Database Users

Thank you for everything.

I want to just take a second and say thanks for ALL the support I have received from most of you since I started out here. I realize that Autism and Android were an unlikely pair but I thought it worked well.
Lately there has been an increasing level intolerance for what I was trying to do here. I know it's a vocal minority but they have become louder and louder. I have become quite disheartened as of late with the direction this forum has taken and I'm going to step back for a while. My ultimate goal is to further the spread of Autism Awareness and hopefully get Android4Autism launched by the end of the summer or early fall and so I'm going to redirect my efforts there.
I honestly had the best of intentions with everything I was doing here but it has apparently run it's course. Aside from asking you to "think about donating your old devices for the Android4Autism project (and I specifically said not until after everything was set up and legit so that everyone was protected) and votes, I never asked for anything. Despite the claims that have been made to the contrary about my intentions.
I want to thank everyone for voting for my blog but as you may notice the thread has been moved after being here for over 2 1/2 months. I realize that it was not "on topic" but it was a positive thread. I thought it was amazing how everyone unified and worked together for a common goal. I suspect that the vocal minority contributed to this and that saddens me. I'm not angry this happened, it's just that fact that some people would take it upon themselves to get this removed from our forums after all this time, instead of just not reading it.
I'm not looking for anything out of this. After all you have given to me, I felt I owed you an explanation for my decision. That's the very least I can do. I'll never be able to repay all the kindness and support you have shone to both me and my family. You have all made a difference in our lives. You have helped to spread awareness and for that I will forever be grateful.
Please don't turn this into a flame war either. I'll close the thread myself. I just want everyone to understand how grateful I am for everything and that my stepping back is my choice. My methods are becoming the target for some people and I won't change the way I'm doing things because I believe in what I'm doing. So the best thing is to just walk away. At least for now.
You all know where to find me and I'm happy to help. Please feel free to contact me through my blog or Google+ if you need anything and I will do whatever I can to help you.
Thanks again for everything. I'm very proud of what we were able to accomplish. Please help to keep this community moving forward.
Rob

Keep up the great work , Sir !

Forget about those that complain about everything, what you do is great! Besst of luck to you!
Sent from my SPH-D700

WTG blank HEADS!!!!! another bomb dev/human gone... this is why most ppl stayed at ppcgeeks for so long... tooo much bs and neg energy...
ill miss your work ptfdmedic.. best of luck for you and your growing family!!

Thanks Rob for all that you do. And I hope you don't let this get you down too much. I remember when I first came to this forum and I thought what is this autism stuff all about here but as I took the time to read and learn I appreciated what you were doing and felt it was a great cause. If the bs here isn't worth your time I can hardly blame you. You've been far more generous with it than most would be. I as I am sure most people wish you nothing but the best!
-Jason
Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk

im sorry to see u go rob will miss you and i hope u and emmett(sp?) and family (sp?)
do well.
Thanks for all your hard work and i know you will be missed i hit thanks for you, goal is to break that thank meter, i really want to see one full
Farewell and best wishes
- David

ptfdmedic said:
I realize that it was not "on topic" but it was a positive thread.
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Not trying to be a **** but this sentence pretty much sums it up.

Thank you for what you have done.
As much as I would like to point fingers at those responsible I will refrain from it because you asked me not to.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk

You will be missed. I haven't been on as often as I used to because of all the BS here, but I still lurk and you will be missed!

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Not trying to be a **** but this sentence pretty much sums it up.
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Yes, yes you are.
How hard is it to not click on threads about things you're not interested in?

Rob,
Keep up the good work brother! Hopefully things will calm down here while you focus on your rom! I sent you a PM a while back... I may have some connections in the school (if you don’t already). Might help in pushing your rom on a local basis. Stay strong, God bless, and good luck in your endeavors!
From one medic to another... you're alright in my book!
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

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Not trying to be a **** but this sentence pretty much sums it up.
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Rob asked us to not turn it into a flaming thread, but you sure don't make it easy. Funny how you have been on xda 2 months, but have only posted 21 times and you choose to post on this... why are you trying to start something?

