world after so many years with an iPhone. Hope you enjoy your Moto X and also hope your time with that phone would last for a long time.
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Thanks. I do love Android. I love the freedom.
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Thanks for your honest opinions , give lightning launcher a try with minimal work it can give you a totally different looking type of interface
markthomson1404 said:
Thanks for your honest opinions , give lightning launcher a try with minimal work it can give you a totally different looking type of interface
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Thanks. I'm on Google Launcher at the moment. I really like Microsoft Arrow launcher in a way but it needs more customisation options.
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Hi, although I don't hate my phone, I'm totally agree with you.
The shutdown issue... terrible thing of CM12.1 (and of stock firmware too, but less frequently).
Then you criticized the limitations of LG system, like any other. Sadly many trademarks choose to promote banal and heavy customatizations which make phone like a "closed box"... like iPhone & Family!
Personally, when I want to buy or suggest a phone, I look only for hardware specifications.
The stock firmware will be replaced asap.
I really would appreciate a Nexus with both external SD and removable battery support: the stock Android experience and an easier modding experience, without too many bootloader complications.
It's the same with me, but I'm stuck with a contract.. Have fun with your Moto!
Simone98RC said:
Hi, although I don't hate my phone, I'm totally agree with you.
The shutdown issue... terrible thing of CM12.1 (and of stock firmware too, but less frequently).
Then you criticized the limitations of LG system, like any other. Sadly many trademarks choose to promote banal and heavy customatizations which make phone like a "closed box"... like iPhone & Family!
Personally, when I want to buy or suggest a phone, I look only for hardware specifications.
The stock firmware will be replaced asap.
I really would appreciate a Nexus with both external SD and removable battery support: the stock Android experience and an easier modding experience, without too many bootloader complications.
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I was in the hardware is important camp and just wipe the software but with Android Pay launching and requiring you to be unrooted, I need the software to be as perfect as possible stock.
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RapHaeL_4_4_4_ said:
It's the same with me, but I'm stuck with a contract.. Have fun with your Moto!
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Thanks. Amazon should hopefully deliver it in a few hours so I'll report back later
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that's sad. did you try the official marshmallow stock rom?? for me its the most perfect and smoothest rom ever used in my G3. btw moto is awesome too. good luck!
superawesomeme said:
** This is just my personal thoughts and musing on my experience with my first Android phone. I doubt it's very interesting but I thought I'd share anyway and welcome others to comment and share their experiences. If you're not interested just don't read it, please don't pick holes and post snarky comments. **
Boring introduction
I've had an iPhone since the 3G went on sale and upgraded over the years to the 4 and then the 5. Apple always made beautiful hardware and software with flawless usability but at 3 years old my iPhone 5 was looking like a poor relation compared to the latest flagships and the recently launched, palm filling iPhone 6.
I had gone SIM ONLY after my iPhone 5 contract had finished and I was paying around half the amount for pretty much unlimited everything. I certainly didn't want to start another contract with hefty bills each month but there was no way I was going to shell out over £600 for a new one.
I was also getting frustrated with the limitations of the iPhone devices. Everything works perfectly but why do I need a Stocks app if I don't have any stocks? Why do I need an Apple Watch app, the new U2 album or be restricted to using iTunes for my music? (Other music apps are available but don't integrate as well into the functions of the os)
So about 12 months ago I picked up an Android magazine during a long wait in Gatwick Airport and thought I'd see what the other side was offering. I've been an amateur Linux hacker/enthusiast for a number of years so I knew from experience that the trade off in flexibility from a largely open source platform was potentially a more buggy, ugly and inconsistent user experience.
The magazine featured a review of the ZTE Blade S6. It looked just like a very cheap iPhone 6 knockoff (I now have one at work, it's cheap but it does the job) but my mind started mulling over the specs and I began to put a wishlist together in my head. Good camera, expandable storage (a massive drawback on Apple devices), large screen (so I could do away with my crappy tablet), long battery life and good looking (I didn't want a super glossy, plasticy, Samsung Galaxy or iPhone clone).
