Project Fi is LIVE
https://fi.google.com/
Google just went live and is currently accepting invite requests.
Their page has a bunch of info about their new service. I signed up for an invite.
I don't think it's about being "cheaper" but it seems to be a new way of using your device. So if your expecting 5GB for $5 you''re going to be disappointed.
We'll see how this goes.
Just sumbitted a request invite. $20 a month, $10 per Gb, it beats StraightTalk. Give me my invite!!!!!
$10 per gb???? thats expensive! very! i average about 25gb a month. that would be $250 for their service, data only. paying $70 for tmobile everything unlimited(data aa well), so googles service would not even be close to being worth it(for me).
Dusty Rhodes said:
Project Fi is LIVE
https://fi.google.com/
Google just went live and is currently accepting invite requests.
Their page has a bunch of info about their new service. I signed up for an invite.
I don't think it's about being "cheaper" but it seems to be a new way of using your device. So if your expecting 5GB for $5 you''re going to be disappointed.
We'll see how this goes.
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Thanks for posting. I would be interested in knowing how Sprint (my carrier) would handle those who wanted to switch. Probably way to soon to call them and ask, as most reps wouldn't have a clue. But I'd like to know if I switched just one of my 3 lines (just my N6 of course) to project fi which has excellent coverage in my area, according to the map in the link provided. I wonder if I would be charged an ETF or not. Unfortunately the information in your link did not confirm this question.
It's going to be worth it for me. I'm at $78/month right now with AT&T. Since I'm mostly on Wi-Fi at work, my average monthly data usage is .19 GB. According to their Plan calculator, I'll be paying $22/month.
Since they claim to handle SMS/MMS and I can also port my number, this is looking like a no-brainer to me.
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Thanks for posting. I would be interested in knowing how Sprint (my carrier) would handle those who wanted to switch. Probably way to soon to call them and ask, as most reps wouldn't have a clue. But I'd like to know if I switched just one of my 3 lines (just my N6 of course) to project fi which has excellent coverage in my area, according to the map in the link provided. I wonder if I would be charged an ETF or not. Unfortunately the information in your link did not confirm this question.
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My guess it that if you are under contract, it will be viewed as an early termination.
The information mentions WiFi calling. Has the N6 received the ability to place WiFi calls yet?
DevilMR said:
Just sumbitted a request invite. $20 a month, $10 per Gb, it beats StraightTalk. Give me my invite!!!!!
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Doesn't beat Cricket Wireless. Paying 55 dollars for 20gbs a month and only 8mbps. Everything has been real smooth. T-mobile and Sprint are awful where I live in the south.
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$10 per gb???? thats expensive! very! i average about 25gb a month. that would be $250 for their service, data only. paying $70 for tmobile everything unlimited(data aa well), so googles service would not even be close to being worth it.
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Again, I'm guessing here. While the 1st GB is indeed $10, I suspect that there will be packages with larger amounts of data for less $/GB.
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My guess it that if you are under contract, it will be viewed as an early termination.
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That would be my guess as well. But already being on a network that supports fi, I hope it might be different. I guess that's what I was really wondering, if those on T-Mobile and Sprint would still be considered as switching providers.
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Again, I'm guessing here. While the 1st GB is indeed $10, I suspect that there will be packages with larger amounts of data for less $/GB.
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well, as of yet there arent any. i did submit a request though, just in case
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well, as of yet there arent any. i did submit a request though, just in case
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Yup, me too. I can't even imagine that Fi would get off the ground without a discount for large GB users.
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Thanks for posting. I would be interested in knowing how Sprint (my carrier) ... I wonder if I would be charged an ETF or not. Unfortunately the information in your link did not confirm this question.
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Google wouldn't know if Sprint will charge an ETF. You'd have to ask Sprint.
Project Fi operates as a unique independent service provider not as a branch of Sprint or TMo even though they use their networks.
Fi just charges $10 for every GB you use. If you sign up for 10GB and use 9GB you are refunded $10. If you sign up for 10GB and use 11GB you get billed $10 for the extra GB you used. You pay for a bucket of data and you get refunded for what you don't use. Their whole premise is to just charge you for what you use.
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The information mentions WiFi calling. Has the N6 received the ability to place WiFi calls yet?
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If it doesn't it will when this rolls out. .... https://fi.google.com/about/faq/#wifi-connection-and-calls
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That would be my guess as well. But already being on a network that supports fi, I hope it might be different. I guess that's what I was really wondering, if those on T-Mobile and Sprint would still be considered as switching providers.
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From the Project Fi Q&A:
Will I be charged a termination fees from my current provider if I switch to Project Fi?
Please check with your current wireless provider if there are termination fees for ending your service.
Will Project Fi pay my termination fees if I have them?
No, we do not pay for terminations fees if you leave your current wireless service.
