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Just taking some time to share this fresh review with you guys. Enjoy.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8523/the-new-motorola-moto-x-2014-review
joelteixeira said:
Just taking some time to share this fresh review with you guys. Enjoy.
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Thanks for posting... As we can expect from AT, it was a more technically oriented review and had some of their usual good insights at the component level. Maybe the technical slant of their reviews colored the conclusion, but I felt the review didn't speak enough to the overall strength of the user experience. Not that it was a bad review - it definitely covered the quantitative aspects of the battery, screen, camera and SOC performance - but I think what was missing was balancing that against the experience of actually using the Moto X as a phone.
My plan is to jump on one in another month or two after my current contract expires, so for me there's time to wait for more reviews from actual users to get a true picture.
dstr72 said:
Thanks for posting... As we can expect from AT, it was a more technically oriented review and had some of their usual good insights at the component level. Maybe the technical slant of their reviews colored the conclusion, but I felt the review didn't speak enough to the overall strength of the user experience. Not that it was a bad review - it definitely covered the quantitative aspects of the battery, screen, camera and SOC performance - but I think what was missing was balancing that against the experience of actually using the Moto X as a phone.
My plan is to jump on one in another month or two after my current contract expires, so for me there's time to wait for more reviews from actual users to get a true picture.
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I tend to agree with you. It is easy to criticize someone on the choices they make but you have to appreciate the effort that they have put in. They may not have made the best android phone but they have gotten a lot of things right. Moto X 2013 was my favorite phone last year since it was a good balance between all the things I wanted in a phone and after going through everything from S5 to M8, I'm hoping Moto X 2014 will be the perfect balance one more time. IMHO, of course.
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I tend to agree with you. It is easy to criticize someone on the choices they make but you have to appreciate the effort that they have put in. They may not have made the best android phone but they have gotten a lot of things right. Moto X 2013 was my favorite phone last year since it was a good balance between all the things I wanted in a phone and after going through everything from S5 to M8, I'm hoping Moto X 2014 will be the perfect balance one more time. IMHO, of course.
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I agree
These battery tests with scripts are not even real world usage, no matter what they say. Scripts running could bring in other factors, like wakelocks, blah blah blah. So it boils down to users, and their usage. I am betting it'll be fine with me
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I agree
These battery tests with scripts are not even real world usage, no matter what they say. Scripts running could bring in other factors, like wakelocks, blah blah blah. So it boils down to users, and their usage. I am betting it'll be fine with me
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+1, I would be happier with a bigger battery but I'm fine with 2.300mha. According to extensive reviews I saw already I don't believe battery would be a problem but yes I'm worried about the camera. I saw a lot of noise of sample pictures and I take a lot of photos of my children. I'm not saying the camera is bad, it is really great for the price but if I could pay a little more and get a better camera I'd do it right away.
Because of camera I'm thinking about Galaxy Note 4. Great cam and great screen but I had a Galaxy s4 before and I, like many others, dislike touchwiz and the slow updates. Right now I don't know exactly what to do, the price of moto x is extremely appealing and Android L won't take long to show up. I'm fine with battery, I'm fine with the single speaker (it's on front anyway) but the camera is holding me back. Maybe not for so long - but I want to check more sample pictures before jump on the boat.
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+1, I would be happier with a bigger battery but I'm fine with 2.300mha. According to extensive reviews I saw already I don't believe battery would be a problem but yes I'm worried about the camera. I saw a lot of noise of sample pictures and I take a lot of photos of my children. I'm not saying the camera is bad, it is really great for the price but if I could pay a little more and get a better camera I'd do it right away.
Because of camera I'm thinking about Galaxy Note 4. Great cam and great screen but I had a Galaxy s4 before and I, like many others, dislike touchwiz and the slow updates. Right now I don't know exactly what to do, the price of moto x is extremely appealing and Android L won't take long to show up. I'm fine with battery, I'm fine with the single speaker (it's on front anyway) but the camera is holding me back. Maybe not for so long - but I want to check more sample pictures before jump on the boat.
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I feel you. The camera isn't that bad, when I saw pics. It depends on the lighting. But maybe consider buying a small, cheap camera? Moto X + cheap camera = a Note 4 probably. But having two devices is a cause of concern, so I understand
My battery on my n4 is 2100mah and it can't even get half of what Moto X gets. That's pretty good to me, since n4 battery is only 200mah less
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I feel you. The camera isn't that bad, when I saw pics. It depends on the lighting. But maybe consider buying a small, cheap camera? Moto X + cheap camera = a Note 4 probably. But having two devices is a cause of concern, so I understand
My battery on my n4 is 2100mah and it can't even get half of what Moto X gets. That's pretty good to me, since n4 battery is only 200mah less
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You're absolutely right, having two devices is exactly the problem to me. And don't get me wrong, when I talk to much about the camera maybe seems like I want a fantastic and ultimate quality camera but something on par with GS4 that is two years old now or more would be perfect fine to me. I'm complaining but in the end I think I'll do get a moto x. Like we said before, it's not the best android available but when you see the big picture it's a really great and balanced set.