My investigations lead me to news of the LG G4 launch and a beta testing programme. The phone looked amazing, it was leather for a start, how crazy. I applied for the trial but didn't get selected. The G4 was going to set me back £500 unlocked so after reading the reviews of the G3 and finding it online for just over £200, I bought my first Android phone.
First thoughts
The package arrived and as I opened it I saw a gold and brown box (the kind of colours you expect to see on the wallpaper in an Indian restaurant). I panicked - I had ordered the white phone, I didn't want gold. Metallic plastic looks nasty (no offence if you have the gold one). Luckily it was white inside.
The pearlescent white was OK, not amazing, in fact kind of cheap looking and the logo strip on the front looked like the design had been lifted off of a 90s microwave but overall it was pleasant to hold, slim and if you didn't look too closely it looked quite sleek and modern.
I charged it up (the accessories were actually more stylish than the phone. They should promote the team who made the charger) and booted it.
WTF!!! The icons! Who thought that square icons in grubby shades of the dullest colours was remotely a good idea? The oversized status and soft key bar icons looked uncomfortable and Smart Bulletin was about as much use as a pocket on a sock.
Customisation
I lived with it for a few weeks. The weather effects were fun, I was getting used to the blinking LED and having a file manager was a whole new freedom that meant I could actually work on my phone. I installed an icon pack but still couldn't make peace with that clunky and aesthetically unpleasing UI. Time to root and sign up to XDA.
The first ROM I tried was Resurrection Remix. It had been recommended to me and it was amazing. Customisation that I dreamed of. But for some reason the phone would randomly shutdown in the middle of the night and could only be turned back on by removing the battery. I couldn't risk it. I use my phone as an alarm so I needed it to be reliable.
I discovered Cloudy and combined with XPosed I was able to get a UI that was a compromise between LG and what I wanted, although apps such as the dialer, calculator and the settings interface still bugged me.
I know they are only small things and shouldn't really bother me but your phone becomes an extension of yourself. In fact I interact more with my phone on a daily basis than I do with a lot of people, so it needs to be an enjoyable experience.
When MM was released I went back to stock and thought I could just live with the ugliness. Cloudy had shut up shop, Fulmics wasn't there just yet and I wanted MM! It was a massive trade off. For full camera functions and stability, I sacrificed my hard work fine tuning my ROM, but I got impatient fast. In fact Marshmallow has been announced months ago and no sooner had 6.0 been given to us like a late Christmas present, 6.0.1 was out for other devices.
CyanogenMod 13.0
Then I discovered the tread about CM13. I knew about CM already and knew it was the base for many of the custom ROMs I'd tried in the past but I thought installing this would give me an almost pure Android experience with regular updates and I can live without slo-mo video or the other LG features.
Initially there were bugs that meant my first attempt was short-lived and I ended up going back to stock within a few hours. I have a Xiaomi Mi Band and CM couldn't recognise BLE (Bluetooth Low Energy) devices.
Soon the bug was fixed and CM13 was reinstalled. In general my CM experience has been pretty good although it's evident the software wasn't intended for your device. It's not a perfect fit with fewer features in the camera and some niggly bugs (it's only in beta).
The ROOT of all evil
Tiring of my epic quest for the perfect ROM and settling with CM13 was a short lived moment of harmony. I had come to terms with my banking app not working and even the camera but then the rumour leaks - UK to get Android Pay by the end of March.
It's nearly the end of March and no sign yet but it got me thinking about the future of mobile technology and more importantly what I want from a device (it's rarely used as a phone).
It's obvious they are worming their way into more and more areas of our lives and will continue to do so. Android Pay doesn't currently work with CM or rooted devices and it's a cat and mouse game to cloak, hide and workaround these barriers. What I need is a device that fits my wish list and I can run without root.
Hello Moto
So last night I decided to take the plunge and treat myself to a new device. A purer Android experience with a snazzy look, regular updates and a low price tag. My Moto X Style should arrive tomorrow and I'm hoping our relationship will not be as turbulent as it was with the G3.