JettMartinez said:
Yes, yes you are.
How hard is it to not click on threads about things you're not interested in?
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+1 no matter how kind and sincere you can be in a post there is always gonna be the one degenerate at the keyboard thinking "How can I dump on this guy."
As for the OP, keep up the good work bro

im not a homer by any means but when my Epic took a swim i was forced to boot my moment up and went back to SDX developers for roms..i REALLY wished the Epic would have caught on over there..just seems like a much better environment....this site has driven away quite a few developers..its a shame..thanks for everything you do rob.not just over here but with your Windows Mobile stuff over at PPCGeeks.if people cant tolerate your Autism Awareness, with all the good stuff you put out for the Epic, then this isnt the place for them..it shouldnt be the other way around...

JettMartinez said:
Yes, yes you are.
How hard is it to not click on threads about things you're not interested in?
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Just as hard as it is to follow the forum rules. Say for instance that I considered the elimination of homosexualaity a "positive cause". Should I be allowed to push that agenda here at the cost of the owners of the site simply because I think this is a positive agenda? (According to some users, yes...)
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Rob asked us to not turn it into a flaming thread, but you sure don't make it easy. Funny how you have been on xda 2 months, but have only posted 21 times and you choose to post on this... why are you trying to start something?
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Regardless of what Rob has given to us (the community) why does he not have to follow the rules of the forum? Why is it appropriate for him to come and complain that his thread was moved to the correct forum and he is quitting because he disagrees with the opinion of those that pay for and/or manager this resource to be available to us?
@dnathan13: Regarding your comment on my membership length here... What Android software have you developed in your lengthy membership in these forums?

Medic,
I got another one for you, like old times: "The best way to fight negative acts is with perseverance, love and the truth"
Stay the course my friend and don't let nobody tell you lies about the truth you cary...
Sent from an Epic with 4G

Pete720 said:
+1 no matter how kind and sincere you can be in a post there is always gonna be the one degenerate at the keyboard thinking "How can I dump on this guy."
As for the OP, keep up the good work bro
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Fail to see how pointing out that we must play by the rules the owners of this site set is "dumping on someone". It's reality, if you don't like it create your own forum and set the rules...
EDIT: I have nothing against Rob's cause and believe the thread is in the correct forum now...

Rob, I've supported you ever since I heard about you and your cause. You are one of the few members here that has gained my respect. I thank you for *Everything* you've done here.
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.

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Just as hard as it is to follow the forum rules. Say for instance that I considered the extermination of homosexuals a "positive cause". Should I be allowed to push that agenda here at the cost of the owners of the site simply because I think this is a positive agenda? (According to some users, yes...)
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Really?
I don't believe any HUMAN being would have a problem with autism awareness.
Like comparing apples and oranges.
Smh
Thanks Rob. I've enjoyed reading and learning from you. I've been a member pretty much since the epic launched, lurked and just read alot; lately its hard not to respond to some of this.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

Keep that head up Rob we are all still behind you. You showed us a piece of yourself and your family here and became a friend to most of us. Keep in mind one thing, you are dealing with a lot of minors on heee and they cant grasp the idea they are ****ting on you with some of the comments about your intentions. They arent mature enough to see how it comes out. The mature adults will remain on your side.
Never feel you asked for anything or too much. Your community came together to give you what you deserved without you asking for it.
Take a rest man play with those kids, your headed in the right direction with the autism awareness, families will benefit from your sweat!
Sent from my AOSP+ Premium ROM

So long and thanks for all the fish

This will be my last thread here. XDA is no longer the site I once loved and cherished.
Thank you to all the devs here who've had made my Shift awesome and who I've learned so much from.
Thank you to all the friends I've made here. I'd be sad to leave you but I know that I'll still be seeing all who matter in Huddle or IRC.
ALL HAIL OTAKING71, THE RAPER OF HBOOT!!!

Hate to see you go man but completely understand. See ya in the irc and huddle

I hate to see it too,not far behind see ya in the huddle!
Sent from my PG06100 using xda premium

Well this sucks! But we will still be in contact... unfortunately, or should I say fortunately, I will be cancelling my membership shortly. Certain people have turned their backs to the TRUE community members and it saddens me because I too enjoyed this site at one point... see you in the huddle boss!
Sent from my PG06100 using Tapatalk

Aww that sucks. I am close to the same point though.
and where is the Huddle at? Im assuming you mean google+ do I just search for EVO Shift then?

