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I'm a little curious...

Hi guys,
I'm just a little curious. I've been lurking over the Xperia for a very long time now (ever since it was announced). I've read that people are having cracks all over the phone, even from people who have had the phones for as long as 3 months.
Why do people still purchase the phone knowing that the problem exists? Why blindly fork over so much money?
Oh, and by no means am I a trying to start a war or anything, I'm just curious. I've really been wanting to get this phone for such a long time now, and I'm really rather disappointed that Xperia's build quality is just crap.
What are your thoughts?
Cheers.

dude, there is a thread started by me.
In tat i say taht i threw my phone in a fit of rage, and it bounced off the floor, and hit two walls before falling down again. and alas, the slider is loose, but i can get it fixed. Other than that, no cracks, no broken lcd, no nothing.
And by the way, mine is a 08w44, this is the production batch everyone's having trouble with. So if my phone can come out with flying colours outta the torture i put it thro, i would say the build quality is good overall.

well it depends on what "crap" for you means, for your standards for a phone. But generally I would say people look these into a phone but not limited to:
1. Feature
2. Design
3. Advantages
4. Price
as for me I bought the phone not knowing the crack until 2 days that the phone is already with me and I'm looking at this forum for apps and custom stuff. You may consider things that Xperia can upset you but by far, its still the king of the hill.
with a few disappointments though, I still love the phone, and starting to hate the service.

The ones having problems with the phone are the ones that complain.
That's normal.
The ones without problems have no need not complain.
So don't think that a thread where all the cracks unite is representative for the whole series. Even a fraction of users have these cracks. Of course, that's still too many, but there is no need to be afraid of buying this phone because of this issue. The chance to get of a faulty one is very low.

Only a couple of production batches were affected with this issue
I've had 3 xperias sofar and none of them had cracks
What's more: IMHO, even a cracked xperia would be better than an Iphone or anything else out there

gtrab said:
Only a couple of production batches were affected with this issue
I've had 3 xperias sofar and none of them had cracks
What's more: IMHO, even a cracked xperia would be better than an Iphone or anything else out there
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A cracked xperia X1 is a far better option than a cracked iphone 3g... (every batch of them seems to crack, same as their mac books)

Guys,
Thank you for your replies so far. I apologize, I guess I was wrong to be quick about assuming that a lot of Xperias have these problems. I still wish to get this phone, and have been bidding my time, hoping that the quality control will get better over time (perhaps HTC will change the materials or something).
Right now, I was wondering, are the cracks specific to colors (Black vs Silver)? Or are there issues on both colors anyway?
Also, which product batches are affected by this issue?
The problem is, if I purchase a gray market phone, say, from Amazon or something, and there is no warranty on it, and I do get a crack, how can I go about repairing the chasis?
Cheers.

Looking at the crack thread, it would seem that cracks were more common in the silver models.

throw mine on the floor yesterday and some1 accidently stepped on it. looks as new as when i bought it. and no problem at all.

Well
Looking at the cracks and their positioning it seems to me that the cracks seems to be due to a weak point in the design and some people just manage to break them. The one near the stylus I'm guessing happens because people are pulling it out at an angle and putting stress on the body, instead of taking it easy.
The one inside, by battery seems to be that theyre getting a "bending" force applied to them, back pockets anyone? sitting on them? Anyway, had mine a week, seems ok, dropped it a few times,no problems, got a crystal case on it now too for Xtra protection.
Will see how it goes after a while, but to be honest, if it does crack etc, i'm sure the provider would have to replace it?

Guys,
Well, if I buy it from Amazon, it comes with no warranty and it is an unlocked phone.
I also disagree that the price of X1a is the same as X1i. The reduced video capabilities should have affected X1a's pricing (which is why I am not even considering SonyStyleUSA).
Cheers.

gtrab said:
Only a couple of production batches were affected with this issue
I've had 3 xperias sofar and none of them had cracks
What's more: IMHO, even a cracked xperia would be better than an Iphone or anything else out there
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Whoa, I'd love to have one of your phone. Though without the crack in my case, I still liked my phone. By the way, since you got three phone I was wondering, when I borrowed my cousin's black Xperia, the arc slider seem just a little oo shaky compared to mine, hers rebounds a bit when sliding in and out. mine doesn't .Don't you notice any differences in your X1s?

PoisonWolf said:
Guys,
Well, if I buy it from Amazon, it comes with no warranty and it is an unlocked phone.
I also disagree that the price of X1a is the same as X1i. The reduced video capabilities should have affected X1a's pricing (which is why I am not even considering SonyStyleUSA).
Cheers.
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I don't know the laws in your country, but as far as I know, when you buy a new phone you always have warranty from the manufacturer as long as you have an invoice (bill?) for it.
Of course, you will have no provider where you can go, but sonyericsson itself has to be responsible.

