[Q] Do Kodi performs well?

[Q] Do Kodi performs well? - Ouya General

Hi guys,
Got my Ouya collecting dust for some time now and i wonder if i can use it with the latest Kodi (for ARM) releases...
Does it output 1080p and support audio passthrough to the HDMI port ? Does it support hardware acceleration on the ouya (for h.264 files with above 20Mbit/s rate)?
And finally with custom ROM would be best to use it?
Any input is welcome
Thanks.

Not sure about pass through but it does support hw accel. The cm11 in the development section is really the only viable rom and it performs well paired with kodi

I've got 1080p and HDMI passthrough working (through network/LAN).
Nevertheless the HDMI handshake get lost sometimes, if that happens, you need to disconnect and then reconnect HDMI.
Don't know if it's the same with cm11.

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How to get 5.1 audio from Nexus Player

Hello everyone
I have Nexus Player, Tv, And Denon 1508 audio receiver
For now I have such seturp- the HDMI from Nexus goes to tv, and then with 2 cords goes to receiver
Is there any way to get 5 chanel audio out of hdmi? Maybe some splitter to get sound out of hdmi to optical / coaxial inputs? Any other ideas?

myshyak said:
Hello everyone
I have Nexus Player, Tv, And Denon 1508 audio receiver
For now I have such seturp- the HDMI from Nexus goes to tv, and then with 2 cords goes to receiver
Is there any way to get 5 chanel audio out of hdmi? Maybe some splitter to get sound out of hdmi to optical / coaxial inputs? Any other ideas?
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If your receiver has no HDMI inputs, you'll have to convert/split the HDMI signal. Monoprice sells just such a box for around $35:
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=101&cp_id=10114&cs_id=1011412&p_id=10251&seq=1&format=2
Good luck.
edit: I looked up your receiver and it seems to have 2 HDMI inputs (and one monitor/output to send to your TV). Is there any reason why you don't have the Nexus Player hooked up to your Denon via HDMI so it can decode your 5.1 audio directly?

It has hdmi imputs, but only as the switch, it can't take audio from there, unfortunately
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Thanks for link, it is exactly what I need
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Does your TV not have optical outs? I plug my np into TV and take optical outs to receiver and works great.

volwrath said:
Does your TV not have optical outs? I plug my np into TV and take optical outs to receiver and works great.
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Most TV optical outs will only give you 2.0 PCM stereo. With the above box, it'll passthrough the original Dolby Digital and/or DTS 5.1/7.1 signal to your receiver for it to decode. Due to bandwidth limitations, optical cannot support PCM 5.1, so DTS-HD Master Audio or DD TrueHD would be out, but it'd pass the embedded DTS and DD signal from those.

i havent had the chance to pick up the player yet, as it is not out in the uk, but i hope that 5.0 support for USB DAC's will make it work with one of these and an otg cable
http://www.turtlebeach.com/product-detail/sound-cards-accessories/audio-advantage-micro-ii/31

Elrondolio said:
Most TV optical outs will only give you 2.0 PCM stereo. With the above box, it'll passthrough the original Dolby Digital and/or DTS 5.1/7.1 signal to your receiver for it to decode. Due to bandwidth limitations, optical cannot support PCM 5.1, so DTS-HD Master Audio or DD TrueHD would be out, but it'd pass the embedded DTS and DD signal from those.
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Good points. My receiver is old and doesn't do dts-hd or truehd.

Same Issue
I am having a similar issue, I have the nexus player connected to an hdmi to spdif splitter. HDMI continues onto the TV, the spdif cable goes to a Sonos Playbar. I tried the same setup with my xbox 360 and was able to get 5.1 surround out of the sonos. But with the Nexus Player I am having no luck, I am just getting stereo audio. Anyone have any ideas?

XBMC will convert 5.1 signals to Dolby Pro Logic 2 which you can decode with your receiver for 5.1 sound.
Let's just hope that you're playing local media.

I made another thread, didnt see this before hand. Anyways my np is connected hdmi to the tv (so is everything else) and then optical out from tv to receiver . and surround is not working from np.
Everything else (xbox and what not) 5.1 works just fine

Giroyac said:
I made another thread, didnt see this before hand. Anyways my np is connected hdmi to the tv (so is everything else) and then optical out from tv to receiver . and surround is not working from np.
Everything else (xbox and what not) 5.1 works just fine
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It is a pretty rare TV that will output anything but 2.0 LPCM from sources connected to it via HDMI, even if those HDMI sources were passed DD and DTS - almost all TVs will decode and mix those streams down to stereo 2.0 LPCM for optical out to receiver. Internal TV sources are usually broadcast in Dolby Digital or DTS 5.1 over optical (such as Samsung Hub apps, etc), but external HDMI devices are almost always another story. However there are a few select TV sets that will indeed passthrough DD and DTS signals via external HDMI over its optical out, so maybe you have one.
One thing for absolute sure: the SPDIF standard (both optical and coaxial) does NOT has the bandwidth to pass 5.1 LPCM, no matter what the source (internal or HDMI). That is most likely the issue you are having with the Nexus as many apps will be transmitting uncompressed 5.1 LPCM over HDMI to receiver/TV.
One way to verify your set for sure is to install kodi on the Nexus. In kodi settings, make sure you select 5.1 channel output and enable passthrough for both Dolby Digital and DTS. The HDMI will then pass both of those signals unmolested to your TV, assuming your source DD and DTS in mkv's etc. If your TV is indeed a rare set that passes HDMI DD and DTS to its optical out, you should get the Dolby Digital and DTS signals from kodi at your receiver (with the optical connection from your TV). If kodi-hdmi-optical-receiver is receiving LPCM 2.0, it is indeed like most and downmixing internally.
Good luck.

