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I wonder if there's any software to operate PocketPC as USB Stick available (like for Palm Tungsten T5 - Drive Mode)? So basically I would like to use PocketPC drives just as a USB Stick (without Activesync of course)
Thanks,
Georg
this cannot be done in software.
let me rehash this topic
Can anyone here kindly explain me why it aint possible to use PPC as USB MassStorageDevice? I know you need USB Host Controller chip to handle that stuff in hardware. Why cant we emulate its function in software? In the end its only sending signals to the pc?
How does the device upgrade process work then? you also have to transfer data to ppc rom here.
I know that it wont be easy to give a simple explanation, could anyone try it anyway?
thank you for your help!
regards,
Quappo
i think it would be possible to do in software
if it cant then it's because that it's hardcoded in the pda that when it interduce itself to the pc as a plug'n'play device it does so as a pda
if that cant be changed then you cant do it
I've found some interesting SW tools:
here: http://www.softick.com/pocket-pc/cardexport2/#compatibility
and here : http://www.deje.gmxhome.de/download.html
You mast pay for the first one :?
but the second (if you like) it's free !
Have a look !!
Carlo said:
I've found some interesting SW tools:
here: ...
and here : http://www.deje.gmxhome.de/download.html
... the second (if you like) it's free !
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You were misleaded. The named tool can be used on PDAs having USB host functionality to connect other hard drives. It won't let your PDA be recognized as a USB stick.
Yes - in general case you can do it.
It is possible to write software which allow to represent PPC with USB end-point hardware as USB Mass Storage device.
Question is - how?
It seems device will need to supply correct descriptors at USB enumeration process and device will have to correctly process appropriate comands from host device (PC or something else)
again - how?
It seems someone will need to write low level software to manage USB endpoint hardware in PPC. it may look like kernel mode driver.
What to need? - doc for USB endpoint device and ability to write driver to manage this hardware.
It isn't difficult - but every PPC will need own device driver.
Or if the USB dev has some interface to supply descriptors and process commands from host (internal - inside system, or app level) - it can be done at some level of abstraction.
Resume
- it is possible
- need to know details about device and USB interface in this PPC.
ryhor - soft stick export does it perfectly. Either use that, or reverse engineer it...
Very useful for non activesynced pcs: keep a copy of activesync install on your SD card, use softstick, install activesync from PPC "usb drive", then switch over to activesync and sync away.
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vijay555 said:
ryhor - soft stick export does it perfectly. Either use that, or reverse engineer it...
Very useful for non activesynced pcs: keep a copy of activesync install on your SD card, use softstick, install activesync from PPC "usb drive", then switch over to activesync and sync away.
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This seems very interesting. Can you tell me how the PPC shows on the Windows PC desktop? It has mostly two drives then, a possible SD card included.
Can you change the drive letter via local disk management?
Happen to know if it would work on Jasjar?
Huib
I've no idea how it works on WM5, you'll have to check their site: either way, I'm sure they're working on it.
How it works: you get a little icon in your tray (on Today screen). From there you can choose either to activesync or USB Drive when you connect your usb lead. You can choose which drive to use as a usb drive, ie storage or storage card. Only one at a time though.
Then, stick in your usb lead, and after a few seconds of recognising new hardware, it'll recognise the phone as a standard USB drive, ie a normal drive. I believe the drive letter can be changed in drive management.
I don't think it needs any drivers on >WinXP.
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I've no idea how it works on WM5, you'll have to check their site: either way, I'm sure they're working on it.
How it works: you get a little icon in your tray (on Today screen). From there you can choose either to activesync or USB Drive when you connect your usb lead. You can choose which drive to use as a usb drive, ie storage or storage card. Only one at a time though.
Then, stick in your usb lead, and after a few seconds of recognising new hardware, it'll recognise the phone as a standard USB drive, ie a normal drive. I believe the drive letter can be changed in drive management.
I don't think it needs any drivers on >WinXP.
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Thanks, I will defenitely buy this stuff when they make a Universal Version.
Huib
if it works on wm2005 then it works on universal too
Hi - ever since I used Internet Sharing the other day every time i plug my HD into my computer Active Sync (AS) doesn't recognize it.