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that totally sucks! I want iPhone users to see what's so great with Androids. I would actually recommend the G3 to any iPhone user trying to switch to Android. It blows you didn't have a good experience as I love the phone so much I won't upgrade because this phone is a beast. With fulmics 4.2 MM, xposed and G3 tweaksbox your phone would have been a better experience. I myself want to try an iPhone but I just can't let this phone go lol. Well I hope this bad experience didn't want to make you go back as the new G5 might change your mind :fingers-crossed:
GTRanushka said:
that's sad. did you try the official marshmallow stock rom?? for me its the most perfect and smoothest rom ever used in my G3. btw moto is awesome too. good luck!
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I tried official Marshmallow for a few weeks, the battery life was incredible and it was so smooth. I think that's what I find so frustrating, LG make some amazing tech, the specs are top notch and they don't age/slowdown as fast as others but there are so many proprietary modifications to the OS that it's put me off LG.
It's obviously just a personal preference but I just find their design aesthetic unpleasing, like a hybrid of Kit Kat (the dull colours and oversized status/nav icons) and Lollipop (material design, but poorly executed in this case).
The heavy skinning was the reason I avoided Samsung too. Again incredible hardware. These companies seem to take the same half-assed approach to UI design as Microsoft. A jumble of different styles, moving forwards with good ideas but poorly executed with remnants of the past hanging about.
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It's the same with me, but I'm stuck with a contract.. Have fun with your Moto!
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Omg it's amazing. I few things I miss from the LG...
- Power button position (I'll get used to it)
- Double tap to wake
- Wireless charging
Other than that it's practically perfect (so far)...
- The display is incredible. I'm on about 15-20% brightness and it's so vivid and clear. I had to have the LG between 50-60%.
- Snapchat video filters work, inc slow-mo, fast, reverse (these didn't work on LG)
- Moto display for alerts, you just wave your hand over the front for a power friendly notification screen.
- Pure Android experience so no ugly status bar.
- Super fast burst mode on camera (plus improved low light mode)
- Front flash
- Beautiful shape and rear texture
- Gestures such as double twist for camera mode, karate chop for flashlight, etc
This is the droid I was looking for!
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Hi,
My question is how different is MiFavor from stock android experience. Is it mainly stock with few extras or is it completely re-skinned like Samsung skin or MIUI? How frustrating would MiFavour be for ex-Nexus users?
I've read about lockscreen nonsense and the additional settings tab. I've also heard that dialer and camera apps are different. Are they very different? And what about notifications and and notification bar & icons?
I'm asking this because I'm looking for the new phone. Just 3 main requirements: good audio, sd card, unskinned Nexus-like android. The closest to these are HTC10 and Axon7. Both are just over £400 now, so I'm choosing between the two.
Thanks in advance for your help!
Buy OnePlus 3 if you can
HTC10 or Oneplus 3 are better overall packages, unfortunately. Unless you REALLY want loud speakers, I'd recommend one of them over the Axon 7. Oneplus 3 if you want custom roms and a bigger screen, HTC 10 if you're fine staying stock and want a smaller phone.
Oneplus3 is a great phone, except there is no expandable storage and no independent DAC.
HTC10 seems like a much better overall package with excellent camera, however sound-wise it is not as good as Axon and also Sense seems to be further away from stock then MiFavor. Or at least that was the impression I've got from reviews.
Everybody losing their minds over this phone wanting it to be like every other phone out there. It's a great phone and yes it does have some quirks just like every other phone out there.
$400 for flagship specs and a well build phone is an amazing deal. Compare the specs and watch some review on YouTube and formulate your own discision based on what you want and need and not what some one expected or assumed and are now pissed off.
Not to mention they have a great return policy if you see after a couple weeks it's not for you.
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formulate your own discision based on what you want and need and not what some one expected or assumed and are now pissed off.
Not to mention they have a great return policy if you see after a couple weeks it's not for you.
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Totally agree!
I was still hopping to hear from people who used to have Nexus phones before moving to Axon. How is the overall experience in terms of software? Most of the reviews tell about the lock screen bell, which sounds annoying, but I can live with that. Is that the only major difference?
Thanks!
The solution for the bell is to use tasker and autoinput to basically auto-touch that spot on the screen everytime the screen turns on. It's stupid that is necessary but it works like 95% of the time.