Build quality of this phone

Hello,
so as a user of Xperia Z2 I have my rights to complain. This phone is nothing but amazing when it comes to functionality but sucks at build quality. My phone has a gaps around the frame of the display. At top right there is a small gap, on bottom left and on the left of the phone. These places, especially the gap in left side of display, collect dust and other trash. Also the USB flap is popping off all the time dispite having been cleaned and replaced by polish warranty service, propably because the phone's frame has a little arch in there. Also back of the phone had a bit of a move. It has been replaced by afore mentioned service and it does not sqeak anymore when pressed but the top of frame of the phone has been scratched in the process.
So my experience with service has been quite bad. They did replace back and USB flap(so they say but taking into the account it has had dust on silicon seal when I received it I am not so sure) but it left a scar on the phone. So the flap is popping off anyway, making phone not waterproof and annoying.
Now I would like to point out that I use magnetic charger so the port has not been opened too many times actually. Also sending the phone off for repair is not an option now because it will take them another 3 weeks time to repair it.
To be honest I wrote this to scare off some potential Sony buyers because build quality simply is not too good or at least make them check their new phones thoroughly and return if they are flawed.

HugePotato said:
Hello,
so as a user of Xperia Z2 I have my rights to complain. This phone is nothing but amazing when it comes to functionality but sucks at build quality. My phone has a gaps around the frame of the display. At top right there is a small gap, on bottom left and on the left of the phone. These places, especially the gap in left side of display, collect dust and other trash. Also the USB flap is popping off all the time dispite having been cleaned and replaced by polish warranty service, propably because the phone's frame has a little arch in there. Also back of the phone had a bit of a move. It has been replaced by afore mentioned service and it does not sqeak anymore when pressed but the top of frame of the phone has been scratched in the process.
So my experience with service has been quite bad. They did replace back and USB flap(so they say but taking into the account it has had dust on silicon seal when I received it I am not so sure) but it left a scar on the phone. So the flap is popping off anyway, making phone not waterproof and annoying.
Now I would like to point out that I use magnetic charger so the port has not been opened too many times actually. Also sending the phone off for repair is not an option now because it will take them another 3 weeks time to repair it.
To be honest I wrote this to scare off some potential Sony buyers because build quality simply is not too good or at least make them check their new phones thoroughly and return if they are flawed.
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Sorry for this bro
My xperia z2 i buy in Brazil,is perfectly build,no gaps no flaps coming out,i buy in pré order,i might be Lucky,ask for a total replacement if you have warranty, it might help

Got no buildproblems with my z2 that was bought back in September, but there could be some z2 with build quality issues as indicated by the op

you could post your problem here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2744197 + telling your batch number. If people from the service made any damage to your phone you have to complain about it and ask for a new device since it was not your fault... its kinda late now i guess.

I myself have always used Samsung phone in the past until this year when I got the Z2 after many hours reading and watching reviews. Never once did a read or watch a bad review regarding the build quality of the Z2.
For me, the Z2 totally outshines my previous Samsung phones on the build quality site of things. It totally feels like a premium device to me.

I have similar issues as well. Flaps pop out repeatedly after cleaning and replacement. Had gaps in phone, which caused water damage...
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Plain Water said:
I have similar issues as well. Flaps pop out repeatedly after cleaning and replacement. Had gaps in phone, which caused water damage...
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One of the reasons that gaps open itself (if they are clear with no dust in it) is the pressure in the phone that is coused in situations for example like in your pocket and you run/bend.Thats why when you drop it to the ground the flaps are opening to release the pressure.The water test which is provided in the menu of the Z2 have the same way of working as well - pressure determinate that if the phone is sealed and ready for a swim when you bend it abit. :highfive:

my Z2 has gaps in the corners on both front and back side
can it be waterproof with the gaps?

HugePotato said:
Hello,
so as a user of Xperia Z2 I have my rights to complain. This phone is nothing but amazing when it comes to functionality but sucks at build quality. My phone has a gaps around the frame of the display. At top right there is a small gap, on bottom left and on the left of the phone. These places, especially the gap in left side of display, collect dust and other trash. Also the USB flap is popping off all the time dispite having been cleaned and replaced by polish warranty service, propably because the phone's frame has a little arch in there. Also back of the phone had a bit of a move. It has been replaced by afore mentioned service and it does not sqeak anymore when pressed but the top of frame of the phone has been scratched in the process.
So my experience with service has been quite bad. They did replace back and USB flap(so they say but taking into the account it has had dust on silicon seal when I received it I am not so sure) but it left a scar on the phone. So the flap is popping off anyway, making phone not waterproof and annoying.
Now I would like to point out that I use magnetic charger so the port has not been opened too many times actually. Also sending the phone off for repair is not an option now because it will take them another 3 weeks time to repair it.
To be honest I wrote this to scare off some potential Sony buyers because build quality simply is not too good or at least make them check their new phones thoroughly and return if they are flawed.
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You just describe exactly what is happening with mine. Just the same issues.