Wow. Thanks for the link to review which I read in its entirety. This is giving me pause and I just received email from moto that my order is in assembly stage. I may cancel the order and wait for Nexus. I also think this phone will be discounted by Xmas like last year. ;(
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markwebb said:
Wow. Thanks for the link to review which I read in its entirety. This is giving me pause and I just received email from moto that my order is in assembly stage. I may cancel the order and wait for Nexus. I also think this phone will be discounted by Xmas like last year. ;(
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What do you mean discontinued? The OG x was never discontinued was it?
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What do you mean discontinued? The OG x was never discontinued was it?
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He said "discounted" lol
Idk if the new Moto X will get discounted by much, since looking at the chipset, it's really up to date. Even the s5 hardly got a discount. I don't expect it
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He said "discounted" lol
Idk if the new Moto X will get discounted by much, since looking at the chipset, it's really up to date. Even the s5 hardly got a discount. I don't expect it
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True. But if sales are slow like last year I wouldn't be surprised at a slight reduction to move them during the holidays to compete with you know who.
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The thing I found most notable about this review was the complete dismissal of Moto Voice. For me, this was one of the best attributes of the original Moto X, and it worked well enough to impress iPhone users with its text-message-by-voice feature that mostly "Just Worked." Mileage may vary, obviously, for anyone who spends any time in a car this is a potentially very useful feature.
It'd be nice if the battery life reports had come back better, but they seem more or less as performant as the original model which for me was adequate if not ideal. Throw in the turbo charger, which will theoretically provide a useful enough charge of a 15 minute power up and I'm sold.
Pocketnow just posted their review and he got 4 hours screen on time with 18 hours worth of usage and he used it with Moto 360 and all the bells and whistles. He liked the phone so much that he ordered his own since he was using review unit for a few days.
People just find reasons to hate on something. Motorola is like the guru of battery management. I start using my Moto 360 around 8am and when I put it back on charger at 10pm, I still have 50% battery left. I'm sure Moto X will be similar and I am not worried about it at all. You're always around a charging port in car, in house and at work so why worry?
It could have been better, could have been worse too but who cares. It's a great device overall and I'd be happy to own one
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Pocketnow just posted their review and he got 4 hours screen on time with 18 hours worth of usage and he used it with Moto 360 and all the bells and whistles. He liked the phone so much that he ordered his own since he was using review unit for a few days.
People just find reasons to hate on something. Motorola is like the guru of battery management. I start using my Moto 360 around 8am and when I put it back on charger at 10pm, I still have 50% battery left. I'm sure Moto X will be similar and I am not worried about it at all. You're always around a charging port in car, in house and at work so why worry?
It could have been better, could have been worse too but who cares. It's a great device overall and I'd be happy to own one
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If pocketnow tested the battery by actually using the phone and not by scripts (which I presume he did), then that just shows that running custom made scripts brings in some other factors that will kill battery. I can't trust reviews solely basing battery on scripts. I've read many reports saying that the phone was used and lasted for over 10 hours or whatever
Thank you for bringing more good news on this phone and its battery lol
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Using scripts to test battery life is fine, but were they really expecting? If you keep two phones on with roughly the same SoC and roughly the same screensize, but one has a larger battery, of course the one with the larger battery is going to win.
I'm more interested in knowing how the Moto X is optimized. When the screen is off, how frequent are the wakelocks? How is the ROM tailored to optimize the phone's battery life when it's not in use?
Does anyone know a site that runs those kinds of tests?
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Pocketnow just posted their review and he got 4 hours screen on time with 18 hours worth of usage and he used it with Moto 360 and all the bells and whistles. He liked the phone so much that he ordered his own since he was using review unit for a few days.
People just find reasons to hate on something. Motorola is like the guru of battery management. I start using my Moto 360 around 8am and when I put it back on charger at 10pm, I still have 50% battery left. I'm sure Moto X will be similar and I am not worried about it at all. You're always around a charging port in car, in house and at work so why worry?
It could have been better, could have been worse too but who cares. It's a great device overall and I'd be happy to own one
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I just read the review and it wasn't a ringing endorsement as they had some concerns expressed towards the end of the article:
http://pocketnow.com/2014/09/18/moto-x-2014-review
Is there another I am missing?
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joelteixeira said:
Just taking some time to share this fresh review with you guys. Enjoy.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8523/the-new-motorola-moto-x-2014-review
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I used to like anandtech because they could give real world meaning to synthetic benchmarks. I miss the user experience. Even the verge, which always seems very apple biased rated the moto x 8.8 (vs iphone6 9.0), when they verge likes an android phone that much you know it must be good (even if it doesn't have *the best* camera)
Pocketnow basically concluded. It's no better than the predecessor and I agree. Barely an improvement if any.. I had a bad feeling. Maybe Lenovo screwed this up, who knows.
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Pocketnow basically concluded. It's no better than the predecessor and I agree. Barely an improvement if any.. I had a bad feeling. Maybe Lenovo screwed this up, who knows.
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but... they gave it an 8.9 lol
edit: from listening to the review, they're only disappointed with the camera. and, like he says in the vid, their readers actually liked last years cam. i won't say i like the cam on my current one, but it's not total crap either. it's usable.
edit: and the battery. but he ends it with saying he's purchased it haha.
i personally think battery and camera can be slightly underwhelming considering the package as a whole. my only complaint deals more with the screen but we'll see how that turns out.
