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Ok, so i love Motorola as a company, despite the recent hate (which is not justified in my opinion), i love all their products and i think they are great. I owned a Moto G 1st gen and bought the Moto G 2nd gen right after the launch and loving it even more after Android L update, so i have a wish list for the next gen
If they want to dominate the mid range phone segment and make a killer smartphone i would recommend the next wish list, i don't know if it is possible for the price, so here it is:
Display: 5” - 5.5" full HD IPS 1080 x 1920 pixels
Processor: Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 615 octa-core chipset (MSM8939) 64-bit
GPU: Adreno 405
RAM: 2 GB A MUST!
Storage: 16GB, microSD card slot, up to 64GB
Camera: 8 Megapixel Rear Camera, 2MP Front Camera
Battery: 2700 mAh
Software: Android L or latest
Dual front facing speakers
And all the conectivity, GPS, microUSB 2.0, Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth etc.
For the same price! Or max 200$
What do you guys think? Is it possible?
You are pretty much describing the Moto X, but at the price of a Moto G.
I'd say 5-5,2", 720p screen, Snapdragon 410, LTE , 16GB ROM, 2GB RAM, camera stabilizer, microSD, 2700 mAh battery. So the same thing with a bit of an improvement in the processor, LTE, more RAM, more battery and stabilization for the camera; exactly what the Moto G 2nd Gen lacks of.
Just more RAM - 2 GB would be the best possible improvement. With the other specifications I am ok actually.
I only add more RAM and 64bits processor
And LTE By default for all models
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2GB Ram
Snapdragon 615
LTE
Adreno 405
2400 mAh battery
That would keep it competitive with newer mid-range phones coming out.
Keep the screen the same. Camera could use some improvement, but I don't want a bump in price, so I could do without that. I don't even mind 8GB internal since it has an SD slot.
andreu24 said:
You are pretty much describing the Moto X, but at the price of a Moto G.
I'd say 5-5,2", 720p screen, Snapdragon 410, LTE , 16GB ROM, 2GB RAM, camera stabilizer, microSD, 2700 mAh battery. So the same thing with a bit of an improvement in the processor, LTE, more RAM, more battery and stabilization for the camera; exactly what the Moto G 2nd Gen lacks of.
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Moto x 2nd gen has a snapdragon 801 32-bit processor and a amoled display where are they the same? Please point the similarities here is the spec list of the X 2nd gen http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x_(2014)-6649.php
Well, I meant "a" Moto X. I just don't see it happening for 179-200$ and those specs are high-end, so if you wanted something similar you should be looking for a Moto X. It'd cost you, but you aren't getting this at that price.
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Well, I meant "a" Moto X. I just don't see it happening for 179-200$ and those specs are high-end, so if you wanted something similar you should be looking for a Moto X. It'd cost you, but you aren't getting this at that price.
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The price for those components will drop by the end of the year when the Moto G 2015 wil come out, look at this phones, and you will see it is possible Zenfone 2 http://www.androidauthority.com/asus-zenfone-2-hands-first-impressions-579187/ 200$ for the base model, ZTE Blade S6 $250 and you get Lollipop, Snapdragon 615, LTE, and a 13MP camera http://www.androidauthority.com/zte-blade-s6-price-specs-features-583086/
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Well, I meant "a" Moto X. I just don't see it happening for 179-200$ and those specs are high-end, so if you wanted something similar you should be looking for a Moto X. It'd cost you, but you aren't getting this at that price.
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Those really aren't high end specs in 2015, that's similar to what the next crop of already announced midrange phones is offering. Component are getting cheaper and the mid-range market is more competitive now than when the first Moto G came out.
An OLED FHD display would be nice, especially for the night mode so the smartphone can finally be used as a suitable nighstand alarm clock without that awful background light all the current smartphones are emitting... !!!
Other than the above:
64bit 4/8 core CPU
2GB of LPDDR4 RAM
16GB ROM
Gorilla Glass 4
Replaceable 3200 mAh Li-ion or Supercapacitor
8-12 Mp Camera with stabilization and depth sensor
2-5 Mp Front facing camera
5"-5.1" FHD OLED display
Better stereo front speakers
And maybe a little less plastic for the housing
My wishlist would be basically slightly upgraded Moto G LTE
4.5" screen
2Gb ram
Larger battery
Better camera
8GB ROM with microSD slot.
