Ive been so sick of how poorly LG handles software heat management that I decided to create a portable yet practical fan heatsink case for my G3. At the time I didn't want to load any custom ROMs and then mess with the Kernal in order to solve the overheating throating issues we all face with the Stock G3 at some point.
Supplies = Aluminium Foil, Double sided tape, 40mm fan
Heres how I did it with spending less than $10:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Take a look at the red areas in the picture above, These are the areas (that I believe) are where most of the G3s heat is accumulated.
-I took at least 5 sheets of paper size aluminium foil and I folded and compressed them into a poor man's heatsink about the size of those red areas in the picture.
- After that I was able to snap on the normal backcover with the help of some double sided tape
- Then I put some thermal compound (optional) onto the back cover near the red areas
- Applied 2-3 layers of aluminium foil on top of the thermal compound (or double sided tape)
-Stuck the 40mm on the back cover.
Done, the fan never gets in the way and allows my temps to remain a tad lower.
Let me know if anyone found this interesting so ill post some pics.
Have you tried the CTT MOD (Custom Thermal Throttling)? You have to have ROOT+TWRP installed but it does wonders.
You should definitely try it if throttling really bothers you.
Not sure how effective it is but definitely impressive.
post some pics, thermal compound from pc its ok to the smarphones?
i'd really like to see some pics. this sounds like a great DIY idea for me.
A for effort but this makes no sense . i put in a copper shim and the back never gets hot anymore . all the heat goes to the frame .
Definitely seems rather, coutner intuitive if you ask me.... I can understand putting some sort of 'heat sink' there if it was thin enough, but adding a fan??? That... just completely takes away any and all point to have the phoen be 'slim'. it wont work in 'cases' anymore without cutting a giant hole in the case. It wont fit in some (key word there) docks/car docks. It'll make the phone have a constant 'fan noise' unless you did some magical software tweak that only makes the fan turn on once it hits a certain internal temp... But I doubt that was done. Yea, sure, keeping the phone cool should be a good thing, but this just sounds like one hell of a horrible way to go about it. I do think its awesome that you managed to do it, and it is definitely an interesting way to go about it, but from a practical standpoint, its just obtrusive and inefficient.. As a previous commentor stated, just slip a piece of thin copper or something there and presto, problem solved.
And yea, I'm definitely with you there about the whole 'LG needs to stop being lazy with thermal issues' stuff. I've used many roms in the past with my G3, and I ONLY have a 'heat problem' whenever using roms that are 'close to stock'... which is very annoying... But, most of the time when I'm experiencing such thermal issues, is when I'm in the car and using Torque and Google Maps at the same time. But this is negated thanks to my car's A/C. I just spin the air duct around to face upwards and it blows directly onto the phone and the dock, cooling the phone down considerably.
awesome, ill post some pics once I get a hold of a camera that's not my phone .
My heatsink design, is definitely inefficient, if I had the time and money, I would definitely use better materials. At the time I just did it for fun lol. Thxs for the copper shim idea, I was gonna gravitate towards one of those tiny heatsinks like the ones that are used on the Raspberry Pi, but found it hard to incorporate it in because of the curve plastic.
I didn't even know overheating was a thing on the G3. I've used it pretty heavily, and I've never even felt the slightest bit of warmth. Is this only for certain models? I've got the D850 and you'd think with all the bloatware it'd be likely to heat up even faster. Though it never did on stock, and even now with an international rom it still doesn't. Regardless, that's pretty cool what you did! Never would've thought of it.. Would've been pretty useful on my Nexus 4 though
Frist off sorry for the “enguish”.
I can definitely understand your point, for the majority of “general consumers” who want no frills phone.
But the way I use my “phone” (if you want to describe the device by that small function), tends more towards this device as a true “pocket PC” and because of that I prefer my governor at MAX freq. At that governor I run an multitude of overlays which sum up to using at least ~30%-100% CPU usage FOR WHAT I CONSIDER “CAUSAL USE” (others deff don’t).
In regards to your points on it not even being a portable anymore, I’m trying to work within "reasonable" constraints, and honestly that 40mm fan only adds 10mm of height(that may be too extreme for some but not I). It still fits in my pocket just fine .
The fan currently runs on a slim 1000mah battery and sits underneath the fan (ripped out of battery case).
I can connect the fan to my phone via a 4pin to USB adapter, SO IM CLOSE to FAN PROFILES all I need to do it figure out a way I could vary the voltage output on the G3 (if its possible via the kernel), and then all I need to do is set some custom Tasker strings and BAMB ---> “Fan Profiles”. ---> tbh Still not sure if this can work.
I believe the reason that the G3 has heat issues is not so much in its strict governor (that’s actually supposed to pervert it) but actually its a fundamental fault (or tradeoff) with the G3s thermal design, If you get a chance to see an IFIXIT takedown of the G3, ull see how the (Vol Up/Vol Down + PWD buttons) sort-of choke the 801. I had found some studies comparing temps of various loads among other 801 devices (ill post them once I find them). But I realize the impracticality of the comparison.
And at least for me, most of the AOSP ROMs on my G3 I've flashed I've noticed higher temps ave temps (w/o using it with overlays or anything fancy).
--> Not 100% sure so do call me out im im deff wrong :good:
Citaafox said:
I didn't even know overheating was a thing on the G3. I've used it pretty heavily, and I've never even felt the slightest bit of warmth. Is this only for certain models? I've got the D850 and you'd think with all the bloatware it'd be likely to heat up even faster. Though it never did on stock, and even now with an international rom it still doesn't. Regardless, that's pretty cool what you did! Never would've thought of it.. Would've been pretty useful on my Nexus 4 though
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yah see the problem is a lot of people don't realize that their phone is overheating because the plastic(along with the back buttons) does not conduct the heat away from the processor fast enough for most to physical feel the immense heat under the hood, therefore causing the CPU to throttle to a slowdown.
If I wasn't confusing enough, heres an example:
HTC One M9 (Metal body (better conductor of heat)) vs LG G3 (plastic)
The HTC One M9 will feel hotter (and thusly more people realize and complain about heat) but the CPU temps will be relatively lower and thus throttle less vs the G3 "feeling" cooler but the CPU temps run much hotter causing throttling.
Topic title = genius
Pfeffernuss said:
Topic title = genius
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Where do you power the fan exactly ?
EDIT:Sorry I was trying to post but I could only reply ,
I still don't get how this forum works completely.
