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Hey y'all S4 folks. So umm, yeah. To all the experts out there who own an S4, please do help me what S4 should I buy. I'm about to receive my blue's and threeheads(Philippine money that is. xD) Should I go for the Quadcore or the Octacore?
I'm the kind of guy who likes flashing ROM's and when I heard or rather saw the Octacore forum, it was like a ghost town. I mean, will the Octacore ever have any sort of AOSP's? Please do convince me why the <INSERT S4 VERSION HERE> is better than its counter part. Its really hard to choose between the two. If ever I choose the Quadcore, do I have to worry that maybe next year it'll loose its value. Futureproof I mean. Please please convince me. Thanks y'all!
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Get the Quad core. You won't get a fully stable ROM on the octa as Samsung won't release all the necessary drives for AOSP to work as well as it could
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from a fellow filipino,
Get the Qualcomm Snapdragon I9505
Why?
- Philippines has NO OFFICIAL OCTA-CORE RELEASED FIRMWARE (I9500)
- Samsung Philippines DOES NOT SERVICE/REPAIR DAMAGED I9500 MODELS (so you have to make sure you don't break your device)
- the Qualcomm (I9505) has more roms/mods/kernels than I9500 will ever ever have. Period
This device (I9505) is already considered "overkill" for the next 2 years.
Look at the SGS2, it's still faster than most latest mid-range devices out there, and it's almost 3 years old!
Same will go with the S4
I9505 hands down if you're into rom flashing. The platform is more open and it's what the Google Edition is based off. Octa core isn't as good as it's supposed to be and gsm arena tests show the Snapdragon actually has better battery life than the octal.
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I9505, with LTE also helping future proof it, I don't see why they didn't include it ina £500+ phone (i9500) love my i9505, even if it is in for repair for the well know 'button cracking' issue
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Jhayzt said:
Hey y'all S4 folks. So umm, yeah. To all the experts out there who own an S4, please do help me what S4 should I buy. I'm about to receive my blue's and threeheads(Philippine money that is. xD) Should I go for the Quadcore or the Octacore?
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First of all, you shall go to the Q&A thread with your QUESTION... anything else, I'm afraid, may be too complicated if you cannot place your question in the propoer thread....
I see everyone suggested the quad version. I think Samsung rushed the octa and for some reason they don't wanna release their drivers. Alright, time this seal this up. I'm going for the Quad core version. Expect me to be active in the forums! And again, thanks to everyone who posted!
Sir Deathnotice! "Salamat po!"
i9505 - hands down.
Pros:
LTE (!)
More dev-ROM friendly
Better battery life
Better support
Cons:
GPU isn't as good as i9500, but still amazing
The camera is a bit more "noisy" than i9500
GoblinSandwich said:
i9505 - hands down.
Pros:
LTE (!)
More dev-ROM friendly
Better battery life
Better support
Cons:
GPU isn't as good as i9500, but still amazing
The camera is a bit more "noisy" than i9500
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I agree with most of your points, though not the battery life.
I don't really understand GSMArena's test on that, because if you follow the battery life thread of both devices, you'll see the i9500 often lasts more than 5-6 hours screen time over a 24+ hours period, while the i9505 is closer to 4-5 hours screen time in average.
Of course, it depends a lot on what you do.
If you like to play heavy games a lot, then i9505 will clearly last longer, since the A15 CPU will be used, and that one loves eating battery
However, for most tasks (lighter tasks, or if you don't use your device that much - background tasks use the A7 CPU), the i9500 will last longer.
Also, the CPU is faster on the i9500 (the A15).
A good example is probably when you record slow motion videos.
The i9505 can record slow motion up to 1/8 at 15 FPS and 800x450 resolution.
The i9500 can record slow motion up to 1/8 at 15 FPS and 1280*720 resolution.
On another thread, people tried installing the camera software from the i9500 on the i9505 to see if they could also record in 720p.
It worked, but it also showed the reason why Samsung downgraded the resolution of slow motion videos on the i9505 : the video is a lot more choppy on the i9505 (barely useable).
And since it still worked (even if it's slow), I don't think this is due to the camera sensor difference between the variants.
Anyway, if you want to install AOSP roms, the i9505 is most likely the better choice.
I think we will get CM10.1 roms on i9500 too, but it can take a while, and they probably won't be perfect either.
I, for one, am still happy I got the i9500 (I had to import it), mostly because of the camera.
The Exmor RS is really amazing.
I also have a DSLR, but most of the pictures I take are with my phone, since I got a 9 months daughter, and she won't really wait for me to grab my Nikon to capture what she's doing
EDIT : forgot there's also a difference in the sound chip : i9500 uses a new Wolfson chip
Mithrandir007 said:
I agree with most of your points, though not the battery life.
I don't really understand GSMArena's test on that, because if you follow the battery life thread of both devices, you'll see the i9500 often lasts more than 5-6 hours screen time over a 24+ hours period, while the i9505 is closer to 4-5 hours screen time in average.
Of course, it depends a lot on what you do.
If you like to play heavy games a lot, then i9505 will clearly last longer, since the A15 CPU will be used, and that one loves eating battery
However, for most tasks (lighter tasks, or if you don't use your device that much - background tasks use the A7 CPU), the i9500 will last longer.
Also, the CPU is faster on the i9500 (the A15).
A good example is probably when you record slow motion videos.
The i9505 can record slow motion up to 1/8 at 15 FPS and 800x450 resolution.
The i9500 can record slow motion up to 1/8 at 15 FPS and 1280*720 resolution.
On another thread, people tried installing the camera software from the i9500 on the i9505 to see if they could also record in 720p.
It worked, but it also showed the reason why Samsung downgraded the resolution of slow motion videos on the i9505 : the video is a lot more choppy on the i9505 (barely useable).
And since it still worked (even if it's slow), I don't think this is due to the camera sensor difference between the variants.
Anyway, if you want to install AOSP roms, the i9505 is most likely the better choice.
I think we will get CM10.1 roms on i9500 too, but it can take a while, and they probably won't be perfect either.
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I didn't know that about the battery, interesting
About the slow-mo... I'm pretty sure it's related to the camera sensor. Sounds more logical to me that this is the bottleneck and not the CPU. I read here somewhere that it's possible to record in 60FPS in real time as well on the i9509, and that wasn't possible on stock ROM
The snapdragon one. I won't touch another exynos with a ten foot pole.
The i9505 has LTE, a dev friendly SoC, a an overall more active developer community, both aosp wise and stock wise.
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I have to admit, I really do want the Octa but, no LTE(Why o why Samsung?!), and almost no custom ROM's(besides the stock-customed ones) is a deal breaker for me. It was almost perfect but Sammy didn't pinch enough salt for the Octa version. If they could had stayed with 1 variant then maybe I can consider the Octa. The Quad is seriously getting love by the devs while the octa, facepalm. I think I'll have to give my blues to my sis, bet it all out and see what she picks up. xD Just kidding.