Being on my 8th Android smartphone, I've used everything from CM7 to CM13, AOSP, Touchwiz, Sense, Whatever LG has...this feels pretty stock to me honestly. I think MOST of the things that you can see and interact with like gesture stuff, ZTE apps, and all that can be avoided and it doesn't feel to intrusive (besides the bell). When I went back to my Moto x Pure for a week or so, that phone definitely feels more natural to me to use, but this is close.
Also just a couple screen-on things to keep in mind: The moto style wave to wake thing basically doesn't work with ACdisplay or Ambient Notifications, at least not reliably enough to use normally. And the double tap to wake totally sucks. I still use it but it is way worse than say the LG G4. Just things to keep in mind.
The notification shade seems like a hybrid of the Moto and some more older standard power buttons. They are not interactive, meaning you can't unhide a menu of a few Bluetooth devices from the notification button. You have to long press to get into the menu or set up a shortcut. Not a huge thing but the functionality was better with more interaction.
The camera app is ok. It has a multi filter button where you can see the preview shot with like 9 different potential filters, press the one you want most, and then shoot it. It's kinda cool but probably not unique. The cameras I have use on all of my phones have been so drastically different that this didn't throw me off.
Hope this helped a bit.
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The solution for the bell is to use tasker and autoinput to basically auto-touch that spot on the screen everytime the screen turns on. It's stupid that is necessary but it works like 95% of the time.
Being on my 8th Android smartphone, I've used everything from CM7 to CM13, AOSP, Touchwiz, Sense, Whatever LG has...this feels pretty stock to me honestly. I think MOST of the things that you can see and interact with like gesture stuff, ZTE apps, and all that can be avoided and it doesn't feel to intrusive (besides the bell). When I went back to my Moto x Pure for a week or so, that phone definitely feels more natural to me to use, but this is close.
Also just a couple screen-on things to keep in mind: The moto style wave to wake thing basically doesn't work with ACdisplay or Ambient Notifications, at least not reliably enough to use normally. And the double tap to wake totally sucks. I still use it but it is way worse than say the LG G4. Just things to keep in mind.
The notification shade seems like a hybrid of the Moto and some more older standard power buttons. They are not interactive, meaning you can't unhide a menu of a few Bluetooth devices from the notification button. You have to long press to get into the menu or set up a shortcut. Not a huge thing but the functionality was better with more interaction.
The camera app is ok. It has a multi filter button where you can see the preview shot with like 9 different potential filters, press the one you want most, and then shoot it. It's kinda cool but probably not unique. The cameras I have use on all of my phones have been so drastically different that this didn't throw me off.
Hope this helped a bit.
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It's my 44th phone. I think I have a problem lol
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It's my 44th phone. I think I have a problem lol
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What in the world haha. I don't even think 44 phones would appeal to me! Jesus. Well, among people I know, I think 8 is a good number. I used to be stuck on 2-year plans and finally got off those. In the last 18 months I've had 4. I doubt I'll catch up to 44 though.
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What in the world haha. I don't even think 44 phones would appeal to me! Jesus. Well, among people I know, I think 8 is a good number. I used to be stuck on 2-year plans and finally got off those. In the last 18 months I've had 4. I doubt I'll catch up to 44 though.
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I've been on prepaid since the early days of android. I flipped phones while I was in college as a way to help pay tuition, so that accounted for a lot of the devices I've owned. For the past few years I've been on the "buy used, sell ~3 months later for exactly what you paid" train. Swappa makes this really easy. This is the secret behind always having new devices and never paying anything (or very little) out of pocket to having them.
You used to be able to buy phones on Craigslist and sell them on eBay or Swappa for way more, since people didn't realize that even though they only spent $100 at the Verizon store on their Note 3, it was actually worth $400. But since the carriers started itemizing the bills, people have wised up to this and that trick really doesn't work anymore.
xgerryx: Thanks a lot. It is very helpful.
No offense but I am still waiting for the pixel to become available to purchase mine, but according to this the pixel is slower than the one plus 3!? I already own a one plus 3 now I am bit skeptical if I should spend 600$ on a phone that is slower..
I wouldn't if you already have a Oneplus 3. Especially since a Oneplus 4 shouldn't be too far off, and it will for sure curb stomp the pixel.