Wireless charging.
Sidenote, I'm not convinced that Moto G needs to over 5" screensize because one of it's strongest selling points aside from clean OS is that there are very few options in it's size group unless you go for used and/or older models. For example, Samsung's compact models are really underwhelming while Sony's offerings are very expensive, then you have random budget-brands which I wouldn't touch even with a 10-foot pole. LG has couple models that are pretty close, but display resolution is disappointing.
if thats what the 2015 moto g is going to have, im leaving the flagship, sorry, this is my choice
As per the specs u want be ready to pay heavily as u have described a Moto gen X 2
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And by considering the specs suggested by some members i think it will beat the price of Nexus 6 or Moto X 2 . lol
Display
- 5.4 Inch
- AMOLED Capacitive Touchscreen, 16M
- 1440 x 2560, 543.93 Pixels Per Inch
- Corning Gorilla Glass 4
Hardware
- Qualcomm Snapdragon 810
- Quad-core 2.7 GHz Krait 450
- Adreno 430
Battery
- 2700 mAh
- Quick Charge 2.0
- Non Removable
Memory
- 32/64 GB On Board
- 2.5 GB Ram
Camera
- 16 MP Primary (2988 x 5312)
- 4 MP Secondary, Wide Angle Self Portrait
- 4k Video Recording
- Slow Motion Video Recording
- Dual Ring Flash
- OIS, Auto Focus
Speakers
- Dual Front Facing Speakers
Body
- Motorola Dimple / Fingerprint Scanner
- 9.0 mm
- Aluminum Frame
Additonals
- Gold Aluminum Frame (Option)
- More Custom Backings
- Completely Customizable Backing
- Improvement in Low-light Picture Quality
- Better Image Processing
- More Features In Moto Suite
Price
- $599 Off Contract
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I plan on getting it. However, I'm very happy with my 2014 X and will wait till the price drops a bit.
Doubt there will be a fingerprint scanner...Moto's head guy isn't a fan of it. I'll be selling my 2014 for the 2015
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Dont think they'll go QuadHD. That would drive prices up and moto found a nice market for now. They're not that stablished yet. Also I think the 16GB is gone and no MSD, that would "kill" moto design for the X. Unless moto comes up with a trully insane new phone, I'll remain on my 2014. This thing is still a beast
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With that specs + the amazing smothness of the 2nd gen it will be awesome, hope they'll have aluminum back at moto maker
Furieuxariel2 said:
With that specs + the amazing smothness of the 2nd gen it will be awesome, hope they'll have aluminum back at moto maker
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Yes Absolutely
matt99017d said:
I plan on getting it. However, I'm very happy with my 2014 X and will wait till the price drops a bit.
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Me Too, I Plan On Waiting Until Christmas OF This Year Maybe They'll Have A Holiday Sell
These types of threads are so stupid
I wish moto change amoled to IPS
If the screen goes any bigger than 5.2in, I definitely won't be getting it.
rjayflo said:
Doubt there will be a fingerprint scanner...Moto's head guy isn't a fan of it. I'll be selling my 2014 for the 2015
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The n6 was supposed to have a fingerprint scanner but it was ditched. So, it is possible that the next Moto X will have it
I don't like the screen size. 5.2 inches max. I'll definitely be passing this one because 810 processor
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If anyone's interested, Amazon is apparently offering the Moto X 2014 for $199 new right now.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00MW...sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165&keywords=Moto+x+2014
I would argue that the X right now is still a better deal than the 2015 G, given that it has the faster (though older) processor, slightly older but far less noisy camera and Moto Voice, as well as a metal frame. Just be sure that Android updates beyond Marshmallow aren't top priority.
AB__CD said:
If anyone's interested, Amazon is apparently offering the Moto X 2014 for $199 new right now.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00MW...sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165&keywords=Moto+x+2014
I would argue that the X right now is still a better deal than the 2015 G, given that it has the faster (though older) processor, slightly older but far less noisy camera and Moto Voice, as well as a metal frame. Just be sure that Android updates beyond Marshmallow aren't top priority.