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I didn't know that about the battery, interesting
About the slow-mo... I'm pretty sure it's related to the camera sensor. Sounds more logical to me that this is the bottleneck and not the CPU. I read here somewhere that it's possible to record in 60FPS in real time as well on the i9509, and that wasn't possible on stock ROM
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You might be right about the camera sensor, although I would have thought it wouldn't record slow motion in 720p at all if it was the sensor.
Where have you seen the possibility of recording in 60FPS on the i9505? I'm interested.. especially since this would prove it might also be done on the i9500 at some point
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Jhayzt said:
I have to admit, I really do want the Octa but, no LTE(Why o why Samsung?!), and almost no custom ROM's(besides the stock-customed ones) is a deal breaker for me. It was almost perfect but Sammy didn't pinch enough salt for the Octa version. If they could had stayed with 1 variant then maybe I can consider the Octa. The Quad is seriously getting love by the devs while the octa, facepalm. I think I'll have to give my blues to my sis, bet it all out and see what she picks up. xD Just kidding.
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For LTE, it really depends on where you live.
In Belgium, it'll be almost useless for another year or 2 (it's only available in 8 cities, and costs a bit more now).
The i9500 doesn't have LTE, but has 42Mbit HSDPA, which is already very fast, especially since I don't download that much from my phone, given the 1Gb/month limit with my subscription (I can got over, but it'll cost extra then).
For the Roms though, it's a bit sad indeed that Samsung doesn't release the sources for the Exynos...
If you really want AOSP roms, it's kind of a deal breaker.
I still got that one because on my S3, I had dual boot Paranoid Android + very modded TouchWiz, and I used the TW rom most of the time (the camera software is one of the reasons).
The Exynos has tiny bit better performance but vastly inferior battery life than the Snapdragon S4. Also, no LTE on the i9500.
For me, i9505 every time.
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Mithrandir007 said:
You might be right about the camera sensor, although I would have thought it wouldn't record slow motion in 720p at all if it was the sensor.
Where have you seen the possibility of recording in 60FPS on the i9505? I'm interested.. especially since this would prove it might also be done on the i9500 at some point
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For LTE, it really depends on where you live.
In Belgium, it'll be almost useless for another year or 2 (it's only available in 8 cities, and costs a bit more now).
The i9500 doesn't have LTE, but has 42Mbit HSDPA, which is already very fast, especially since I don't download that much from my phone, given the 1Gb/month limit with my subscription (I can got over, but it'll cost extra then).
For the Roms though, it's a bit sad indeed that Samsung doesn't release the sources for the Exynos...
If you really want AOSP roms, it's kind of a deal breaker.
I still got that one because on my S3, I had dual boot Paranoid Android + very modded TouchWiz, and I used the TW rom most of the time (the camera software is one of the reasons).
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I'm actually here in the Philippines and to be honest, only a few areas here are covered with LTE. You do have a point. The LTE kicks at 50mbps while the 3G+ is at 42. If you were to compare, its not really a big deal. My friend uses an S3 and I asked him why doesn't he use AOSP/CM ROM's. His main reason was he wanted to stay stockish as possible due to the features of the phone. If I were to ask you sir @Mithrandir007, if ever you own an I9505, would you go custom too? if not, why?
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I'm actually here in the Philippines and to be honest, only a few areas here are covered with LTE. You do have a point. The LTE kicks at 50mbps while the 3G+ is at 42. If you were to compare, its not really a big deal. My friend uses an S3 and I asked him why doesn't he use AOSP/CM ROM's. His main reason was he wanted to stay stockish as possible due to the features of the phone. If I were to ask you sir @Mithrandir007, if ever you own an I9505, would you go custom too? if not, why?
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I always install custom Roms, but still modded TouchWiz.
I'm guessing your question was if I would go AOSP, then I'd probably only use AOSP if I can dual boot, so I still have the possibility of going back to TouchWiz.
There are a lot of features on TouchWiz, some of which are gimmicks (although gimmicks for some can be very useful to others, and the other way around as well), but others are hard to let go
On the S4, those are the TouchWiz features I use most :
- Quickglance (wave your hand above the handset to display quick information (date-time, notifications, ...) for a few seconds)
- Airview : for me this is both a gimmick in some places though still fun to use (gallery, lockscreen) and very useful in others : preview when hovering your finger above the "progress" bar while playing a video, or see full sms text when hovering over a sms in the list, see full appointment when hovering over it in S Planner, ...
- Turn phone face down to mute (or put hand on the face of the phone)
- Put the phone to your ear while looking at messages or contacts to call automatically
- Smart alert : phone vibrates when you pick it up from the table or pockets when there are notifications (missed call, sms, ...)
- MultiWindow : handy when typing a mail when you need to copy/paste or read content from a webpage for example.
There are others I use sometimes, but not as much.
Besides the features, there are also Samsung apps that are great, like the camera and S Planner.
Most of the others I use can be replaced though.
I do like AOSP roms like Paranoid Android for example, but I would really miss some TouchWiz features if I just replaced TW with AOSP (no dual boot).
Flashaholic = i9505
I'm facing a similar situation except- I don't have a problem with TW....
I posted here a for some help with my decision
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43412201
Still on the fence here...
Mithrandir007 said:
I always install custom Roms, but still modded TouchWiz.
I'm guessing your question was if I would go AOSP, then I'd probably only use AOSP if I can dual boot, so I still have the possibility of going back to TouchWiz.
There are a lot of features on TouchWiz, some of which are gimmicks (although gimmicks for some can be very useful to others, and the other way around as well), but others are hard to let go
On the S4, those are the TouchWiz features I use most :
- Quickglance (wave your hand above the handset to display quick information (date-time, notifications, ...) for a few seconds)
- Airview : for me this is both a gimmick in some places though still fun to use (gallery, lockscreen) and very useful in others : preview when hovering your finger above the "progress" bar while playing a video, or see full sms text when hovering over a sms in the list, see full appointment when hovering over it in S Planner, ...
- Turn phone face down to mute (or put hand on the face of the phone)
- Put the phone to your ear while looking at messages or contacts to call automatically
- Smart alert : phone vibrates when you pick it up from the table or pockets when there are notifications (missed call, sms, ...)
- MultiWindow : handy when typing a mail when you need to copy/paste or read content from a webpage for example.
There are others I use sometimes, but not as much.
Besides the features, there are also Samsung apps that are great, like the camera and S Planner.
Most of the others I use can be replaced though.
I do like AOSP roms like Paranoid Android for example, but I would really miss some TouchWiz features if I just replaced TW with AOSP (no dual boot).