Quite sad that Sony can't give you a well built phone for this price...To be honest after having Desire 816 for 3 weeks in the meantime as Sony was being serviced I started regretting that I didn't buy M8. It would be **** specwise compared to Sony but the build quality is just marvelous...Or wait for Z3. I think I could call myself Sony fan some time ago but now I am not so sure. Will have Z2 in mind when buying next phone in 1.5 year time.

Not trying to offend anyone but I believe that a great bunch of us XDA members are extremely anal about our devices.
Every device I've owned has had people complaining about the most minor of issues that no regular users ever hear of.
"MY PHONES CAMERA IS 0.01MM AWAY FROM BEING CENTRED, IS SONY FOR REAL, HOW COULD THEY DO THIS, BLAH BLAH"
I bought my Z2 being incredibly happy with the build quality and i still am.The metal/glass body is exceptional in terms of build quality. Compared to the plasticy build of the G3/other devices, our phone is amazing.
The issue is more of a quality control issue but the thing is that the "issues" we have are so very minor. The gaps form no actual issue, same with off centred camera (that i know of), the flaps popping off is an actual issue but i dont personally know anyone who has had this happen to them, only a few xda users. (Probably due to the constant opening for flashing purposes/other purposes)
Sending it back should fix it, and if it doesnt then send it back again.
Also, all phones have issues. Look on any other phone forum. Our phone is actually better off when compared to others in terms of quality control.

hi guys i want to buy this phone soon and i just wanted to check if the build quality issues i read about are real or not
1) do the flaps really pop up on their own? and if yes what has caused them to do so?is it a manufacturing error?
2) i read about some camera issues with not starting from lockscreen
3) some devices has reported that because of the size of the phone the device has suffered from cracks and niggles caused by the pressure while in pockets?
and please if u can give me your overall experience with the phone and should i buy it or not
p.s : i'm coming fro htc one m7 but the m8 is too expensive and i want to try sony now
thanks in advance to all

super-user2.3 said:
hi guys i want to buy this phone soon and i just wanted to check if the build quality issues i read about are real or not
1) do the flaps really pop up on their own? and if yes what has caused them to do so?is it a manufacturing error?
2) i read about some camera issues with not starting from lockscreen
3) some devices has reported that because of the size of the phone the device has suffered from cracks and niggles caused by the pressure while in pockets?
and please if u can give me your overall experience with the phone and should i buy it or not
p.s : i'm coming fro htc one m7 but the m8 is too expensive and i want to try sony now
thanks in advance to all
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1. Not for me, most problems are there with early batches which are harder to comeby now
2. Camera seems to launch fine from lockscreen although a rather large delay
3. The self cracking issue i cant realy tell, my device undergoes my fat behind sitting on it also being extremly hot to cold, i left it in my freezer one time at -30 celcius for a hr and its fine
alb3rtt said:
"MY PHONES CAMERA IS 0.01MM AWAY FROM BEING CENTRED, IS SONY FOR REAL, HOW COULD THEY DO THIS, BLAH BLAH"
terms of quality control.
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I agree with some of these issues arent realy issues
Ive had 4 Z2 replacements and i only had them replaced due to serious heating issues, large quantities of dead pixels and one if not both speakers being dead
Im happy with my off centre Camera and my dim led light and my single dead pixel
So Dear other users
If it doesnt affect your handling of the device its best to forget about it.

super-user2.3 said:
hi guys i want to buy this phone soon and i just wanted to check if the build quality issues i read about are real or not
1) do the flaps really pop up on their own? and if yes what has caused them to do so?is it a manufacturing error?
2) i read about some camera issues with not starting from lockscreen
3) some devices has reported that because of the size of the phone the device has suffered from cracks and niggles caused by the pressure while in pockets?
and please if u can give me your overall experience with the phone and should i buy it or not
p.s : i'm coming fro htc one m7 but the m8 is too expensive and i want to try sony now
thanks in advance to all
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1. Not for me. Probably extreme use/excessive opening.
2. Nope. Perfect here.
3. Well i personally havent had this happen. I have dropped my phone onto concrete without a case while running from my pockets and its still perfect with literally only 1 small not noticble mark on the corner so i doubt itll crack from pressure in your pocket.
Go for the z2. Its a great phone imho.
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Envious_Data said:
I agree with some of these issues arent realy issues
Ive had 4 Z2 replacements and i only had them replaced due to serious heating issues, large quantities of dead pixels and one if not both speakers being dead
Im happy with my off centre Camera and my dim led light and my single dead pixel
So Dear other users
If it doesnt affect your handling of the device its best to forget about it.
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4 Z2's?!?!? Holy sheet metal. Wow you are very unlucky. I personally have a 100% perfect no issues at all z2. If your current phone has issues, just keep returning it. I had 3 nexus 5's, all with various actual issues before i got a perfect one... then i water damaged it. Lmao

build quality issues can affect waterproofing?