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The thing I found most notable about this review was the complete dismissal of Moto Voice. For me, this was one of the best attributes of the original Moto X, and it worked well enough to impress iPhone users with its text-message-by-voice feature that mostly "Just Worked." Mileage may vary, obviously, for anyone who spends any time in a car this is a potentially very useful feature.
It'd be nice if the battery life reports had come back better, but they seem more or less as performant as the original model which for me was adequate if not ideal. Throw in the turbo charger, which will theoretically provide a useful enough charge of a 15 minute power up and I'm sold.
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Ever since I ported my Google voice number over to a real number. I use moto voice non stop while driving. You can kind of make it work on other phones if you do the okay Google on any screen but you have to have it plugged in and have it set to never turn the screen off while charging. There are apps that will read out your texts but none seem as refined as moto assists features. If the next nexus somehow gets moto voice I'll probably end up with that but I'll probably sacrifice battery to get the next moto x. From reading. It seems it's on par with the 2013 moto x at least.
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want to buy one smart watch ,and saw this models belowed ,which one
you guys think it is better ? and which one is trustworthy to buy?
http://www.banggood.com/ZGPAX-S12-1...260-Bluetooth-Smart-Watch-Phone-p-960205.html
http://www.kingsbuying.com/zgpax-s1...ch-touch-screen-w-camera-8gb-rom-2-color.html
http://www.amazon.com/Otium-Bluetoo...F8&qid=1421029711&sr=8-2&keywords=watch+phone
http://www.ebay.com/itm/U8-Bluetoot...403?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f3dc22d4b
tbh i don't really like any of them, how do they sync to your phone? None of these are even android wear
Albertoonline said:
want to buy one smart watch ,and saw this models belowed ,which one
you guys think it is better ? and which one is trustworthy to buy?
http://www.banggood.com/ZGPAX-S12-1...260-Bluetooth-Smart-Watch-Phone-p-960205.html
http://www.kingsbuying.com/zgpax-s1...ch-touch-screen-w-camera-8gb-rom-2-color.html
http://www.amazon.com/Otium-Bluetoo...F8&qid=1421029711&sr=8-2&keywords=watch+phone
http://www.ebay.com/itm/U8-Bluetoot...403?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f3dc22d4b
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I think Moto 360 is the best
G watch R
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G Watch R.
Fully round. No watch band issues and easy to change. Plus, the largest battery.
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lv2bll said:
tbh i don't really like any of them, how do they sync to your phone? None of these are even android wear
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they said it can connect to android phone .their price attract me
prabandh91 said:
I think Moto 360 is the best
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what is the price of moto 360?
Darnell_Chat_TN said:
G Watch R.
Fully round. No watch band issues and easy to change. Plus, the largest battery.
G watch R is a little expensive for me .
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Albertoonline said:
they said it can connect to android phone .their price attract me
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They may connect, but they are not Android Wear. So there's a lot you'll be missing. You may want to watch some video reviews for comparison.
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G watch R is a little expensive for me .
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I got mine new for just $210. If you wait, another deal will come along.
Darnell_Chat_TN said:
They may connect, but they are not Android Wear. So there's a lot you'll be missing. You may want to watch some video reviews for comparison.
I got mine new for just $210. If you wait, another deal will come along.
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thanks for your suggestion,i will think about it .
who has bought moto 360 ,and used it now ,tell me
some feeling after using
i am still at a standstill ,who can give more suggestions ?
should i go to this better price device or go to better brand?
Albertoonline said:
i am still at a standstill ,who can give more suggestions ?
should i go to this better price device or go to better brand?
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As low as $99 (USD)
http://www.amazon.com/LG-Watch-Powered-Android-Wear/dp/B00LB2ZQ3C
I got the LG G Watch as a christmas present and it is amazing! There's really not much of a difference between any of the Android Wear watches. Some have a slightly bigger battery but other than that, they're all the same.
Only big difference between any of these watches are how they look. Round vs. Square.
I absolutely love my ZenWatch. Best Christmas present I've received in a long time.
I've had my Asus Zenwatch for 6 going on 7 days now, and I really like it. Pictures don't do this thing justice, it is a NICE looking square watch. With the slightly curved display, it really helps it kinda blend in with your wrist more, and doesn't make it appear so large ( I have medium sized wrists). I like using this watch for just an ACTUAL watch alone, forget about Android Wear.
As for Android Wear.....It's just useful enough to keep me interested. I don't much care for the fitness aspects of Android Wear, but receiving my notifications on my wrist has kept me interested enough. This watch has dramatically cut down how often i fumble around with my phone and turn on the screen to check for notifications or messages. Also, receiving these notifications on your wrist and being able to act upon them seems so much more natural and less intrusive in a social environment. A quick glance at my wrist and maybe a swipe or two, and I'm done.
All in all I am happy with my purchase, and at $199 USD, it's one of the cheaper Android Wear watches. It's also a watch that you'd just want to wear as a nice watch, because there is no doubt that is what it is.