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Hmm. Those are pretty darn features. I do tell myself that if ever I'm going for the Octa, I need to convince myself to stay stockish as ever and forget AOSP/CM/AOKP ROM's. By the way, I do love me some hardcore 3D games. How's the GPU on both devices? I heard that the Octa swarms through benchmarks. Hayahaiihaii. The dilemma of choosing between stock-customed(I9500) vs the pure-customizable(I9505). :silly:
Jhayzt said:
Hmm. Those are pretty darn features. I do tell myself that if ever I'm going for the Octa, I need to convince myself to stay stockish as ever and forget AOSP/CM/AOKP ROM's. By the way, I do love me some hardcore 3D games. How's the GPU on both devices? I heard that the Octa swarms through benchmarks. Hayahaiihaii. The dilemma of choosing between stock-customed(I9500) vs the pure-customizable(I9505). :silly:
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For hardcore 3D games I've tried, they all run perfectly smooth, from what I've read, they are smoother on the i9500 than the i9505 but I've read that early after the release of the S4, so the firmware updates might have changed things for the i9505.
At least, I can confirm the i9500 has no trouble at all.
But, one thing you should know is that while the i9500 will have a better battery in most cases (most things don't need to use the A15 CPU), if you play heavy 3D games for a long time, the battery will probably not last as long as the i9505 would while gaming, since the A15 CPU will be in use, and that one uses a lot more battery than the A7, and also more than the Snapdragon 600.
The i9500 will probably have AOSP roms in the future (some are working on it), but they probably won't be as perfect as those on the i9505, at least not for a while (like what happened on the S3, some features didn't work for a long time in AOSP).
I'm going to throw out a few brief observations here for those who are thinking about the S6 Edge which I picked up at Tmo. I'm currently running that device along with the Moto Maxx.
I missed that bigger battery the day after I bought the Edge and it died. It took me a second to figure out what had happened, I had kinda forgot to pay much attention to the battery symbol... Long story short I've become accustomed to making two days with the Maxx and the Edge will give you one if you don't turn it on, otherwise it will be less. lol No, I'm not kidding. Buy into the Edge and you will likely need to plug in during the day. And yes I've read the reports of people who are doing much better than that but don't by in. My guess is lighter users will make the day most days, medium users will need to plug in somewhere for a few (thank you fast charging) or barely scrape by, heavy users will hang themselves.
The S6 display just flat looks better. I've had the phone since release which is only a week but in that time I've had 3 people comment on the display and no one has ever said one word about the display on the max to me and I've had it since they rolled it out in Brazil. It isn't just the curve, the display is stellar. Easily the best I have seen on a smartphone.
Another thing that flat works better is the camera. Pictures pretty much turn out on the S6 without any effort whatsoever. The camera opens up instantly and can take pictures faster than a person can click. Those pictures stand a ridiculously high chance of being in focus with reasonable color balance and the like. Just excellent, if it wasn't nearly as good as it is it will still be a big improvement over the Maxx.
The performance in the GUI during daily use is very similar to the Maxx. In fact despite what you might read the S6 will hiccup occasionally in the GUI, more so than the Maxx. Yes, I'm saying the Maxx is the smoother device as I type this. I don't believe this will hold out over time as I've owned all but the S5 among the Galaxy devices and they all hugely benefited from getting on the debloated roms.
They say Touchwiz has been slimmed down and it turns out this means that TW has 4 more installed applications than it did on the S5. When you're using the word hundreds to quantify the total number of system apps it cant be good and so it is here, the whole slimmed down Touchwiz thing Sammy has been selling, ummm, nah. It is improved and I actually left it on my phone for 45 minutes or so but honestly the only reason TW doesn't get kicked to the curb by a user is they don't know better.
If you made it this far you've likely read about the nice build quality and this is no lie, sitting next to a cool-aid device it looks to be the more expensive piece of hardware. Sitting next to our phone it evokes a different response to me because they don't appear to be on the same mission. The Edge is like a beautiful woman that you want to get your hands on but you may not want to live with her every day. She is pretty as can be but a little fragile and she has some traits like sides which are so thin they can make your fingers sore before a youtube video is finished which detract from her beauty. The Maxx on the other hand isn't as pretty but she is not so bad either and a lot easier to live with. You might describe it as the woman you want to marry.
So those are my impressions of what stands out enough to mention after a week, obviously this is a lot of subjective information and I think that's the most important thing that comes to my mind when I think of these devices. I still have the device before the Maxx sitting here and it is exactly a year old. Going through the motions of doing its thing in an average day it performs subjectivly every bit as good as the Maxx does. Or the S6. I'm thinking the days of getting a new phone and thinking "Wow! OMG!! This is so much better!" are over. I'm a pathetic old man now and I can afford to play because I don't have debt and almost no bills. I'm thinking the younger version of myself that couldn't say the same would skip the S6.
I'm on the fence on the Edge, I have a few days left to either turn it in and move forward with the Maxx until the fall releases or keep it. I have to give cred to Motorola for producing a device which can stand in and punch with Sammy on their next gen device.
krabman said:
I'm going to throw out a few brief observations here for those who are thinking about the S6 Edge which I picked up at Tmo. I'm currently running that device along with the Moto Maxx.
I missed that bigger battery the day after I bought the Edge and it died. It took me a second to figure out what had happened, I had kinda forgot to pay much attention to the battery symbol... Long story short I've become accustomed to making two days with the Maxx and the Edge will give you one if you don't turn it on, otherwise it will be less. lol No, I'm not kidding. Buy into the Edge and you will likely need to plug in during the day. And yes I've read the reports of people who are doing much better than that but don't by in. My guess is lighter users will make the day most days, medium users will need to plug in somewhere for a few (thank you fast charging) or barely scrape by, heavy users will hang themselves.
The S6 display just flat looks better. I've had the phone since release which is only a week but in that time I've had 3 people comment on the display and no one has ever said one word about the display on the max to me and I've had it since they rolled it out in Brazil. It isn't just the curve, the display is stellar. Easily the best I have seen on a smartphone.
Another thing that flat works better is the camera. Pictures pretty much turn out on the S6 without any effort whatsoever. The camera opens up instantly and can take pictures faster than a person can click. Those pictures stand a ridiculously high chance of being in focus with reasonable color balance and the like. Just excellent, if it wasn't nearly as good as it is it will still be a big improvement over the Maxx.
The performance in the GUI during daily use is very similar to the Maxx. In fact despite what you might read the S6 will hiccup occasionally in the GUI, more so than the Maxx. Yes, I'm saying the Maxx is the smoother device as I type this. I don't believe this will hold out over time as I've owned all but the S5 among the Galaxy devices and they all hugely benefited from getting on the debloated roms.
They say Touchwiz has been slimmed down and it turns out this means that TW has 4 more installed applications than it did on the S5. When you're using the word hundreds to quantify the total number of system apps it cant be good and so it is here, the whole slimmed down Touchwiz thing Sammy has been selling, ummm, nah. It is improved and I actually left it on my phone for 45 minutes or so but honestly the only reason TW doesn't get kicked to the curb by a user is they don't know better.