When i plug in the phone in I get the touch flo menu and it asks if i want to use AS but nothing happens when i choose this - I've even reinstalled AS and XP has recognised the phone but not AS- anyone else had this problem?
Had this a few times with my other PDAs. In most cases it couldn't get a DHCP address from activesync.
Try this: while its connected, locate your device in Windows device manager (should be "Windows Mobile-base Device ...") and delete it. This does not affect partnerships. Disconnect and reconnect it, and Windows should recognize a new device with proper connection.
6Fg8 said:
Had this a few times with my other PDAs. In most cases it couldn't get a DHCP address from activesync.
Try this: while its connected, locate your device in Windows device manager (should be "Windows Mobile-base Device ...") and delete it. This does not affect partnerships. Disconnect and reconnect it, and Windows should recognize a new device with proper connection.
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Thanks for the advice however I can't find a Windows device in the Device Manager - i think you are on the right lines though - Windows is simply not recognising the device...
Would it perhaps be USB Mass Storage device?
Windows should recognize your phone, this is independent of activesync. If this does not work, activesync has no chance to connect to, and the reason must be somewhere else.
Check your USB ports. BTW you're not using a hub are you? If yes you should connect it directly to the PC. Check cables, and/or try another USB-device if you have one.
When you connect, you should be asked how the phone should represent to the pc, with options as activesync, harddisk, modem. Select activesync here. If you're not asked, check device settings in Start-settings-connections-usb2pc.
Have you tried blanking out the "enable advance network funcitonality" in USB to PC setting?
And - you are using the HTC supplied USB lead?
bog standard mini-USB cables don't cut it
Hello there, just got myself a new job and this place uses macs.
I want to tranfer som files from my phone to my workstation. But the Mac wont reconize my phone. I dont want to sync it, just transfer-
Anyone who can help with a driver for the mac or a app for the phone to make this possible?
ok, so you want to use a usb cable that connects the HD2 with the Mac? then you want to transfer files? fair enough...
first, you need to tell us which OS you are using. the HD2 "runs it all" so it is sort of understood with most HD2 forum members to specify the OS when asking a question or requesting assistance. other forum members can't really guess which OS you are using now can they?
so if you are running WM6.5, a popup should appear on the phone screen as soon as you hook up both ends of the usb cable. on the popup, choose "disk mode" and the Mac should make the HD2's sd card available as a usb drive.
if you are using Android, i'm not sure but things might get a bit complicated. i'm saying this because i use Android on my HD2 and i use a windows 7 desktop. when connected via usb (in disk mode), my HD2's sd card appears under "Android Phone" on my desktop. this seems to indicate that the usb disk mode in Android MIGHT require some special drivers on the desktop's side...which might not be available for OSX (after all, evil Apple might not want to make such drivers available that allow one to work with a non-Apple product that comes from bitter rival Google). but if you are running Android, you are probably using MAGLDR, so you could try the usb disk mode built in to MAGLDR and see if the Mac likes it. i hear clockworkmod (CWM) also has some sort of usb disk mode option?!?
if all else fails, you can always use a card reader (my favorite method because it is FAST). i have only used a Mac with OSX once for about 30mins in my entire life. and i had my sd card plugged into a card reader plugged into the Mac the whole time...so i know THAT worked 100%.
acer a500 is FLEXREAPER R10 4.0.22
pc is win7 64-bit professional. acer usb driver has installed on pc.
yet, when i connect pc and a500 with usb wire, i can't see anything shown on pc. no mobile equipment, no u-key, nothing.
could someone do me a favor to tell me how to solve.
w7
Try another USB port.
or
Try to install again the drivers
or
Try another computer...
cheers
...and USB debugging enabled
finding your tablet in win7
@ yypp:
Not sure what flavor of win 7 you're running or what your host machine is. BUT...
If you have windows 7 professional, and have a Intel Sandybridge style processor (like I3-2310, I5-whatever, I7-whatever...), you have available to you bluetooth and WiFi enable with the Intel My WiFi Tech.
Turn on your bluetooth and Wifi on your tablet...
Goto start; devices; ADD device. It will look for it. It will find it either as a bluetooth or a WiFi compatible device. Then add your tablet. Give it a snappy name, so on.
I had similar problem, yypp. However, once my laptop recognized my tablet via bluetooth, the USB debugger then acknowledged it already stored as that bluetooth device.