maddboss said:
build quality issues can affect waterproofing?
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headphone port, gaps and speaker grill problems can potentially hurt the devices water resistance ability

alb3rtt said:
The gaps form no actual issue, same with off centred camera (that i know of), the flaps popping off is an actual issue but i dont personally know anyone who has had this happen to them, only a few xda users. (Probably due to the constant opening for flashing purposes/other purposes)
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Envious_Data said:
I agree with some of these issues arent realy issues
Ive had 4 Z2 replacements and i only had them replaced due to serious heating issues, large quantities of dead pixels and one if not both speakers being dead
Im happy with my off centre Camera and my dim led light and my single dead pixel
So Dear other users
If it doesnt affect your handling of the device its best to forget about it.
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so you're sayin that gaps can't affect waterproofing?

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so you're sayin that gaps can't affect waterproofing?
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Well the gaps and headphone port issues im not too sure realy.

Envious_Data said:
Well the gaps and headphone port issues im not too sure realy.
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anyway I'll try it sometime but I'm a bit scared about the gaps

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so you're sayin that gaps can't affect waterproofing?
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They dont. If you want to make sure that it is waterproof, go on the test if waterproof without water thread.

Good-bye Z3C, good-bye Sony

Previously, I had an LG G2 on Verizon but wanted to leave for a different carrier, so last December I purchased through eBay a Sony Xperia Z3 Compact D5803. Initially, I was quite impressed. I really liked the LG G2 for its battery life, but the Sony Z3 Compact blew that away. And the Z3C performed a bit better, too. And I also liked that the Z3C was a bit smaller.
Then came the Lollipop update.
My battery life fell by at least 1/3 and the (non-reversible without root) update killed my NFC. And magnetic charging only works up to about 85% whether the phone is on or off. Sony is giving me a runaround, telling me to call them to ensure that my phone is under warranty. If it is, they want me to send in the phone for an evaluation that will take at least 14 days. And if a warranty repair is in order, Sony will have my phone even longer.
I pointed out to them the great inconvenience of this process, which would force me to purchase a different phone in the interim. I assured them that if this was the route I chose that I certainly wouldn't be purchasing another Sony device. So today I ordered through eBay a brand-new LG G2. It looks like I'll try sending the Z3C in. Whether they fix it or not, I will be selling the Z3C.
Thus will end my last foray into owning a Sony phone.

liteon163 said:
Previously, I had an LG G2 on Verizon but wanted to leave for a different carrier, so last December I purchased through eBay a Sony Xperia Z3 Compact D5803. Initially, I was quite impressed. I really liked the LG G2 for its battery life, but the Sony Z3 Compact blew that away. And the Z3C performed a bit better, too. And I also liked that the Z3C was a bit smaller.
Then came the Lollipop update.
My battery life fell by at least 1/3 and the (non-reversible without root) update killed my NFC. And magnetic charging only works up to about 85% whether the phone is on or off. Sony is giving me a runaround, telling me to call them to ensure that my phone is under warranty. If it is, they want me to send in the phone for an evaluation that will take at least 14 days. And if a warranty repair is in order, Sony will have my phone even longer.
I pointed out to them the great inconvenience of this process, which would force me to purchase a different phone in the interim. I assured them that if this was the route I chose that I certainly wouldn't be purchasing another Sony device. So today I ordered through eBay a brand-new LG G2. It looks like I'll try sending the Z3C in. Whether they fix it or not, I will be selling the Z3C.
Thus will end my last foray into owning a Sony phone.
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Did you do a factory reset?
Anyway you could roll back to KitKat through Flashtool and wait for a better Lollipop version to come (without making any root and without losing any warranty).

Don't use Stamina mode or data queuing on Lollipop. Burns battery for some reason. Lollipop battery life is better with it off than kit kat on.

I've done numerous factory resets. But I haven't tried turning off data queuing. I'll give it a shot to see what happens. Thanks.
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At least show some details on the battery life yr having
And the repair process takes two weeks at least

Sorry for the newbie question, but how does one turn off data queuing?

heywheelie said:
Sorry for the newbie question, but how does one turn off data queuing?
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Here I guess
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I had a bug with exchange which checked mail every 3s (first position in battery usage). Had to delete the account and reconfigure, working now.

