After trying many different ways and failing I finally did some research and have found that the Verizon Note 3 has a locked bootloader and should not be able to flash any AOSP based ROM. Is there any way to work around this with root/and or recovery? I find myself unable to even flash CWM to the device and when it did seem to work it told me there was an application not supported by the system and to take it to Verizon. So had to reflash stock 4.4.2 and re-root. I have gotten to try CM 12 on my fiancé's OnePlus One and fell in love. Is there any known work around short of buying a new phone?
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None. ASOP requires a different kernel which we can't do with locked bootloader. Sorry!
Well crap. I don't suppose there's any way to unlock the bootloader either is there?
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Bukimari said:
Well crap. I don't suppose there's any way to unlock the bootloader either is there?
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Double crap. Then are there any good TouchWiz based alternatives to CM?
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Double crap. Then are there any good TouchWiz based alternatives to CM?
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OK so I have no clue really want safestrap is really. I've only had phones that I could unlock my bootloader.
I guess my questions are is how much different is safestrap vs unlocked bootloader and did Verizon/Samsung lock this thing down to the point we can't unlock this thing.?
I just bought this phone on Verizon edge and had no knowledge about this thing being locked down.
Simple search will help.
Safe strap allows you to Flash stock ROMs and stock kernels. It is not a bootloader bypass. You cannot have recovery at this time. The chance of an actual bootloader unlock and/or recovery is slim.
We currently do have root.
If you want to do anything other than flash stock based ROMs and kernels (when SS is available, which is likely soon), then you should use a different device or get the Dev edition when it comes out.
You should do more research before putting that much money on a device down. I want the Note3 very much, but I much prefer a device with more flexibility, even if it isn't as badass.
I've had safe strap on my bionic and flashed asop ...but why would anyone on this device want asop??? ...that would not make a lot of..."touchwiz" lol.
Thanks for the reply. Yes your correct but no need to be an douche. Yes search answers questions but people who have used safestrap can sometimes provide better answers. This is the q&a section so that means you can ask questions. Anyways thanks for part of your reply.
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jprovan1 said:
Thanks for the reply. Yes your correct but no need to be an douche. Yes search answers questions but people who have used safestrap can sometimes provide better answers. This is the q&a section so that means you can ask questions. Anyways thanks for part of your reply.
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I hope that was for the jerk and not the joke.....
Was for the jerk. I liked the joke
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Simple search will help.
Safe strap allows you to Flash stock ROMs and stock kernels. It is not a bootloader bypass. You cannot have recovery at this time. The chance of an actual bootloader unlock and/or recovery is slim.
We currently do have root.
If you want to do anything other than flash stock based ROMs and kernels (when SS is available, which is likely soon), then you should use a different device or get the Dev edition when it comes out.
You should do more research before putting that much money on a device down. I want the Note3 very much, but I much prefer a device with more flexibility, even if it isn't as badass.
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This is wrong. Safestrap is a bootstrap recovery. It IS a "bootloader bypass" of sorts. Once everything is squared away, safestrap WILL allow flashing of non-stock ROMs and the execution of Kexec kernels. We will have access to almost everything available with an unlocked bootloader, except it will require room on our internal storage for the ROM files.
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This is wrong. Safestrap is a bootstrap recovery. It IS a "bootloader bypass" of sorts. Once everything is squared away, safestrap WILL allow flashing of non-stock ROMs and the execution of Kexec kernels. We will have access to almost everything available with an unlocked bootloader, except it will require room on our internal storage for the ROM files.
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AFAIK, it will not allow kexec, as that is a different exploit. Also, it cannot modify aboot. So you will not be able to install AOSP ROMs or anything but a modified stock kernel. Believe me, I would love to be wrong.
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AFAIK, it will not allow kexec, as that is a different exploit. Also, it cannot modify aboot. So you will not be able to install AOSP ROMs or anything but a modified stock kernel. Believe me, I would love to be wrong.
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Hashcode has implemented kexec into nearly every device's safestrap. Also, AOSP is still possible with the stock kernel. You simply have to incorporate certain parts of the stock ROM. I did all of this on the Droid Bionic. I had an AOSP ROM before safestrap was even created. It had a couple Blur elements that were very minor, but required.