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I've had my Asus Zenwatch for 6 going on 7 days now, and I really like it. Pictures don't do this thing justice, it is a NICE looking square watch. With the slightly curved display, it really helps it kinda blend in with your wrist more, and doesn't make it appear so large ( I have medium sized wrists). I like using this watch for just an ACTUAL watch alone, forget about Android Wear.
As for Android Wear.....It's just useful enough to keep me interested. I don't much care for the fitness aspects of Android Wear, but receiving my notifications on my wrist has kept me interested enough. This watch has dramatically cut down how often i fumble around with my phone and turn on the screen to check for notifications or messages. Also, receiving these notifications on your wrist and being able to act upon them seems so much more natural and less intrusive in a social environment. A quick glance at my wrist and maybe a swipe or two, and I'm done.
All in all I am happy with my purchase, and at $199 USD, it's one of the cheaper Android Wear watches. It's also a watch that you'd just want to wear as a nice watch, because there is no doubt that is what it is.
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Yea, at $199, the ZenWatch is a steal! That said, the cheapest I can find it right now is at Amazon for $280. At that price, I would definitely pay $10 more and get the LG G Watch R. Paired with a nice band, it makes for a wonderful looking watch and is a much more conventional with a round face. With the recessed watch face, I would anticipate the LG to be more study than the ZenWatch and Moto as well.
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Yea, at $199, the ZenWatch is a steal! That said, the cheapest I can find it right now is at Amazon for $280. At that price, I would definitely pay $10 more and get the LG G Watch R. Paired with a nice band, it makes for a wonderful looking watch and is a much more conventional with a round face. With the recessed watch face, I would anticipate the LG to be more study than the ZenWatch and Moto as well.
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I noticed that as well on Amazon. I'm not sure why it's like that, but look for it on the play store. That's where I got mine, and its $199.
My opinion on the G Watch R is that it definitely is the go to watch if you want it to look identical to a simple/normal watch. It does look rather bulky though. The Zenwatch doesn't look like a normal watch, but it really shows that smart watches can be beautiful without being circular and trying to completely mimic a simple watch. I've had serval complaints on mine already.
Have you checked out the inWatchZ
Personally I don't like any of them. With the growing demand on smart tech the market is going to evolve quickly. I am holding out for a watch that can do everything you would want a phone to do.
Check out the inWatch Z brand I feel they have a solution that is superior to a lot of the brands on the market.
The smartwatchgroup website does an extensive review of the upcoming smart watches. inWatch Z rated 8th in the world market. plus its the only watch that is also a standalone phone.
Hope this helps.
Albertoonline said:
want to buy one smart watch ,and saw this models belowed ,which one
you guys think it is better ? and which one is trustworthy to buy?
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itslels said:
My opinion on the G Watch R is that it definitely is the go to watch if you want it to look identical to a simple/normal watch. It does look rather bulky though.
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Actually, it is comparable in size to expensive chronographs and doesn't look the least bit bulky on my normal sized male wrist. That said, it would look absurd on a woman's wrist.
Albertoonline said:
who has bought moto 360 ,and used it now ,tell me
some feeling after using
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I've had the Moto 360 ever since the beginning of December and absolutely love it. At first the battery life wasn't the greatest and I would occasionally have connection issues, but once it got the Android 5.0 update sometime during December, everything completely turned around. I get about 2 days per charge now, and it's as stable as could be.
My Pebble Time has been on it's last legs for a while but I held out last year hoping that they'd release a Pixel Watch but they never did. Then I heard about the Snapdragon 3100 chip and that a ton of watches would follow once that was released but that never did (I think Fossil Sport was the only watch that came out). However, my Pebble Time has now completely given up the ghost and I'm watchless. I was hoping to string it out until later this year as there are again more rumours that the Pixel Watch will come out this year. If I was to get a watch today then I think the best watch is Huawei Watch 2 Sport but this is over 2 years old now and I'm worried that it won't be supported much longer so it would be a terrible time to buy. How strong is the thinking that the Pixel Watch will come out this year? Where are all the watches that were supposed to come with the 3100 chip? I have a non-smart watch that I can use to tie me over for a few months but only if I can get something in 2019.
Thoughts?
The Montblanc Summit 2 has a 3100. But it's also $1100... I'd gladly wear one but I don't think I'd buy it. I did the same searching a while back. I think the Falster 2 might be a 3100 too and looked pretty reasonable. I ended up buying a small cheap MTK watch to play with for the moment. Which kind of works but isn't in the same league...
I have almost all Wear Watch (and also pebble) but I think the last is the better : Ticwatch Pro. Better battery life for all Wear Watch even better than my Huawei 2. About 2% by hour when all others have at least 3.5-4.5% by hour. So real 2 days battery life and can charge the 3rd days. Big, big point is also the real LCD screen (FSTN) for always ON mode. So it is always ON like the pebble and no light emmitted by the watch.
Actually i'm a Fossil Smartwatch Gen. 4 user and it's awesome from all the way. I don't why any topic exists in here. It has heart rate function, built-in GPS and a premium design with a good price
For 3100 i think it's very expensive now, my next watch will be a 3100 one, also i'm thinking to buy again a Fossil. There was rumors that Google will work with Fossil on next smartwatches and that made me glad about it.
none ...wear os is garbage
I also had the Pebble Time Steel which was killed after I entered a salt water pool with it.