That being said, I'm getting the Pixel just for the better camera and daydream. And currently I'm just using a cheap Huawei, because my note7 was recalled
you can get Google Pixel and Google assistant free. if you only want the software experience
work's with any Marshmallow device. with root and custom ROM.
video below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnjMRrRE0jY
OnePlus 3S or 3T coming out very soon with SnapDragon 821 might aswell wait
Pixel is pushing to a QHD screen.... oneplus is just 1080p;
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Pixel is pushing to a QHD screen.... oneplus is just 1080p;
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ZTE axon 7 got QHD screen and is twice as cheap.
It may open up some games faster but its not a " faster" experience. You have to remember that these kinds of comparisons are never black and white. If this changes your mind then you're an idiot.
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It may open up some games faster but its not a " faster" experience. You have to remember that these kinds of comparisons are never black and white. If this changes your mind then you're an idiot.
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Why is not a faster experience one plus runs nearly stuck android. One plus is the closes to stock that you will get aside from Google. And it almost outperformed the pixel in every test. I dont want to agree as I will. E leaving the op3 for the pixel due to the quick updates for the pixel phone but is pathetic that Google makes a phone that performs just like a 400$ phone and price it twice as high..
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Why is not a faster experience one plus runs nearly stuck android. One plus is the closes to stock that you will get aside from Google. And it almost outperformed the pixel in every test. I dont want to agree as I will. E leaving the op3 for the pixel due to the quick updates for the pixel phone but is pathetic that Google makes a phone that performs just like a 400$ phone and price it twice as high..
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They are running two different versions of Android, and they have both optimized their software differently. The Pixel very well could have theirs optimized for battery life rather than app performance such as the OP3.. There are too many variables.
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They are running two different versions of Android, and they have both optimized their software differently. The Pixel very well could have theirs optimized for battery life rather than app performance such as the OP3.. There are too many variables.
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There is no rationalizing with folks who are caught up on the price of the Pixel......
I paid $37,000 for a Jeep Wrangler.. Thing has less options and modern amenities than a $20,000 Hyundai.... But it's a Jeep. It is what it is folks... More senseless grumbling, I guess it will subside eventually..
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All I know is I've never had an android phone that was buttery smooth all the time like iOS runs on iPhone. The latest android phones i've used before the Pixel were the Nexus 6, 6P, 5X, Note 7, & S7 Edge and those phones always had hickups here and there in different apps so I've mainly been back on iPhone for the last 1-2 years. The Note 7 you could tell was snappy, but jump in the browser and start scrolling and it would 'hesitate' or 'lag' but it was never butter like the iOS browser. The Pixel is as close to iOS smooth that I have seen on an android phone and it is a very welcome feeling.
Like I've been saying: It's not about cold hard specifications. It's about how the WHOLE package comes together as a unit. The Pixel is a great example where the phone is greater than the sum of its parts. Google optimized the **** out of this device -- which is probably one of the reasons why it's so smooth. You could also argue that this optimization also greatly enhanced battery life. These two things together could take away from super-fast game loading which is why it's being beaten at this task by some older/lesser devices.
It's how you look at the TOTAL picture folks... like I said, it's not white and black.
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All I know is I've never had an android phone that was buttery smooth all the time like iOS runs on iPhone. The latest android phones i've used before the Pixel were the Nexus 6, 6P, 5X, Note 7, & S7 Edge and those phones always had hickups here and there in different apps so I've mainly been back on iPhone for the last 1-2 years. The Note 7 you could tell was snappy, but jump in the browser and start scrolling and it would 'hesitate' or 'lag' but it was never butter like the iOS browser. The Pixel is as close to iOS smooth that I have seen on an android phone and it is a very welcome feeling.
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What would you chose a Lexus or a Mercedes-Benz?..
Believe me, the OnePlus 3 is not as great as many reports suggest - I can't wait to get rid of mine. It replaced a reliable Nexus 6P four months back and that was one of the worst phone decisions I've ever made. Why? Yes the OnePlus 3 is a very, very good phone in many ways. It's an piece of very solid hardware with a great camera and all the top specs you could want.