If you made it this far you've likely read about the nice build quality and this is no lie, sitting next to a cool-aid device it looks to be the more expensive piece of hardware. Sitting next to our phone it evokes a different response to me because they don't appear to be on the same mission. The Edge is like a beautiful woman that you want to get your hands on but you may not want to live with her every day. She is pretty as can be but a little fragile and she has some traits like sides which are so thin they can make your fingers sore before a youtube video is finished which detract from her beauty. The Maxx on the other hand isn't as pretty but she is not so bad either and a lot easier to live with. You might describe it as the woman you want to marry.
So those are my impressions of what stands out enough to mention after a week, obviously this is a lot of subjective information and I think that's the most important thing that comes to my mind when I think of these devices. I still have the device before the Maxx sitting here and it is exactly a year old. Going through the motions of doing its thing in an average day it performs subjectivly every bit as good as the Maxx does. Or the S6. I'm thinking the days of getting a new phone and thinking "Wow! OMG!! This is so much better!" are over. I'm a pathetic old man now and I can afford to play because I don't have debt and almost no bills. I'm thinking the younger version of myself that couldn't say the same would skip the S6.
I'm on the fence on the Edge, I have a few days left to either turn it in and move forward with the Maxx until the fall releases or keep it. I have to give cred to Motorola for producing a device which can stand in and punch with Sammy on their next gen device.
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Thanks for the write up. I've been curious about this phone. I too think I am too used to the battery. My only two complaints about the Turbo is the wifi and the camera. I don't think they are big enough to go back to TW though.
Thank you for your feedback, I personally don't envy anything on s6, specs wise, but i like the glass back, like you said, there are for different kind of audience.
Tldr;
I have both the Turbo and and S6 Edge. They are very different phones.
It is silly comparing them, as it is very subjective and depends on your individual needs...
Turbo has much better battery.
The S6 has a better screen (by far), better camera, and is definitely faster. But has TW and MUCH shorter battery life.
No right / wrong answer.
So here's why I'm going with the s6 over the turbo. And it might sound silly but the ecosystem is one of my top reasons. If I want a, let's say case for my turbo. You will find a few. Most from cheap company's and it might be some what attractive. If you want it for the s6. Skys the limit. Walk in to best buy and have a whole section of the store just for the s6. I don't even think you could find something for the turbo at best buy. There are other reasons of course but this is one no one addresses.
And honestly. The build quality of the turbo is not that good. The cheap painted plastic around the rim. The loss power and volume buttons. The moto symbol that is just held in by some weak adhesive. The creaking back cover. I WANTED to love that phone. I just couldn't =(
I was not trying to compare the phones per se, just offering some observations for those holding one in the hand and thinking about making a move to the other. I find these things interesting because these kinds of thoughts from an ordinary user about the things that stand out are a different angle than that from a pro review.
I didn't mention the ecosystem because I think most people who surf this site and are considering trading a fairly new phone for the next thing are probably sluts when it comes to phones (yes, count me in) and they already know that the S6 will have a lot of available accessories and developer support.
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I was not trying to compare the phones per se, just offering some observations for those holding one in the hand and thinking about making a move to the other. I find these things interesting because these kinds of thoughts from an ordinary user about the things that stand out are a different angle than that from a pro review.
I didn't mention the ecosystem because I think most people who surf this site and are considering trading a fairly new phone for the next thing are probably sluts when it comes to phones (yes, count me in) and they already know that the S6 will have a lot of available accessories and developer support.
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Id you buy Verizon version no, and you never have a aosp rom in exynos device, be aware of that.
No, an ASOP rom may come, one did for the exynos S4 variant as an example, it just wont be very good lol This is one of the good things about having a phone like the S6, Sammy sells so many that the user base is huge and the development for the galaxy line has been very solid for each of the iterations. I don't think there is any reason to expect otherwise here? Still I agree with your point anyways, AOSP if it comes at all will be a long ways out and probably not as good as the stock based roms when not on snapdragon.
I'm not sure what you're asking or saying about Verizon? If you're asking if I am using them, no. I'm on Tmo, I own the Maxx and was using it on both AT&T and Tmo. Its unlikely I would use Verizon and certainly I would not buy one of their locked bootloader devices. I think the folks that read here are for the most part already aware that Verizon and AT&T S6s have locked bootloaders.
always same, no change, samsung no change
Pika71 said:
always same, no change, samsung no change
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Parroting.
Even I recognize the changes and I dislike Samsung.
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No, an ASOP rom may come, one did for the exynos S4 variant as an example, it just wont be very good lol This is one of the good things about having a phone like the S6, Sammy sells so many that the user base is huge and the development for the galaxy line has been very solid for each of the iterations. I don't think there is any reason to expect otherwise here? Still I agree with your point anyways, AOSP if it comes at all will be a long ways out and probably not as good as the stock based roms when not on snapdragon.
I'm not sure what you're asking or saying about Verizon? If you're asking if I am using them, no. I'm on Tmo, I own the Maxx and was using it on both AT&T and Tmo. Its unlikely I would use Verizon and certainly I would not buy one of their locked bootloader devices. I think the folks that read here are for the most part already aware that Verizon and AT&T S6s have locked bootloaders.
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cm oficial drop support of exynos variants, never have fully working rom, s5 exynos dont have, note 4 exynos dont have too, i doubt s6 exynos will have a full working aosp
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cm oficial drop support of exynos variants, never have fully working rom, s5 exynos dont have, note 4 exynos dont have too, i doubt s6 exynos will have a full working aosp
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CM isn't the only game out there. Don't get confused with CM vs. AOSP.
I don't get the hype for S6 or S6 Edge with the internet people when some of my customers brought their 3-4 days old s6 edge to trade with Droid Turbo just because of its good battery life and high end specs. We don't actually need to use cases for the Droid Turbo as we need it for any samsung or htc flagship. Our phones are for everyday usage, not made to put gently on the table.
ps : any phone with its manufacturer software will run miles better than any Cyanogenmod release official and unofficial.
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I haven't been on Exynos since an S4 I imported in from South America to give an octa core a try. No question the Snapdragon variants of the S4 had an easier row to hoe and we on the Exynos saw much less development although more than the average phone. I did not say it will, I said "it may" and you could be right. It isn't really meaningful to this conversation but I doubt I would install an AOSP rom if it were available. I always had far better luck with stock based roms on the Galaxy devices. Faster, more stable, less bugs, etc.
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I'm going to throw out a few brief observations here for those who are thinking about the S6 Edge which I picked up at Tmo. I'm currently running that device along with the Moto Maxx.
I missed that bigger battery the day after I bought the Edge and it died. It took me a second to figure out what had happened, I had kinda forgot to pay much attention to the battery symbol... Long story short I've become accustomed to making two days with the Maxx and the Edge will give you one if you don't turn it on, otherwise it will be less. lol No, I'm not kidding. Buy into the Edge and you will likely need to plug in during the day. And yes I've read the reports of people who are doing much better than that but don't by in. My guess is lighter users will make the day most days, medium users will need to plug in somewhere for a few (thank you fast charging) or barely scrape by, heavy users will hang themselves.