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From the Project Fi Q&A:
Will I be charged a termination fees from my current provider if I switch to Project Fi?
Please check with your current wireless provider if there are termination fees for ending your service.
Will Project Fi pay my termination fees if I have them?
No, we do not pay for terminations fees if you leave your current wireless service.
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Yes, I had read that. I think I'll contact Sprint for more information.
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Yes, I had read that. I think I'll contact Sprint for more information.
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Good luck to you, sir.
I wonder what affect all this switching networks and searching for open WiFi will have on battery?
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It's going to be worth it for me. I'm at $78/month right now with AT&T. Since I'm mostly on Wi-Fi at work, my average monthly data usage is .19 GB. According to their Plan calculator, I'll be paying $22/month.
Since they claim to handle SMS/MMS and I can also port my number, this is looking like a no-brainer to me.
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dont forget to add taxes and fees. should be around $27.
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I wonder what affect all this switching networks and searching for open WiFi will have on battery?
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From the Project Fi Q&A:
Does moving between networks affect my battery life?
We like full batteries too. Our software is optimized to not put extra strain on your battery by only moving you between networks when absolutely necessary.
crachel said:
It's going to be worth it for me. I'm at $78/month right now with AT&T. Since I'm mostly on Wi-Fi at work, my average monthly data usage is .19 GB. According to their Plan calculator, I'll be paying $22/month.
Since they claim to handle SMS/MMS and I can also port my number, this is looking like a no-brainer to me.
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Yes, this is me too. I am on Wi-Fi at work and home I use very little data each month. For those like us, this could be a huge cost saver. For heavy data users, the math probably doesn't work especially if you are still on a grandfathered unlimited plan with Verizon or something similar with a different carrier.
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Here is my conversation regarding the Sprint Premium Data add-on (i.e. Awesome phone, surcharge.):
James: Hi! I'm a live Sprint product specialist. Are there any questions I may help answer for you today?
You: yes
James: What questions can I answer for you?
You: I currently have the everything data family plan with 1500 minutes. If I upgrade to the EVO do I need to change my plan?
James: I would be happy to check if you will have to change your plan with the HTC EVO.
James: Let's move this chat and make it a window of its own. That way, you'll still see this web page while we chat. Please click 'Yes' to move it now.
James: Thank you for moving the chat.
James: The HTC Evo will not require you to change your plan but it will require the Premium Data add-on.
James: A $10 Premium Data add-on will apply allowing customers to take advantage of all that HTC EVO 4G can do.
You: like what for example?
James: This device provides a premium experience like no other and is truly second-to-none. Customers will enjoy unlimited 3G or 4G data with EVO!
You: is 4g service offered in NJ?
James: May I please have your zip code to verify that for you?
You: 08721 and 07724
James: May I please have your zip code so I can check what Mobile Broadband Plans are available in you area?.
James: I'm sorry, about that.
James: Thanks, would you mind holding while I check?
You: sure
James: I'm sorry, unfortunately we do not offer 4G in your area.
You: when do you plan to offer 4g in my area?
James: In 2010, Sprint expects to launch service in multiple markets; however, specific cities have not been announced.
You: so what is the $10 charge for then?
James: Think of this charge as the price for paying for a first-class seat on an airplane. The rich data experience that comes with EVO ownership puts users in a class by themselves.
James: With a 4.3” screen, Advanced Processor and an 8MP camcorder/camera; these features provide capabilities that were previously never available on a wireless device.
You: but that's what the phone does not the service. what does the service provide for that $10?
James: Because we've boosted your data experience with this phone's amazing services and features, you'll need the $10 Premium Data add-on.
This was like trying to nail jello to the wall. As much as I want this phone I don't know if I can justify an extra $10 on top of what I pay for the everything data family plan and an aircard.
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This was like trying to nail jello to the wall. As much as I want this phone I don't know if I can justify an extra $10 on top of what I pay for the everything data family plan and an aircard.
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wifi tether and eliminate a bill, or simply just compare to at&t/verizon prices. still can't beat them.... we sprint customers are spoiled and fail to look at the rest of the cell companies out there
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wifi tether and eliminate a bill, or simply just compare to at&t/verizon prices. still can't beat them.... we sprint customers are spoiled and fail to look at the rest of the cell companies out there
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I concur. We'll see what website activation does for my plan... or if it'll not let me because it's an Evo.
wifi tether and eliminate a bill, or simply just compare to at&t/verizon prices. still can't beat them.... we sprint customers are spoiled and fail to look at the rest of the cell companies out there
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I would just tether except for the fact that I'm locked in a two-year contract with my aircard. I could compare it to at&t and verizon but that's a fallacious argument. I think where my frustration comes in is the fact that they're charging me for 4G service with only a vague promise that I'll get it. But I think what really bothers me is the fact that it just seems dishonest.
I would gladly pay for the 4G service separately if they offered it in my area but I don't see why I have to subsidize other peoples' service.