Well, most of your points are your major defects.
Why display is the worst? It's pretty decent imo and you can play with white balance for even better results.
I'm using KK since I got the phone ( October last year) even tho I have OTA update for Lollipop. No glass problems, no batter drain, NFC, wifi, speakers issues.
I got it for a good price on contract and yesterday I've unlocked it.
All I wanted was a newer phone with good battery life and good performance. I got that so I'm happy.

liteon163 said:
Previously, I had an LG G2 on Verizon but wanted to leave for a different carrier, so last December I purchased through eBay a Sony Xperia Z3 Compact D5803. Initially, I was quite impressed. I really liked the LG G2 for its battery life, but the Sony Z3 Compact blew that away. And the Z3C performed a bit better, too. And I also liked that the Z3C was a bit smaller.
Then came the Lollipop update.
My battery life fell by at least 1/3 and the (non-reversible without root) update killed my NFC. And magnetic charging only works up to about 85% whether the phone is on or off. Sony is giving me a runaround, telling me to call them to ensure that my phone is under warranty. If it is, they want me to send in the phone for an evaluation that will take at least 14 days. And if a warranty repair is in order, Sony will have my phone even longer.
I pointed out to them the great inconvenience of this process, which would force me to purchase a different phone in the interim. I assured them that if this was the route I chose that I certainly wouldn't be purchasing another Sony device. So today I ordered through eBay a brand-new LG G2. It looks like I'll try sending the Z3C in. Whether they fix it or not, I will be selling the Z3C.
Thus will end my last foray into owning a Sony phone.
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You could of just flashed stock kitkat using flashtool (no root required) then just reject the update to lollipop when it comes up..
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Why is this thread still open? I've been on xda for quite some time and threads exactly like this one saying goodbye and bashing that bring nothing valuable to pple who own the phone were closed. Ok ur not happy. We got it. Move along now.

don_gabrielli said:
Why is this thread still open? I've been on xda for quite some time and threads exactly like this one saying goodbye and bashing that bring nothing valuable to pple who own the phone were closed. Ok ur not happy. We got it. Move along now.
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Exactly

Woah dude so much hate... Most people go for the z3 compact because of the screen size and/or battery life. In both categories it's basically unbeaten. There is no perfect device out there period. But the z3c has everything I need. If it does not suit your needs then go ahead and sell it. But it is definitely not a bad device.
Btw I'm still on KK, .0 versions tend to have problems in most cases (even ios..)

There are literally NO perfect phones. Each has its own flaws. Just buy one with the necessary features that you want and adapt with it.

Well as a previous poster noted, Sony must use different manufacturers to make the Z3C. I make that statement because it seems noone here suffers from the dreaded "sudden death" syndrome that plagues some ZC3 phones. Mine being one of them. Worked brilliantly for 6 weeks then one morning it just died. Nothing would bring it back to life. Spent 4 hours on the phone to Sony tech support here in Oz trying everything in the guys bag of tricks but nothing worked. In the end the guy said "it's faulty, return it to where you bought it". I did that, they replaced the motherboard and returned it. Worked great for 2 weeks then "sudden death" struck again. Contacted the seller who told me to send it back to the repairer. After a week I contacted the repairer to learn that there are replacing the battery and the motherboard (again). If after testing it again shows it is fixed and return it to me, I'll just toss it in the bottom draw unless my kids want it. I can't afford to have a phone that just dies with no warning.
BTW my Z3C was a Singtel Singapore phone.
If you haven't heard of the sudden death bug then just google it. Numerous users suffer from it but strangely none on this forum.
Great phone when it works. Crap when it doesn't.

You do realize you don't need root to flash the kitkat .ftf firmware available on this very website?

I have similar sentiments about the phone. My main issues are the fragility and screen quality. Out of the box the screen is very blue. And no matter what I do with the white balance it's not possible to get rid of the greyish whites. Viewing angles are great by Sony standards, but so so compared to other phones. It's a shame because I prefer lcd's over amoled screens, but this one isn't great.
The phone itself is a nice size, but the square shape diminishes the usability. And the fact that it's so fragile and slippery necessitates a case which then completely ruins the form factor. The build quality really isn't great either imo. It looks nice and the materials are decent but the phone feels hollow and unsubstantial. Contrast that to a 2013 Moto X. It's all plastic and composite materials but it's incredibly solid and has an ergonimic and grippy back.
The camera is so so in all except the best conditions.
What's then left is the Sony UI (which I think is great, but many don't) and battery life. My greatest wish for future iterations of this device is for it to be durable.

heywheelie said:
If you haven't heard of the sudden death bug then just google it. Numerous users suffer from it but strangely none on this forum.
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What seems like "numerous people" to you is likely a negliably small minority, statistically.