Gonna miss you man. XDA has changed in last 9 months i've been here and not for the good either
Sent from my evo shift as mods are retarded

what used to be different about xda? ever since i got an evo shift and my friend told me about xda i've been hooked. i'm on here everyday finding out new information. this thread makes no sense to me...

jwigley24 said:
what used to be different about xda? ever since i got an evo shift and my friend told me about xda i've been hooked. i'm on here everyday finding out new information. this thread makes no sense to me...
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A major part of it from what I have seen since I've been here is the quality of the people. Not accusing or placing blame on anyone. But there is a major difference from when I joined in march to now.
Sent from my Shifty Speedy using the XDA Premium App

I understand completely, as I used to be very active on here, but do little more than lurk in the shadows these days. The people here are rude miscreants, the mods/admins are power tripping paedophiles living in there moms basements, and there is really nothing posted on here that cannot be done with a minor understanding of linux and java.
P.S. After what the mods did with Indirect, while supporting a scam artist, I feel confident of a ban. So, to the mod that bans me, I forgive you already, as I have worked hard to put myself in an excellent place in life, you have not, so I understand the anger. Look at this way, at least you and your mother will have a dinner topic to discuss (as opposed to the ususal conversations about the health of her favorite cats).

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I understand completely, as I used to be very active on here, but do little more than lurk in the shadows these days. The people here are rude miscreants, the mods/admins are power tripping paedophiles living in there moms basements, and there is really nothing posted on here that cannot be done with a minor understanding of linux and java.
P.S. After what the mods did with Indirect, while supporting a scam artist, I feel confident of a ban. So, to the mod that bans me, I forgive you already, as I have worked hard to put myself in an excellent place in life, you have not, so I understand the anger. Look at this way, at least you and your mother will have a dinner topic to discuss (as opposed to the ususal conversations about the health of her favorite cats).
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Was talking to Indirect on IRC.
He wanted me to tell you he says thanks cloverdale and that you can find him in the shift forums of sdx.

I have to say i totally agree, im sorry to say xda is corrupt... even though the devs are great this has gone to far. 1 month ago the shift forums were a peaceful place, we all got along knowing that every shift is different... now mandatory donations and jerks come along
LET THE HUDDLE LIVE ON!

Well, this thread appears to be full of mature people doesn't it?
Closing this before someone else calls us "power tripping paedophiles living in their moms basements"

[REQ] New Years Resolutions FOR XDA Members

Off topic i know.. but i think there should be a thread like this in every phone type/model section of the Forum..
i feel so so sorry for Devs who keep on getting harassed for ETAs for their prospective ROMS/Kernels/bowel movements etc... i would just like to tell all those people who say "WAN IZ ICE KREAM TRIFLE WERKING ON MAI SAMZUNG UNIVERSE EGG SANDWITCHHHH???"...
Please make at least ONE New Years resolution..
DONT harass the Devs, they do this as a hobby and members of XDA are not their bosses. this is a surefire way of getting very good Devs leaving XDA completely and even worse get them to stop developing at all...
So please please please... for your own sake and everyone elses.. play nicely, think about what you ask.. otherwise the site WILL suffer..
And in the wise words of Jerry Springer
"Be Good to yourself, and Each other"
Ciao for now..

And you really think these noobs are actually going yo read your thread or heed your warnings?
They can't even be bothered reading the OP of a dev rom that has all the info they need.
In real life crims will be crims, idiots will be idiots just like noobs will be noobs.
Sent from my GT-I9100

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And you really think these noons are actually going yo read your thread or heed your warnings?
They can't even be bothered reading the OP of a dev rom that has all the info they need.
In real life crims will be crims, idiots will be idiots just like noobs will be noobs.
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True True... maybe i should retitle my thread to "ICS WORKINGGGGGGGGGG" that should hook 'em in.. "
it's just really frustrating to see..

nutmegy said:
True True... maybe i should retitle my thread to "ICS WORKINGGGGGGGGGG" that should hook 'em in.. "
it's just really frustrating to see..
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It is really frustrating to see but please do not forget if all followed the rules will would be living in a perfect world and unfortunately we do not. You have a good point but like the post above by sxi2000 i doubt many would read this thread..
but anyway good on you fella and keep soldiering on to get rid of the n00bs...

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It is really frustrating to see but please do not forget if all followed the rules will would be living in a perfect world and unfortunately we do not. You have a good point but like the post above by sxi2000 i doubt many would read this thread..
but anyway good on you fella and keep soldiering on to get rid of the n00bs...
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in terms of my knowledge i am relatively noobish but at least i have common sense... but anyway XDA is getting such a bad name across the Net as the noob swarm of idiots takes over...
just wanted to say my piece.. and pass on my appreciation
Happy New Year to all and hope all your Christmasses/Kwanzas/Hannukahs (unsure of other religions/countries) were groovy..