Elrondolio said:
It is a pretty rare TV that will output anything but 2.0 LPCM from sources connected to it via HDMI, even if those HDMI sources were passed DD and DTS - almost all TVs will decode and mix those streams down to stereo 2.0 LPCM for optical out to receiver. Internal TV sources are usually broadcast in Dolby Digital or DTS 5.1 over optical (such as Samsung Hub apps, etc), but external HDMI devices are almost always another story. However there are a few select TV sets that will indeed passthrough DD and DTS signals via external HDMI over its optical out, so maybe you have one.
One thing for absolute sure: the SPDIF standard (both optical and coaxial) does NOT has the bandwidth to pass 5.1 LPCM, no matter what the source (internal or HDMI). That is most likely the issue you are having with the Nexus as many apps will be transmitting uncompressed 5.1 LPCM over HDMI to receiver/TV.
One way to verify your set for sure is to install kodi on the Nexus. In kodi settings, make sure you select 5.1 channel output and enable passthrough for both Dolby Digital and DTS. The HDMI will then pass both of those signals unmolested to your TV, assuming your source DD and DTS in mkv's etc. If your TV is indeed a rare set that passes HDMI DD and DTS to its optical out, you should get the Dolby Digital and DTS signals from kodi at your receiver (with the optical connection from your TV). If kodi-hdmi-optical-receiver is receiving LPCM 2.0, it is indeed like most and downmixing internally.
Good luck.
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Thanks for the informative reply, so what it is the best way to connect this to get 5.1 surround ?my surround system is basically a home theater blue ray player, is it even possible ?
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Elrondolio said:
It is a pretty rare TV that will output anything but 2.0 LPCM from sources connected to it via HDMI, even if those HDMI sources were passed DD and DTS - almost all TVs will decode and mix those streams down to stereo 2.0 LPCM for optical out to receiver. Internal TV sources are usually broadcast in Dolby Digital or DTS 5.1 over optical (such as Samsung Hub apps, etc), but external HDMI devices are almost always another story. However there are a few select TV sets that will indeed passthrough DD and DTS signals via external HDMI over its optical out, so maybe you have one.
One thing for absolute sure: the SPDIF standard (both optical and coaxial) does NOT has the bandwidth to pass 5.1 LPCM, no matter what the source (internal or HDMI). That is most likely the issue you are having with the Nexus as many apps will be transmitting uncompressed 5.1 LPCM over HDMI to receiver/TV.
One way to verify your set for sure is to install kodi on the Nexus. In kodi settings, make sure you select 5.1 channel output and enable passthrough for both Dolby Digital and DTS. The HDMI will then pass both of those signals unmolested to your TV, assuming your source DD and DTS in mkv's etc. If your TV is indeed a rare set that passes HDMI DD and DTS to its optical out, you should get the Dolby Digital and DTS signals from kodi at your receiver (with the optical connection from your TV). If kodi-hdmi-optical-receiver is receiving LPCM 2.0, it is indeed like most and downmixing internally.
Good luck.
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Oh and in xbmc i chose 5.1 but theres nothing in regards to passthrough setting or what not.

Giroyac said:
Thanks for the informative reply, so what it is the best way to connect this to get 5.1 surround ?my surround system is basically a home theater blue ray player, is it even possible ?
Oh and in xbmc i chose 5.1 but theres nothing in regards to passthrough setting or what not.
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In XBMC/kodi, you need to select either the advanced or expert option at the bottom of the settings dialog before you can see more setting options on each page. I believe the DD and DTS passthrough setting is revealed when you choose advanced.
As for getting 5.1 (compressed DD or DTS) to an older receiver that only has SPDIF optical or coaxial inputs: as posted above there are inexpensive $35 intermediate boxes that can split the DD and DTS signals from an HDMI input and send those along to an additional SPDIF output, as well as sending the original HDMI video/audio along via HDMI out to your TV.
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=101&cp_id=10114&cs_id=1011412&p_id=10251&seq=1&format=2
Or, if you have multiple HDMI sources and want one HDMI out to TV as well as one SPDIF output to your receiver:
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=101&cp_id=10110&cs_id=1011002&p_id=7974&seq=1&format=2
If your original sources are guaranteed to only be sending 2.0-5.1 Dolby Digital and/or DTS (as well as up to 2.1 LPCM), such a box will work great. This includes streaming most local or NAS sources via mkv's, etc through Plex or XBMC/kodi. If you are feeding any HDMI sources that contain uncompressed 5.1 LPCM or Dolby Digital Plus, etc, it'd only pass 2.0 LPCM from those sources over optical/coaxial. You'd need a more expensive box that can do the same as above but additionally re-encode all signals to 5.1 Dolby Digital before sending out over optical/coaxial if you needed/wanted 5.1 LPCM, AAC, DD+, etc sources to be in 5.1 over optical.
tl;dr: you don't have to replace your older receiver if you are streaming local media sources of up to 5.1 Dolby Digital or DTS. If you want to support online sources that may stream DD+ or uncompressed 5.1 LPCM, however, a more expensive converter box will be needed than above or, in most cases a better idea, you'd need to upgrade your receiver.
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volwrath said:
Thanks alot. You caused me to research my Samsung TV and I have found that I am only received prologic over my tv now i am going to have to buy an receiver.
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See above post... you may not need a new receiver depending on your needs.