It would be nice to see some pics
WstrKuNoužč said:
Have you tried the CTT MOD (Custom Thermal Throttling)? You have to have ROOT+TWRP installed but it does wonders.
You should definitely try it if throttling really bothers you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Which version would you recommend to use? I'm on cloudy g3 1.2 rom
Sent from my LG-D855 using XDA Free mobile app
mab71 said:
Which version would you recommend to use? I'm on cloudy g3 1.2 rom
Sent from my LG-D855 using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, i use 75 degree one and it's great. If you think the phone is too hot for you, you could always try 70, 65 or even stock-like 60 degree one.
Image in the OP is broken, just thought I'd let you know. Although I don't get throttling problems. I heavily underclock the CPU to 960 mHz. One thing I have to agree to would heat issues. About 20 minutes of light use and I'm getting temperatures of about 60 degrees Celsius.
Analysed and optimised by LG-D855
Related
Hi, I was an andorid user and when i had one i loved it too bits then came windows phone 7 and im not going to lie i loved that more, however I am due a upgrade and the sheer power of the new andorid phones overpower windows phone 7 handsets and adter watching some youtube videos web browising is faster. However I have a few questions, would you recommened it? How is the batter life with e-mail updates constant/instant and few web browsing. My old android x8 had soem lag, has this now been sorted due to the power or is it jsut andorid os?
Thanks
Here's some things to consider with the SGS2. Some of what's listed effects different users to different degrees.
- Display
There's a band on the left side that seems discolored on a gray background at 20% brightness in the dark. Some see it in everyday use, some don't. I'd venture a guess that more don't or the hue and cry would be louder. If you're anal retentive about your display, check out the 60 page thread.
- Wi-Fi
Seems wonky for some users. It may be equipment specific (EG: router) or strangeness with a particular handset. There's a couple of threads running on that.
- 2G/3G/4G
There's some connectivity issues depending on what network you're on. Make sure your location and/or carrier aren't ones people may be having issues with.
- Audio
If you're an audiophile there's a couple of threads on audio performance which, due to a number of factors, has been deemed by pros to be below that of the original Galaxy.
- Camera
There's a bunch of threads on stills and video. Read them if you're a heavy camera user. Biggest issue now is a pink spot showing up photographing white backgrounds in natural light.
- Battery
Average at best. As things currently are, plan on 10-16 hours depending on how you use the phone. There's an issue in 2.3.3. that effects dual-core phones and Samsung's issuing an update to 2.3.4. any day now which is supposed to correct it.
Based on the way I (and only I) use the phone I'm very happy and the above issues either don't bother me or don't effect me. The phone's fast, the display is beautiful, and it's a great all around device. Compare your hot buttons to those of others and if you think you're good, by all means get the phone.
Don't forget the color banding, gradients don't appear smooth but look banded like they did in the 90's with 16 bit color
godutch said:
Don't forget the color banding, gradients don't appear smooth but look banded like they did in the 90's with 16 bit color
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There's a thread on whether the phone's fully using its 24bit capabilities via the display. The theory is that when software is directly addressing the screen its fine. When drivers get involved it drops to 16bit. The same thing happened to the Nexus S and was fixed in 2.3.4. We're hoping the same thing happens.
I would just like to that all you for your comments, so far all the problems are actully scaring me lol. However with all these problems would you still reccommened this phone? If so do you like it more than your previous andorid phone?
Thanks
andoridkiller said:
I would just like to that all you for your comments, so far all the problems are actully scaring me lol. However with all these problems would you still reccommened this phone? If so do you like it more than your previous andorid phone?
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Problems i have none of the above and suggest the ones that do are in a minority as always .
Choice is yours but remember that a forum like tis does not get may saying its brilliant by its very nature those that perceive a problem post those that dont have the problem dont post .
Plus the posters of xxx problem always manage to post multiple threads saying exactly the same .
jje
JJEgan said:
Problems i have none of the above and suggest the ones that do are in a minority as always .
Choice is yours but remember that a forum like tis does not get may saying its brilliant by its very nature those that perceive a problem post those that dont have the problem dont post .
Plus the posters of xxx problem always manage to post multiple threads saying exactly the same .
jje
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1 nicely put
Sent from my GT-P1000 using XDA Premium App
andoridkiller said:
I would just like to that all you for your comments, so far all the problems are actully scaring me lol. However with all these problems would you still reccommened this phone? If so do you like it more than your previous andorid phone?
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Look, if your just using it as a device that can phone, text, take pics when you need that arent for a magazine or something, play some tunes whilst you are on the bus or whatever, do some modding if you are that way inclined then buy it. If you are fussy about anything like that find something else. People will always find problems with devices like this as they are used to better maybe or compare it to a device thats is specifically for playing music or taking photos. This is a great phone, best i have had and i am well pleased. Just my opinion anyway.
Im so tired of people summing up everyones experience. I have a sgs2 from first batch and I have none of the problems youll find on the first 2-3 pages of threads. Remember like the member above me said, people with complaint threads will post before a postive thread. Complaint threads will get the most attention and see the most post. There might be less then 10 members actually having the problem if you read through the thread.
Display: gradients on screen is really only not that noticable unless your anal. Only time I see it is when I open xda app(takes ages to load on brown screen) and others are seeing it on the intro to angry birds. Not while actually playing but the intro lol. Screen is beautiful and works 99.9% correctly.
Wifi: I have no issues with connection or speed. I download lost of big files daily. Mostly mixtapes and other files usually around a 100mb+. I get connection and my 15-20mbs download no matter where im at in my house.
2g/3g/4g/ My device stays connected through 3g all day. When im actually downloading or using data it switches in 1sec to H+. Real world usage is really fast in North florida but if im playing with speedtest apps I will get mixed reviews.
Audio- I start my music at work around 9am everyday. I work with loud ass dogs and other various animals on a daily basis. Never had a problem with audio coming through my handset and I use the included headphones. At 50% I can hear my audio over barking dogs. In my vehicle with my 2 12s and 1000w amp you can hear me from a block away. Easily matches my wifes iphone4 if not better with poweramps eq.
Camera- No issues here. Just getting back from short trips to jacksonville fl, orlando, and north georgia(mostly ATL) and no pink spots on my photos.