The S6 display just flat looks better. I've had the phone since release which is only a week but in that time I've had 3 people comment on the display and no one has ever said one word about the display on the max to me and I've had it since they rolled it out in Brazil. It isn't just the curve, the display is stellar. Easily the best I have seen on a smartphone.
Another thing that flat works better is the camera. Pictures pretty much turn out on the S6 without any effort whatsoever. The camera opens up instantly and can take pictures faster than a person can click. Those pictures stand a ridiculously high chance of being in focus with reasonable color balance and the like. Just excellent, if it wasn't nearly as good as it is it will still be a big improvement over the Maxx.
The performance in the GUI during daily use is very similar to the Maxx. In fact despite what you might read the S6 will hiccup occasionally in the GUI, more so than the Maxx. Yes, I'm saying the Maxx is the smoother device as I type this. I don't believe this will hold out over time as I've owned all but the S5 among the Galaxy devices and they all hugely benefited from getting on the debloated roms.
They say Touchwiz has been slimmed down and it turns out this means that TW has 4 more installed applications than it did on the S5. When you're using the word hundreds to quantify the total number of system apps it cant be good and so it is here, the whole slimmed down Touchwiz thing Sammy has been selling, ummm, nah. It is improved and I actually left it on my phone for 45 minutes or so but honestly the only reason TW doesn't get kicked to the curb by a user is they don't know better.
If you made it this far you've likely read about the nice build quality and this is no lie, sitting next to a cool-aid device it looks to be the more expensive piece of hardware. Sitting next to our phone it evokes a different response to me because they don't appear to be on the same mission. The Edge is like a beautiful woman that you want to get your hands on but you may not want to live with her every day. She is pretty as can be but a little fragile and she has some traits like sides which are so thin they can make your fingers sore before a youtube video is finished which detract from her beauty. The Maxx on the other hand isn't as pretty but she is not so bad either and a lot easier to live with. You might describe it as the woman you want to marry.
So those are my impressions of what stands out enough to mention after a week, obviously this is a lot of subjective information and I think that's the most important thing that comes to my mind when I think of these devices. I still have the device before the Maxx sitting here and it is exactly a year old. Going through the motions of doing its thing in an average day it performs subjectivly every bit as good as the Maxx does. Or the S6. I'm thinking the days of getting a new phone and thinking "Wow! OMG!! This is so much better!" are over. I'm a pathetic old man now and I can afford to play because I don't have debt and almost no bills. I'm thinking the younger version of myself that couldn't say the same would skip the S6.
I'm on the fence on the Edge, I have a few days left to either turn it in and move forward with the Maxx until the fall releases or keep it. I have to give cred to Motorola for producing a device which can stand in and punch with Sammy on their next gen device.
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Honestly iI will stay with turbo until 2nd gen of turbo comes out. I have faith Motorola will make it much better than galaxy s6 and the ffirst gen. Also the s6 and s6 edge both use Samsung's own cpu which is not as supported as a Snapdragon.
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Honestly iI will stay with turbo until 2nd gen of turbo comes out. I have faith Motorola will make it much better than galaxy s6 and the ffirst gen. Also the s6 and s6 edge both use Samsung's own cpu which is not as supported as a Snapdragon.
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Not supported as a Snapdragon means little on Verizon. It doesn't make a difference if you cannot root and unlock the bootloader.
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Not supported as a Snapdragon means little on Verizon. It doesn't make a difference if you cannot root and unlock the bootloader.
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I should've been more specific. What I was saying is that most app developers develop for qualcomm snapdragon line of processors. The s6 should face the same problem as the nexus 9 because they use lesser used chip which gives limited apps. GTA won't play on nexus 9 because of chip and either developers will have to put effort into making exynos versions of their apps(which is their choice and if they will benefit will decide this)or stay in the snapdragon highway and not risk/waste anyhting.
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I should've been more specific. What I was saying is that most app developers develop for qualcomm snapdragon line of processors. The s6 should face the same problem as the nexus 9 because they use lesser used chip which gives limited apps. GTA won't play on nexus 9 because of chip and either developers will have to put effort into making exynos versions of their apps(which is their choice and if they will benefit will decide this)or stay in the snapdragon highway and not risk/waste anyhting.
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Most app developers don't target a specific CPU unless its a root app, and then that just refers back to my original comment.
I doubt there is anything specific stopping GTA from working on the Nexus9. Did you try sideloading it?
Or are you referring to something like this?
http://androidforums.com/threads/nexus-9-bugs-app-compatibility-issues-discussion.879365/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus5/comments/2mmz66/question_gta_vice_city_and_lollipop/
That appears to be more of a Lollipop issue to me, considering that the Nexus 7 was also reported not to work in that thread and a couple other snapdragon devices were mentioned in the second.
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Most app developers don't target a specific CPU unless its a root app, and then that just refers back to my original comment.
I doubt there is anything specific stopping GTA from working on the Nexus9. Did you try sideloading it?
Or are you referring to something like this?
That appears to be more of a Lollipop issue to me, considering that the Nexus 7 was also reported not to work in that thread and a couple other snapdragon devices were
mentioned in the second.
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No vice city does work for me but San Andrea's doesn't and many reviews on either the s6 or n9 state that app compatibility is ok but a few won't work because of different processors. Most app developers develop for snapdragon cpus as exynos has only reached certain areas and is not the default cpu in the galaxy line.. You can search reviews and many users experience this problem.
I feel like we will never agree on this, but I will drop this off here for your perusal:
https://www.google.com/webhp?source...&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=youtube exynos san andreas
Which one are you getting... or don't have the choice as you live in the US, EU, Asia etc...
820, kryo and adreno 530 all the way.
I badly want the SD820 version but I live in europe
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I badly want the SD820 version but I live in europe
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I'd probably sooner have Snapdragon if I was given the choice, although nowhere near as much as yourself it would seem.
As I've touched on in other threads, the only real reason to want Snapdragon is for Vanilla and CM roms. Well, why bother buying a premium phone with numerous features that require Samsung's framework if you're going to put a third party rom on it? No, I'll be sticking with TW anyway and that doesn't bother me after it's vast improvement in recent years. I've read the 820 Snapdragon on single core performance is better than the Exynos 8, and the GPU is marginally faster too. Woo, that means I'll miss out on a couple of hundred points in a benchmark test. But in real life, the difference will equate to the square root of zero so I won't lose any sleep.
The only concern I have is the heat these things run at. Will the Exynos run hotter than the Snapdragon performing the same tasks? That will bother me, even if the speed is effectively the same. We will need to wait and see, but I've heard nothing about that being the case and the Snapdragon 810 was known to be a melting pot in more ways than one. Perhaps they haven't completely overcome that and the Exynos will still be the better SOC in that respect anyway.
In short, I'm getting the Exynos, but I'm not concerned about that.