degraaff said:
What seems like "numerous people" to you is likely a negliably small minority, statistically.
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Exactly, imagine if people who don't have issues start threads like "I don't have a broken screen" or "my photos actually turn out pretty ok" or "my phone is waterproof", you wouldn't even see the ones with issues anymore, if you want to talk numbers you have to consider all z3c users, not only the ones that complain on forums. As somebody said before, the z3c isn't perfect, but then again, no phone is.

vinuneuro said:
The build quality really isn't great either imo. It looks nice and the materials are decent but the phone feels hollow and unsubstantial. Contrast that to a 2013 Moto X. It's all plastic and composite materials but it's incredibly solid and has an ergonimic and grippy back.
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To me my z3c feels like a solid slab, not hollow at all. It's definitely much more solid than any previous Sony(Ericsson) phone I've had, which always developed creaky and clicky sounds after a while.

U will NEVER SETTLE with this piece of crap

after disappointing from Panasonic non branded phone my self thought to buy something branded and well customer service handset
but I had taken one chance once again with this peace of crap OPO and now feel really bad want to remove one plus logo from my signature
main reason to buy this that it has great support of Xda developers and its really feels me really proud to be part of this community where I got lots of software improvement over my OPO which makes this phone extremely good in case of software improvement
but one time by my self done a big mistake that I corrupted my efs partition that time I went to service Center 300 km away from my home which cost me 1500 as travelling and residential charges
but this time they serviced well without any cost and served in 1 day
that time I feel blessed thought after this there will no more frustration
but yesterday i was working all day and my OPO was in pocket
when I came to home surfed my OPO for 2 hr and some calling after that when I put my OPO beside in bed and I am busy in my work as per my habit I took my OPO and tried to unlock but screen not worked(thought it was started ghost touches as many users reported)
I rebooted it back and dine the same thing but no luck
then I look closer to it's screen there is small crack on screens uppermost part
but how this happened previously my self used galaxy s advance ,Nokia c6 which has gorilla glass and never happened like this
not even this my micromax android one was thrown by my baby many times but it has scratches on back but not a single problem with screen
my **** Panasonic eluga u has many software problems but not a single screen problem as I dropped many times
so I am aware of many users problem regarding screen crack
do I am precisely handling it like baby but what the price of crap this is
I called customer service they told me now it has physical damaged then it does not have any warranty
u have to pay 7000 rs for screen replacement ( here I got some blessing that on net I searched and most of peoples paid 12000 for this)
This phone cost me 22000 7000 1500(travelling to service)=30500
in this price some one will get high end phone of branded company
but what the output of 1 1
>extremely low quality of hardware ( so they managed to drop its price)
screen cracking
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...cracked.208950/?_e_pi_=7,PAGE_ID10,2992517759
burning of USB point
blast of OPO
https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/co...ted_last_night/?_e_pi_=7,PAGE_ID10,2969382357
no charging
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...t-issue.311913/?_e_pi_=7,PAGE_ID10,3811756863
>several software issues faced by many other users and this phone is survived only because of xda
yellow tint
ghost touches
sudden death
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...lus-one.192975/?_e_pi_=7,PAGE_ID10,2452099009
some one will think I don't handled this phone properly
but real fact is that I am known of all issues regarding this phone and handling it very carefully but dropped previously from very low height ( where my third class micromax and panasonic phone dropped lots of time from high hight and working wrll till now) 1or 2 times but it survived with lots of scratches on plastic frame of gorilla glass.
conclusion:
there slogan is real NEVER SETTLE after purchasing this phone u will never settle forever and u will have to add more mony time to time means 1plus 1 and u gain 0
there strategy of marketing is like this
sell defective pices at low price
use low quality hardware material( scratch resistance gortila glass what a joke which cracks automatically) so more damage more money
this is Chinese company and its a real China toy with fake promises of never settle and satisfaction
so Indian users my request from heart not to buy this and go to branded products having good customerservice so though problem will raise u will not regreat

1. Efs backup you should have done (saw your previous thread on that issue)
2. Gorilla glass like any glass is not meant to stop cracks. I don't care what they say or advertised Its glass come on now.
Sorry for your luck but if your letting your baby throw devices around then this was bound to happen

So you unlocked your own bootloader and flashed stuff without taking backups before beginning. OnePlus kindly repaired this for you from the sound of it, which was nice considering it was your fault for not taking backups.
Then you dropped your phone and cracked the screen, rightly they won't repair it for you without you paying. Sounds sensible to me.
Any phone dropped can and will break, sometimes people are lucky with how they fall sometimes not. All phones break if dropped from a small height if they land just wrong. Doesn't matter what the glass is it breaks.
As for all the other "issues" that you have managed to find, if you search for any phone you will find a similar list of issues around and about for them, sometimes things go wrong.
If your phone had all of those issues that you have listed then they would have repaired it for you.
Can't say that I (and the majority of others) have ever had any of those issues.