Battery life is all user to user. I myself have the luxury of charging my phone over night unlike others on the website. I can do my heavy using from 9-6 everyday and still have 30-50% when I get home. Music is always playing through headphones(9-6) 2 emails checking hourly, check xda 1000times, browse atleast 20 websites throughout the day and other numerous stuff and can make it home after a work day. If I was anal I could get 2days out of my phone before it actually dies. Remember with android most problems are User Error.
Unless you are in love with Sense, theres no phone that can match it until the next sgs comes out.
BarryH_GEG said:
Here's some things to consider with the SGS2. Some of what's listed effects different users to different degrees.
- Display
There's a band on the left side that seems discolored on a gray background at 20% brightness in the dark. Some see it in everyday use, some don't. I'd venture a guess that more don't or the hue and cry would be louder. If you're anal retentive about your display, check out the 60 page thread.
- Wi-Fi
Seems wonky for some users. It may be equipment specific (EG: router) or strangeness with a particular handset. There's a couple of threads running on that.
- 2G/3G/4G
There's some connectivity issues depending on what network you're on. Make sure your location and/or carrier aren't ones people may be having issues with.
- Audio
If you're an audiophile there's a couple of threads on audio performance which, due to a number of factors, has been deemed by pros to be below that of the original Galaxy.
- Camera
There's a bunch of threads on stills and video. Read them if you're a heavy camera user. Biggest issue now is a pink spot showing up photographing white backgrounds in natural light.
- Battery
Average at best. As things currently are, plan on 10-16 hours depending on how you use the phone. There's an issue in 2.3.3. that effects dual-core phones and Samsung's issuing an update to 2.3.4. any day now which is supposed to correct it.
Based on the way I (and only I) use the phone I'm very happy and the above issues either don't bother me or don't effect me. The phone's fast, the display is beautiful, and it's a great all around device. Compare your hot buttons to those of others and if you think you're good, by all means get the phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
intruda119 said:
Display: gradients on screen is really only not that noticable unless your anal. Only time I see it is when I open xda app(takes ages to load on brown screen) and others are seeing it on the intro to angry birds. Not while actually playing but the intro lol. Screen is beautiful and works 99.9% correctly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you call this "not that noticable" I give up :
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
(Nexus One vs S2 @ "the Impossible Game" )
Do you think this is a normal IQ for a High End device like the S2?
As to Angry Birds 1 & Rio (and other games too) it is not only noticable in the intros my friend ... if you play them you will see !
Yeah I consider that not noticable in my book.
1st photo is a picture of the battery charging when phone is turned off if I'm correct. I don't stare at my screen when its just charging. In my real world use ill never see that long enough to annoy me.
2nd pic is when its connected to kies. When I actually use keis I'm not looking at the phone. I'm not saying its not there but the first 2 pics is not something I see daily. Im guessing the 3rd is a game but I don't play it. But the gradient is there.
I'm pretty sure I've heard its a software issue and not hardware. I find the pictures you posted funny. It shows me how hard it is to reproduce the gradients. But like I've said before I must have crap standards to accept a phone with imperfections. Can't believe I spent 700 on the best phone out to date.
To me this is a small issue that's resolved with a software update or one of the amazing devs come up with something. We don't have a ton of choices and I rather have gradients on a FEW screens vs what HTC is doing.
I understand that im a early adaptor of a device. Things may be changed/fixed in the next couple of months like nfc or something.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
intruda119 said:
Im so tired of people summing up everyones experience.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So your solution is to sum up yours and assume your individual device and personal expectations trump all? All hail the king.
Im running alien4 and faux123 v21 kernel, and i am loving it so far but its HOT lol.
Im leaning towards putting a heat sink on the cpu since its right next to the sdcard. At least a thick peace of metal, the new kernel is doing a good job keeping the cpu from over heating by dropping the clock rate. Also webtop is not working right just the top bar is crashing or missing, at first i thought this was a rom problem but now i see it has something to do with the new kernel. if anyone knows of a fix please step forward. Im going to look around too, so when i find one ill let you know.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Woah woah woah. Holy shiet. Can you take a picture of your phone showing your temp that high? I don't even think it's possible to hit that high of a temp? It's supposed to auto shut off after it goes above a certain temp and I thought that temp would be lower than 89C.
haha will do, the cpu will hit that and slowly scale back as to not over heat lol. 1450 to 850 mhz and then jump back to 1450 again all in 5 seconds so its acting like a governor on a car i guess. ill post a screen shot
That's freaking intense, try under volting, also if you haven't already set some profiles in set CPU.
As for the webtop, maybe reflashing the kernel may help
Sent from my CM860
Faux said it himself, 1.45 GHz is pushing the phone to its physical limit. If you want it to last more then a month, I'd set some good profiles, or even underclock it to 1.3 on setCPU. That's what I did!
Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk
iRobby said:
That's freaking intense, try under volting, also if you haven't already set some profiles in set CPU.
As for the webtop, maybe reflashing the kernel may help
Sent from my CM860
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
im going to try kholk's kernel and see if that helps for the webtop crash. I want to look into building a heat sink into my docking station that presses against the chip.
Why would you even need 1.45 ghz? To show your friends that don't care?
Sent from my Atrix
andrew.cambridge said:
Why would you even need 1.45 ghz? To show your friends that don't care?
Sent from my Atrix
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
unlike the dragon processors of the old, these arm cpus don't drastically preform better with each mhz so for me to run webtop and all the other multitasking programs i use. i need this arm cpu to be as fast as possible but even now webtop alone is kicking its ass. so even though you don't need that much power, i need more... its got the ram and the gpu but these arm cpus are not as good as they seem
What were you doing to get the phone to get that hot? I have a 1.45Ghz Kernel on my phone, and I spent at least an hour straight yesterday doing benchmark after benchmark, and my phone didn't even get warm (though I did put up some siiiiiick benchmark numbers).
When I said "didn't even get warm" I mean that the screen, capacative buttons, and back cover never got warm to the touch. Not even a little.
DK
Dude. Drop the overclock. You're right on the border where parts begin to get permanently damaged if not already past. An extra 450mhz isnt worth that. And if its constantly scaling that fast, its not helping unless its staying down until you drop below 60C which I doubt can happen in a mere 5 seconds like you claim.
As far as the webtop, no kernel newer than 1.9 works with the webtop. You'll have that issue, plus the phone won't down-clock from 1450mhz after you unplug the webtop.
Jotokun said:
Dude. Drop the overclock. You're right on the border where parts begin to get permanently damaged if not already past. An extra 450mhz isnt worth that. And if its constantly scaling that fast, its not helping unless its staying down until you drop below 60C which I doubt can happen in a mere 5 seconds like you claim.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
why would it drop below 60C? i never said that... i just said it backs of after reaching 192F but not by much.