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820, 14nm and adreno 530 all the way.
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So is the Exynos.
My concern is ROM development, which one will get attention more ?
Snapdragon, as it's an open source SOC. But in terms of stock development (debloating and the likes) there will probably be little to choose between them.
Same problem here. Only Exynos-version available. After 2 years we won't receive any updates and aosp or cm based ROMs won't be available...
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Same problem here. Only Exynos-version available. After 2 years we won't receive any updates and aosp or cm based ROMs won't be available...
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Won't receive updates?
Like the S4 or S3 or the S5 in the near future, these phones only get major updates for the first 2 years. The S4 didn't even receive Android 5.1 released in early 2015! Android 6 will probably be the last update for the S5 released in 2014.
But well: No problem. Snapdragon Chipset. Cyanogenmod 13 with Android 6 works better than any other Touchwiz based ROM before.
But what about Exynos-based S6 and S7? Very unlikely these will receive any third party support. End of life after only two years.
I've already covered my opinion on that, it makes no sense to buy a phone like this and put CM or AOSP on it. It defeats the object of paying the premium as you will lose out on the features that require Samsung's framework. Of course, people can do what they want with their own phone, but it makes no sense to me.
As for the updates that is what XDA is here for. For example, do you think the S6 won't get Android N even if Samsung don't release it for it? Of course it will, despite being based on Exynos. It just won't be through official means.
I've seen benchmarks there you actually see very good singel core performance from the new Exynos. I think it's a powerhouse both CPU and GPU, and TW have become much better. With a launcher and a couple of small tweaks there is really no need for vanilla Android. Rooted TW with some flashed goodies will do good for me. It also takes time to get a custom CM rom working well on the phone like the camera etc so I would like to enjoy this phone fully from release. The camera is just a beast.
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I'd probably sooner have Snapdragon if I was given the choice, although nowhere near as much as yourself it would seem.
As I've touched on in other threads, the only real reason to want Snapdragon is for Vanilla and CM roms. Well, why bother buying a premium phone with numerous features that require Samsung's framework if you're going to put a third party rom on it? No, I'll be sticking with TW anyway and that doesn't bother me after it's vast improvement in recent years. I've read the 820 Snapdragon on single core performance is better than the Exynos 8, and the GPU is marginally faster too. Woo, that means I'll miss out on a couple of hundred points in a benchmark test. But in real life, the difference will equate to the square root of zero so I won't lose any sleep.
The only concern I have is the heat these things run at. Will the Exynos run hotter than the Snapdragon performing the same tasks? That will bother me, even if the speed is effectively the same. We will need to wait and see, but I've heard nothing about that being the case and the Snapdragon 810 was known to be a melting pot in more ways than one. Perhaps they haven't completely overcome that and the Exynos will still be the better SOC in that respect anyway.
In short, I'm getting the Exynos, but I'm not concerned about that.
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Heat shouldn't be a problem, the s7 (edge) comes with some type of water cooling system like they have in gaming PCs.
As for me, I would choose Snapdragon because of the development, aosp, cm, tw all in one. I believe Exynos is closed source.
I'm aware it comes with a heat spreader, but given the size, I'm unsure how effective it will be. Hopefully very.
Exynos for me if i wanted cm i would buy nexus. As mentioned above tw has been getting better im running note 4 exynos 5.1.1 and it flies. Being nearly 2 years old i can only imagine the s7 edge performance for todays phones
It's also worth pointing out that one of the primary reasons to buy this phone is the camera. Well, if you put non-stock on it then you will never get the quality it's capable of.
@Beefheart, I don't want to start a heated debate here, but for me at least, it seems logical that people want the S820 variant because of the presumably better support from the development community. Touchwiz sucks in speed, no matter how you put it. I used many phones in the last year, including the Note5 and even if it's faster than previous Samsung devices, lag is still there : in multitasking, when launching various apps, etc. And you see it especially when compared with same generation phones that come with weaker hardware but (much) better optimized software : oneplus2, meizu pro5, even LG G4 which has similar "heavy" software on it. So I think it's logical to want a CM or AOSP rom on your S7 if you want your phone to have the speed and even some extra-customization. Because of the screen quality, battery, even camera (I know, Samsung camera app will always be better than on the CM, but I believe it will be bearable even on a non-Touchwiz ROM).
Just my 2 cents.
s7 edge in asia region will get snapdragon?
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@Beefheart, I don't want to start a heated debate here, but for me at least, it seems logical that people want the S820 variant because of the presumably better support from the development community. Touchwiz sucks in speed, no matter how you put it. I used many phones in the last year, including the Note5 and even if it's faster than previous Samsung devices, lag is still there : in multitasking, when launching various apps, etc. And you see it especially when compared with same generation phones that come with weaker hardware but (much) better optimized software : oneplus2, meizu pro5, even LG G4 which has similar "heavy" software on it. So I think it's logical to want a CM or AOSP rom on your S7 if you want your phone to have the speed and even some extra-customization. Because of the screen quality, battery, even camera (I know, Samsung camera app will always be better than on the CM, but I believe it will be bearable even on a non-Touchwiz ROM).
Just my 2 cents.
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I don't believe anyone wants a heated debate, this is a forum and an expressing of opinions.
Touchwiz doesn't suck in speed, or at least not in recent models. There have still been a few issues, like the savagery of it's memory management, but from what I have read on this forum in the last few days that is far less of an issue on the S7. Touchwiz is now a very good OS regardless of what way you look at it, especially on powerful devices with a lot of RAM. Or 4gb in the case of the S7. I think a lot of people still judge it on the piece of s**t it was on the S2/S3 and to a lesser extent, the S4. But it's inevitable when something has a terrible rep it will take time to fix.
I simply find it a little strange that a fan of vanilla Android who doesn't like Touchwiz would buy a premium Samsung flagship device only to remove the very thing which provides most of the features that make it a premium flagship device in the first place. Especially given the numerous other options on the market which are more suitable. As someone said earlier, if they wanted CM or AOSP, they'd have bought a Nexus.
But to go back to the architecture, I myself would take the 820 over the Exynos if given a straight choice, I've already said that.
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I don't believe anyone wants a heated debate, this is a forum and an expressing of opinions.
Touchwiz doesn't suck in speed, or at least not in recent models. There have still been a few issues, like the savagery of it's memory management, but from what I have read on this forum in the last few days that is far less of an issue on the S7. Touchwiz is now a very good OS regardless of what way you look at it, especially on powerful devices with a lot of RAM. Or 4gb in the case of the S7. I think a lot of people still judge it on the piece of s**t it was on the S2/S3 and to a lesser extent, the S4. But it's inevitable when something has a terrible rep it will take time to fix.
I simply find it a little strange that a fan of vanilla Android who doesn't like Touchwiz would buy a premium Samsung flagship device only to remove the very thing which provides most of the features that make it a premium flagship device in the first place. Especially given the numerous other options on the market which are more suitable. As someone said earlier, if they wanted CM or AOSP, they'd have bought a Nexus.