Elrondolio said:
In XBMC/kodi, you need to select either the advanced or expert option at the bottom of the settings dialog before you can see more setting options on each page. I believe the DD and DTS passthrough setting is revealed when you choose advanced.
As for getting 5.1 (compressed DD or DTS) to an older receiver that only has SPDIF optical or coaxial inputs: as posted above there are inexpensive $35 intermediate boxes that can split the DD and DTS signals from an HDMI input and send those along to an additional SPDIF output, as well as sending the original HDMI video/audio along via HDMI out to your TV.
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=101&cp_id=10114&cs_id=1011412&p_id=10251&seq=1&format=2
Or, if you have multiple HDMI sources and want one HDMI out to TV as well as one SPDIF output to your receiver:
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=101&cp_id=10110&cs_id=1011002&p_id=7974&seq=1&format=2
If your original sources are guaranteed to only be sending 2.0-5.1 Dolby Digital and/or DTS (as well as up to 2.1 LPCM), such a box will work great. This includes streaming most local or NAS sources via mkv's, etc through Plex or XBMC/kodi. If you are feeding any HDMI sources that contain uncompressed 5.1 LPCM or Dolby Digital Plus, etc, it'd only pass 2.0 LPCM from those sources over optical/coaxial. You'd need a more expensive box that can do the same as above but additionally re-encode all signals to 5.1 Dolby Digital before sending out over optical/coaxial if you needed/wanted 5.1 LPCM, AAC, DD+, etc sources to be in 5.1 over optical.
tl;dr: you don't have to replace your older receiver if you are streaming local media sources of up to 5.1 Dolby Digital or DTS. If you want to support online sources that may stream DD+ or uncompressed 5.1 LPCM, however, a more expensive converter box will be needed than above or, in most cases a better idea, you'd need to upgrade your receiver.
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See above post... you may not need a new receiver depending on your needs.
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Holly crap dude, that must've been the best response I've got on any thread on any forum.
Thanks a lot.
So since from your previous replies you mentioned the nexus player uses 5.1 lpcm in many of the apps (which im assuming includes google play, netflix and what not) im either stuck buying the expensive splitter thing or a new receiver.
To be honest, i dont think either would help, since my main concern was watching show box movies with surround. Which i recently learned doesnt have 5.1 audio regardless. I guess same applies to xbmc (depending on what is streaming and if it does 5.1 or not)
Does what i said kind of makes sense to you ? I apologize for my noobness

Giroyac said:
Holly crap dude, that must've been the best response I've got on any thread on any forum.
Thanks a lot.
So since from your previous replies you mentioned the nexus player uses 5.1 lpcm in many of the apps (which im assuming includes google play, netflix and what not) im either stuck buying the expensive splitter thing or a new receiver.
To be honest, i dont think either would help, since my main concern was watching show box movies with surround. Which i recently learned doesnt have 5.1 audio regardless. I guess same applies to xbmc (depending on what is streaming and if it does 5.1 or not)
Does what i said kind of makes sense to you ? I apologize for my noobness
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Thanks. Yes, what you wrote makes sense and isn't noobie at all. There are some addon streams that XBMC/kodi can pass 5.1 from to your receiver, but you are correct that the vast majority of streams are indeed only in stereo or, at best, Pro Logic. As for Netflix and Google Play over the NP: I'm not sure what it streams as I've been on the road so much and haven't had the time with the NP to check it out. Some on these boards are saying that Netflix is only sending 2.0 LPCM on the Nexus right now. I'm sure someone else can chime in with more direct NP testing. If your main concern is getting a ripped media collection in 5.1 over an older receiver, the converter box applies. Otherwise, it does not.
Take care.