DeathKoil said:
What were you doing to get the phone to get that hot? I have a 1.45Ghz Kernel on my phone, and I spent at least an hour straight yesterday doing benchmark after benchmark, and my phone didn't even get warm (though I did put up some siiiiiick benchmark numbers).
When I said "didn't even get warm" I mean that the screen, capacative buttons, and back cover never got warm to the touch. Not even a little.
DK
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes i probably should clear some stuff up, the phone is more then powerful enough for smartphone activities so even now i only run it at 800 with high under volt. So just like everyone else i do take my phone seriously, if i could i would run it at 450 mhz all the time but the phone program messes up... this temp was reached in the dock with webtop turned on which because the phone is just barely strong enough to run, it keeps the cpu at a constant full throttle. the throttling programs are not as advanced as they were with PPC's
On a side note im starting to think that because webtop is running the phone will not shutdown but instead just throttle back
blackghost1010 said:
Yes i probably should clear some stuff up, the phone is more then powerful enough for smartphone activities so even now i only run it at 800 with high under volt. So just like everyone else i do take my phone seriously, if i could i would run it at 450 mhz all the time but the phone program messes up... this temp was reached in the dock with webtop turned on which because the phone is just barely strong enough to run, it keeps the cpu at a constant full throttle. the throttling programs are not as advanced as they were with PPC's
On a side note im starting to think that because webtop is running the phone will not shutdown but instead just throttle back
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
there's a known bug with the 2.0 and i guess the 2.1 version as well; when you plug the phone into lapdock or HDMI port with the webtop hack, the CPU runs at max until you reset the phone.
Alcapone263 said:
there's a known bug with the 2.0 and i guess the 2.1 version as well; when you plug the phone into lapdock or HDMI port with the webtop hack, the CPU runs at max until you reset the phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Damnit i just set it in there... well i need the webtop so 1.9 here i come.
or i mite try kholk's kernel
Kraize said:
Holy shiet....89C.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Holy shiet is right. Your phone has become a fantastic cup-warming coaster, congrats. Realistically, are the super benchmark results worth crisping your phone?
i just want to make a comment for anyone who wants to post without getting burned, no pun intended. I was one of the first people to reach this temperature, i even have a youtube vid of a slice of butter melting on the batt cover. Some people really flamed me for it to, acting like i was attention hungry, but i think there might be some sort of manufacturing flaw , maybe not a flaw but inconsistencies and my phone was MOST subjected to it, my girl has an atrix and very similar set ups and never got that warm, or even close! i think now that we are pushing it more phones along this end of the bell curve are reaching these temps, now if my phone makes its till the hspa nexus gets released im happy so i will gladly report if the atrix burns out and under what sets of conditions but i think we should be a lot more understanding of people report
Mrglass86 said:
i just want to make a comment for anyone who wants to post without getting burned, no pun intended. I was one of the first people to reach this temperature, i even have a youtube vid of a slice of butter melting on the batt cover. Some people really flamed me for it to, acting like i was attention hungry, but i think there might be some sort of manufacturing flaw , maybe not a flaw but inconsistencies and my phone was MOST subjected to it, my girl has an atrix and very similar set ups and never got that warm, or even close! i think now that we are pushing it more phones along this end of the bell curve are reaching these temps, now if my phone makes its till the hspa nexus gets released im happy so i will gladly report if the atrix burns out and under what sets of conditions but i think we should be a lot more understanding of people report
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is what insurance is for: dunk it in the water.
I believe using a live wallpaper will increase the temps as well because on my phone at 1300MHz, I was getting 62C (constant) with a live wallpaper, and now with a normal wallpaper, the temp will stay between 48-58C.
crea78 said:
I believe using a live wallpaper will increase the temps as well because on my phone at 1300MHz, I was getting 62C (constant) with a live wallpaper, and now with a normal wallpaper, the temp will stay between 48-58C.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Right, live wallpapers constantly use resources leaving little real idling time.
Hi if someone could translate the instructions on this page:
http://www.radiation-watch.org/p/assembly-manual.html#sec7
into english it would make a pretty cool addon.
Thanks
FTFY! (Need 10 characters to answer you)
search the market for com.rdklein.radioactivity
its a geiger counter based on your camera taped off and it seems pretty legit and amazing
check the website too
hotray-info.de
luckily i couldn't really test it yet
cougarten said:
search the market for com.rdklein.radioactivity
its a geiger counter based on your camera taped off and it seems pretty legit and amazing
check the website too
hotray-info.de
luckily i couldn't really test it yet
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was looking forward to testing this until I realized they want five bucks for it. Also judging by the reviews I would say it's either a scam or it just wouldn't work with my phone anyways, someone else with an Evo 3D put on there that it didn't pick up anything from a radium watch or a stack thorium welding rods.
How can the camera pick up radio active particals to make a Geiger counter? When the cmos is only designed to pick up emf (electro magnetic frequency) in the human visual spectrum? OK given that most cmos camera devices will stretch a little bit outside the normal human spectrum up to infrared but not much more than that, radio active particals are not within the visual emf of humans...
sent from my legend, currently using extream legend fuse™
ranger4740 said:
How can the camera pick up radio active particals to make a Geiger counter? When the cmos is only designed to pick up emf (electro magnetic frequency) in the human visual spectrum? OK given that most cmos camera devices will stretch a little bit outside the normal human spectrum up to infrared but not much more than that, radio active particals are not within the visual emf of humans...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is because that radioactive particles are much higher energy and will act on the CMOS detector. It works by figuring out what the noise pattern on your camera is then it just looks for spikes in pixels or groups of pixels and maps those are radiation. There are some fudge factors to convert from pixels and stuff to actual radiation numbers.
So does your camera have to be active for this to work? Or can it work passively?
The sensor will need to be open (active).
Keep in mind that it'll be somewhat useful to detect the presence of radiation, but absolutely useless for quantifying it. It'll also be quite insensitive.
If you're after a dose rate (quantifying) meter, you'd be better served by a serial-connected counter. If you're just mucking around though, the camera-based one may suffice
It's somewhat similar to the pulse detector apps for phones... Cool to play with, and lets you say "oh my heart rate is faster after I did my run"... But while it's relatively accurate, you'd want a real monitor for any serious usage... Or take the pulse manually
I guess similar applies here. The dosage depends on the amount of radiation emitted, not how much manages to "light up" the Cmos above background noise...