After a few month of walking with a "normal" watch I bought a Fossil Q Explorist Gen 4. which is based on the 2100 cpu.
I thought about getting the Fossil Sport which has the 3100 cpu for the same price, but the Q looks much better.
I get over a day of battery with always on display, wifi and bluetooth on, and with the periodic heart rate monitoring.
I use it mostly for showing the time and for notifications. Despite all the reviews trashing Wear OS, I must say I disagree and I like this watch.
I got it for $200 which is much cheaper than Apple and Samsung (the Pebble was $350!) and i wouldn't think twice for buying it
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I have almost all Wear Watch (and also pebble) but I think the last is the better : Ticwatch Pro. Better battery life for all Wear Watch even better than my Huawei 2. About 2% by hour when all others have at least 3.5-4.5% by hour. So real 2 days battery life and can charge the 3rd days. Big, big point is also the real LCD screen (FSTN) for always ON mode. So it is always ON like the pebble and no light emmitted by the watch.
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I second this.
Currently using TicWatch Pro for weeks, and very happy with it.
If you can splurge some budget, I can also recommend Casio ProTrek WSD-F30 which, like TicWatch Pro, also has dual layer display.
Tough it has twice the price, the added protection and features really worth your money.
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Sorry to tell you,
Android Wear is dead.
And so is it's pathetic tiles update.
Buy a Samsung watch.
I finally came to this realization when I caught myself trying to fix the shortcomings of my Ticwatch s using Tasker, IFttt and and another app.
When you wear a Galaxy watch, after wearing a Wear watch for some time, you instantly feel the difference. It's like driving a Mustang while all you did in your life was walking ...
Watches with SIM cards
I have never seen much purpose in a phone-dependent watch, much like the Bluetooth earpiece I quit carrying after less than a year (back in 2006), why do we want ANOTHER thing to schlep around, charge, etc.?
However, a number of smart watch phones have come out which handle 4G SIM cards making them phone-independent, and I _can_ see a use case for leaving the bulky phablet phone home and wearing a (bulky) watch instead.
Sort of at random, I got a Kingwear KC05 4G 8MP Camera IP67 Waterproof WIFI GPS Smart Watch Phone, and it's a nice quality piece, particularly for the price, but as mentioned above, even though it runs full Android 7.1.1 and doesn't need to pair to a tablet phone for anything, it's pretty hard to navigate the super high DPI round touchscreen, though I am surprised how easy the on-screen keyboard is to use accurately.
Any other smart-watch-phone experiences out there to share?
IDK1985 said:
When you wear a Galaxy watch, after wearing a Wear watch for some time, you instantly feel the difference. It's like driving a Mustang while all you did in your life was walking ...
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The common conception is that Ford introduced the Mustang in 1964 to incredible success, and the folks at arch-rival Chevrolet simply copied the concept to unveil the Camaro in 1966 for the 1967 model year. Fact is, though, the story is not quite as simple as that. americanrodeo dot com/story/12690615/the-origin-of-the-chevrolet-camaro
For what I do,a connected watch is a must. Live being able to see messages, control music devices and other things like that when I can't have my phone in my hand. It's fantatsic.
Are you using your Galaxy Watch with a non-Sammy device? My incomplete understanding is that the Samsung framework is required in a phone for full functionality of their watches.
IDK1985 said:
Sorry to tell you,
Android Wear is dead.
And so is it's pathetic tiles update.
Buy a Samsung watch.
I finally came to this realization when I caught myself trying to fix the shortcomings of my Ticwatch s using Tasker, IFttt and and another app.
When you wear a Galaxy watch, after wearing a Wear watch for some time, you instantly feel the difference. It's like driving a Mustang while all you did in your life was walking ...
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I just bought the ticwatch pro, it’s bothering me the lag in ui response. I can only hope that it’s sorting itself out being new, and will improve with time.
Maybe I should return while I still can, that falster 2 isn’t much more expensive...
ha7msterx said:
I just bought the ticwatch pro, it’s bothering me the lag in ui response. I can only hope that it’s sorting itself out being new, and will improve with time.
Maybe I should return while I still can, that falster 2 isn’t much more expensive...
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There's lag? I just picked up a 2nd hand Huawei Watch 2 for £70 and it's quite laggy. I was going to go for the Pro but it's £220,im glad I didn't now!
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The common conception is that Ford introduced the Mustang in 1964 to incredible success, and the folks at arch-rival Chevrolet simply copied the concept to unveil the Camaro in 1966 for the 1967 model year. Fact is, though, the story is not quite as simple as that. americanrodeo dot com/story/12690615/the-origin-of-the-chevrolet-camaro
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This makes me smile.