Elrondolio said:
Thanks. Yes, what you wrote makes sense and isn't noobie at all. There are some addon streams that XBMC/kodi can pass 5.1 from to your receiver, but you are correct that the vast majority of streams are indeed only in stereo or, at best, Pro Logic. As for Netflix and Google Play over the NP: I'm not sure what it streams as I've been on the road so much and haven't had the time with the NP to check it out. Some on these boards are saying that Netflix is only sending 2.0 LPCM on the Nexus right now. I'm sure someone else can chime in with more direct NP testing. If your main concern is getting a ripped media collection in 5.1 over an older receiver, the converter box applies. Otherwise, it does not.
Take care.
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I went to my TV manual, and confirmed that it does not send DD over optical from external HDMI, and none of the apps will give DD..... except Kodi. On the .mkvs I have that are encoded DD, Kodi appears to be passing 5.1 DD just fine through my TVs toslink. It is lighting up the DD light and coming through in surround, but so far its the only app I have found to do this. Neither netflix nor google movies nor any games I have found will light up DD.
Any thoughts on how further to test it or do you have any apps that should be DD? Can you confirm Google movies is in DD? I bought an HDMI converter tonight but cancelled the order until I figure out what is going on. Its not very impressive that Google left a lot of apps without DD.

volwrath said:
I went to my TV manual, and confirmed that it does not send DD over optical from external HDMI, and none of the apps will give DD..... except Kodi. On the .mkvs I have that are encoded DD, Kodi appears to be passing 5.1 DD just fine through my TVs toslink. It is lighting up the DD light and coming through in surround, but so far its the only app I have found to do this. Neither netflix nor google movies nor any games I have found will light up DD.
Any thoughts on how further to test it or do you have any apps that should be DD? Can you confirm Google movies is in DD? I bought an HDMI converter tonight but cancelled the order until I figure out what is going on. Its not very impressive that Google left a lot of apps without DD.
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The same here Kodi is the only app passing DD and DTS everything else including plex does stereo only.

WhiteWidows said:
The same here Kodi is the only app passing DD and DTS everything else including plex does stereo only.
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This may be the biggest issue with the NP to date! Even the older GoogleTV passed DD.

Questions for Mojo Stock Android Version

Hello anyone out there
I have a few questions for people out there who own a Mojo.
I'm interested in getting one to use Moonlight(Or GameStream) to gamestream to my TV through Ethernet from my PC.
The price is pretty decent however I have a few lingering questions.
Using Kodi (XMBC) for android, is it possible to get DTS passthrough on the MOJO, through HDMI? I'd like to test this so I can ensure my reciever can playback DTS content through Kodi.
How is your Kodi experience running the machine as always on.
Is anyone out there using the Mojo for gamestream/Moonlight content from PC to TV? If so what issues have you had?
Has anyone experimented with getting Xposed up and running on the box (there by allowing you to map power on and off..etc to the controller as well as any other functions?)
Thanks
Seven

Here are some of your answers. I did get Xposed up and running, but no mapping ON/OFF to a button.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mad-catz-mojo/general/cm12-installed-ouya-everywhere-t3062504

Capt.Obvious said:
Here are some of your answers. I did get Xposed up and running, but no mapping ON/OFF to a button.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mad-catz-mojo/general/cm12-installed-ouya-everywhere-t3062504
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Thanks
Its a pity because I decided against buying one of these, despite I would have loved to develop some stuff for this console.
What I really wanted to know is how people's experience was with Moonlight, given that with Tegra 4 there should be like 8ms latency max for streaming games from PC to Android

Hi,
Unfortunately hdmi audio passthrough does not work at least on stock firmware.... the only I got after messing with Kodi settings was "white noise".
I suppose it is not Mojo fault but more stock android fault/lack of feature.
Adding to that, automatic refresh rate change (eg. for 24p materials) doesn't work also. This makes Mojo maybe not useless but not enough featurefull to be full home cinema android solution.
Greets,
Tomek

What is the best a/v receiver for the nvidia shield tv?

Hi there. I have the Nvidia Shield TV Pro and have been having trouble finding the right receiver.
First I purchased a Sony STRDH550 5.2 Channel 4K AV Receiver, and found out that it cannot handle 4K upscaling (which the Nvidia Shield TV does according to Sony) Technically it worked, but what would happen is the screen goes black then will show the input on tv. Almost like someone unplugs the HDMI and then reconnects. Best way I have thought of naming this is an HDMI Blink. It happens numerous (10 to 15 times) per day. So according to Sony this receiver was only 4K passthrough capable, which actually didn't even work, I had to connect shield directly to TV and use ARC for sound.
Second, I purchased an Onkyo Thank you-NR636 7.2 Ch -- which is advertised as 4K passthrough and 4K upscale capable. I still have the HDMI blink, but now it is not as often (2-3 times) per day.
The TV I'm using is a Vizio M50-C1 and is 4K HDMI 2.0 HDCP 2.2.
It has 4 30Hz HDMI ports and 1 60Hz HDMI port.
The only way I can get ULTRA 4K to play from Netflix is to connect it to the 60Hz port.
The other 30Hz ports are labeled 4K, and when connected will play with audio/video but will not broadcast in 4K. I do not understand this, so if anyone could shed some light that would be great. (I've tried every troubleshooting step I could think of) ie. unplugging all cables and plugging them back in sequence. After connection unplugging the power on the Shield TV and re plug. (Same with receiver and TV) I've tried other sources on the receiver and tried every HDMI port/input.
So I'm thinking of returning this Onkyo Receiver and purchasing a better/more expensive one. I would appreciate anyones feedback on their experience with the Nvidia Shield TV and 4K Receiver/TV.
Has anyone been able to get full 60Hz 4K and 720/1080 Upscaling from Receiver to TV to operate without any problems?
Are there any Receivers you could recommend to me that can handle this properly? Thanks for your help.