Again, cool to point at rock which is slightly above background levels, but no something you want to rely on.
Oh just thought of something, the sample rate of the sensor would effect the readings wouldn't it?
sent from my legend, currently using extream legend fuse™
The "REAL RadioactivityCounter" made by scientist Rolf-Dieter Klein, is indeed a very serious competitor. The mere fact that someone has bothered to work out the details how to make a cheap mobile cam, detect ionizing radiation, deserves a PhD by it self.
The difference in using your phone with taped over cam, costing you $5 bucks, is nothing compared to buying a dedicated device in the $100+ range, that is only slightly better for certain types of short-range radiation like (alpha and low-energy beta). In addition the cam CMOS sensors doesn't saturate under high doses, like an ionization based device, and thus provides better accuracy!
The sensitivity depends on the physics of your mobile camera, where most phone cams start picking up radiation at about 10 µSv/h. For the iPad2 it picks up radiation already at the 1 µSv/h level.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
So unless you are making high-precision, low-energy or background radiation measurements (like looking for Radon in houses), this app is worth every penny. In addition it is one of the best supported apps out there, with a solid scientific base.
Links:
Hack-A-Day - presentation and review
Developer Web Site
Forum
I especially like the radioactive Bavarian mushrooms YouTube video!
Would this be sensitive enough to detect leakage outside of x-ray rooms ? Yes, I realize that is is not a substitute for the devices used by licensed radiation safety expert.
bamx2 said:
Would this be sensitive enough to detect leakage outside of x-ray rooms ? Yes, I realize that is is not a substitute for the devices used by licensed radiation safety expert.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Probably not, since "leakage" measurements involve low level (and possibly also low energy) detection, under a long time.
It works
Sent from my Wildfire S using Tapatalk 2
It appears the Evo 3D is on their site of devices it works with, so maybe that was just a garbage review after all? It would be nice if there was a trial version for it, I have some Cd-109 and Sr-90 sources I'd like to test it with.
You would think the optics would block nearly all of it, but they say some cameras can still pick up beta particles (Sr-90 specifically). If so this may be useful in finding pitchblende.
xHausx said:
It appears the Evo 3D is on their site of devices it works with, so maybe that was just a garbage review after all? It would be nice if there was a trial version for it, I have some Cd-109 and Sr-90 sources I'd like to test it with.
You would think the optics would block nearly all of it, but they say some cameras can still pick up beta particles (Sr-90 specifically). If so this may be useful in finding pitchblende.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Again it depend on the construction and location of the camera module. This is also the reason why they prefer to use the front facing camera for this. It simply contains less lenses and simpler electronics, that can complicate proper measurements. According to the developer, measuring pitchblende is working really well!
pulser_g2 said:
It's somewhat similar to the pulse detector apps for phones... Cool to play with, and lets you say "oh my heart rate is faster after I did my run"... But while it's relatively accurate, you'd want a real monitor for any serious usage... Or take the pulse manually
I guess similar applies here. The dosage depends on the amount of radiation emitted, not how much manages to "light up" the Cmos above background noise...
Again, cool to point at rock which is slightly above background levels, but no something you want to rely on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not necessarily... any good heart rate monitoring app works completely perfectly. Maybe you have a bad camera/flash position or the app can't count. It's exactly the same as a pulse ox that they use in hospitals, no reason it'd be any less accurate. If you don't believe me go break into an ER and measure with both
Got this information from slatedroid by ebsbow, online.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Voyo A1 with Intel Atom Quad-core:
- Intel Atom Z3735D [email protected](2core burstmode@1.8Ghz)
- Intel Atom Z3735f is the new cheaper slower version.
- Using the next-gen 22nm technology. More power less energy.
- Intel HD technology GPU(build around 4 EU and 700Mhz)
- 8" new technology 1280*800 IPS screen(approx. 194dpi)
- 2Gb Single channel DDR3L-RS
- 32Gb internal space(minus installation and restore space)
- SD card expansion slot for extra 32Gb~64Gb
- Windows 8.1(64bit) full version(not RT)
- Supporting virtualization, x86 apps, Metro apps...
- HDMI output(Max.FHD)
- Charging port 9v 2Amps.
- Micro usb OTG(also for 5v charging)
- BT 4.0, Wifi b-g-n
- Dual camera's: 2.0Mpx(Pipo w2/Livefan: 5Mpx). Minimal but handy.
- Accelerometer, Gyroscope.
- Plastic shell, sturdy and basic clean design.
- About the same weight and dimensions as a Nexus 7(first gen)
- Comes in various funky color:
Gray(metal), White, Green, Blue, Pink(dark), Yellow.. No black.
Originally based on the Emdoor-i8080(Z3735G China)
- i8180
- 8080-A
- 8080-C
Look a likes include:
2G 32G(64-bit single channel)
- Pipo W2(Z3735D China) xda
- Croma 1179(Z3735D India)
- QUMO Vega 8008W(Z3735F Russia?)
- LIVEFAN F8C(Z3735D China+64Gb version)
- sTouch W801(Z3735D China)
- SonQi w1088(Z3735D China)
- Jumper EZ pad(Z3735E China)
1G 16Gb(32-bit single channel)
- CUBE iwork U80GT(Z3735E or Z3735D+gps(..)) xda
- FNF Fine 8(Z3735E)
- Other...?
First look at the price point, then acknowledge it's an cool little 8" Windows 8.1 Intel Atom device.
Nice screen and battery life is great in normal use. The power drain of running full fletch PC games,
which are fare more complex then Android games, is much higher. Metro games are obviously more
suitable. They are efficient, smaller and modern. Nonetheless some older PC games run surprising well.
It is also possible to install Android(x86 64-bit) or an Linux distribution if you like. And because of its x86
nature and running an full fletch OS, all Windows applications will work fine. With a few exceptions like
running the latest Photoshop CC. This may prove not very productive or efficient on an 8" screen.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It has come to our attention that some sellers are dispatching fake D types to buyers.
Obviously we will not stand for this. If you are victim of this let us know(post or pm), we will post them here.
If you buy through paypal or aliexpress you are secured with buyers protection. Make use of it to complain.
-Banggood
-Amazon(lots of seller sell fake D)
-ebay(lots of seller sell fake D)
-Aliexpress(lots of seller sell fake D)
-efox
...
Bought an fake sdcard? Let s now what shop. Post or pm.
Check fakes sdcard(suggestion by ebsbow)
-Amazon(lots of seller sell fake 64gb)
-ebay(lots of seller sell fake 64gb)
Additional Slatedroid Voyo A1 forum
Problems:
<i>In case you are locked in an update loop, use this recovery walkthrough(courtesy of Downstar) <here>
And then there is some other info. (Also by ebsbow.)
For those who don't know yet, the differences between Z3735 models are designated with D - E - F or G.
All-in-all the following applies.
Spoiler
Type 4 SoC model D of the Z3735 series seems the best choice for more extended use. The other
versions are streamlined from there. Not just lower memory and functions but the price is very competitive.
They all run at the same core frequency of Quad-1.58Ghz to Dual-1.8Ghz. So the streamlining consists by
reducing the amount of internal hardware components.
Because of this the F version will have the same memory values as D but will effectively run a little bit slower
in real world applications then the latter(..)
For Internet, video, music, casual game, the E and G variants will more then suffice and will come with lower
thermal resistance. Battery life will be longer and the price lower.
D will perform all these task with 2Gb 32Gb (an a 64-bit Windows) a bit better for just an couple of buck more.
Posted pricing seems a bit weird on most Chinese sites, e.g. selling E and G's at the same price as a D.
They should be going for around a 115$ ~ 125$. D's should go for around a 135$ ~ 160$ or less.
Just be sure to look at that when making your choice.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So it is possible to install Android and Linux on this.
It should be running and 32-bit version of windows 8.1 in WIM configuration right now.
This seem an good place to start Link
Hey Buddy, just found your awesome post here.
I have the hardware drivers for those in need of them. <here>(82.1Mb)
There from the A1. Don't know if they are the same for the other models.
<i>Still waiting for the tablet, so I haven't tested any of these yet.
Sweet! Those will come in handy. Thanks, ebsbow!
i've been using this tablet for about a month now, it's a really good tablet for its price range, capable of running all kinds of daily apps that i need, a couple of nice games, and the battery life is amazing..
Guy's I am looking to get an 64Gb sd card for this. But it seems not all versions or types do work. It
does support SDXC/SDHC(obviously) 64Gb class 10.
With all those differences on sale it's troublesome to go out and buy one just randomly. Even if they are class brands.
If you could share your experiences on this that would be great. Model, type, brand etc..
Here you can read a review
http://www.retroandroid.com/review-tablet-windows-8-1-voyo-a1-mini/
Very good tablet.
Here you can see some videos:
The bang for the buck is great.
I've owned one of these for over a month now and I love it. I get a whole lot more use out of this than my ASUS TF300T.
I can't say enough good things about it, really. I've put it through it's paces and it hasn't let me down yet. I took the time to turn off eye candy where-ever possibly and applied all the usual gamer tweaks one should do to Windows and extended my battery life out a bit.
I've run Fallout 3 and Skyrim on it. Sure, it takes some concessions on video quality and some mods to reduce memory overhead, but the balance is acceptable and quite enjoyable to play. Not to mention the scads of GoG games that run well on here. Neverwinter Nights and Baldur's Gate play flawlessly.
I see people wanting to run Photoshop on it. I say, why not? While the latest and greatest Photoshop CS may be a bloated whore, Photoshop CS3 runs brilliantly here and gives access to most of the tools in the CS arsenal.
I've been able to run Linux Mint in a VM through VMPlayer, and thanks so some tips from the ASUS T100 guys have been able to at least boot Ubuntu to a terminal in native mode. So a native Linux install is certainly possible, but beyond my expertise at the moment. There is a version of this tablet that comes with Android preinstalled, but Bluestacks runs on it fine, and I've been able to launch some games using ARCHON-APK in Chrome, so I kind of have the best of both worlds there.
Hardware compatibility thusfar has been 100%. I have yet to encounter a peice of hardware that causes grief. My XBOX 360 wireless contoller and dongle work perfect, and the bluetooth is even compatible with Wiimotes, so gaming is easy. Even something as obscure as a Serial Port replicator that I have laying around for running Drivewire with my CoCo II was detected and worked without a hitch.
Like I said I've hit this thing with everything I have got and it hasn't let me down yet. I just hope someone gets a fully functional native Linux install working on it so I can use it as a portable development studio, too.
Any problems with charging?
[email protected] said:
i've been using this tablet for about a month now, it's a really good tablet for its price range, capable of running all kinds of daily apps that i need, a couple of nice games, and the battery life is amazing..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi Ryan,
Do you have any problems using this device when charging? I have one, but when it is plugged in to the mains (NOT trickle charge through USB) the screen registers multiple touches for each single touch, making it unusable.
Thanks,
Jason.
@jcsammut -
I have the same issue, it appears to be bleed off from the charging circuit affecting the capacitance of the touch screen. It only seems to happen for me when the battery is fully charged. It may be the screen protector acting as a capacitor as well, not certain though. I usually will just unplug it and let it drain back down to 25% or so and plug it back in. It doesn't act that way when you charge via USB. I use a Bluetooth mouse 90% of the time so the touchscreen going berserk on a full charge isn't a game-breaker for me, personally.
themagi said:
@jcsammut -
I have the same issue, it appears to be bleed off from the charging circuit affecting the capacitance of the touch screen. It only seems to happen for me when the battery is fully charged. It may be the screen protector acting as a capacitor as well, not certain though. I usually will just unplug it and let it drain back down to 25% or so and plug it back in. It doesn't act that way when you charge via USB. I use a Bluetooth mouse 90% of the time so the touchscreen going berserk on a full charge isn't a game-breaker for me, personally.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Strange, it happens for me regardless of charge amount, but it is sometimes intermittent at any charge level - e.g. one second it does it and the next it doesn't.
I agree that it does not do it via USB but the trickle charge is not enough to sustain a charge under normal usage and the battery depletes.
I tend to use a mouse too, but is a bit of a pain when just wanting to use the touch screen. Oh well now I know it affects multiple devices I may stick with it.
Out of interest could it be a shielding issue of the adapter itself? Would a different model help perhaps.
Thanks.
jcsammut said:
Out of interest could it be a shielding issue of the adapter itself? Would a different model help perhaps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Certainly couldn't hurt to try especially if you have a compatible adapter that has a ground plug. I've never noticed if the plug on the stock adapter is polarized. It might make a difference if the polarity is switched.