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I just saw it today... do you think is a good upgrade over a Nexus 5? Or should I wait for something better?
blanco2701 said:
I just saw it today... do you think is a good upgrade over a Nexus 5? Or should I wait for something better?
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If you're upgrading from the Nexus 5, I'd advise you actually wait for something better, or spend a bit more and get the 5X. You're getting a similar screen (same res, roughly same size, but now AMOLED), a slightly more powerful chip (but that's honestly splitting hairs) and a just as inconsistent camera. The only real upgrades here are the build and slightly newer stuff inside, and unless that's worth $199 to you, then wait.
This is more for people who are upgrading from anything older than 2013 (flagship) or 2014 (midrange), where the difference is going to jump. But from a nexus 5 it's not going to be significant enough in my opinion.
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If anyone's interested, Amazon is apparently offering the Moto X 2014 for $199 new right now.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00MW...sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165&keywords=Moto+x+2014
I would argue that the X right now is still a better deal than the 2015 G, given that it has the faster (though older) processor, slightly older but far less noisy camera and Moto Voice, as well as a metal frame. Just be sure that Android updates beyond Marshmallow aren't top priority.
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Per Amazon it is running 5.0:
Product Dimensions: Height: 140.8mm (5.54 inches) Width: 72.4mm (2.85 inches) Curve: 3.8-9.9mm (0.15-0.39 inches)
Operating System: Android 5.0 Lollipop
Display: 5.2" AMOLED, 1080p FULL HD 1920x1080, 423 ppi, Corning Gorilla Glass 3
Weight: 144 grams (5.08 ounces)
Battery: 2300 mAh Mixed usage up to 24 hours
Processor: Motorola Mobile Computing System including 2.5GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 with quad-core CPU (MSM 8974-AC), Adreno 330 @ 578 MHz GPU, Natural Language Processor, Contextual Computing Processor
Memory: 2GB
Camera: Rear: 13MP F2.25 Front: 2MP (1080p)
Connectivity: Micro USB, 3.5mm headset jack
Bluetooth Technology: Bluetooth version 4.0 LE
SIM Card: Nano-SIM
Networks: GSM/GPRS/EDGE, UMTS/HSPA+, 4G LTE
It also doesn't state model but one of the user questions is answered as it being XT1095.
If it is on 5.0 one should be able to root via Mofo and unlock bootloader via Sunshine.
I agree that this phone would be a better deal than the 2015 G.
My resale value! :/
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Just got this amazon deal... Its a XT1095 loaded with 4.4.4
Actually, from what I've read so far, the 5X camera is actually pretty good it seems. So I agree. Spend a little more and get the 5X. Plus the big advantage... Updates.
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Lenovo Vibe X3.
# 5.5 inch IPS LCD screen
# 3600 mAh battery
# 21mp back camera
# similar build and design
What's better? Dual front facing speakers with Dolby Atmos. Snapdragon 808. Fingerprint scanner. 3GB RAM. Gyro.
Well, with Lenovo software. No, thanks.
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bobyn said:
Well, with Lenovo software. No, thanks.
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Ha. True. Most ppl who buy moto for its software. Vibe ui is not appealing
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pijes said:
Lenovo Vibe X3.
# 5.5 inch IPS LCD screen
# 3600 mAh battery
# 21mp back camera
# similar build and design
What's better? Dual front facing speakers with Dolby Atmos. Snapdragon 808. Fingerprint scanner. 3GB RAM. Gyro.
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Particularly for me as a user who doesn't play games, SD 615 is good enough.
Fingerprint sensor is for the time being just for securing your phone.
I don't feel absence of gyro sensor.
Stereo speakers yeah feel it's absence but even the single one of mxp is loud enough. ?
Moreover the stock android is for what I bought mxp.
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Stock Android and Xda Development is the reason why you should stick with Moto X
bobyn said:
Well, with Lenovo software. No, thanks.
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You know Lenovo owns Motorola
Sure I know. But they better go the other direction - make Lenovo like Motorola. Not the opposite.
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Lenovo is way bigger overseas, Motorola is small potatoes compared to Samsung or Apple
pijes said:
Lenovo Vibe X3.
# 5.5 inch IPS LCD screen
# 3600 mAh battery
# 21mp back camera
# similar build and design
What's better? Dual front facing speakers with Dolby Atmos. Snapdragon 808. Fingerprint scanner. 3GB RAM. Gyro.