I cant answer your question directly as I haven't used 4k receivers, but have you considered that the HDMI cable could be faulty?

Unfortunately I already replaced both the HDMI cables with brand new gold plated HDMI 2.0 4K cables.

I might be able to shed some light.
Firstly it doesn't sound like your HDMI cable. There's actually no such thing as a HDMI 2.0 cable. It's the devices that are HDMI 2.0, and will work with any high speed HDMI cable.
Always plug a 4K device into a 60hz HDMI if possible. That way if any of the apps, or even the home screen want to run at 50hz or 60hz you won't experience a problem. Obviously if it's plugged into the 30hz port, the picture will disappear when the device outputs anything above 30hz.
You don't actually want your AVR to upscale your picture. Your 4K TV will do it automatically, and TV's generally do a better job than AVR's.
As for the HDMI blink, I'm not entirely sure (I've not actually plugged my shield into my 4K TV yet) it could be when the system switches resolutions, eg 4K to 1080p. The screen needs a little time to process the new source. My TV does that when my PC is hooked up, and I switch between a 4K desktop environment and a 1080p game.
If it's any help my AVR has no problem with any 4K material I've thrown at it. I use a Pioneer VSX 930.

The Shield TV, like all modern Nvidia devices, has a built in upscaler. No need for an external one and in fact, extra processing is likely to degrade gaming experience.
Using ARC is actually a good solution although that has the disadvantage of requiring the TV to be on just to listen to music.

martyn3000 said:
I might be able to shed some light.
Firstly it doesn't sound like your HDMI cable. There's actually no such thing as a HDMI 2.0 cable. It's the devices that are HDMI 2.0, and will work with any high speed HDMI cable.
Always plug a 4K device into a 60hz HDMI if possible. That way if any of the apps, or even the home screen want to run at 50hz or 60hz you won't experience a problem. Obviously if it's plugged into the 30hz port, the picture will disappear when the device outputs anything above 30hz.
You don't actually want your AVR to upscale your picture. Your 4K TV will do it automatically, and TV's generally do a better job than AVR's.
As for the HDMI blink, I'm not entirely sure (I've not actually plugged my shield into my 4K TV yet) it could be when the system switches resolutions, eg 4K to 1080p. The screen needs a little time to process the new source. My TV does that when my PC is hooked up, and I switch between a 4K desktop environment and a 1080p game.
If it's any help my AVR has no problem with any 4K material I've thrown at it. I use a Pioneer VSX 930.
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Thank you for the information. It's actually really helpful. Those were all things I was wondering but not sure. Another question for you; I primarily use the shield remote and not the controller. If I have the shield connected to the receiver with pass through, and I try to adjust the volume with the shield remote it does not work. It says this app is set for surround sound please use the tv remote to adjust the volume. Is this normal? On my previous receiver that didn't happen. I could adjust the volume with the shield remote. Any thoughts?

NiHaoMike said:
The Shield TV, like all modern Nvidia devices, has a built in upscaler. No need for an external one and in fact, extra processing is likely to degrade gaming experience.
Using ARC is actually a good solution although that has the disadvantage of requiring the TV to be on just to listen to music.
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The arc solution does work. I get 4K video etc. but it still has the HDMI blink when playing non 4K content. The only solution so far I have found us to use the 30hz input on the TV, which eliminates the HDMI blink. Then when I way to watch 4K content, switch it back to the 60hz port.
I haven't tried changing the Nvidia HDMI settings to use the (less than 60hz) option. I think it's 27hz or something like that.

Does the TV work fine with another 4K source like a PC? You might also want to try a shorter and/or different brand of HDMI cable.

I have t tried another source. I'm not even sure my PC does 4K. Would I need a 4K graphics card? I will definitive try a different cable. I had previously used a gold plated cable that was a few years old, and that's when I noticed the HDMI blink. So I purchased two new ones from Amazon. I'm pretty sure they are the right ones, but would like to reassure if anyone knows.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NQ9OQU2/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

those should work, but if you are looking for a great AV receiver to use with this, I just bought a yamaha 2050, and everything works great!
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-A2050-9-2-Channel-MusicCast-Bluetooth/dp/B00YMN6E7O

mikie00mike said:
Thank you for the information. It's actually really helpful. Those were all things I was wondering but not sure. Another question for you; I primarily use the shield remote and not the controller. If I have the shield connected to the receiver with pass through, and I try to adjust the volume with the shield remote it does not work. It says this app is set for surround sound please use the tv remote to adjust the volume. Is this normal? On my previous receiver that didn't happen. I could adjust the volume with the shield remote. Any thoughts?
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HDMI control is a fickle beast. I find it works with some devices and not others. It could just be the combination of Shield and AVR you currently have.
I wouldn't be changing your AVR primarily on it's ability to function with your Shield though.

mikie00mike said:
I have t tried another source. I'm not even sure my PC does 4K. Would I need a 4K graphics card? I will definitive try a different cable. I had previously used a gold plated cable that was a few years old, and that's when I noticed the HDMI blink. So I purchased two new ones from Amazon. I'm pretty sure they are the right ones, but would like to reassure if anyone knows.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NQ9OQU2/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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If you have a 650 or above GPU (Kepler), it supports 4K output.