Ronm Guides instructions etc should all be boldly titled
DO NOT READ THIS >> DO NOT FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS .
Please ask the same question that was asked half an hour ago .
Yes you can flash a Nokia rom on your SGS .
Before the noobs reply nobody has a complaint about any user that asks a relevant question or cannot quite grasp an instruction set .Its those that simply refuse to learn anything and expect members to do it all for them probably due to them still having mummy wipe their arse .
We all started from zero knowledge but most of us took the time and trouble to read and learn .
jje

nutmegy said:
in terms of my knowledge i am relatively noobish but at least i have common sense... but anyway XDA is getting such a bad name across the Net as the noob swarm of idiots takes over...
just wanted to say my piece.. and pass on my appreciation
Happy New Year to all and hope all your Christmasses/Kwanzas/Hannukahs (unsure of other religions/countries) were groovy..
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Happy New Year to you as well fella

JJEgan said:
Ronm Guides instructions etc should all be boldly titled
DO NOT READ THIS >> DO NOT FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS .
Please ask the same question that was asked half an hour ago .
Yes you can flash a Nokia rom on your SGS .
Before the noobs reply nobody has a complaint about any user that asks a relevant question or cannot quite grasp an instruction set .Its those that simply refuse to learn anything and expect members to do it all for them probably due to them still having mummy wipe their arse .
We all started from zero knowledge but most of us took the time and trouble to read and learn .
jje
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Quality!
i'm at work and that did make me chuckle..... oh the life of a Network Engineer... now if my SGS2 could run Cisco IOS... hmmmmmm

Well said Nutmegy (and others).
I'm still relatively n00bish, but I've got initiative and a desire to learn everything/anything I can about how this phone ticks. I absolutely agree that anyone who isn't prepared to "do the hard yards" should honestly stick to stock unless/until they are.
This would save a number of people (this number seems to be growing by the week) the grief of "soft bricking" their phone & not being able to use same for however many days it takes to get the advice on here to fix it.

MistahBungle said:
Well said Nutmegy (and others).
I'm still relatively n00bish, but I've got initiative and a desire to learn everything/anything I can about how this phone ticks. I absolutely agree that anyone who isn't prepared to "do the hard yards" should honestly stick to stock unless/until they are.
This would save a number of people (this number seems to be growing by the week) the grief of "soft bricking" their phone & not being able to use same for however many days it takes to get the advice on here to fix it.
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it's not so much the soft bricking.. it's requests for ETAs that seriously does my head in..

Easy to say, but hard to follow in reality idiots will be idiots ...

bala_gamer said:
Easy to say, but hard to follow in reality idiots will be idiots ...
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so true so true

bala_gamer said:
Easy to say, but hard to follow in reality idiots will be idiots ...
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Bala.... you are so right... anyway enough of my rant....
i need a strong coffee... working on a Jack Daniels induced hangover is strictly not advisable...

Oh hell yes. I tend to mock & ask the mods to close the thread. After I've made sure the OP has seen/taken note of my mocking/sarcasm, of course
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it's not so much the soft bricking.. it's requests for ETAs that seriously does my head in..
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This thread is unbelievable senseless. You will nobody convince to stop spamming. Just another off topic,,look-how-good-I-am-and-how-stupid-are-other'' thread. asking such questions is business as usual, every dev should be cool enough to handle and ignore it.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium

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This thread is unbelievable senseless. You will nobody convince to stop spamming. Just another off topic,,look-how-good-I-am-and-how-stupid-are-other'' thread. asking such questions is business as usual, every dev should be cool enough to handle and ignore it.
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Ok fair enough.. i'm not going to rise up to it... just hungover and fed up of reading crap and watching XDA going down the toilet.. if there is a Mod somewhere please close... it was not my intention to pi$$ anyone else off... just a minor rant....
Merry XMAS and a happy new year to you!