I just grabbed the Fossil Explorer... This is my first non-Samsung smartwatch and so it's a bit different. WearOS is cool, but I've noticed it's slow to completely boot ( 2 minutes or so ) and not as buttery smooth as the Tizen OS. The OOB experience was great right up to the point of updates... sweet Jesus that was a horrific experience as the watch slowed down, had incredibly long response times and was generally frustrating until they all got done.... that was done being waded through, things got much much better... the integration of Google things is spot on and really nice to have and works really well. The gesture system is good, if somewhat quirky ( I think most of this is because I'm used to the Samsung gestures and just need to get used to the WearOS way ) . the screen is great, it charges quickly and looks terrific. I'd say consider this model if you're in the market. If you can survive the initial updating, you'll like it a lot.
Fossil Generation 5 is the best in 2019
Do not listen to trolls that visit an Wear OS board just to say the Galaxy Watch is better or Wear OS is dead.
Galaxy Watch requires you to add Samsung bloat to non Samsung devices, and it is expensive.
Me personally I would not buy a watch without Google Pay.
The Snapdragon 3100 is fast.
It has more internal memory than pass devices
and excellent battery life,
After 4.5 years running Wear OS on my Moto 360 (gen 2) the battery finally died, so I decided it was time to upgrade. I just bought the Fossil Carlyle HR (gen 5). Only had the watch for 2 days, but I love this watch! Great design, runs quick, charges quick, battery lasts a couple days or more depending on your settings, and the addition of having Google Pay in my watch is a game changer.
AstroDigital said:
Fossil Generation 5 is the best in 2019
Do not listen to trolls that visit an Wear OS board just to say the Galaxy Watch is better or Wear OS is dead.
Galaxy Watch requires you to add Samsung bloat to non Samsung devices, and it is expensive.
Me personally I would not buy a watch without Google Pay.
The Snapdragon 3100 is fast.
It has more internal memory than pass devices
and excellent battery life,
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I concur. My new Gen 5 is a beast. I do admit the Samsung Gear Sport I had was a real smooth watch. The issue with the Samsung is that it died after 4 months. Samsung does not put the serial number on the watch. Since I had thrown the box away, Samsung told me I was SOL. What that means for me. No matter how good a Samsung product seams to be. I still will not buy it because there business practice and customer service down right sucks.
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Sorry to tell you,
Android Wear is dead.
And so is it's pathetic tiles update.
Buy a Samsung watch.
I finally came to this realization when I caught myself trying to fix the shortcomings of my Ticwatch s using Tasker, IFttt and and another app.
When you wear a Galaxy watch, after wearing a Wear watch for some time, you instantly feel the difference. It's like driving a Mustang while all you did in your life was walking ...
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One demoralizing word: Bixby!
Hello,
I'm thinking of buying a new smartwatch. I want to replace my amazfit bip with something better. I would like to try pure android but I see that the battery in this smartwatch is not great. Does anyone use fossil gen 5 on a daily basis? And can share experience. The battery will last 24 hours without charging? If fast charging works, I don't see any problem charging it every day.
Thanks
bagufix said:
Hello,
I'm thinking of buying a new smartwatch. I want to replace my amazfit bip with something better. I would like to try pure android but I see that the battery in this smartwatch is not great. Does anyone use fossil gen 5 on a daily basis? And can share experience. The battery will last 24 hours without charging? If fast charging works, I don't see any problem charging it every day.
Thanks
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I own the Gen 5 and have had it since it came out. I think Wear Os has major issues that need to be addressed. It seems after so long that Google may have abandoned Wear Os to an extent. Just when you think it's been too long for a patch update, one small incremental one comes out, just to keep you from jumping ship. As for the fitness aspects of Wear Os compared to Amazfit, you might be disappointed as Wear Os does so much more than just fitness tracking, which in turn, makes it lack in fitness accuracy. For an Os that's been out as long as Wear Os many of the minor issues should've been worked out by now. Battery life will last a day if you don't do much with the watch but if you are a heavy user it'll die within a few hours. So I feel like you get one extreme or the other. So I guess if you're getting it for the fitness aspect you'll probably be disappointed. For everything else it's a good overall watch but there are issues.
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I own the Gen 5 and have had it since it came out. I think Wear Os has major issues that need to be addressed. It seems after so long that Google may have abandoned Wear Os to an extent. Just when you think it's been too long for a patch update, one small incremental one comes out, just to keep you from jumping ship. As for the fitness aspects of Wear Os compared to Amazfit, you might be disappointed as Wear Os does so much more than just fitness tracking, which in turn, makes it lack in fitness accuracy. For an Os that's been out as long as Wear Os many of the minor issues should've been worked out by now. Battery life will last a day if you don't do much with the watch but if you are a heavy user it'll die within a few hours. So I feel like you get one extreme or the other. So I guess if you're getting it for the fitness aspect you'll probably be disappointed. For everything else it's a good overall watch but there are issues.
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Thanks for the answer, I really appreciate that. I like the look of this watch so much and the pure android, it's a pity that the battery has poor optimization. I would have to find it somewhere in town and be able to test it, if I could be sure that fossil would last at least two days with my use, I would take it.
From today I am testing the huawei gt 2 sport watch, it looks nice but it is limited by functions and I don't like it. I ordered the galaxy watch active 2 and hope it is the best decision, probably samsung managed to make one of the best smart watches.
bagufix said:
Thanks for the answer, I really appreciate that. I like the look of this watch so much and the pure android, it's a pity that the battery has poor optimization. I would have to find it somewhere in town and be able to test it, if I could be sure that fossil would last at least two days with my use, I would take it.