I have just overcome some 4k UHD issues with my Shield TV which are similar to the ones you described.
The main problem is HDCP 2.2....
This is what I found out.
Some time last year the HDCP standards were changed to require any 4K 60hz display to only accept a 4K 60hz UHD signal if it was wrapped in HDCP 2.2. Put simply - this means if any device in the connectivity chain is not HDCP 2.2 compatable you will not get a 4K 60hz UHD picture on your display.
For me this was a problem because my HDMI 4K UHD switch was not HDCP 2.2, and my LG 55EG960v refused the non-hdcp2.2 signal, so the shield TV would auto re-connect @ 1080p beacuse the connectivity chain was incompatible....
4K UHD Netflix requires HDCP 2.2, which is why it will only connect/work on the single HDMI input on your TV rated for 4k 60hz hdcp2.2...
The only way to guarantee a working 4K 60hz UHD signal is to ensure all your equipment is HDCP2.2 certified, or do some clever duplex routing.
Unitl this year HDCP2.2 equipment at reasonable prices was very scarce, but LIGAWO is a german manufactuer who seems to have just released a whole range of HDCP2.2 routers/switches/splitters etc (at reasonable consumer level prices).... I am sure there will be many more suppliers soon.
The rule of thumb I would use is - Unless the specification clearly states the device/equipment is HDCP2.2 compatable - don't go near it.....
I really, really hate DRM....
PS: It sounds like may not need to replace your expensive AV reciever, and what you want to achieve could be done through duplex routing. Happy to have a PM discussion if that would help. I currently run 5 consoles, 1 STB, 1Shield TV, 1 PC, and Chromecast audio, all with a Yamaha DSP Soundbar/Reciever (which is only HDMI 1.4 compatable), into 1 TV, and still can get 4k UHD 60hz + 7.1 HD audio.... So it can be done without replacing your AV reciever.

THIS IS AWESOME!! Thanks so much for this. Would you mind if I PM you later tonight when I get home from work? So would I also need a new router? Right now I have an Asus RTAC66U dual band. I also have a WD My Cloud EX4 that I stream videos from, would that need to be replaced also? I will PM you later if ok. Thanks again.
MintyTrebor said:
I have just overcome some 4k UHD issues with my Shield TV which are similar to the ones you described.
The main problem is HDCP 2.2....
This is what I found out.
Some time last year the HDCP standards were changed to require any 4K 60hz display to only accept a 4K 60hz UHD signal if it was wrapped in HDCP 2.2. Put simply - this means if any device in the connectivity chain is not HDCP 2.2 compatable you will not get a 4K 60hz UHD picture on your display.
For me this was a problem because my HDMI 4K UHD switch was not HDCP 2.2, and my LG 55EG960v refused the non-hdcp2.2 signal, so the shield TV would auto re-connect @ 1080p beacuse the connectivity chain was incompatible....
4K UHD Netflix requires HDCP 2.2, which is why it will only connect/work on the single HDMI input on your TV rated for 4k 60hz hdcp2.2...
The only way to guarantee a working 4K 60hz UHD signal is to ensure all your equipment is HDCP2.2 certified, or do some clever duplex routing.
Unitl this year HDCP2.2 equipment at reasonable prices was very scarce, but LIGAWO is a german manufactuer who seems to have just released a whole range of HDCP2.2 routers/switches/splitters etc (at reasonable consumer level prices).... I am sure there will be many more suppliers soon.
The rule of thumb I would use is - Unless the specification clearly states the device/equipment is HDCP2.2 compatable - don't go near it.....
I really, really hate DRM....
PS: It sounds like may not need to replace your expensive AV reciever, and what you want to achieve could be done through duplex routing. Happy to have a PM discussion if that would help. I currently run 5 consoles, 1 STB, 1Shield TV, 1 PC, and Chromecast audio, all with a Yamaha DSP Soundbar/Reciever (which is only HDMI 1.4 compatable), into 1 TV, and still can get 4k UHD 60hz + 7.1 HD audio.... So it can be done without replacing your AV reciever.
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So does this mean 650 or above GPU is for the receiver or media player? When you say 650 does that handle 4K passthrough, as well as full 4K upscaling from 480/720/1080p content?
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If you have a 650 or above GPU (Kepler), it supports 4K output.
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In the PC you're using as a source, to rule out the Shield as the problem. And yes, any Kepler or newer GPU (including the one built into the Shield) will upscale all the way to 4K, although the smaller ones won't be able to handle the most advanced algorithms. But unless you're a hardcore videophile, you'll be hard pressed to tell the difference between how well a high end GPU upscales as opposed to how well a smaller GPU upscales. Not surprising given that image scaling is just one of the most fundamental parts of 3D rendering.

mikie00mike said:
THIS IS AWESOME!! Thanks so much for this. Would you mind if I PM you later tonight when I get home from work? So would I also need a new router? Right now I have an Asus RTAC66U dual band. I also have a WD My Cloud EX4 that I stream videos from, would that need to be replaced also? I will PM you later if ok. Thanks again.
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I pm'd you some stuff.