However, one of its key features that got my attention was the promise of a stock android experience. My mistake was I assumed that meant everything would be similar to my experience of Nexus phones (I'd had the 6P, the 6, the 5 and the 4 so far).Sure, I guessed updates would be less frequent, but overall I expected the same quality of software as a Nexus. How wrong I was. From the start, there were just so many bugs: for the first two months the on screen nav bar didn't work properly so I had to use the hardware buttons. There were problems with the mobile network connection; often settings i changed kept reverting to default after a reboot; notifications failed, ringtones were too loud; screen auto brightness levels were crazy; there were problems with SIM settings; and the battery drained very randomly. Wth every successive update that OP pushed out, only some of these bugs were fixed but even more new bugs were let loose. I think they've had to release urgent hot fixes for at least 3 monthly updates so far to address major issues. So now I can see why they are selling their phone so cheap: OP are woefully behind the bigger phone manufacturers when it comes to software development resources. For many that's worth it to save so much money, but not me
Worst still, if my own experience of OP's Community Builds programme to showcase and test new features is anything to go by, their stock android promise is about to be broken. They plan to introduce elements of their android software designed for the Chinese market. Think MIUI and you'll begin to get the picture. That's too much for any Nexus fan so guess what? My Pixel XL is ordered and arriving Wednesday and my OP3 is getting sold to my local second hand phone store right after that.
I can't wait to get back to a stable, reliable Google device again, even if the Pixel's pricing is ridiculous.
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Believe me, the OnePlus 3 is not as great as many reports suggest - I can't wait to get rid of mine. It replaced a reliable Nexus 6P four months back and that was one of the worst phone decisions I've ever made. Why? Yes the OnePlus 3 is a very, very good phone in many ways. It's an piece of very solid hardware with a great camera and all the top specs you could want.
However, one of its key features that got my attention was the promise of a stock android experience. My mistake was I assumed that meant everything would be similar to my experience of Nexus phones (I'd had the 6P, the 6, the 5 and the 4 so far).Sure, I guessed updates would be less frequent, but overall I expected the same quality of software as a Nexus. How wrong I was. From the start, there were just so many bugs: for the first two months the on screen nav bar didn't work properly so I had to use the hardware buttons. There were problems with the mobile network connection; often settings i changed kept reverting to default after a reboot; notifications failed, ringtones were too loud; screen auto brightness levels were crazy; there were problems with SIM settings; and the battery drained very randomly. Wth every successive update that OP pushed out, only some of these bugs were fixed but even more new bugs were let loose. I think they've had to release urgent hot fixes for at least 3 monthly updates so far to address major issues. So now I can see why they are selling their phone so cheap: OP are woefully behind the bigger phone manufacturers when it comes to software development resources. For many that's worth it to save so much money, but not me
Worst still, if my own experience of OP's Community Builds programme to showcase and test new features is anything to go by, their stock android promise is about to be broken. They plan to introduce elements of their android software designed for the Chinese market. Think MIUI and you'll begin to get the picture. That's too much for any Nexus fan so guess what? My Pixel XL is ordered and arriving Wednesday and my OP3 is getting sold to my local second hand phone right after that.
I can't wait to get back to a stable, reliable Google device again, even if the Pixel's pricing is ridiculous.
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Valid point, I do agree that they are not very good in the software department.. I am myself getting a pixel I just don't think the pixel is priced right
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Valid point, I do agree that they are not very good in the software department.. I am myself getting a pixel I just don't think the pixel is priced right
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Its the same exact price as the iPhone designed to directly compete with the iPhone. Nexus phones were never meant to be a huge money maker for Google -- the Pixel is, and as such is priced and marketed as such.
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Its the same exact price as the iPhone designed to directly compete with the iPhone. Nexus phones were never meant to be a huge money maker for Google -- the Pixel is, and as such is priced and marketed as such.
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I think the pixel should of been a nexus 6p with a 5.5 inch display and updated specs keep everything else the same including the front facing speakers. Now that I would thrown my money at Google for.
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I think the pixel should of been a nexus 6p with a 5.5 inch display and updated specs keep everything else the same including the front facing speakers. Now that I would thrown my money at Google for.
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The Nexus 6P had a premium feel to it, but was made poorly. Watch what happens on YouTube when you try to bend one. I like the Pixel design much better... no visor/camera hump, much more study, two-tone unique back design, etc.