From today I am testing the huawei gt 2 sport watch, it looks nice but it is limited by functions and I don't like it. I ordered the galaxy watch active 2 and hope it is the best decision, probably samsung managed to make one of the best smart watches.
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I've been reading that people are very happy with the galaxy watch. Some even say that it's ahead of Android Wear in many respects.
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bagufix said:
Thanks for the answer, I really appreciate that. I like the look of this watch so much and the pure android, it's a pity that the battery has poor optimization. I would have to find it somewhere in town and be able to test it, if I could be sure that fossil would last at least two days with my use, I would take it.
From today I am testing the huawei gt 2 sport watch, it looks nice but it is limited by functions and I don't like it. I ordered the galaxy watch active 2 and hope it is the best decision, probably samsung managed to make one of the best smart watches.
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If you follow the tips in that video: [ sorry, cant post links so far, but search for: "FOSSIL GEN 5 - THIS IS HOW I EXTENDED 2+Day BATTERY LIFE!" on youtube] the battery will last for 2 days without any problem and you can still use the watch almost without any restrictions. For me, the settings is absolutly ok. If you connect the watch via bluetooth instead of wifi and turn on bluetooth tethering on your phone, you can still use internet and get all the notifications you need.
I love the fossil gen 5 and the true android OS will be the best decission for long term perspective.
FOSSIL GEN 5 - THIS IS HOW I EXTENDED 2+Day BATTERY LIFE! --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZkZYJDip_I
I never bought a smart watch in the past but am interested in doing so now. What's the best bang-for-the-buck smart watch I can buy? I use a Samsung Galaxy Android phone so I'm guessing an Apple Watch is off the list. I would prefer one that has a heart rate monitor and all the standard sensors.
TIA for your help.
look at these playlists:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGZLicZ6A2vW40mQ7D5yjsUxc4ms5Z-zj
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGZLicZ6A2vWfrpYV3AZRSKCBDXxoU8yi
I am considering getting the Ticwatch Pro 3 GPS as it seems to have all the latest and greatest.
A lot of info here on some of the Samsung Galaxy's Watches...
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look at these playlists:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGZLicZ6A2vW40mQ7D5yjsUxc4ms5Z-zj
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGZLicZ6A2vWfrpYV3AZRSKCBDXxoU8yi
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Thanks but those are a lot of smart watches! It wouldn't really help me narrow it down to one because they're not comparison videos.
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I am considering getting the Ticwatch Pro 3 GPS as it seems to have all the latest and greatest.
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Is this better than, say, the samsung galaxy watches?
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A lot of info here on some of the Samsung Galaxy's Watches...
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Is it pretty natural to think that since I'm a samsung galaxy phone user, their smart watch is the most logical thing to go with?
Yes, it is a much smoother coexistence...
kevindd992002 said:
Thanks but those are a lot of smart watches! It wouldn't really help me narrow it down to one because they're not comparison videos.
Is this better than, say, the samsung galaxy watches?
Is it pretty natural to think that since I'm a samsung galaxy phone user, their smart watch is the most logical thing to go with?
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To be honest, I do not think there is one, not one, Smartwatch /Band that is at this moment 100% recommendable. The Fitbit Sense seems to have every single sensor you could possibly ever want or need but everything I have read says it is way to buggy to be worth the price and they have a Fitbit Premium Plan at $10 a month that I think should be included in the price of the watch since it one of the more expensive watches out there. That and I just don't do the monthly plan stuff for anyone.
Samsung is a big company and has a good reputation but it looks like the latest updates to their watches has disables some of the new features, at least for US users: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=83816129&postcount=3088
I also waited for the Amaxfit X for many months as it looks cool but have since cancelled that as it seems way to buggy and most have had nothing but issues with it.
I have read or watched on Youtube just about every review on every device out there and not one ticks all the boxes of what would make a perfect smartwatch or band. Most of the garbage out there is made in China and the software that you have load on the phone to pair the watch with is questionable. Also it seems you have a 50/50 chance of getting a good or bad device if it is made in China. I am not saying that all are bad from China but you really need to research it and look at reviews to see if it is reliable and what the companion software is accessing on your phone.
The Withings Scanwatch: https://www.withings.com/us/en/scanwatch seems like a nice one but with such a small display and not temp sensor for the very high price I do not think it is for me as I am getting up there in the years and my eyes are not what they used to be. I need a bigger display with large fonts to be able to read my data.
It really boils down to what you need on your wrist. Like I said I am older so I would like ECG/BP/SPo2 with Sleep Apnea detection and with Covid a temp sensor all on an easy to read display that can last a week of real time use, not what the manufacture claims but real life use. And I can tell you said Smartwatch/Band does not exist at this moment.
The good news is new devices seem to be coming out on a daily bases so who knows, maybe one will be release very soon that checks all the boxes that I am looking for!
Good luck on your search and lets us know which you end up getting! :highfive:
First you must choose between "Tracker" or "Smartwatch" ?