There are work-arounds available to you. The bonus of adding it as a WiFi device is you can then tether the two to your smartphone as well for a PAN.
Ciao.
Hello,
quite the same config (with a DELL T7500)
same problem.
I tried to add the Acer drivers.
but for a strange reason, to install the driver, I have to install windows media player 11.
which is not possible under seven 64 Bits !
result : the instllation cancel the install, without telling a clear error message on the screen.
Acer could have limit the software installed without WMP 11
but canceling the install of the drivers itself when there is not WMP11, is not really good.
anyway, the tablet should be visible from scratch under windows Seven.
it is a pity.
my iphone (my previous HTC desire HD) are recognised imediatly on this computer.
so bad.
on my side, I didn't found any solution.
Best regards,
Olivier
wauw.... what's all this bluetooth crap? solutions:
Your'e problem could have several causes. time to eliminate them:
Open up your windows start menu
enter "device manager" in your searchfield
(on other languages you could try: rightclick my computer, properties, and in the left pane there should be device manager).
now connect your iconia to your pc using the cable
1: if you see iconia tab with a white icon and an exclamtion mark in the list:
right-click it
in the first pane you should see the problem
in the second pane you can update drivers
if this is not working go to http://www.acer.nl/ac/nl/NL/content/drivers and download them again.
2: if you see your device popping up normaly (under media devices)
no problem... the problem consists with some part of your computer that needs the attention of a proffesional. go see your computer distributor
3: there's nothing in the list...
try connecting your tab using an other cable and try using the cable you have on another android device
Is your iconia showing info when you connect it? mine says debugging enabled and iconia sync.
you could ultimately try to plug your tab in to an other pc or boot up linux and try to connect your device from there... on www.ubuntu.com you can download a cd that can be used to try the system without install.
Good luck!
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I have a 64 bit windows 7 with windows media player 12,
please note that the device is recognised by windows as a Stand-alone Media Device...........
like the old active sync cellphones did. iconia connects to your computer using windows media player.
if you are terrified about this do it like me:
go buy a usb-disk
put everything you want on your tab on it
plug it in to the tab
install "ES File explorer"
browse the contents of your usb drive and copy them over
PRO's:
get data everywhere, no need to install drivers on your friends computers
you can't copy virusses from windows pc's to your tab's hidden sectors when having such a bridge, unless they are in the mp3's you move.
faster speed since the connection speed with windows media device sync is very slow.
CONS
takes some time to put it on the disk and to grab it from it...
other thingy
when you are in the same network as your computer you could try to copy them over using the network feature in ES File Explorer. just like network places in windows.
Not entirely sure what kind of process might be needed, but is it at all possible to use the older method of transferring files between a computer to an Android device (USB Mass Storage) instead of MTP?
MTP (in my experience) is... not ideal in most cases. File transfers are seemingly slower, can only do one thing at a time (I think if your transferring a file, you can't even browse other folders on the MTP device), and sometimes file transfers just get stuck for no reason. Was trying to copy over a few PDF's to my N10 and it seems to just hang randomly, had to reboot the device 4 times already (twice to just create and rename a folder).
what about the option in settings -> storage -> and tap the menu button on the top right and select USB Computer connection?
espionage724 said:
Not entirely sure what kind of process might be needed, but is it at all possible to use the older method of transferring files between a computer to an Android device (USB Mass Storage) instead of MTP?
MTP (in my experience) is... not ideal in most cases. File transfers are seemingly slower, can only do one thing at a time (I think if your transferring a file, you can't even browse other folders on the MTP device), and sometimes file transfers just get stuck for no reason. Was trying to copy over a few PDF's to my N10 and it seems to just hang randomly, had to reboot the device 4 times already (twice to just create and rename a folder).
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I had the same problem at first, but I realized my USB ports on the front end of my PC arent USB 2.0, so I plugged it into the back, and works like a charm. Just a thought.
corporal_hades said:
what about the option in settings -> storage -> and tap the menu button on the top right and select USB Computer connection?
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I already did that and tried both options (MTP & PTP), but the N10 does not show up on my computer at all in either case, with or without USB debugging. I have had no such problems with my other android devices (all still running gingerbread, in case that matters).
My N10 is rooted and my computer runs xubuntu 12.04; I don't have a window box to test... Any suggestions? Thanks!