Do we loose safestrap if we take OTA upgrade to Kitkat (when it's available)?
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Hashcode has implemented kexec into nearly every device's safestrap. Also, AOSP is still possible with the stock kernel. You simply have to incorporate certain parts of the stock ROM. I did all of this on the Droid Bionic. I had an AOSP ROM before safestrap was even created. It had a couple Blur elements that were very minor, but required.
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I was thinking of the S4 that doesn't have kexec and cannot flash AOSP. It is reasonable to assume that the N3 could get kexec even although the S4 doesn't have it.
SS is not bootloader bypass. Many benefits of an unlocked bootloader will not be realized with SS. However, it should be a decent option for at least getting some ROMs. With kexec, then most people will be happy.
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I was thinking of the S4 that doesn't have kexec and cannot flash AOSP. It is reasonable to assume that the N3 could get kexec even although the S4 doesn't have it.
SS is not bootloader bypass. Many benefits of an unlocked bootloader will not be realized with SS. However, it should be a decent option for at least getting some ROMs. With kexec, then most people will be happy.
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There is a huge difference when Hashcode has the phone in question. It's my understanding that this is the first Samsung phone he has had.
So he's stated that he plans to add kexec? That would be [email protected]$$.
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Im looking to leave Sprint for greener pastures. I'm on their Note 2 at the moment and figure I'll go with the Note 3 if/when I switch carriers. I was reading to make sure that the Verizon Note 3 would be rootable. As it stands, I'm very confused as to whether or not this device is able to be rooted. I'm an avid root user. I don't want to be stuck with a phone that I cannot root and control. I keep reading conflicting threads saying the phone can be rooted or can't be rooted. At this point, I would like to make the carrier switch within the next week, so I just need a definite "yes" or "no" as far as rooting.
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Im looking to leave Sprint for greener pastures. I'm on their Note 2 at the moment and figure I'll go with the Note 3 if/when I switch carriers. I was reading to make sure that the Verizon Note 3 would be rootable. As it stands, I'm very confused as to whether or not this device is able to be rooted. I'm an avid root user. I don't want to be stuck with a phone that I cannot root and control. I keep reading conflicting threads saying the phone can be rooted or can't be rooted. At this point, I would like to make the carrier switch within the next week, so I just need a definite "yes" or "no" as far as rooting.
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Yes it can be rooted, but does not have an unlocked bootloader.
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Yes it can be rooted, but does not have an unlocked bootloader.
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Thanks for the reply. Is the bootloader UNlockable? And how does that affect the phone when trying to flash new ROMs?
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Thanks for the reply. Is the bootloader UNlockable? And how does that affect the phone when trying to flash new ROMs?
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Well we have a recovery call SS aka SafeStrap. That allows us to flash custom roms. But we currently can't flash custom kernels nor AOSP roms for now.... ONLY CUSTOM TOUCHWIZ ROMS can be flashed in SafeStrap! Hope that clears everything out for you
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Well we have a recovery call SS aka SafeStrap. That allows us to flash custom roms. But we currently can't flash custom kernels nor AOSP roms for now.... ONLY CUSTOM TOUCHWIZ ROMS can be flashed in SafeStrap! Hope that clears everything out for you
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Ok. that makes sense now. with sprint AOSP roms were horrible with data so I usually avoided them. although decks reloaded was awesome on the Evo 4G.
what are the chances that we'll be able to unlock the bootloader? Im hoping the switch to verizon will greatly improve my data quality then maybe an AOSP rom will be an option.
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Ok. that makes sense now. with sprint AOSP roms were horrible with data so I usually avoided them. although decks reloaded was awesome on the Evo 4G.
what are the chances that we'll be able to unlock the bootloader? Im hoping the switch to verizon will greatly improve my data quality then maybe an AOSP rom will be an option.
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Slim to none on the bootloader being unlocked. I recently made the switch from Sprint to Vzw myself as i couldnt deal with Sprint's horrible service anymore. Best move i could have made.