I have the same thing around 80% when the battery is charging. Only horizontally.
I seem to remember reading something about an little adapter thingy to add to the charger tip.
Buggster said:
I have the same thing around 80% when the battery is charging. Only horizontally.
I seem to remember reading something about an little adapter thingy to add to the charger tip.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Interesting, I just tried portrait but it still happens.
Any idea what the 'little adapter thingy' is?
I am trying to find an alternative power supply, but everyone seems to offer a 9v 2a adapter with a 2.5mm barrel, when this take a 2mm barrel.
Cheers!
No buddy, can't recall. I forgot reading about something regarding this kind of problem before I got the tablet.
Some adapter. 2mm in, something magical in between, 2mm out
I'll may look into it later today. Probably have an link to it somewhere..
edit;
you can also try an usb to 2mm cable on an prober usb adapter
Buggster said:
No buddy, can't recall. I forgot reading about something regarding this kind of problem before I got the tablet.
Some adapter. 2mm in, something magical in between, 2mm out
I'll may look into it later today. Probably have an link to it somewhere..
edit;
you can also try an usb to 2mm cable on an prober usb adapter
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Cheers mate, I will try searching for that, as searching google for "2mm in, something magical in between, 2mm out" returned some very 'intersting' results .......magic gold rope anyone?.
Did some research and this touchscreen issue is definitely related to the ungrounded charger supplied by the manufacturer.
Apparently it's a common problem with newer touchscreens because of the push for thinness. It produces EMI interference that causes a "ripple" effect to cross the screen outward from the charging plug. This is why the extra touches always seem to be in-line with your finger. A way to avoid it "temporarily" is to touch the grounded edge of the USB port or other exposed metal surface while using the touchscreen. It puts you on the same ground plane as the device and "mutes" the "ripple" effect.
The cleaner the power from the Mains the less you'll notice this effect. So a quality surge filter will probably help at the plug end.
You could also try one of these.. Which should filter the noise out and "mute" the "ripple."
I think I have one of those barrel filters at my house. I'll try to find it and see if it works for me. Touching the USB port works for sure as I've tried it myself.
Magic gold rope, my basement visitor may appreciate that. Eew. Just kidding guy's!
What I have reckoned so far is that using 1.5a vs 2.0a charge would be beneficial to
lessen the interference when loading. So at this point I suspect using 'a' capacitor,
as already suggested, as the magic part. The extra benefit would be an longer cable!
It would slowdown the loading cycle, but don't see a problem there.
Anyone volunteering to make an schematic?
edit; good find thmagi. didn't see your post there.
It's been a long time since I held a Sony mobile device.
My psvita looks like a joke compared to it.
The speed and features are stunning and the battery life is not bad at all.
The whole out side body is sturdy and i love the device.
Well done Sony.
Won't be rooting it, wont be modding it for a long time.
Will be looking forward to have more devices from the Z series in my hand.
Compared with ps vita?
Sent from my C6903 using Tapatalk
Rly dude?
odie70 said:
Compared with ps vita?
Sent from my C6903 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Compared to several devices i have held and modded.
So far my Z1 is a damn fine device.
If I could run my vita games on her "and yes she has the power" I would.
I know, I know everyone is expecting me to burst out with "what a pile of **** ***** and ****** ** The * *********"
nope i love this device.
bloodofJesus said:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No i'm lying.. pfft.
XD you cannot troll the troll.
On a serious note it's a awesome device.
I just want the textures fixed for doom 3.
:edit and that seems to be fixed after the 5.1.1 update.
I'm very curious about how to made such a perfect FW like this. When I use my Z1, I find it seems to be made by computer like CM buildbot. I guess it's japanese style.
They should know how to google at least.
PielunA said:
I'm very curious about how to made such a perfect FW like this. When I use my Z1, I find it seems to be made by computer like CM buildbot. I guess it's japanese style.
They should know how to google at least.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think they spent a lot of time looking at fine detail and features.
I personally wish i could select a much darker theme.
But yeah Sony has always been good at making stuff look sexy.
I'm using a z1 right now the only thing I am not satisfied with is the battery life
Ohhdayumm said:
I'm using a z1 right now the only thing I am not satisfied with is the battery life
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think the chip is clocked way too high to keep cool and be power efficient unfortunately.
The 3G, LTE radio is set way too fast and this adds more drain and heat.
So in fact the device is cooking itself to death just like the x10 did.
OmegaRED^ said:
I think the chip is clocked way too high to keep cool and be power efficient unfortunately.
The 3G, LTE radio is set way too fast and this adds more drain and heat.
So in fact the device is cooking itself to death just like the x10 did.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea you are right my phone heats up while using data very quickly and the battery drains
Ohhdayumm said:
Yea you are right my phone heats up while using data very quickly and the battery drains
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They could pull down the speed on the 3G/LTE radio more.
As over 1MB a sec is overkill.
And i think this will be the thing that makes me root and drop in a custom kernel.
:edit
So yeah I suggest adding a 3G/LTE speed limiter in future builds for the phone.
Z1 is one of the best devices in the market
OmegaRED^ said:
They could pull down the speed on the 3G/LTE radio more.
As over 1MB a sec is overkill.
And i think this will be the thing that makes me root and drop in a custom kernel.
:edit
So yeah I suggest adding a 3G/LTE speed limiter in future builds for the phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Cant relate to it. My Z1 is around 25 degrees in standby (battery) and CPU less than 40 degrees with ambient temp of 20-22 degrees. All power saving functions disabled and no queue for data. With use battery is 30-35 seldom reaches 40 and CPU between 45 and 60 depending on work. It's even less when on 4G instead of 4G + WiFi. I also got tons of background services running constantly like Adguard Premium (high quality for all apps filtering), KIS Security checking all connections and all file operations, Whatsapp, KiK, Messenger, Dumpster, GSAM monitor, ACR, Apex Launcher, AppLock, Clipper+, Gmail, Gravity Screen (proximity auto lock/unlock for flipcover), Greenify, HeadsOff, Notifyer+, TrueCaller, Type Machine, Weather Timeline, KCAL LCD calibrator and more.
Screen brightness 40-45%, sound enhancements on, X-Reality off, SOT around 4 hours (includes around 50 photos captured, photo editing on mobile and more).
Only time ever it heats to the battery to 45 degrees and CPU to 70-72 degrees is when clearing dalvik cache and it rebuilds it at boot (ambient temp 25).