indesisiv said:
So you unlocked your own bootloader and flashed stuff without taking backups before beginning. OnePlus kindly repaired this for you from the sound of it, which was nice considering it was your fault for not taking backups.
Then you dropped your phone and cracked the screen, rightly they won't repair it for you without you paying. Sounds sensible to me.
Any phone dropped can and will break, sometimes people are lucky with how they fall sometimes not. All phones break if dropped from a small height if they land just wrong. Doesn't matter what the glass is it breaks.
As for all the other "issues" that you have managed to find, if you search for any phone you will find a similar list of issues around and about for them, sometimes things go wrong.
If your phone had all of those issues that you have listed then they would have repaired it for you.
Can't say that I (and the majority of others) have ever had any of those issues.
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all I want to say that this phone has very bad quality of hardware that I don't understand how its glass got broken I even not fall it down( previously when I dropped that happened 1 month before this)
I just kept all day in my pocket
at night near about 8pm I used it that time it seems okno problem at all but suddenly when I took it in hand and it seems not working and screen got broken( its not thrown by my baby )

903tex said:
1. Efs backup you should have done (saw your previous thread on that issue)
2. Gorilla glass like any glass is not meant to stop cracks. I don't care what they say or advertised Its glass come on now.
Sorry for your luck but if your letting your baby throw devices around then this was bound to happen
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its not thrown by my baby and I doesn't dropped by myself any more( 2 time I dropped it down was 1 month ago and there was no single problem)
every one feels irritation when their handsets got in problems when they does nothing wrong with it( previous efs problem was mine and I apolize for it but this was not mine)

I don't see how you cracked your screen without drop or when it was in your pocket you bump up against something hard or bending a certain way etc......
But either way sorry for your bad luck

Since we already have a thread for reviews linked below, this thread is closed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2685348

i srewed up pretty good, follow my advice

so,yesterday i swapped my LG g3 for an Xperia Z3 +65€. My G3 was in mint condition, with screen protector from the first day and case. Never broken. The guy also said that his z3 was also in perfect condition. I wanted to change cuz my mom has a z1 and it's a great phone, i like sony's phones, and the battery is great, while on g3 is awful, and the screen on g3 is also awful if you ask me. The guy was working and he sent his girlfriend to come and swap phones with me. She said she was in a major hurry and she will be late for her trip and we need to do this fast. She handed me the original box and there was everything inside, and the phone, and immediately took my phone and started examining it. Everything was okay, and i examined the z3 and at the first look, everything was alright too. No scratches, the ui was smooth and no cracks/chunks at the sides. I immediately fell in love because the phone just feels great in hand and the screen is beautiful. As she was in a hurry, i gave her the money, we shook hands and she was on her way. All of this lasted like 3-4 minutes. Then i tried to put my sim card in, and it has nano sim, so i immediately went to the mall and t- mobile center to get my sim. While i was waiting for my turn, i accidentaly opened the camera, and whoa- water spots. Awesome. I call the guy, but no answers. Great. Immediately dissapointed by myself, but oh well, i never use the camera anyway. Then i go to my gf's place, wanna watch some youtube, try to turn the volume up, and guess what? vol up button also not working. great. Run the diagnostics, and light sensor also fails. And on top of that, the back panel is loose a little bit on the bottom. great. And all of this because i was stupid and didn't look closely.
And on top of all this, i have the version that cant have it's bootloader unlocked.
When you swap phones, examine the every last bit of it.
But i seriously love this phone, i'm just afraid i'll break it.

damn, ouch. sorry to hear that.
i'm also one of the "screwed" ones, but it was actually my own fault.
last month on my 4 week thailand holiday, in the first week my phone fell down and the glas broke.
display and everything still worked, but the touchscreen broke and i couldn't use the phone anymore.
since i wanted to use it as a camera on my vacation, i had to replace the display FAST,
but the next sony support center was 450km away in bangkok. there was another repair
shop that did some awesome work before (i checked their website, facebook, ratings, etc.)
so i decided to give them a try.
the display he ordered even came from sony itself (i have seen the package arriving the next day)
and the display is definitely genius and everything is working perfectly again, but there's one
bitter aftertaste with it: i have definitely lost waterproofing (checked through pressure sensor)
and i can see a small bit of light coming through the display and the case on the right side.
i wouldn't blame that service center for it, because if i wanted waterproofing again, i should
surely have sent it to sony instead.
actually i am thinking about if i should open the phone myself and replace the glue stickers
to attach the display. but i am scared a bit that i break more. everything's working perfectly,
and i think, as long as i don't submerge it into water, it should be fine.