If anyone thinks its bad now...then just wait for next year. It will get much worse.
Very simple reason - just do the maths. Last year in Australia alone android had about 20% market share. This year it rose to 48% of all smartphones sold to be the number 1 operating system. All in just one year. I suspect the same pattern is happening worldwide.
So next year it will only increase. Therefore, more users = more xda members so hold on to your seats boys and girls.
And do you know what??? There is nothing you or I can do about it. Shame!
Maybe a silly suggestion and it may be hard to implemented, but xda should have a system where new members need to have been logged in for say 100 hours or have read a certain number of threads before they are allowed to post. Maybe even pop-up messages with basic general information / warnings etc for them as well during the first month/s.
My worry is that it may eventually get so bad that the forum administrators will do something drastic that affects all users negatively.
Sent from my GT-I9100

well if you are just talking about resolutions on here regarding smartphones well i suppose getting stable ICS is one, also i seriously cant wait to get a ASUS Transformer Prime and ill by pass on the Galaxy Nexus and Note both of which i don't believe are as good all round as the SGSII and wait for the SGSIII.
ALSO it would be good if noobs who post duplicate questions without using the search function first get an infraction, there needs to be a disclaimer of some sort when they register for the first time that they need to use the search function first and only if they cannot find the answer to their questions (which is all honesty is unlikely as pretty much everything has been covered on here) only then start a thread.
Finally - it would be good if some people didn't steal other peoples work and pass if off as their own, and remember people play nice as much as you can, all this bickering isn't productive for the forum.
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sxi200 said:
If anyone thinks its bad now...then just wait for next year. It will get much worse.
Very simple reason - just do the maths. Last year in Australia alone android had about 20% market share. This year it rose to 48% of all smartphones sold to be the number 1 operating system. All in just one year. I suspect the same pattern is happening worldwide.
So next year it will only increase. Therefore, more users = more xda members so hold on to your seats boys and girls.
And do you know what??? There is nothing you or I can do about it. Shame!
Maybe a silly suggestion and it may be hard to implemented, but xda should have a system where new members need to have been logged in for say 100 hours or have read a certain number of threads before they are allowed to post. Maybe even pop-up messages with basic general information / warnings etc for them as well during the first month/s.
My worry is that it may eventually get so bad that the forum administrators will do something drastic that affects all users negatively.
Sent from my GT-I9100
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Not silly at all my friend something needs to be done about the sheer amount of duplicate questions being asked time and time on here.

jonny68 said:
well if you are just talking about resolutions on here regarding smartphones well i suppose getting stable ICS is one, also i seriously cant wait to get a ASUS Transformer Prime and ill by pass on the Galaxy Nexus and Note both of which i don't believe are as good all round as the SGSII and wait for the SGSIII.
ALSO it would be good if noobs who post duplicate questions without using the search function first get an infraction, there needs to be a disclaimer of some sort when they register for the first time that they need to use the search function first and only if they cannot find the answer to their questions (which is all honesty is unlikely as pretty much everything has been covered on here) only then start a thread.
Finally - it would be good if some people didn't steal other peoples work and pass if off as their own, and remember people play nice as much as you can, all this bickering isn't productive for the forum.
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Not silly at all my friend something needs to be done about the sheer amount of duplicate questions being asked time and time on here.
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Wow this is actually being quite a constructive thread... USEFUL ideas instead of *****ing about it all.. but yes some kind of mechanism in place to stop dodgy post.. then at least Forum Admins can say "We told you so"... or indeed the easiest way... and i'm going to whisper this... charge people which could unfortunately be the negative effect that XDA could force on us all..
I know they have put the built in search functionality into the Topic creation field (which has saved me a few times!), but there could be a little bit more as mentioned above.
I re-iterate... we dont want to lose any more devs.. and its the stupid few that ruin it for everybody, i have referred to XDA for a few years now and have found it such a useful resource, a good place to share ideas, help each other out and for Devs/Themers to show off their wares...
LONG LIVE XDA!

nutmegy said:
Wow this is actually being quite a constructive thread... USEFUL ideas instead of *****ing about it all.. but yes some kind of mechanism in place to stop dodgy post.. then at least Forum Admins can say "We told you so"... or indeed the easiest way... and i'm going to whisper this... charge people which could unfortunately be the negative effect that XDA could force on us all..
I know they have put the built in search functionality into the Topic creation field (which has saved me a few times!), but there could be a little bit more as mentioned above.
I re-iterate... we dont want to lose any more devs.. and its the stupid few that ruin it for everybody, i have referred to XDA for a few years now and have found it such a useful resource, a good place to share ideas, help each other out and for Devs/Themers to show off their wares...
LONG LIVE XDA!
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read my signature... use that if you want on your first post

Who is most deserving?

Okay, I was able to file a complaint through a channel that not only has allowed me to order the Nexus 6 I wanted, but also have it sent via free overnight FedEx to be delivered tomorrow... yes, on Saturday.
I was going to post how I did this, but felt it [maybe] unfair to the people who made it happen for me.
So, this leads me to the question: Of all of the people trying to buy this phone, who would truly benefit this community if they were able to get one? Also, who would keep this information confidential and not repost it for the whole community?
Now, I'm not saying this is guaranteed, but from the time I initiated contact, I had a call back within a few short hours, and was able to place an order over the phone.
Are there any developers who have been unable to get it, who would undoubtedly do some serious good by having one?
I hope no one takes this the wrong way. I have zero developing skills, and this is just a tiny way for me to do something for someone deserving since I've benefited so much from this community.

I see what you are trying to do OP.... Might be best to just send a pm next time
Sent from my NEXUS 6

I am not asking for donations. And this thread has been taken all wrong anyway.

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I am not asking for donations. And this thread has been taken all wrong anyway.
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Ok, I would vote for @franciscofranco. I believe he is still waiting for his and is supposed to be shipped Dec 15 from the UK.

obsanity said:
Ok, I would vote for @franciscofranco. I believe he is still waiting for his and is supposed to be shipped Dec 15 from the UK.
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Thank you! Ask him if he's willing to wait or if he wants to go this route and I'll PM him. Hell, I've used his kernels more than any other.

@franciscofranco is waiting for his to arrive, @rascarlo cant afford one. and he is a great deserving rom developer.

This thread breaks no rules that I am aware of.
If you do not like it, do not read it.
I understand what the OP is getting at.
He has not solicited thanks or donations, if he does then report the thread.
Thread cleaned. Now keep it clean please

simms22 said:
@franciscofranco is waiting for his to arrive, @rascarlo cant afford one. and he is a great deserving rom developer.
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I cannot afford to buy a 2nd one for someone, but am willing to share how I got mine. I know franco is direct and upfront with his words. I don't want to offend him by offering him this info. But if anyone who knows him wants to let him know to contact me, I couldn't think of many more deserving than him.

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Please watch your language. If this thread goes pear shaped I will close it. I am watching
I agree with offering the info to Franciscofranco cause he makes a hell of a kernel and keeps it well updated! I'm sure he'd like to get started.

I'd contact CarbonROM or Slim. Last I heard Carbon said they'd only support n6 if they won a phone as no maintainers had money for it.

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I'd contact CarbonROM or Slim. Last I heard Carbon said they'd only support n6 if they won a phone as no maintainers had money for it.
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Please understand what the OP is saying
He does not have a phone to give away
He just knows a way for people to get hold of one quickly, you still have to buy it. He is not selling his own phone.

This isnt even really ground breaking news, all he did was complain up the chain of command and like most execs they dont want to deal with it so in order to make the client happy they just take care of them. You mention they told you not to post online, yet you are doing just that. I honestly dont see the point of this thread, why dont you PM a few of the top developers and see if someone is interested. Its like you are playing a game and somehow you have to be entitled to get your super top secret information.
If it were up to me i would contact someone from Slim team, CM team, PA team, and OMNI team as those 4 are actually doing real development and dont just kang/piece together bits and pieces from every other rom out there.

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This isnt even really ground breaking news, all he did was complain up the chain of command and like most execs they dont want to deal with it so in order to make the client happy they just take care of them. You mention they told you not to post online, yet you are doing just that. I honestly dont see the point of this thread, why dont you PM a few of the top developers and see if someone is interested. Its like you are playing a game and somehow you have to be entitled to get your super top secret information.
If it were up to me i would contact someone from Slim team, CM team, PA team, and OMNI team as those 4 are actually doing real development and dont just kang/piece together bits and pieces from every other rom out there.
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Well, you have every right to feel that way, even as wrong as you are. The last thing I need to do is justify anything to you or anyone else. I've got a temper, and it has shown on here, but I'm not game player. Like others have said, if you don't like the post, leave it alone.

Well OP im no Dev but if youre willing to shed some light on just how you managed that you'd be the coolest person on xda.

why the sudden change of heart though? you originally said you'd share the info if the phone did indeed ship now you wanna have some sort of vote on who to give the info to? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57088617&postcount=6033
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Boom! Anyway, check back here Friday evening. Once I see my 64GB MB N6 "en route", as in "having left the care of its sender and in the hands of the carrier", I'll post how I got someone to listen to, respond, and sell me a phone, all within the same day.
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just sayin

How bout sharing it with a fellow WV native?

Somehow the thought of a smartphone in West Virginia is surreal to me.

Circaflex said:
why the sudden change of heart though? you originally said you'd share the info if the phone did indeed ship now you wanna have some sort of vote on who to give the info to? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57088617&postcount=6033
just sayin
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Yes, you're correct. I was overly excited and hadn't had time to think about it. And then.... I thought about it and how awesome this person on a small team was to me, and decided against it.
I have no problem with this thread being closed. It's obvious aside from the few who "got" what I was trying to do and posted suggestions, the rest have just whined or bickered on here.

In Desolation said:
Somehow the thought of a smartphone in West Virginia is surreal to me.
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As opposed to Tennessee...? Lol!

wvcadle said:
As opposed to Tennessee...? Lol!
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Born and raised in WV, moved to Tennessee 2 years ago. Grew up in Ravenswood.

Sprint Echoe Lollopop ROM v1

As a member of echoe I'm happy to announce the upcoming ROM from friedrich420 for Sprint devices
Sprint EchoePop v1
The ROM comes rooted, fully deodexed and is packed with AEL and other goodies. Upload is as of now so it's up very soon.
Also I'd like to clarify that the download is free to everyone and does not require any sign ups.
Have a great day everyone
Download when it's up....
MOD EDIT:
PLEASE USE GOOGLE TO SEARCH THE WEB FOR IT. IT WAS TEAM ECHOES DECISION TO DEPART FROM XDA, AS THERE IS NO SUPPORT FOR THEIR PRODUCT ON XDA. LINKS TO EXTERNAL SITES WILL NOT BE ALLOWED

Awesome cant wait!!!!

We are losing dev left and right. Thanks for the lp rom

TY,
Cant wait to try it, always like Echo roms on my S3........

KLPFL said:
We are losing dev left and right. Thanks for the lp rom
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lot another one(that just got here) this morning! :\

millerboy3 said:
lot another one(that just got here) this morning! :\
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I know.. Ax closed all his thread.. do like his work.

Another dev ?? Who I'm bringing my ROM when I'm off work its asop based on android 4.1
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Another dev ?? Who I'm bringing my ROM when I'm off work its asop based on android 5.1
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fj

Woohoo downloading now!!!
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millerboy3 said:
lot another one(that just got here) this morning! :\
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Miller did you really need to address this... is stuff like this why you stopped? Why cant you people just ignore this stuff... see the post call the guy a d head to yourself and move on... then the other guy had to say something also so the negative stuff is on blast now... i mean we live in a country wherr people voted for obama twice... do you realky expect anything less?
Us people who appreciate you. Tx. Axe. Spleef. Difital. Echo team far out number these guys! Like 10-1. Just ignore them..
Thank you ao much echo team for the rom!!!!!

Appreciate the work, can't wait to try the ROM.

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Woohoo downloading now!!!
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Miller did you really need to address this... is stuff like this why you stopped? Why cant you people just ignore this stuff... see the post call the guy a d head to yourself and move on... then the other guy had to say something also so the negative stuff is on blast now... i mean we live in a country wherr people voted for obama twice... do you realky expect anything less?
Us people who appreciate you. Tx. Axe. Spleef. Difital. Echo team far out number these guys! Like 10-1. Just ignore them..
Thank you ao much echo team for the rom!!!!!
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I'm not going to comment on the obama part. Politics is the fastest way to start flaming and other things on an open public forum. So I kindly ask you to leave politics out of EVERYTHING. (I am completely omitted from the following statements, as I'm not in any part a dev) As far as my expectations, they are MUCH higher than is occuring on these forums these days. These amazing teams make these roms/tools/and mods and are just insulted. Dev's don't need to be saying the same thing over and over again because some person that neglected to read the OP, the stickies, or use the search function (or google) to find the simple answer. This goes the same for PM'ing said dev's for the same things. This includes people wanting dev's to essentially make a PRIVATE BUILD for some individual because they are too lazy, too afraid to try, or just don't care to bother with making their own rom. Don't like 1 thing in someone's rom? Don't use it. Or learn to do/undo what is done that you do/don't like! Its very simple, especially if I can pull off putting a rom together from various mods from AMAZING dev's. I simply lost my patience, I'll go back to lurking the forums and continue my own builds privately. I certainly applaud the retired dev's I see hanging around that do just that. I understand the situation, to the extent that my rom was that of a mustard seed to the rest of these awesome guys. But I feel I understand, I see xda in a different light now, and I simply don't like it. THAT is why I had to adress this. Was this explosion post my intention? No. I would rather a coming dev/user know whats wrong and why, then get sideswiped by a good number of the users here and wonder where it came from. Honesty is the best policy my good sir.
I DEEPLY APOLOGIZE for echoe team for this going on in your thread. You do amazing work! I certainly appreciate everything you have done here at XDA and even now what you don't! You are the bigger men in the situation that has occurred and you are still here. Kudos for sure. Big thanks!

Downloading now.. 6 minutes left to be done... Thank you for the rom...
@millerboy I agreed with you. Used all the resource out there... ask when you exhausted all the resources... Personally I don't like private message.. I ignore other when they message me .... I attempted many times but no success (no a smart person when come to code).

Guys take the comments to pm and keep this thread clear. This ROM is so sweet, I've been running it since lunchtime. you guys should really give it a try.<br/>

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I'm not going to comment on the obama part. Politics is the fastest way to start flaming and other things on an open public forum. So I kindly ask you to leave politics out of EVERYTHING. (I am completely omitted from the following statements, as I'm not in any part a dev) As far as my expectations, they are MUCH higher than is occuring on these forums these days. These amazing teams make these roms/tools/and mods and are just insulted. Dev's don't need to be saying the same thing over and over again because some person that neglected to read the OP, the stickies, or use the search function (or google) to find the simple answer. This goes the same for PM'ing said dev's for the same things. This includes people wanting dev's to essentially make a PRIVATE BUILD for some individual because they are too lazy, too afraid to try, or just don't care to bother with making their own rom. Don't like 1 thing in someone's rom? Don't use it. Or learn to do/undo what is done that you do/don't like! Its very simple, especially if I can pull off putting a rom together from various mods from AMAZING dev's. I simply lost my patience, I'll go back to lurking the forums and continue my own builds privately. I certainly applaud the retired dev's I see hanging around that do just that. I understand the situation, to the extent that my rom was that of a mustard seed to the rest of these awesome guys. But I feel I understand, I see xda in a different light now, and I simply don't like it. THAT is why I had to adress this. Was this explosion post my intention? No. I would rather a coming dev/user know whats wrong and why, then get sideswiped by a good number of the users here and wonder where it came from. Honesty is the best policy my good sir.
I DEEPLY APOLOGIZE for echoe team for this going on in your thread. You do amazing work! I certainly appreciate everything you have done here at XDA and even now what you don't! You are the bigger men in the situation that has occurred and you are still here. Kudos for sure. Big thanks!
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Geez I can understand that if people are demanding private builds wow....
Team echo rom running awesome so far thank you so much for still building for us even though you left xda... that's so awesome of you guys!!! Mad mad thanx!!!!!

xyojimbox said:
Geez I can understand that if people are demanding private builds wow....
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You would be surprised what you get pm's for when building roms -_-
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Team echo rom running awesome so far thank you so much for still building for us even though you left xda... that's so awesome of you guys!!! Mad mad thanx!!!!!
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This.

hi
Just came by to say it's up... a bit late lol you all already know :good:
Seems like it's the same on every device. It starts nice and as soon as a device hits a certain number of owners (the mass market) the childish posts start. I can understand everyone who has been a victim of this and I think it has to be talked about. It is destroying a great platform... but as for now it is what it is.

Can we get an offical thread in the Development section?

ScottBroker said:
Can we get an offical thread in the Development section?
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Most likely not. But I'm pretty sure we can address things here.

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Most likely not. But I'm pretty sure we can address things here.
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Does this have the all black theme?

ScottBroker said:
Does this have the all black theme?
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I'm not sure. But if you look in settings under echo rom settings there is a ton of tw themes you can dl

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I'm not sure. But if you look in settings under echo rom settings there is a ton of tw themes you can dl
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I just see some TW launcher themes..... Like is there a way to shut off data speed in the status bar...?