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The Nexus 6P had a premium feel to it, but was made poorly. Watch what happens on YouTube when you try to bend one. I like the Pixel design much better... no visor/camera hump, much more study, two-tone unique back design, etc.
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So your one of those idiot who actually attempts to bend a phone. Or wait let me guess your one of those who performs 50 ft drop test?!. ????????
Who the heck runs around attempting to bend a phone those reviews are stupid and my opinion. So stupid that prior to iPhone bend gate it dint even exist.
And the two tone is ugly af once mine arrives I will be putting a skin over the phone.
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So your one of those idiot who actually attempts to bend a phone. Or wait let me guess your one of those who performs 50 ft drop test?!. ????????
Who the heck runs around attempting to bend a phone those reviews are stupid and my opinion. So stupid that prior to iPhone bend gate it dint even exist.
And the two tone is ugly af once mine arrives I will be putting a skin over the phone.
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Watch how easy it bends ... He says "my 6 year old daughter could easily bend this phone in half".
You're the idiot for buying a phone that you think is ugly AF lpl
I am currently using a sprint LG G4 which unfortunately I can't root because of the revision that came preloaded on the warranty replacement of my original that had some sort of bootloop defect that I guess never got a recall. But that's a story best left for another time. Suffice to say that since getting the replacement I have not been completely happy with the G4 any more and get increasingly frustrated with it. Should I replace it with a V20 (price $552 [24 monthly payments of $23)? I mainly play games like simpsons tapped out, avenger's academy, and a few similar games. The rest is your typical productivity use and web browsing. Thanks for any feedback.
so no interest for music whatsover?
in that case, I would say no, you should choose a different phone, depending on your budget, say a samsung s8 if your budget doesn't have a roof, or a g6 if you like Lg... or anything of the kind.
the v20 is a mean beast, I love it, but if you don't care for its hifi dac capabilities, why bother?? you get a sd820 SoC, which is the same you had on the Lg G5... If gaming and browsing is all you do, pick something else.
s8 if you want a sleek device with top tier features, or g6 which you could probably have for the same 550 usd you're willing to spend on the v20. g6's screen is technically improved (ratio is different, so that's something you need to consider), soc is slightly better and more efficient, looks better, better grip, no camera bump.
otherwise if the lack of b20 isn't an issue... mi6 its performance/price ratio is awesome!
bottom line: I'm into music, a lot, and I enjoy the big screen for netflix 1080p, so that's why I love my v20, it was the only possible choice I had. if you don't care about music, I think you'd be better off with some other device
You shouldn't get LG V20 because i don't think LG care about LG V20s software update anymore. So please don't get it. All the other phones are getting Android 7.1.2 we are still stuck in 7.0 .
@StoneRyno
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1335245-REG/lg_black_g6_32gb_smartphone.html
lg 6(carrier unlocked gsm cdma) plus watch 600
https://swappa.com/buy/lg-v20
used v20 starting from 250
I paid 400 for my v20 bran new back on december I wouldn't pay 552 now
like my v20.
removable battery
fast. no lag.
good battery.
great camera
second screen rocks
I chose this over G6
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You shouldn't get LG V20 because i don't think LG care about LG V20s software update anymore. So please don't get it. All the other phones are getting Android 7.1.2 we are still stuck in 7.0 .
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ehm... just so you know, LG never cared about x.x1 and x.1 updates, so no, 99% we won't see 7.1.2 coming to our phones. but they usually grant 2 major updates, so android O and P should be the ones to keep an eye out for.
The V20 is a great phone and I do not regret picking this phone once the N7 debacle happened. That being said, if music is not a big focus for you, then the world is your oyster. My apprehension for you getting the v20 now is the cost ($23 for 24mos) and the standstill of development. There is not a lot of development for any LG device, but being this is becoming an "older" device, we will start seeing Devs dropping off to work on new projects for new devices. If you want LG, the G6 is a great phone and is $10 less a month on Sprint. Otherwise, the S8 is a hell of a phone for about the same price as the G6.