EQ2000 said:
Cant relate to it. My Z1 is around 25 degrees in standby (battery) and CPU less than 40 degrees with ambient temp of 20-22 degrees. All power saving functions disabled and no queue for data. With use battery is 30-35 seldom reaches 40 and CPU between 45 and 60 depending on work. It's even less when on 4G instead of 4G + WiFi. I also got tons of background services running constantly like Adguard Premium (high quality for all apps filtering), KIS Security checking all connections and all file operations, Whatsapp, KiK, Messenger, Dumpster, GSAM monitor, ACR, Apex Launcher, AppLock, Clipper+, Gmail, Gravity Screen (proximity auto lock/unlock for flipcover), Greenify, HeadsOff, Notifyer+, TrueCaller, Type Machine, Weather Timeline, KCAL LCD calibrator and more.
Screen brightness 40-45%, sound enhancements on, X-Reality off, SOT around 4 hours (includes around 50 photos captured, photo editing on mobile and more).
Only time ever it heats to the battery to 45 degrees and CPU to 70-72 degrees is when clearing dalvik cache and it rebuilds it at boot (ambient temp 25).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
4G seems less problematic than 3G.
Low signal also effects heat.
Try playing Nova 3.
The phone turns into a nuclear reactor.
Yeah.. Now i am raging..
This phone is a cancer to unlock... Its a pain to figure out what roms will work and a total witch to fine tune. My s4mini took 1 day to get on a fully stable custom rom.
Idk wtf sony is thinking.. The cpu clock is way to high and the heat output is brutal.
Not everyone lives in a liquid nitrogen jar.
.
You live in the djungle or? How hot is the weather Tarzan?
EQ2000 said:
You live in the djungle or? How hot is the weather Tarzan?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its about 25 to 30*c ambiently normally.
Plus with the increase in heat from global warming i see a sad future ahead for mobile chip developers.
My sgs4 mini never overheated this badly even when clocked to 2GHz
Im hoping that there is something i can do like disable 2 of the cores or drop the clock a bit once i finally get it properly on a custom rom else me and this device are going to be tough on each other.
My X10i also bloody overheated like this when downloading over 3G or gaming heavy stuff it drove me insane.
OmegaRED^ said:
Its about 25 to 30*c ambiently normally.
Plus with the increase in heat from global warming i see a sad future ahead for mobile chip developers.
My sgs4 mini never overheated this badly even when clocked to 2GHz
Im hoping that there is something i can do like disable 2 of the cores or drop the clock a bit once i finally get it properly on a custom rom else me and this device are going to be tough on each other.
My X10i also bloody overheated like this when downloading over 3G or gaming heavy stuff it drove me insane.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well I do agree they are putting in and/or clocking CPUs at such levels the heat dissipation aint really adequate and thus makes phones throttle CPU/GPU. Just look at early SD810 equipped mobiles. They IRL with random above normal workload performed worse than A SD800 equipped phone due to constantly throttling creating hitches. They design thermal dissipation to just be enough for benchmarks (where many are worthless and or easy to cheat 'legally'). Few mobiles you can run at 100% CPU and GPU load without them throttling at some point, earlier or later. Though the Z1 has quite good thermal characteristics and throttling should seldom if ever happen unless something is locking the CPU and GPU to 100% for prolonged periods.
For normal use, movies 4k, Youtube it is far from reaching throttling levels. Games I cant comment since I dont play on my mobile. Not interested and my opinion is almost all games are coded in a ****ty way using unecessary resources and the fact you cant even chose render resolution ingame is ridicolous. A game like Prey for PC would be perfectly doable on the SD800 at 1080 yet no Android game even comes close to such visuals.
EQ2000 said:
Well I do agree they are putting in and/or clocking CPUs at such levels the heat dissipation aint really adequate and thus makes phones throttle CPU/GPU. Just look at early SD810 equipped mobiles. They IRL with random above normal workload performed worse than A SD800 equipped phone due to constantly throttling creating hitches. They design thermal dissipation to just be enough for benchmarks (where many are worthless and or easy to cheat 'legally'). Few mobiles you can run at 100% CPU and GPU load without them throttling at some point, earlier or later. Though the Z1 has quite good thermal characteristics and throttling should seldom if ever happen unless something is locking the CPU and GPU to 100% for prolonged periods.
For normal use, movies 4k, Youtube it is far from reaching throttling levels. Games I cant comment since I dont play on my mobile. Not interested and my opinion is almost all games are coded in a ****ty way using unecessary resources and the fact you cant even chose render resolution ingame is ridicolous. A game like Prey for PC would be perfectly doable on the SD800 at 1080 yet no Android game even comes close to such visuals.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Im a gamer that often ends up putting a device thru the acid test via extended gaming.
The heat generated in the Z1 is not good and could easily damage the hardware over time.
Now this concerns me as a device that can run games should not just be able to do this for demo purposes alone... Thats cheating. Sacrificing stability and device life expectancy for a mere chart topping benchmark score or to merely capture the eye of a consumer. Thats cheating and not a welcome trait.
Losing my respect for sony again.
The fact that the psvita was canned so early too.
It's not funny. Nova 3, neon shadow, all use unity.
Doom3 using Diii4A for example is nearly the same engine used for prey and the game runs flawlessly on the sd800 but the heat... Even when lowering the quality brutally the throttle on the cpu is too high. Nova 3 sadly has no quality settings so the 1080p resolution brings brutal overheating.
OmegaRED^ said:
Im a gamer that often ends up putting a device thru the acid test via extended gaming.
The heat generated in the Z1 is not good and could easily damage the hardware over time.
Now this concerns me as a device that can run games should not just be able to do this for demo purposes alone... Thats cheating. Sacrificing stability and device life expectancy for a mere chart topping benchmark score or to merely capture the eye of a consumer. Thats cheating and not a welcome trait.
Losing my respect for sony again.
The fact that the psvita was canned so early too.
It's not funny. Nova 3, neon shadow, all use unity.
Doom3 using Diii4A for example is nearly the same engine used for prey and the game runs flawlessly on the sd800 but the heat... Even when lowering the quality brutally the throttle on the cpu is too high. Nova 3 sadly has no quality settings so the 1080p resolution brings brutal overheating.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well pretty much all brands have phones that throttle early even the Iphone. If anything Sony phones are those that take the longest time to throttle due to relatively good design, aluminium besel and rigid 'heatsink' plate. Though it varies depending on SoC.