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Slim to none on the bootloader being unlocked. I recently made the switch from Sprint to Vzw myself as i couldnt deal with Sprint's horrible service anymore. Best move i could have made.
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I just dont know if I can get past the locked bootloader. Id love to be running CM or any other AOSP roms on a device with a good data connection. Thanks for the clarification.
I was an avid rooter when i was with sprint a few months ago...my phones were always blazing fast but still slow as turtles when it came to data speeds.....switchet to vz unlimited data and now im on a stock non rooted n3...no need for it since my phone *always* works properly now....just my .02
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art90262 said:
I was an avid rooter when i was with sprint a few months ago...my phones were always blazing fast but still slow as turtles when it came to data speeds.....switchet to vz unlimited data and now im on a stock non rooted n3...no need for it since my phone *always* works properly now....just my .02
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how'd you get an unlimited data plan?
I usually root so I can use the mobile hot spot. I also like to have full control. I would prefer to be able to root.
I found it on craigslist look for someone that is selling their unlimited line then you have to just do an assumption of liability and ur set. I can even use hotspot wifi without root....for me this phone is such a beast along with the best network that i feel im in control and nothing else is needed
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krazy_smokezalot said:
Well we have a recovery call SS aka SafeStrap. That allows us to flash custom roms. But we currently can't flash custom kernels nor AOSP roms for now.... ONLY CUSTOM TOUCHWIZ ROMS can be flashed in SafeStrap! Hope that clears everything out for you
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Hey man, glad to see were back on the same devices! I came from e4gt
Also as it stands now you can flash roms via safestrap and root but we won't have a custom kernel or any aosp roms until we have an unlocked bootloader (maybe never)
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Hey man, glad to see were back on the same devices! I came from e4gt
Also as it stands now you can flash roms via safestrap and root but we won't have a custom kernel or any aosp roms until we have an unlocked bootloader (maybe never)
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lol ohh snap i thought your username sounded familiar. im not going to lie even now i still roam around the e4gt forum it was the best community i have ever seen. nice to see you here so far it looks like the 2 of of from the e4gt unless i missed someone else! lol
1) What are the benefits of CyanogenMod over stock?
2) Is CyanogenMod rooted or do you have to root it separately?
3) Does anyone know if they implemented TextSecure in their stock messaging yet?
4) Is switching back as simple as flashing the stock rom?
Cyanogenmod is better than stock for so many reasons that I'm not going to type them all out. Google that one.
It is a rooted rom.
I have no idea. Check the changelogs at www.get.cm
Yes.
Keep in mind that Cyanogenmod is only available on a very limited number of S4's running <MF3 firmware. For the majority of users who own thus device, it's not even an option.
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HORiZUN said:
Cyanogenmod is better than stock for so many reasons that I'm not going to type them all out. Google that one.
Keep in mind that Cyanogenmod is only available on a very limited number of S4's running <MF3 firmware. For the majority of users who own thus device, it's not even an option.
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Googling it came up with conflicting info. My about device page says I337MVLUEMK6, so I should be fine, right?
No. That's a 4.3 OS if I'm correct.
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rbedell said:
No. That's a 4.3 OS if I'm correct.
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Yup I misread the less than sign. What would happen if I flashed it? Would the device just be bricked?
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Yup I misread the less than sign. What would happen if I flashed it? Would the device just be bricked?
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Just bricked sounds a little light hearted. Yes probably a paperweight. You aren't even going to get as far as putting the custom recovery on it. If you flashed in safestrap you would wind up with a black screen because no kernel support yet.
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Just bricked sounds a little light hearted. Yes probably a paperweight. You aren't even going to get as far as putting the custom recovery on it. If you flashed in safestrap you would wind up with a black screen because no kernel support yet.
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Having more experience with CM, do you think a version will come out anytime soon for I337MVLUEMK6 or not?
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Having more experience with CM, do you think a version will come out anytime soon for I337MVLUEMK6 or not?
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Not until hashcode can get the custom kernel hand off to work with safestrap. Then they could do something. Until then no AOSP Roms will work.