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I already did that and tried both options (MTP & PTP), but the N10 does not show up on my computer at all in either case, with or without USB debugging. I have had no such problems with my other android devices (all still running gingerbread, in case that matters).
My N10 is rooted and my computer runs xubuntu 12.04; I don't have a window box to test... Any suggestions? Thanks!
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Unfortunately the answer is no.
There was a long discussion on the Galaxy Nexus forums about it a while back.
I also wish for a usb mass storage option for compatibility with radios for playing music. They don't read mtp/ptp for any generic one I've come across.
ceribaen said:
Unfortunately the answer is no.
There was a long discussion on the Galaxy Nexus forums about it a while back.
I also wish for a usb mass storage option for compatibility with radios for playing music. They don't read mtp/ptp for any generic one I've come across.
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Hmm, but what's the main thing stopping this from being possible? I thought I heard of a few JB devices that were able to get USB Mass Storage (LG Optimus G I think has a method, or whatever the phone is that has similar parts to a Nexus 4), and a Galaxy Tab I used to have had Mass Storage in ICS.
Mass storage is possible when the sdcard volume is actually a separate disk. On the Nexus 10 this is an "emulated" sdcard and cannot use USB mass storage safely because that protocol gives exclusive control to PC.
The easiest solution is to use one of the many wireless transfer apps like AirDroid.
Another option for Linux users if you really want a wired transfer is to use adbfs. This is a FUSE wrapper around the usb android debug protocol.
https://github.com/spion/adbfs-rootless
adbfs would give you seamless mounting just like USB Mass Storage.
Another solution, though not a seamless mount, is QtADB: http://qtadb.wordpress.com/
This is another wrapper around the usb android debug protocol.
Oh my god, thank you for the AirDroid recommendation. Holy crap is this program useful with my new nexus 4.
dalingrin said:
Mass storage is possible when the sdcard volume is actually a separate disk. On the Nexus 10 this is an "emulated" sdcard and cannot use USB mass storage safely because that protocol gives exclusive control to PC.
The easiest solution is to use one of the many wireless transfer apps like AirDroid.
Another option for Linux users if you really want a wired transfer is to use adbfs. This is a FUSE wrapper around the usb android debug protocol.
https://github.com/spion/adbfs-rootless
adbfs would give you seamless mounting just like USB Mass Storage.
Another solution, though not a seamless mount, is QtADB: http://qtadb.wordpress.com/
This is another wrapper around the usb android debug protocol.
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Thank you so much! AirDroid is genius!
MTP storage to USB storage: accidental solution!
espionage724 said:
Not entirely sure what kind of process might be needed, but is it at all possible to use the older method of transferring files between a computer to an Android device (USB Mass Storage) instead of MTP?
MTP (in my experience) is... not ideal in most cases. File transfers are seemingly slower, can only do one thing at a time (I think if your transferring a file, you can't even browse other folders on the MTP device), and sometimes file transfers just get stuck for no reason. Was trying to copy over a few PDF's to my N10 and it seems to just hang randomly, had to reboot the device 4 times already (twice to just create and rename a folder).
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dear espionage,
i just wanted to share this with you in case it would be helpful. in fact, you might even have more technical know-how to find out how i accidentally managed this useful fix. first, the reason i was looking for this MTP to USB storage was my habit of synchronizing my thumb-drive to my desktop using any free synching software. this of course, can be only be done when the storage device is recognized as a DRIVE. unfortunately, i believe with the updating of the OS to 4.1 onwards, the USB storage option has been removed, and now only access to MTP is possible. the bad side to this is that one's device is recognized as a portable media device and this means i can no longer synch like i did before the contents of the SD card to my desktop.
second, i found the solution accidentally by installing MultiMount-SD v.2.5 into my Sony Xperia V (LT25i). accidentally i say, because when i clicked on it for the first time, it wouldn't work. it showed a help tip saying that i should trying enabling what it called an MTP fix provided by the program. i did this, restarted the program and guess what happened. there occurred a looping sequence (i guess unending) device recognition-mount and unmount (the PC sounded this off many times), since there was no end to it, i decided to UNINSTALL the program even while the recognition loop was going on. in the meantime one could see a drive appearing in the EXPLORER with a (?), then it would appear with an assigned drive letter, then finally disappear, and so on.