But to go back to the architecture, I myself would take the 820 over the Exynos if given a straight choice, I've already said that.
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I always thought Android was about freedom. And you just can't say to anyone who wants a stripped down UI and a nice phone on the same time, to just go and buy a Nexus. First of all, the Nexus 6p is an ugly phone (subjective, I know...). Second, it's a big phone, which might be too much for some. Having had all the Samsung Note phones (and much of the S series) I can't find something really interesting in Touchwiz, something I can't live without or something I can't also have on CM. Maybe besides the camera app. I used the Note4 for more than half a year and most of the time it was with CM on it which was running great, miles ahead of TW regarding the speed and multitasking functionality. Of course, I can't talk about the S7, there are very few who have the device at this moment, but given my past experiences with TW (Note5 included) I'm not very optimistic.
I'm not telling anyone to buy or not buy anything. I'm saying that in my opinion it makes no sense to pay a premium for a phone only to remove the features that made it premium in the first place. But if people want to spend £650 (or the equivalent via a network contract) to do that they're more than entitled to do that and it's obviously their money. But I'm going around in circles here so I'll bow out.
So, Ars Technica just published its review of the Galaxy S7, which goes super in-depth. And in it, some things aren't surprising: the intl 8890 spanks the US 820 models, but here's the one that's surprising.
Not surprising
Rather surprising
Very surprising
So not only does the Exynos have noticeably better benchmark performance, it also lasts longer on a charge. And while the E8890 was tested in the UK labs, while the US labs tested the S820 version, the difference should not be that big. And with the early reports of the S820's GPU being noticeably better than the E8890's proven wrong in that same review (it is slightly better, but with differences of only 1 or 2 fps), it begs the question why Samsung didn't go all Exynos again, especially since it home-grows these chips, it theoretically should be cheaper for them to just use these. I know Samsung has a partnership or something with Qualcomm, but when your product is better than theirs in every way, doesn't it just make more sense to go with the better one?
I'm happy Australia gets exynos
sigh. typical.
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The thing is, and always seems to be, that a quick search on Google for Snapdragon VS Exynos S7 performance shows plenty of legitimate tests that swing either way in favor of one or the other depending on which test(s) you believe. The above illustrated (in the OP) is just one of the tests. Many will show results in favor of the Snapdragon. Generally speaking, the pattern seems to support the Exynos being slightly better at intense gaming while the Snapdragon seems to be slightly better at day-to-day tasks.
That being said, I think it's ridiculous to split hairs when it comes to slight performance differences that 99.5% of most users will never notice. It's not a topic worth arguing about (though many still will). It just comes down to whose test do you want to believe over the next guys. Debating such small differences can be fun, but it won't make one variety of S7 any better than the other at the end of the day.
Here is just one of the many examples that show results a bit different than in the OP:
http://www.ibtimes.com/samsung-galaxy-s7s-snapdragon-820-vs-exynos-8890-preliminary-showdown-2334571
Again, for every site that shows one shine above the other there is another site that will show it differently. Either way, either processor, the S7 is a great phone (if your not a developer in the US).
Real world use there is no difference
Would love the exynos version
Performance: Similar
Batterylife: Exynos way ahead
It's obvious after reading the battery life threads, Exynos version is much better.
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Performance: Similar
Batterylife: Exynos way ahead
It's obvious after reading the battery life threads, Exynos version is much better.
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Performance: Nope, Exynos version is simply much better. Forget about the benchmark. Look at the real world test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI7jkyRwa8A
(S7 - Exynos, S7E - S820)
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Performance: Nope, Exynos version is simply much better. Forget about the benchmark. Look at the real world test.
(S7 - Exynos, S7E - S820)
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It's not a totally fair fight, S7 always has slight edge over S7 edge. I don't have any theory to support this, but I've read a lot of S7/edge benchmark and S7 always have 300->1k point higher than S7 edge
Still, 6 or 7 second lower in some game loading is a noticeable margin. Also, in this video, he only tested app loading time so it's not the end of the story. He said that he's gonna upload a new video about real FPS performance then, we shall see if Snapdragon can make a come back.
And one reason why Samsung use Snapdragon variant in US is due to LTE network spec that only Snapdragon chip support or sth. Also can't remember where I read that )
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Performance: Nope, Exynos version is simply much better. Forget about the benchmark. Look at the real world test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI7jkyRwa8A
(S7 - Exynos, S7E - S820)
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I have no clue what he is saying in that clip, is he running an SD-card on either phone and do he have any apps moved to those SD-cards?
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I have no clue what he is saying in that clip, is he running an SD-card on either phone and do he have an apps moved to those SD-cards?
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He didn't say anything about that. He just install 20 same games and apps on both devices, and then use same 3G network carrier (which is Mobifone - Vietnam) and then speed test their loading time. I don't think he used SD card at all. Most of the time he just said that he though Snapdragon version should be faster but apparently it's not. Also, some app, like Dictionary and Chicken invader, the S7 Exynos doesn't restart the app, just normal resume, while S7 Edge SD820 need to restart the app. That's all about it.
wow, sd820 performance in that video is horrible.
Anyone know if Samsung pay works In the US on the exynos galaxy s7
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Anyone know if Samsung pay works In the US on the exynos galaxy s7
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You should ask that in the S7 Help section rather than take this thread off-topic.
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Performance: Nope, Exynos version is simply much better. Forget about the benchmark. Look at the real world test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI7jkyRwa8A
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That is literally one of the worst attempts at a comparison video I have ever watched (partially watched anyway). If people are going to do real world tests...they need to do them correctly.
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That is literally one of the worst attempts at a comparison video I have ever watched (partially watched anyway). If people are going to do real world tests...they need to do them correctly.
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Must hurt to see the device you own doing crappy and so very easy to throw out "O thats not a valid comparison".
Have you been under a rock ? Many many many have reported, lag, heat, jittery slo mo, crappy battery life, crappy audio for the subpar built in Qualcomm DAC. with the SD820 S7 implementation.
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Must hurt to see the device you own doing crappy and so very easy to throw out "O thats not a valid comparison".
Have you been under a rock ? Many many many have reported, lag, heat, jittery slo mo, crappy battery life, crappy audio for the subpar built in Qualcomm DAC. with the SD820 S7 implementation.
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Sounds like you're losing sleep over it. I couldn't resist.
Exynos-powered Galaxy S7 appears to be faster than its Snapdragon 820 counterpart
If you take the two side-by-side comparisons uploaded to YouTube into account, it appears that the Exynos 8890 variant of the Galaxy S7 is actually significantly more powerful than the Snapdragon 820-driven Galaxy S7. Not only does this model boot and open applications faster but it also renders video at a significantly faster rate.
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Side by side cool, but in real world use there is no difference. The exynos has better battery life
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Must hurt to see the device you own doing crappy and so very easy to throw out "O thats not a valid comparison".