Minty or Mike may I get a copy also please?
Minty I PMd you
Thanks!
mikie00mike said:
THIS IS AWESOME!! Thanks so much for this. Would you mind if I PM you later tonight when I get home from work? So would I also need a new router? Right now I have an Asus RTAC66U dual band. I also have a WD My Cloud EX4 that I stream videos from, would that need to be replaced also? I will PM you later if ok. Thanks again.
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thruster999 said:
Minty or Mike may I get a copy also please?
Minty I PMd you
Thanks!
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I have updated my config since I sent the details last, but I still duplex (or send multiple signals of the same HDMI source) to bypass the HDCP restrictions so I can continue to use my older soundbar. Picture with notes attached. Shout if you need anything more.

Cannot play Netflix with 4K @ 60hz for HDMI

I just switched to using a new TV over the weekend that's (finally!) 4k.
If it matters, the TV is the bleeding new Vizio P65-C1 also a good write up on the TV can be found here.
When I plug the Shield TV directly into the TV via HDMI and go to the Shield's settings then HDMI, it detects and shows (Recommended) next to 4K 60hz, which is what I set it to.
I can play YouTube 4K videos, I can watch anything I want without issue on Plex or Kodi, I can play all of my usual Shield exclusive games like Doom 3 or Portal without issue but for whatever reason, Netflix will just not play anything. Not just 4K/UHD content, just any content. I can move around through the Netflix menus and browse for what I want to watch without issue but when I try to actually play something it has no audio and freezes and might jump forward in broken increments or will be 100% frozen on the screen. I can stop it without issue and the app is otherwise responsive and not frozen.
I can Cast Netflix content to my Shield TV and it works without issue also. Correction, I cannot cast Netflix to the Shield TV. Same issues as trying to play locally. I was accidentally casting to my TV directly, which does work without issue. Both my TV and y Shield TV are hard wired to my router directly via ethernet.
It's only when I try using the Netflix app that is built-in.
The thing I noticed when I Cast vs the native app is it shows a loading progress screen and can take a few seconds depending on the contents quality to hit 100% then start playing. It seems like the native Netflix app is not trying to cache the content and seems like it's trying to direct stream it, which it cannot keep up with for some reason.
The same happens with cartoons, older shows that at best are available in 1080P like X-files or of course UHD/4K content. There is no different in the behavior between the different source videos in the native app.
I have already created a support request directly with Nvidia but wanted to see if others have encountered this as well and have any suggestions on what I can try to fix it?

Correction, I cannot cast Netflix to the Shield TV. Same issues as trying to play locally. I was accidentally casting to my TV directly, which does work without issue. Both my TV and y Shield TV are hard wired to my router directly via ethernet.

Hey man... Finally got some sun in Atlanta?? What a nice day....
Anyways...see the link below I answered for somebody else, see it applies to you. They key is HDCP2.2 compatible equipment all along your video signal, Shield (which is), receiver, TV input. If any isn't, it won't work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tv/help/netflix-4k-issue-t3291720

MrBungle67 said:
Hey man... Finally got some sun in Atlanta?? What a nice day....
Anyways...see the link below I answered for somebody else, see it applies to you. They key is HDCP2.2 compatible equipment all along your video signal, Shield (which is), receiver, TV input. If any isn't, it won't work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tv/help/netflix-4k-issue-t3291720
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It was a beautiful pollen coated day today
I checked and sure enough the TV does support HDCP2.2. Though it also notes that while it's HDMI 2.0, it's not enabled yet and will be coming soon in a firmware upgrade. Makes me wonder if that'll fix this once it's available.
I'm still going back and forth with Nvidia as well but so far nothing other than answering some questions and sending them some logs.

From your TV user manual:
When connecting a HDMI 2.0 device, HDMI Color Subsampling needs to be enabled to support 4K resolution at 60hz.
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Though it also notes that while it's HDMI 2.0, it's not enabled yet and will be coming soon in a firmware upgrade.
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Statement not correct... It support HDMI 2.0 out of the box. It's the HDMI 2.0a support that will be coming via a firmware upgrade.

the.teejster said:
From your TV user manual:
When connecting a HDMI 2.0 device, HDMI Color Subsampling needs to be enabled to support 4K resolution at 60hz.
Statement not correct... It support HDMI 2.0 out of the box. It's the HDMI 2.0a support that will be coming via a firmware upgrade.
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Ah, good catch. I'm not as up to date on the HDMI specs/standards these days.
I'm guessing then that HDCP2.2 should work out of the box though but will contact Vizio support to confirm.

Just curious...have you tried different HDMI inputs?
"The new P-Series models will include: four HDMI 2.0a/HDCP 2,2 inputs, plus one additional HDMI that handles 4k/60p at 4:2:0, although it is listed as HDMI 1.4, Vizio told us. The HDMI 2.0a inputs will allow the Vizio displays to connect to new Ultra HD Blu-ray players to stream 4K with HDR10 metadata, something earlier Vizio 4K UHDTVs have lacked"
Are you connected to that "one" input?