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so no interest for music whatsover?
in that case, I would say no, you should choose a different phone, depending on your budget, say a samsung s8 if your budget doesn't have a roof, or a g6 if you like Lg... or anything of the kind.
the v20 is a mean beast, I love it, but if you don't care for its hifi dac capabilities, why bother?? you get a sd820 SoC, which is the same you had on the Lg G5... If gaming and browsing is all you do, pick something else.
s8 if you want a sleek device with top tier features, or g6 which you could probably have for the same 550 usd you're willing to spend on the v20. g6's screen is technically improved (ratio is different, so that's something you need to consider), soc is slightly better and more efficient, looks better, better grip, no camera bump.
otherwise if the lack of b20 isn't an issue... mi6 its performance/price ratio is awesome!
bottom line: I'm into music, a lot, and I enjoy the big screen for netflix 1080p, so that's why I love my v20, it was the only possible choice I had. if you don't care about music, I think you'd be better off with some other device
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Yes you should. Lots of folks have gripes (maybe legitimate) but overall the V20 is the fastest and best phone i've ever owned. It's still right up there will phones just coming out. And for audio there's nothing like it. Put Viper on it and you're experiencing music the way it was meant to be.
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like my v20.
removable battery
fast. no lag.
good battery.
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I chose this over G6
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add ons:
Metal Design (with removable back cover) (military grade protection)
Expandable Storage
Camera (wide angle fun option)
Knock wake / sleep
Removable app drawer
Launcher themes
Fingerprint Scanner (wakes device without pressing)
Android N out of box.
I agree with this list.. I did a ton of research to find a phone that had all the features I wanted... and this one fit almost every bill. I do wish Battery life was a little better.. but QuickCharge is amazing and i could always buy an extra battery to swap in at any time.
Coming from a g4? Absolutely the phone is a beast compared to the g4. The 808 processor is a piece of crap in terms of both performance and thermal.
I would pick the LG v20 if these features are the most important:
- removable battery
- secondary screen
- high quality audio
- want a highly customizable camera experience (lots of options to get that perfect photo)
Yes the processor isn't the fastest of the ones currently available but unless you have both processors in action in front of you you won't notice the difference between them in day to day operations.
The LG v20 is probably going to be the last of the removable battery phones if the preview of the v30 is any indication.
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Yeah, $400 to $425 with some looking should get you a new V20.
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@StoneRyno
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1335245-REG/lg_black_g6_32gb_smartphone.html
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I should add that root is a must given my experience with the G4. The longer development support of roms for whatever device I get the better. Ideally I would only upgrade to a new device about every 5 years. If they could be upgraded internally like PCs can I could get 7-8 years out of them before needing a complete replacement. Also I can't stand laggy software. Currently my experience with the G4 is that several games I play I have to open the recently used apps thing and click clear all so that it doesn't feel like I'm running them on below minimum system requirements. Sometimes it is so bad it's like I'm running the CPU at 200MHz instead of the 1.8GHz.
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so no interest for music whatsover?
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I've almost never used my smartphones for music. And when I do I have high quality headphones I use.
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depending on your budget, say a samsung s8 if your budget doesn't have a roof, or a g6 if you like Lg... or anything of the kind.
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Budget is flexible. Especially if I can root and there is a lasting development base for updated roms supporting whatever device I get. If this were the case for me with the G4 I'd not even be considering replacement this soon after purchase. But I've not been able to root the G4 because it came preloaded with a not rootable version.
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I paid 400 for my v20 bran new back on december I wouldn't pay 552 now
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Oh wow the way sprint is advertising this it's like it was just released. Given this info I for sure am going to look at my options including shopping for a lower price if I decide to get the v20.
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If you want LG, the G6 is a great phone and is $10 less a month on Sprint. Otherwise, the S8 is a hell of a phone for about the same price as the G6.
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To date I have had samsung devices. The G4 was my first LG device. The reasoning behind getting it rather than another samsung was it looked like samsung was pulling an apple and doing minor hardware bumps and charging a fortune for them compared to the going price of the previous model. My main objection to getting a G6 is that I'm trading off certain things: removable battery, camera quality, sensors, for only CPU GPU and RAM bumps. All in all if I'm going to upgrade I need the new device to improve upon most everything related to how I use it. I don't take a lot of pictures but enough that a dependable well featured camera be in the device.