i successfully uninstalled the MultiMount apk, and surprisingly even with the message that the device wasn't properly recognized or installed, i could now connect my Xperia and it mounts as a USB storage device and no longer MTP. to test this 'accident', i tried connecting it to my desktop, running Windows 7, and it worked without any hitches! I don't really mind losing the MTP option, sides it's very limited in its connectivity with the PC. Another bonus, is despite this, i can still communicate with my device through the MyPhoneExplorer program that allows one to send text messages and other stuff. This was one wonderful accident.
oh, one last thing, even with rebooting my phone, the setup seems to have become a 'permanent fix'. now, when the device is connected one sees in the activated portions in the top menu saying: USB Storage - SD card connected to PC. This was never there before... And i wonder what MultiMountSD must have left permanently to allow my Xperia V to now connect as USB storage. Yahoo!!!
i hope though, you could see what the technical side of this accident is, so that somehow something more stable could be done or programmed without having to go through the 'accidental' procedure i have detailed above.
ciao,
bodega1968
case-sensitive said:
I already did that and tried both options (MTP & PTP), but the N10 does not show up on my computer at all in either case, with or without USB debugging. I have had no such problems with my other android devices (all still running gingerbread, in case that matters).
My N10 is rooted and my computer runs xubuntu 12.04; I don't have a window box to test... Any suggestions? Thanks!
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I had this issue with Ubuntu 12.04 too, after I updated to 13.04 it started to work like a charm . You can also try changing the rules in your PC, you can find how to do it in the Google website .
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You can use OTG and transfer files
MTP and USB Storage
SmokinCharger said:
You can use OTG and transfer files
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Thanks SmokinCharger! I guess it's quite clear that attempts to allow certain devices to be read in USB Storage mode is a hardware configuration. If your device isn't designed for it, then it won't be able to do this. It's like wanting your volkswagen to have a 6th gear... thus, what was posted previously is true:
Originally Posted by dalingrin:
[Mass storage is possible when the sdcard volume is actually a separate disk. On the Nexus 10 this is an "emulated" sdcard and cannot use USB mass storage safely because that protocol gives exclusive control to PC.]
*I also would like to apologize what i've posted earlier regarding my accidental discovery with Multi-Mount SD. What the app actually did was to access a feature in my device (rooted Xperia V LT125i) which i wasn't aware of. All the time, my device was actually configured to have both MTP and USB Storage.:silly:
So for such devices that are hardware configured only to be MTP or PTP, the only 'solution' or 'alternative' would be to "ROOT" them and set them up with OTG (On the Go) USB access. This may have some hitches, but i've been using this quite a lot. Sometimes though, a RESET is required so that explorer applications would function normally.
Thanks again. I guess this will be all for now in our attempts to reconfigure something that is hardware defined in certain devices.
bodega1968 said:
Thanks SmokinCharger! I guess it's quite clear that attempts to allow certain devices to be read in USB Storage mode is a hardware configuration. If your device isn't designed for it, then it won't be able to do this. It's like wanting your volkswagen to have a 6th gear... thus, what was posted previously is true:
Originally Posted by dalingrin:
[Mass storage is possible when the sdcard volume is actually a separate disk. On the Nexus 10 this is an "emulated" sdcard and cannot use USB mass storage safely because that protocol gives exclusive control to PC.]
*I also would like to apologize what i've posted earlier regarding my accidental discovery with Multi-Mount SD. What the app actually did was to access a feature in my device (rooted Xperia V LT125i) which i wasn't aware of. All the time, my device was actually configured to have both MTP and USB Storage.:silly:
So for such devices that are hardware configured only to be MTP or PTP, the only 'solution' or 'alternative' would be to "ROOT" them and set them up with OTG (On the Go) USB access. This may have some hitches, but i've been using this quite a lot. Sometimes though, a RESET is required so that explorer applications would function normally.
Thanks again. I guess this will be all for now in our attempts to reconfigure something that is hardware defined in certain devices.
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You're welcome. Chainfire is a great and well known developer that has development many great apps including Stickmount. Look it up in Play especially the Pro version, which is "The price is aimed at being approximately one beer at the bar ". It works with mounting the UBS OTG. The Pro will automatically mount and unmount.