Smartwatch battery life about 3 days max (Like Samsung Galaxy watch)
Tracker between 1 and 2 weeks. (Like Huawei or Amazfit watch)
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First you must choose between "Tracker" or "Smartwatch" ?
Smartwatch battery life about 3 days max (Like Samsung Galaxy watch)
Tracker between 1 and 2 weeks. (Like Huawei or Amazfit watch)
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Most of the features of a Tracker are already in a Smartwatch, right? I would pick a Smartwatch even though it has less battery life.
dersie said:
First you must choose between "Tracker" or "Smartwatch" ?
Smartwatch battery life about 3 days max (Like Samsung Galaxy watch)
Tracker between 1 and 2 weeks. (Like Huawei or Amazfit watch)
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To be honest, I do not think there is one, not one, Smartwatch /Band that is at this moment 100% recommendable. The Fitbit Sense seems to have every single sensor you could possibly ever want or need but everything I have read says it is way to buggy to be worth the price and they have a Fitbit Premium Plan at $10 a month that I think should be included in the price of the watch since it one of the more expensive watches out there. That and I just don't do the monthly plan stuff for anyone.
Samsung is a big company and has a good reputation but it looks like the latest updates to their watches has disables some of the new features, at least for US users: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=83816129&postcount=3088
I also waited for the Amaxfit X for many months as it looks cool but have since cancelled that as it seems way to buggy and most have had nothing but issues with it.
I have read or watched on Youtube just about every review on every device out there and not one ticks all the boxes of what would make a perfect smartwatch or band. Most of the garbage out there is made in China and the software that you have load on the phone to pair the watch with is questionable. Also it seems you have a 50/50 chance of getting a good or bad device if it is made in China. I am not saying that all are bad from China but you really need to research it and look at reviews to see if it is reliable and what the companion software is accessing on your phone.
The Withings Scanwatch: https://www.withings.com/us/en/scanwatch seems like a nice one but with such a small display and not temp sensor for the very high price I do not think it is for me as I am getting up there in the years and my eyes are not what they used to be. I need a bigger display with large fonts to be able to read my data.
It really boils down to what you need on your wrist. Like I said I am older so I would like ECG/BP/SPo2 with Sleep Apnea detection and with Covid a temp sensor all on an easy to read display that can last a week of real time use, not what the manufacture claims but real life use. And I can tell you said Smartwatch/Band does not exist at this moment.
The good news is new devices seem to be coming out on a daily bases so who knows, maybe one will be release very soon that checks all the boxes that I am looking for!
Good luck on your search and lets us know which you end up getting! :highfive:
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Argh, ok This is going to be a hard and long research then. I'm targeting Black Friday to buy one if they ever have sales. I hope I can find one that I like before then.
I must say, the Amazfit X does look cool indeed. Are they continuously fixing things with firmware updates?
there's also the 11.11 sale on aliexpress, gearbest, banggood etc.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch/amazfit/amazfit-x-t4164887
That is also my plan for Black Friday. The Honor Band 6 is going to be announced this Tuesday so I am keeping an eye on it.
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Most of the features of a Tracker are already in a Smartwatch, right? I would pick a Smartwatch even though it has less battery life.
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Not really, almost all smartwatch are really POOR tracker. Main default is the sleep tracking, and for track 24/24 we need a not bad battery to keep watch days and night.
95% of the tracker series are really almost 0 smart.
Almost all Chinese tracker are bad tracker.
Stay maybe 2 brands witch are good tracker : Fitbit and Garmin. This 2 brands are also not very good but enough good Smart Thing. Smart mean app store Fitbit has an app store for the Versa series and Garmin has also an app store for most of his tracker Forerunner/Fenix/Vivoactive.
Samsung not bad has tracker and just correct has smartwatch.
Amazfit almost 0 for smart and rather bad as tracker.
What do you guys say about the KoreTrak watch?
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BUMP! Any more ideas here? It's already Black Friday week and I still don't have a choice but I think I'm going with a fitness tracker instead.
Pebble or amazfit bip. Pebble is the best one still imo, Fitbit is overpriced and breaks often, almost no devices have always on display even today, very depressing! Bip can have bipOS installed and does everything I need (notifications, shows time, continuous heart monitor, sleep tracking) and I never have to take it off. It has gps but I don't use that.
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Pebble or amazfit bip. Pebble is the best one still imo, Fitbit is overpriced and breaks often, almost no devices have always on display even today, very depressing! Bip can have bipOS installed and does everything I need (notifications, shows time, continuous heart monitor, sleep tracking) and I never have to take it off. It has gps but I don't use that.
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Can you give me a link to Pebble? I can't seem to find it anywhere unless you're referring to the Kickstarter project that already died?
XDA Pebble section but not much there
Smartwatch is still a very new thing to a lot of people. You don’t absolutely need one to get through the day, and some of the best smartwatches are much too expensive to own and use for daily purpose. The range of fossil men smartwatch is moderately priced with innumerable features. They can provide you with an easy way to get information, allow you to dismiss or reply to new messages without having to pull out your phone, and much more.
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What do you guys say about the KoreTrak watch?
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Hi Kevin, I placed an order for KoreTrak Pro myself. Received it after 3 weeks and it was working fine. But don't expect much as what you'll be getting for such a low price.