Have you been under a rock ? Many many many have reported, lag, heat, jittery slo mo, crappy battery life, crappy audio for the subpar built in Qualcomm DAC. with the SD820 S7 implementation.
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Are you 5 years old? Comparing a foriegn S7 against an American S7 Edge...knowing the Edge has more things running in the background due to "Edge" specific functions, as well as the modem limitations in a foriegn land and that is a good comparison?
Go troll elsewhere.
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Are you 5 years old? Comparing a foriegn S7 against an American S7 Edge...knowing the Edge has more things running in the background due to "Edge" specific functions, as well as the modem limitations in a foriegn land and that is a good comparison?
Go troll elsewhere.
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Why are you so salty?
The thing is both devices are Int versions (G9350 and G930F), so your argument about "modem limitation" is not valid.
And about the edge features, here is the evidence that it is negligible.
https://youtu.be/28FjDWmLli8
Hi guys
Don't know if this is the right spot to post this but, I need some help chosing a smartphone. Since I'm upgrading from a note 3 SM-9005 I would like to upgrade to something similar. So what brings me here to this forum? I love galaxy s7 edge and I would love to get it. But... since I can only buy the international version and from my experience with an galaxy S2 and sammsung 0 suport over the cpu source code, I am afraid the phone dosent get custom rom suport in the future. I've been browsing around and reading a lot, but tbh I'm not totally convinced I should spend money on this since theres a lot of diferent opinions on the device.
Several other things concern me:
The adreno performance is something I like, even though exynos has better batery life (comparing adreno and mali in terms of gaming and everyday usage)
the diference in the camera sensors
Future custom ROM suport
Overal Fragility of the device (I've been browsing around this forum, and saw several complaints about screen cracks, burned out micro USB amongst other problems)
Is the diference between 2k and 1080p displays noticeable?
So guys, I want to known your opinion about this phone. From both exynos and snapdragon users of what makes this phone worth over other brands .
Also, I encourage sugestions of other brands since I want something future proof.
Sorry if my english sucks, but Its not my main language.
Sincerely
Shade
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Hi guys
Don't know if this is the right spot to post this but, I need some help chosing a smartphone. Since I'm upgrading from a note 3 SM-9005 I would like to upgrade to something similar. So what brings me here to this forum? I love galaxy s7 edge and I would love to get it. But... since I can only buy the international version and from my experience with an galaxy S2 and sammsung 0 suport over the cpu source code, I am afraid the phone dosent get custom rom suport in the future. I've been browsing around and reading a lot, but tbh I'm not totally convinced I should spend money on this since theres a lot of diferent opinions on the device.
Several other things concern me:
The adreno performance is something I like, even though exynos has better batery life (comparing adreno and mali in terms of gaming and everyday usage)
the diference in the camera sensors
Future custom ROM suport
Overal Fragility of the device (I've been browsing around this forum, and saw several complaints about screen cracks, burned out micro USB amongst other problems)
Is the diference between 2k and 1080p displays noticeable?
So guys, I want to known your opinion about this phone. From both exynos and snapdragon users of what makes this phone worth over other brands .
Also, I encourage sugestions of other brands since I want something future proof.
Sorry if my english sucks, but Its not my main language.
Sincerely
Shade
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Hi shade,
I can answer a few of those questions for you.
Difference in cam sensors, is negligible from what I can tell.
Custom ROMs? Nope. It's all just stock based ROMs with a few tweaks, CM does exist but it's far from stable and plenty of stuff doesn't work yet.
If you're an idiot, it'll break. Be careful, use a thin case, and original cables, and you can't go wrong.
Yes it is, and once you get used to it, 1080p seems a bit... well... boring. Just kidding, the difference is noticeable, but unless you use your phone to watch HD movies, it makes no difference in normal usage like roasting a friend in a group chat or using Snapchat.
I don't have the Snapdragon one, but just know, if you do get one, the chances of getting Custom ROMs goes from 'a bit' to 'none at all' since the SD 820 variants all have locked bootloaders.
If you're really looking for something future proof? How about a OnePlus 3T? You'd save a ton of money, get some more internal storage, 2 extra gigs of RAM and a ton of custom ROM support.
I'll sell you mine with two cases (unicorn beetle pro, clear speck candyshell) and a 2 year square trade warranty! All can be yours, make me an offer I can't refuse!
moSess said:
I'll sell you mine with two cases (unicorn beetle pro, clear speck candyshell) and a 2 year square trade warranty! All can be yours, make me an offer I can't refuse!
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This was pure genius xD
murtaza02 said:
Hi shade,
I can answer a few of those questions for you.
Difference in cam sensors, is negligible from what I can tell.
Custom ROMs? Nope. It's all just stock based ROMs with a few tweaks, CM does exist but it's far from stable and plenty of stuff doesn't work yet.
If you're an idiot, it'll break. Be careful, use a thin case, and original cables, and you can't go wrong.
Yes it is, and once you get used to it, 1080p seems a bit... well... boring. Just kidding, the difference is noticeable, but unless you use your phone to watch HD movies, it makes no difference in normal usage like roasting a friend in a group chat or using Snapchat.
I don't have the Snapdragon one, but just know, if you do get one, the chances of getting Custom ROMs goes from 'a bit' to 'none at all' since the SD 820 variants all have locked bootloaders.
If you're really looking for something future proof? How about a OnePlus 3T? You'd save a ton of money, get some more internal storage, 2 extra gigs of RAM and a ton of custom ROM support.
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Thanks for awsering
So the 820 has a locked bootloader? That sucks a lot. Well, I guess with the news that cyanogenmod is dead it isen't relevant anymore. I have a good deal for a S7E Gold for 400€ so I'm going to get it.
Thanks for your help! Merry Christmas
smg9350 is all unlocked and smacks exynos around in the benchmark area. Dont give the guy bad info.
Shadeftw said:
This was pure genius xD
Thanks for awsering
So the 820 has a locked bootloader? That sucks a lot. Well, I guess with the news that cyanogenmod is dead it isen't relevant anymore. I have a good deal for a S7E Gold for 400€ so I'm going to get it.
Thanks for your help! Merry Christmas
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Well travis82 just mentioned that the SM-G9350 which is the Chinese variant has the Snapdragon 820, and an unlocked bootloader.
Just check what bands your carrier uses for 3G and LTE and make sure the phone supports them, if you're interesting in buying the chinese variant.
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smg9350 is all unlocked and smacks exynos around in the benchmark area. Dont give the guy bad info.
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Jeez, okay, no need to get so hostile.
You gotta admit that the Exynos has way better battery life though.
nah i seem to get better battery than exynos varients. more cores doesnt mean better overal. ie: amd vs intel. is one example. but really the op should wait for next years flagships, they will be much better, and a die shrink to boot.
Well I went ahead and bought the phone. So now I am suprised that it has the xsg csc. Do you guys known if I can flash my country's original stock rom without tripping knox?