Sorry to hear that man...
I have two Z3 phones and love them.
Better luck next time, I have been screwed ttoo, but now I only buy from new

That's not good.
Someone I know had a similiar 'I'm in a hurry' experience..
Turned out the phone had almost literally fallen off the back of a lorry . . . a delivery lorry, and was subsequently barred from all networks by the carrier
As for the waterproofing on the other phone, well, you could completely strip it and rebuild it with new seals, but there's still no guarantee it would be as waterproof as it was when new. They're not hard to get apart, just a bit of heat, and a being careful, and slowly does it. Watch a few dissassembly videos on YouTube (as guides only) and see if you feel capable of doing it. One word of advice, be very careful when disconnecting the ribbon cables as the sockets on the circuit boards are easily damaged.

MickieH said:
That's not good.
Someone I know had a similiar 'I'm in a hurry' experience..
Turned out the phone had almost literally fallen off the back of a lorry . . . a delivery lorry, and was subsequently barred from all networks by the carrier
As for the waterproofing on the other phone, well, you could completely strip it and rebuild it with new seals, but there's still no guarantee it would be as waterproof as it was when new. They're not hard to get apart, just a bit of heat, and a being careful, and slowly does it. Watch a few dissassembly videos on YouTube (as guides only) and see if you feel capable of doing it. One word of advice, be very careful when disconnecting the ribbon cables as the sockets on the circuit boards are easily damaged.
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I have many experience with dissasembling/reassembling phones and changing parts, i've changed so much faulty hardware on various phones that i could easly work in an IT store . It's okay, the light sensor works, i had the phone checked out, turns out they will change my buttons and camera+seal it for small amount of money. I'm overall satisfied. Only thing i'm not satisfied with is the damn bootloader, i don't think i can live with it man. My device history is pretty big, and never i ever had a phone that didn't run a custom ROM or at least a custom Kernel on it. And now this. This is just soul crushing for me. I installed the Marshmallow concept today, and while it's pretty good and AOSP(ish), the thought of at least not having root and installing AT LEAST layers on it is killing me slowly. And just to think i swapped the phone mainly because of the battery and because of jerpelea and his aosp contribuitons and kernel contributions i really like.. Damn. Im seriously gonna cry now.
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DeHuMaNiZeD said:
I have many experience with dissasembling/reassembling phones and changing parts, i've changed so much faulty hardware on various phones that i could easly work in an IT store . It's okay, the light sensor works, i had the phone checked out, turns out they will change my buttons and camera+seal it for small amount of money. I'm overall satisfied. Only thing i'm not satisfied with is the damn bootloader, i don't think i can live with it man. My device history is pretty big, and never i ever had a phone that didn't run a custom ROM or at least a custom Kernel on it. And now this. This is just soul crushing for me. I installed the Marshmallow concept today, and while it's pretty good and AOSP(ish), the thought of at least not having root and installing AT LEAST layers on it is killing me slowly. And just to think i swapped the phone mainly because of the battery and because of jerpelea and his aosp contribuitons and kernel contributions i really like.. Damn. Im seriously gonna cry now.
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Ah, so sorry to hear this story mate. I honestly HATE cheating bastards. I'm on the same boat with you regarding custom roms ,kernels and stuff. I know, we can unlock bootloader but it is NOT even close to be the same as with most other phones.(except Samsuck and their knox) . Maybe it hit me too hard since my last phone was nexus (and my next android phone will be nexus again). Was looking forward for AOSP and LAYERS to play with. Don't want to put extra salt on your wound,but shame we don't know each other , I would probably switch my mint condition Z3 to G3, just for change sake (and some custom ROM flashing sake), regardless of battery life of G3.
On the other hand, concept ROM rocks, I won't be getting back on L or stock Sony till it's M

When she said she were in a hurry you should've started to suspect that something was fishy. I would probably never by a used phone seeing how a lot of people treat their phones but if I did I'd certainly would back off if they tried to hurry me into buying/trading.

@DeHuMaNiZeD
I'm sorry for you too. But sometimes you can read from people mouth/face that something isnt okay...
Anyway if you remember their faces, you can talk with them and so on...

OP where did you get the contact info for the trade?
If it was in a page like Ebay,write a bad review and let us know his name, so we can spread out he's a cheater.
Sorry to hear that man...

Dandgqro said:
OP where did you get the contact info for the trade?
If it was in a page like Ebay,write a bad review and let us know his name, so we can spread out he's a cheater.
Sorry to hear that man...
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Nah, it's a croatian trading site, he didn't have an account. Anyways, i swapped my Z3 for an OPO, and i couldn't be happier. The best phone i owned. With my xperia being with locked bootloader, this phone is like a miracle for me.