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I used to buy and use a Lenovo phone, so have to say that it's good enough to ignore complaints from people who haven't tried it before.
About Vibe X3 vs X Play
- If you take much time on taking pictures with good captures I'd recommend X Play
- If you you spend most of your time playing games, I'd recommend both (scaled scores: 8.5 for Vibe & 8 for X Play)
- If you plan to grab version updates, I'd recommend X Play (Lenevo is quite lazy to keep their devices on tree of updates)
- It's plain to see that Vibe X3 going along with better performance with snap 808 in comparison with snap 615 from X Play; 3BG of Ram much more than 2GB of X Play.
Finally, if you don't much care on the logo appeared in your phone, just grab what you like.
:fingers-crossed:
vibe p1 may be better,5000mah battery
According to latest leaks from certification sites the moto g6+ is supposed to feature:
1. SD 630
2. 4GB - 32 GB, 6GB - 64GB
3. 12 MP f/1.7 + 5 MP f/1.9 - rear camera
4. 16 MP f/1.9 F Front camera
5. IP67, NFC
6. 5.9" 18:9 full hd+
So why Moto X4 didn't get a wider (f1.7) aperture primary lens, although being a pricey phone?
It feels bad that a relatively cheaper g6+ would take better low light shots
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According to latest leaks from certification sites the moto g6+ is supposed to feature:
1. SD 630
2. 4GB - 32 GB, 6GB - 64GB
3. 12 MP f/1.7 + 5 MP f/1.9 - rear camera
4. 16 MP f/1.9 F Front camera
5. IP67, NFC
6. 5.9" 18:9 full hd+
So why Moto X4 didn't get a wider (f1.7) aperture primary lens, although being a pricey phone?
It feels bad that a relatively cheaper g6+ would take better low light shots
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even g5+ had f1.7. and a better imx362 sensor. :laugh:
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even g5+ had f1.7. and a better imx362 sensor. :laugh:
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That's what I'm trying to know, why are lower priced g series phones have better camera?
hpgramani said:
That's what I'm trying to know, why are lower priced g series phones have better camera?
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because motorola management is really stupid. it's not just hardware, even the software side has very stupid decisions. like 1080p60 on g5+ uses 4k stream, which is really sharp and high quality compared to what their other phones use.
it's stupid, that's all i can say.
Actually aperture is just a small part in this overall picture. I have both X4 and Z2 Play (which has 1.7 aperture) and you know what ?
The pictures I like most come either from X4 with Google Camera mod, or - when we are at Z2 Play - from Hasselblad Moto Mod which has 3.5 aperture.
OIS is what does best job.
Well I think the only thing I would've liked is 6GB of RAM right out of the gate but that would've hurt the Z2 Play sales for sure.
Regarding the camera you're not taking into account one thing: the Moto X4 sensor has 1.4 micron pixels in the sensor, which cannot be said for the G5+. So the 0.3 aperture you're losing you gain it back with bigger pixels. Also we're still talking about mobile phones camera so results will ALWAYS be mediocre in low light. In low light photos from a 2018 200$ Honor/Huawei phone are almost indistinguishable from photos taken with the Galaxy S9. Luckly tech is getting better and cheaper so don't be salty about a number on a spec sheet.
big brands are always overpriced and lag behind brands like huawei and xiaomi especially.
they devise market schemes so people would replace their phones more quickly. and the same or better phoneparts are now cheaper for manufacturers than 6months ago.
the only thing i really hate about the moto x4 is no treble. meaning more bugs and less diversity in 3rd party roms.
Most of the dialogue on the thread so far is about camera differences vs. other phones. So far, so good.
I am considering g6 vs. x4 as my next daily driver, either with Project Fi or directly with T-Mobile (my current provider). From the Moto line, Fi requires either G6, x4, or AndroidOne x4.
Apart from the camera and the purchase price, what other reasons would you consider to favor g6 or x4, especially with Project Fi?
Best regards,
moto x4 has better image quality in certain aspects just look at the comparison.
https://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=9001&idPhone2=8634
squanchy said:
moto x4 has better image quality in certain aspects just look at the comparison.
https://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=9001&idPhone2=8634
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Yeah certainly X4 is ahead in most of the areas