MrBungle67 said:
Just curious...have you tried different HDMI inputs?
"The new P-Series models will include: four HDMI 2.0a/HDCP 2,2 inputs, plus one additional HDMI that handles 4k/60p at 4:2:0, although it is listed as HDMI 1.4, Vizio told us. The HDMI 2.0a inputs will allow the Vizio displays to connect to new Ultra HD Blu-ray players to stream 4K with HDR10 metadata, something earlier Vizio 4K UHDTVs have lacked"
Are you connected to that "one" input?
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According to Vizio's support "The tv supports HDCP 2.2 on all HDMI ports" so I'm not sure. The manual does not detail specific ports at all for HDCP.

@reTARDIS I just bought the same TV and am seeing the same issue. I noticed that if I change the Audio setting for the show I'm watching from "English 5.1" to "English" the show streams correctly. I'm not sure why this is happening either.

oracleicom said:
@reTARDIS I just bought the same TV and am seeing the same issue. I noticed that if I change the Audio setting for the show I'm watching from "English 5.1" to "English" the show streams correctly. I'm not sure why this is happening either.
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Interesting find. I'll test that on mine this evening.

@oracleicom I just tried this and confirmed it works for me as well. I send an update to Nvidia with this info to see what they have to say. Thanks for the workaround. It's not perfect but will do for the short term.

I would make sure you have a HDMI 2.0 cable (18Gb/sec), that's the only one that supports 4K @ 60fps with 4:4:4 chroma (color).
Use a port on the tv that supports HDMI 2.0.

I am having the same issue with Nvidia Shield and and the same TV. I was so excited when I got it today. I can also make it go with changing it english from 5.1. I had the Shield hooked up to a previous Vizio 4k TV and there was no issue. I am talking to Vizio support now and they want to blame the Shield even though it works fine with their previous 4K TV.
I also tested with my Nexus Player and it has the same issue.

@reTARDIS Did you ever get a reply from anyone at Vizio or Nvidia? On mine, everything but Netflix works fine, so maybe it is something that Netflix can fix in their Android TV app.

Correction, both Google Play Movies & TV and Netflix have the issue. Nvidia is saying it is Vizio's issue and Vizio is saying it is Nvidia's issue. I pointed out the Nexus Player has the same issue with the new Vizio and they have not replied.

reverik said:
@reTARDIS Did you ever get a reply from anyone at Vizio or Nvidia? On mine, everything but Netflix works fine, so maybe it is something that Netflix can fix in their Android TV app.
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They've really not given any indication that they have a clear understanding on what is happening and every time I ask for an update, if they reply at all, it's just to say that they're still researching the issue.
They recently suggested that I test the following.
SHIELD TV HDMI out -> Vizio P65-C1 -> Vizio P65-C1 HDMI ARC to Pioneer SC-1522K
Initially, I didn't think this would work as I had thought TV's did not output anything via HDMI and could only input but after doing some further reading today into HDMI and ARC, I think it might work to output just audio from my TV via HDMI to the receiver using one of the HDMI ports that supports ARC but I have not yet tried this.
As a backup solution, I just ordered this USB to Optical audio adapter last night that others have said works with the Shield TV to output audio via USB to TOSLINK. The device includes a TOSLINK to SPDIF adapter. I plan on just using this to output SPDIF directly to my receiver to bypass the Vizio TV to see if this resolves the issue or not. I will update later once I've tested it out.
I'll report back my findings with both test.

Update: The same issue exist with the USB to SPDIF/Optical adapter straight into the SPDIF/Optical input on my receiver (bypassing the TV for audio).
I'm at a loss for what to try next and the issue has not gone away.

Update: I figured out how to make ARC via HDMI work from my TV to my receiver over the weekend and am now only using audio out for all devices connect to my TV via HDMI then out via the ARC HDMI port on my TV (HDMI 1) and into the ARC input on my Pioneer receiver. While audio works without issue for any connected device and the Shield TV in general, the same issue exist as before with 5.1 audio playback from Netflix on the Shield TV.
I also did a factory reset on my Shield TV this past weekend but sadly it didn't change/fix the issue which still persist.
I just cast to my TV now for Netflix and avoid using the Netflix app on the Shield TV.

Xcloud -streaming from xbox

Hi
i have tested current xbox app that include streaming function from xbox one/series x
Unfortunately while picture is perfect, audio keep stuttering/popping all the time.
I have tested it on wifi 2.4, 5 and usb ethernet adapter - all same results. I am sure its not my network as picture is very fluent with no sign of compression. Also in same environment S10 has no audio problem...
Speakers hardware wise are also good as youtube playback is ok.
That lead me to possible problem with roms, maybe driver or the way uncompression is done?
I have tested cm from 2016, lineage from 2017 and 2018 and both versions of RR.
App won't work with Android 5 so no way of try on stock rom....
Maybe someone has idea how to sort this out...
Shield portable would be great Xbox streaming device as controller is working and picture quality is excellent.
Thanks

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