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Hi, I'm probably being very idiotic atm but I can't think of any logical issues.
I'm using the Samsung Galaxy S4 i337.. I downgraded from NB1 to MK2, got root, installed safestrap, and attempted to install this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2544474
It was my understanding this came with Loki-Doki (saw it floating around in a different thread asking if it worked, can find it if nessecary) as a patch. So I downloaded and backed up my stock install, and attempted to install this.
Now the problem is when I boot, it returns me to a bootloop, if you could call that progress.. It vibrates occasionally while bootlooping (samsung - safeboot - blackscreen - vibrate - samsung....). I still have access to safestrap, download mode and so on, if it helps at all. I've also tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2537495 WITH loki-doki (as it is explicitly stated) to no success either..
I'm looking for one of two solutions;
how to get stock firmware back, or how to properly install this? Or any variation thereof. . . I don't know what the problem is ahaha
Bumping to say multiple wipes>reflashes later the blue screen has yet to occur, not sure what that was... Bootlooping is the huge problem now!
You can't use that rom. You need a tw based rom. This one is aosp
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You can't use that rom. You need a tw based rom. This one is aosp
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Doesn't the second one work with my phone though? And the comments say 'working on i337'etc on the first one... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2537495
It's still giving me the same problems with loki-doki.
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Doesn't the second one work with my phone though? And the comments say 'working on i337'etc on the first one... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2537495
It's still giving me the same problems with loki-doki.
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It only works if you have mdl firmware and not on safe strap
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It only works if you have mdl firmware and not on safe strap
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Guh. Well ****. They should make that more obvious in the OP.. saw no mention of either of those being an issue..
Any similar roms that still have TouchWiz or should I just roll back to OTA 4.4.2?
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Guh. Well ****. They should make that more obvious in the OP.. saw no mention of either of those being an issue..
Any similar roms that still have TouchWiz or should I just roll back to OTA 4.4.2?
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Start here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49562527
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So will it ever be possible to flash AOSP ROMs on NB1?
Not until the bootloader is unlocked. There is no telling when that will be.
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Best bet is to find a ROM that you like, then install the Google Experience Launcher apk. It will give your phone the stock google launcher.
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Domination Theme will also extensively theme your touchwiz rom to give it a more complete AOSP look without an AOSP rom.
All right thanks for the help guys.
I am looking to get rid of my htc one m8 and go back to Samsung. I know the s5 does not have an unlocked boot loader but it looks like custom roms can happen via safestrap. My question is, when buying the phone used, is there a specific software version i DO NOT want? The goal is to root, safestrap and then put some sort of custom rom on the phone.
Thanks
dougmod said:
I am looking to get rid of my htc one m8 and go back to Samsung. I know the s5 does not have an unlocked boot loader but it looks like custom roms can happen via safestrap. My question is, when buying the phone used, is there a specific software version i DO NOT want? The goal is to root, safestrap and then put some sort of custom rom on the phone.
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Currently you are good to go even on the latest NI2 update. You only need to downgrade the kernel to NCG via odin, run towel root, then reflash the newest NI2 kernel. There is a good write-up on it. Just look a few posts down.
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Currently you are good to go even on the latest NI2 update. You only need to downgrade the kernel to NCG via odin, run towel root, then reflash the newest NI2 kernel. There is a good write-up on it. Just look a few posts down.
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Thanks for the reply. I'm so excited to get off of the m8. The reception is terrible.
I also see that the dev scene looks pretty limited in the Verizon section. Is that because everything has been unified like the s4 so I can pretty much use any rom? AOsp, cm, etc
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Thanks for the reply. I'm so excited to get off of the m8. The reception is terrible.
I also see that the dev scene looks pretty limited in the Verizon section. Is that because everything has been unified like the s4 so I can pretty much use any rom? AOsp, cm, etc
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No, unfortunately, things are somewhat limited as the bootloader remains unlocked for the consumer edition so no custom kernels.
I think he meant to say the bootloader remains locked on the retail version.
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I think he meant to say the bootloader remains locked on the retail version.
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thanks, you are correct :silly: