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Well apparently the End of September has come and gone. So my questions is this, When will we get any update? I say end of October for the minor update and November for 2.2. Oh and guess what, T-Mobile UK missed their deadline for 2.2:
http://phandroid.com/2010/09/30/t-mobile-uk-misses-end-of-the-month-window-for-galaxy-s-froyo/
Amazing phone Samsung. ..yet this is just another thread of disappointment.
yep,
Either Samsung, Tmobile, or both really let us down
I say Samsung..since it's not their first time...but then again T-mobile don't have a good history either...looks like both.
Why blame everything on Samsung? Give me one good helluva reason. While they should probably deserve partial blame, T-Mobile makes the final call. If T-Mobile says no, then we don't get the update. Simple. Oh, one more thing, T-Mobile UK != T-Mobile USA.
I have no idea what the hell is going on with T-Mobile on releasing updates, but if it's quality over speed, then I will gladly wait unlike most people.
I'm angry at T-Mobile for not giving us any of the possible updates that Samsung made. It makes no since that the Vibrant has been out the longest in the states and hasn't had a single OTA.
I blame Samsung for lack of Froyo. If they can make it run on the tab, they can make it run on the phones. I can't be mad a T-Mobile for that considering no Galaxy S phone has an official Froyo update on it yet.
I wonder what's taking so long, the Tab is basically an 'oversized' Galaxy S (relatively speaking here). If it is working on the Tab it shouldn't take much to port it to the phones.
unless of course, it is held out on purpose so it would not cannibalize the sales of the Tab. Purely my guess.
Its not so bad that its late, its that T Mobile and Samsung haven't kept us updated. A small status or progress update would go a long way.
clivo360 said:
Its not so bad that its late, its that T Mobile and Samsung haven't kept us updated. A small status or progress update would go a long way.
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Second that
Do you not think them saying an OTA will be available soon, is keeping you posted? It was probably pushed back after that clusterfuck of an OTA for the Captivate.
I believe Samsung is full responsible of this situation.
Is not a secret that Samsung lacks on software support. Take the European Galaxy S the unlocked version. The devices came months before the Vibrant in the US and suffers the same stupid TouchWiz bugs and never got an update...
I believe we will be lucky if we see Froyo when Android 3.0 is available. (of course whoever still has a Vibrant by then).
For me that was my first and probably last Samsung device. Its a nice device but FULL of bugs with no a single sign of support... A complete let down for this high class hardware.
Imagine if we go.straight to 3.0?
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Imagine if we go.straight to 3.0?
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We will be lucky if we even get 3.0
Samsung has managed to bork every single update for every US Galaxy S device. Even when they hit the deadline with the Captivate, it didn't fix the issue everyone wanted it to fix. Then, they release the update on other networks, only to tell people "Whatever you do - DON'T download this!". It's a joke.
Guys, relax! Samsung has been telling us that the update is coming "soon" for the past two months, so it's coming "soon"! In other news, the unemployment rates will go down to their normal levels "soon" as well!
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Yeah, its disappointing that the update has taken so long, but nothing to cry over yet imo.
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Honestly we should have all expected this after how they handled the behold 2. I felt that a phone that was on all the major carriers would get tons of support, but alas....
Phone didn't work right on launch so bottom line it's samsungs fault.
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I got my update via Kies!
Now I wait for 2.2 LOL
This is what EVERYONE who had bought a Beyond, or other Samsung phones kept saying...
Basically that Samsung either breaks their promises, or doesn't deliver on them until way late.
I am going to start looking for a new device. This 2.1 phone should hold me over until the 3.0/Gingerbread devices start coming out.
I am not upset enough to avoid Samsung in the future, but HTC and Motorola will be my first choices.
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I believe Samsung is full responsible of this situation.
Is not a secret that Samsung lacks on software support. Take the European Galaxy S the unlocked version. The devices came months before the Vibrant in the US and suffers the same stupid TouchWiz bugs and never got an update...
I believe we will be lucky if we see Froyo when Android 3.0 is available. (of course whoever still has a Vibrant by then).
For me that was my first and probably last Samsung device. Its a nice device but FULL of bugs with no a single sign of support... A complete let down for this high class hardware.
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Never going to buy a Samsung phone again.
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Are they still that bad or have they improved? I would really love to get this phone, i really find the design amazing and the current software it seems to have on it wonderful. The battery life i've seen posts of seem to be great as well. The only thing stopping me is my concern for updates.
The last LG phone I owned was the thrill 3d phone. It was awful and I swore I would never get another. LG really stepped up their game and with this phone being across 4 major carriers I think they will try to stay on top of updates for a few months. Have no fear, the carriers will slow them down even more.
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Intub8 said:
The last LG phone I owned was the thrill 3d phone. It was awful and I swore I would never get another. LG really stepped up their game and with this phone being across 4 major carriers I think they will try to stay on top of updates for a few months. Have no fear, the carriers will slow them down even more.
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Since the international and US GSM version are supposedly the same hardware wise, maybe that means we'll just be able to flash international roms? Dodge the whole carrier bit.
Samsung and HTC were notorious for bad update policies. If you can't run with the dogs, stay on the porch. I have a feeling that LG will be fine in this area now.
I asked a similar question recently.
Developer support for ROMs and kernels are way better than official updates from a manufacturer. After a week we already have root, a custom ROM, and a way to flash kernels once a kernel dev comes around. I would say this phone will most likely have plenty of dev support because not many phones have so much activity and success just within the first week.
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Developer support for ROMs and kernels are way better than official updates from a manufacturer. After a week we already have root, a custom ROM, and a way to flash kernels once a kernel dev comes around. I would say this phone will most likely have plenty of dev support because not many phones have so much activity and success just within the first week.
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Exactly. Soonest possible update IMO from LG wouldn't even go into effect for another 6-8 months from now due to each carrier having their own way with releasing the updates. That's IF LG tried putting an update out 2 months from now, add another 6 months to that via carriers before release. Within 6 months i'm sure the dev community will be flying and already 5 steps ahead of LG's update, if any . Only thing Devs CAN'T do is update the firmware or OS to say 4.3, etc without LG officially doing this.
Hi guys,
I have a British Note 4, running BTU and I'm still waiting for Lollipop. Having owned many many devices over the last few years, I'm more than used to this waiting game, but it's getting a bit crazy now?
Lollipop was released a few weeks after the Note 4 was announced, we are now three, almost four months in to the following year and I'm yet to receive the update?
Poland, Samsung's Beta location received the update a long time ago. What's going on are there some serious Lollipop issues?
If you're running Exynos CPU then apparently were awaiting Intel to produce drivers for the radio. I have N910U international unbranded model and no update yet either, yet most carrier models are updated, very unusual. I feel you though, we are almost in to the 4th month of the year and I seem to recall SS mentioning GN4 will be receiving Android 5.0 shortly 6 months ago lol, oh well looks like I may consider the Saygus V2, beast of a phone!
I wish I could say that's the model I have but unfortunately it isn't! I'm running the N910F
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I'm using the same phone and I'm wondering exactly the same. Keep checking this forum nearly daily to see if there is any news but nothing. Must be coming soon tho.
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Lolipop update for Note 4 its official a failure!! I see HTC One M8 and LG G3 and Note 3 that i sold to buy the Note 4 with oficial updates and my Note 4 on 4.4.4
Worst... no oficial word on the subject by Samsung.
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If you're running Exynos CPU then apparently were awaiting Intel to produce drivers for the radio. I have N910U international unbranded model and no update yet either, yet most carrier models are updated, very unusual. I feel you though, we are almost in to the 4th month of the year and I seem to recall SS mentioning GN4 will be receiving Android 5.0 shortly 6 months ago lol, oh well looks like I may consider the Saygus V2, beast of a phone!
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At last someone asked this question, I was wondering why no one has asked this already!
Samsung should update us
note 3s are being updated etc ...but most unlocked carrier free international phone still no update.....Samsung should say something like we are sorting out bugs but we plan to release it within the next few weeks.
the way they are doing it now doesn't help create a good brand
Although hard every company should be like Apple when it comes to software updates. Everyone should get it at the same time.
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The G version we have down here in Australia is in the same boat. Until every component is built in house (applies to any manufacturer) then software updates for every model variation won't be possible. Sucks but usually comes with the option of choice.
The UK is one of the countries which has the gear VR and that might be the reason for the delay as the UK note 4 has to work with the gear VR on lollipop and is waiting for oculus update.
No one gives a flying you know what about Gear VR, its a poor excuse to prolong an update so that SS can release S6 in hope (we whom remain pre updated and with bugs) that we jump ship!
Deplorable and unforgivable!
Another lost customer here Samdung, better to not bull**** consumers when releasing products!
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No one gives a flying you know what about Gear VR, its a poor excuse to prolong an update so that SS can release S6 in hope (we whom remain pre updated and with bugs) that we jump ship!
Deplorable and unforgivable!
Another lost customer here Samdung, better to not bull**** consumers when releasing products!
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Calm down mate. The only thing I don't get, is how come you're on XDA developers forum and still doesn't have lollipop? I'm on ee and have dirty flashed with Odin first German and now that new Dutch rom and it's all good. UK is important market for Sammy, hence I guess they want to make sure everything is buttoned up before proper release. DBT rom wasn't good, that's why they stopped rollout.
homer285 said:
No one gives a flying you know what about Gear VR, its a poor excuse to prolong an update so that SS can release S6 in hope (we whom remain pre updated and with bugs) that we jump ship!
Deplorable and unforgivable!
Another lost customer here Samdung, better to not bull**** consumers when releasing products!
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You really think that people are going to change their phone just because the new one has the latest lollipop? Surely you would have to be an idiot to that.
Hey guys are we really rushing lollipop on T-mobile. With all these US carriers talking about bugs in the latest version why would we even want it right now. 5.0 No 5.1 YES. I have a great running 5.0 rom running now but yes the battery isn't that great, yes it's gets hot, yes it takes longer to boot, yes my LTE is spotty at times, yes my WiFi isn't as strong at kit Kat. Am I alone on this one? Read the below article. The U.S. carriers isn't the only ones with the problem.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/4...es-continue-as-some-carrier-testing-fails.htm
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Hey guys are we really rushing lollipop on T-mobile. With all these US carriers talking about bugs in the latest version why would we even want it right now. 5.0 No 5.1 YES. I have a great running 5.0 rom running now but yes the battery isn't that great, yes it's gets hot, yes it takes longer to boot, yes my LTE is spotty at times, yes my WiFi isn't as strong at kit Kat. Am I alone on this one? Read the below article. The U.S. carriers isn't the only ones with the problem.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/4...es-continue-as-some-carrier-testing-fails.htm
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IBTL:highfive:
I like cheese.
for me, I'm in no rush. unless lollipop fixes this extremely laggy phone I can care less. this phone, as powerful as the specs say it is, is a slow, laggy, bad camera POS. I'm eligible for jump on 9/25 and it cannot come soon enough. I had a Moto X before this, and I was happy with it. the Note 4 is full of disappointment. I don't see how all of the early reviews were so positive for it, the moto x had embarrassing specs but performed perfect, the camera wasn't good but I preferred it over this one, at least it opened and focused quickly.
I still wouldnt call it a "rush" though when its the slowest to market.
Most of these articles make me like tmo even more. I can wait for greatness. I think sprint use to watch xda closely because some how after every update leak that had problems and xda devs fixed them sprint would release a newer update with those problems gone lol gotta love xda
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for me, I'm in no rush. unless lollipop fixes this extremely laggy phone I can care less. this phone, as powerful as the specs say it is, is a slow, laggy, bad camera POS. I'm eligible for jump on 9/25 and it cannot come soon enough. I had a Moto X before this, and I was happy with it. the Note 4 is full of disappointment. I don't see how all of the early reviews were so positive for it, the moto x had embarrassing specs but performed perfect, the camera wasn't good but I preferred it over this one, at least it opened and focused quickly.
I still wouldnt call it a "rush" though when its the slowest to market.
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Flash Dynamic Pop or Dynamic Kat and it'll change your mind about the phone.
I have been using the unmodified port of SM-N910W8 Lollipop firmware (http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...t-unmodified-port-sm-n910w8-lollipop-t3072920) for a while now and it has made my phone better. That said i rather wait for the tmo version without bugs instead of right now and render my phone unusable. Also there are many 5.0 roms already out which are infinite better than anything tmo can ever gives us .
racer83l said:
for me, I'm in no rush. unless lollipop fixes this extremely laggy phone I can care less. this phone, as powerful as the specs say it is, is a slow, laggy, bad camera POS. I'm eligible for jump on 9/25 and it cannot come soon enough. I had a Moto X before this, and I was happy with it. the Note 4 is full of disappointment. I don't see how all of the early reviews were so positive for it, the moto x had embarrassing specs but performed perfect, the camera wasn't good but I preferred it over this one, at least it opened and focused quickly.
I still wouldnt call it a "rush" though when its the slowest to market.
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Bad camera??? Laggy??? I dunno what phone you're using, but my Note 4 has an AWESOME camera and is faster/smoother than anything I've ever used before. Are you you running straight stock with no root, mods, etc?
You are not alone my friend. As much as I love them. .I finally flashed rapture again last night. Developers are limited as far as how great they can make touch wiz....Samsung as limited because Google dropped a messed up os to begin with its a shame really
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You are not alone my friend. As much as I love them. .I finally flashed rapture again last night. Developers are limited as far as how great they can make touch wiz....Samsung as limited because Google dropped a messed up os to begin with its a shame really
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I agree. Samsung should not push lollipop to anyphones unless google irons out all the bugs. Right now 5.0.1 or 5.0.2 is out for most. But why not wait for stable OS from google as nexus users will be the testers for us.
Also samsung needs to do lot of testing on stable OS from google because of TW skin
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I agree. Samsung should not push lollipop to anyphones unless google irons out all the bugs. Right now 5.0.1 or 5.0.2 is out for most. But why not wait for stable OS from google as nexus users will be the testers for us.
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To be fair it's not like Apple and Microsoft put out perfect OS's right out of the box. Granted Apple is a different model but software is software, at some point the decision has to be made to release, bugs and all.
I have become so used to cm12 and now 12.1 and very happy that honestly dont see myself bothering with the official when ever its released
I like orange peanuts. ....oh and I'm loving the modified Canadian Lollipop port!
OTA
I spoke with my friend who works for TMO he told me that they had been testing show failed it has reported back to Samsung takes little longer. He thinks it will release out in late summer. I am disappointed. I wish I had kept note 3 (N900T)
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Flash Dynamic Pop or Dynamic Kat and it'll change your mind about the phone.
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Very true statement here... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ :good::good::good:
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I have become so used to cm12 and now 12.1 and very happy that honestly dont see myself bothering with the official when ever its released
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Is Bluetooth working on it? 12.1 I mean also how's the battery. .last I tried it sucked bad
I agree with a lot of what was said here, but if you're on XDA, why not root and flash a custom ROM if you're unhappy with your phone? I've tried at least 4 ROMs for the Note 4 (and many more with the Note 3) and have found at least a couple are almost perfect and most have been far superior to stock in every way. And I'm just talking about normal performance; with root you also have the ability to add and subtract apps and features and theme your device and truly make it yours. With a custom ROM and all the options and performance root brings, we really won't need to update for years from the current OS. But if Samsung would lighten up TouchWiz, the updates would come faster.
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You are not alone my friend. As much as I love them. .I finally flashed rapture again last night. Developers are limited as far as how great they can make touch wiz....Samsung as limited because Google dropped a messed up os to begin with its a shame really
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G4???? Lmao
BAD ASS NOTE 4
So some people are not happy and wish to stay with their old phones or even want to sell the note because an incremental update is late. LOL, that's f**king absurd.
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G4???? Lmao
BAD ASS NOTE 4
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Haha u getting it?!?! That camera!
Talk now is the S6 will be getting Android 7 soon, the S8 will be out in a few months and yet Samsung is sitting back releasing Android 7 through a bottle neck...........if they want to treat customers in this manner fine but I wont be party to it again, like last year when other countries and networks got Android 6 before the BTU beta users!
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Talk now is the S6 will be getting Android 7 soon, the S8 will be out in a few months and yet Samsung is sitting back releasing Android 7 through a bottle neck...........if they want to treat customers in this manner fine but I wont be party to it again, like last year when other countries and networks got Android 6 before the BTU beta users!
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Well you could argue a few ways.
One - would you rather have rushed software with bugs, or tested software that works?
Two - there are a few models from the Samsung line so newer should get priority over older.
Three - Samsung should release less devices to show work on upgrades for existing users. Most people will upgrade at end of contract, which in most cases is 18 months to two years. So having a new product every two years will lead to better tech than the predecessor and a more unified user base with devices and more satisfied customers.
Sadly, business works on ever growing profit margins, so having a two year gap in growth would look bad for investors and other companies could surpass Samsung in growth in that time making the new models cost more to make up the previous years loss.
You could argue yes but its even out of the Oneplus 3 now, I wont be wasting hundreds with Samsung again..........oh and it wasn't really an argument you gave because Samsung has tested it, their just dripping the final release so only a handful of people have it
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Talk now is the S6 will be getting Android 7 soon, the S8 will be out in a few months and yet Samsung is sitting back releasing Android 7 through a bottle neck...........if they want to treat customers in this manner fine but I wont be party to it again, like last year when other countries and networks got Android 6 before the BTU beta users!
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Me too. I regret my decision of choosing S7E over Pixel now.
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Well, I'm going to post from the other side of the tacks on this one. I came to the S7 Edge from a 6P. I was even part of the beta program and got updates faster than anyone else. You know what? Whoopdeedo. There was nothing even in the last release version of N (7.1.1) that I had on the 6P that this S7 Edge can't and didn't already do long before it was put into vanilla Android. The upgrade to N will come to the S7 Edge shortly. Even here in Canada where updates seem to take forever from carriers, it is noted as coming soon, so we should see it in the next month or so.
But really, this phone is already performing so much better for me that the 6P ever did and has everything software wise and more than I ever had with straight N Android. Not sure why the updates are seemingly so important to some. This phone works great right now and my battery life is off the charts compared to the 6P on the latest version of N. Besides, N is coming to our phones shortly as well. As someone mentioned above, because it is taking longer, at least it won't be riddled with bugs and battery drain like on the 6P for me.
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You could argue yes but its even out of the Oneplus 3 now, I wont be wasting hundreds with Samsung again..........oh and it wasn't really an argument you gave because Samsung has tested it, their just dripping the final release so only a handful of people have it
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It wasn't an argument. I was just giving an explanation on the possible scenarios.
You have to understand that carriers may release their updates later than Samsung., even thigh Samsung have tested.
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Besides, N is coming to our phones.
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Yes we've been told this since December
Just wait. It's not hard, the update will come when it is due. If you are that eager for it then flash the BTU version. Samsung has their own way of releasing software, just like every other OEM.
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Yes we've been told this since December
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Well, don't speak for everyone. I'm with Rogers here in Canada and they JUST posted "Coming Soon" on their website. So it's only been about a week or so since my carrier has said it is coming. Not Samsung's fault the carriers take forever to get their crap in there and test their version.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tech/news/575565/Android-Nougat-Samsung-Galaxy-S7-update-release-date
Like I said I wont be giving hundreds to a supplier that extracts the urine like this, I might even get the Oneplus 4 when its out, they've released it for the 3 now
I got fed up waiting for Singapore to update to Nougat, so I just flashed, with Odin, the Malaysian Nougat update, using my Home CSC. Worked perfectly, not data lost. My phone is not rooted
Well, the unlocked version in US is independent on carriers and does not has Nougat yet. It is not the carrier's fault if Samsung has multiple versions of the same phone and decides to update only a subset of all the versions.
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No doubt there are bugs they can't fix and that's the real question: why samsung with their multimillion budget to hire skilled devs can't provide quality software update in time? Not to mention how many people replaced they catching fire note 7 with s7e... good strategy to treat all of them like that. Let's not forget that in 2017 even the normal user is becoming more and more aware about updates and their importance about his experience. After all, they can afford to hire more than one A team working on their flagship phone and attach it to s7/s7e development. If the patch BTU update works well I can guess they will start to roll out around the mid/end next week. Still, for me this is a really bad rollout, especially if we consider the beta test period.
dude stop whining and get a custom rom. ive been having nougat for over a week on my s7e now
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dude stop whining and get a custom rom. ive been having nougat for over a week on my s7e now
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Is there a custom rom for the Snapdragon version witg Nougat? Don't think so. If there is, will be happy to install.
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