I feel like everyone who says "Yes" is in a 4G market and everyone who says "No" isn't.
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I feel like everyone who says "Yes" is in a 4G market and everyone who says "No" isn't.
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LOL Yeah I guess that kinda makes sense.
i work for sprint and im iffy about the situation im like 50/50 on it does it suck yea but if thats what i have to pay to get unlimited data and for sprint not to **** everyone like at&t then yea **** it why not
I'm not in a 4g market but 10$ is nothing compared to the useless things I spend ten bucks on every day
It really don't matter to me. Don't let 10$ stop you. From this phone
P.S. the sprint online reps is just bots that are program with tags to answer your question if I say the same thing ill get the same answers from them.
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Doesn't it also remove the soft cap on 3g service?
I wasnt thrilled about the extra $10 charge (especially being we have TWO Evo's) and not being in a 4G area but at the end of the month, my bill is still $30 less than with VZW and now my wife has internet on her phone also.
Plus both our phones are rooted and wifi tethered so thats $30 less per phone I have to pay.
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I would just tether except for the fact that I'm locked in a two-year contract with my aircard. I could compare it to at&t and verizon but that's a fallacious argument. I think where my frustration comes in is the fact that they're charging me for 4G service with only a vague promise that I'll get it. But I think what really bothers me is the fact that it just seems dishonest.
I would gladly pay for the 4G service separately if they offered it in my area but I don't see why I have to subsidize other peoples' service.
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Ask Sprint to move the Aircard contract over to the $30 a month HotSpot tether. That way you can decrease you monthly expenditure by 1/2 and still get a good experience with it.
mrmomoman said:
Ask Sprint to move the Aircard contract over to the $30 a month HotSpot tether. That way you can decrease you monthly expenditure by 1/2 and still get a good experience with it.
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Perhaps I'll look into doing that. Thanks for the tip.
From what I understand, the $10 extra that you are paying is for truly unlimited data for both 3G and 4G. Otherwise there is a 5GB limit (supposedly) for 3G. I know of a couple of people who have gotten this phone who are going to dump their home wired internet service and just WiFi tether from their rooted phone.
With 2GB caps announced at AT&T and rumors of Verizon following suit, be glad you can get truly unlimited Internet. Just wait until the Netflix app comes out and you will start streaming HD through your phone and outputting it over micro HDMI to your big screen TV.
The possibilities of this phone is staggering.
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With 2GB caps announced at AT&T and rumors of Verizon following suit, be glad you can get truly unlimited Internet.
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exactly, but for how long? i'm content with paying $10/mo for unlimited data, but if sprint decides to start tiered pricing in a few months, i'll be upset.
I know... Sprint has always been good to me which is why I use them. Much better than AT&T or Verizon as far as their billing practices go and service. I had an AT&T rep at the mall tell me that they offer "unlimited data service up to 5GB." I then had to explain to him what unlimited meant.
Sprint also tried to downgrade my unlimited plan for my aircard when I upgraded to they're new WiMax device. They waved that carrot in front of my face for free and I took it, hook line and sinker. Then I called them up and went ballistic and they changed it back cause I've been with them a long time.
I was told and have posted this a couple times now, the $10 fee isnt for a service, thats right not a service, not $10 for 4g/3g/extra data we may, or may not use.... the $10 extra is, to put it simply, for the device(evo) and im not complaining(yet) I'd pay an extra 10 a month for it for a while without being to pissed off, but after this 1st year i may start complaining a little
$10 to lose the cap
I live in Atlanta in a 4g market. 4g does not quite make it in my house or anywhere at work unless I am standing next to the window.
I have downloaded 1.5GB over the past 3 days, over 3g only so I am happy to not have the 5gb cap.
My data averaged 6GB on my T-mo MyTouch3G, they allow up to 10GB so it was no problem there either.
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I was told and have posted this a couple times now, the $10 fee isnt for a service, thats right not a service, not $10 for 4g/3g/extra data we may, or may not use.... the $10 extra is, to put it simply, for the device(evo) and im not complaining(yet) I'd pay an extra 10 a month for it for a while without being to pissed off, but after this 1st year i may start complaining a little
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So the $10 monthly fee isn't even for the service it's for the phone itself... nice. Has that ever happened before in the history of phones?
I'm not renting or leasing it. I bought it. I am paying Sprint for the service. And now I'm paying them a monthly charge to use a good phone? No thanks. It looks like a slippery slope to me.
I think I'll stick with my Hero.
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With 2GB caps announced at AT&T and rumors of Verizon following suit, be glad you can get truly unlimited Internet. Just wait until the Netflix app comes out and you will start streaming HD through your phone and outputting it over micro HDMI to your big screen TV.
The possibilities of this phone is staggering.
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Your right. Most of the 4 major carriers are cracking down on they data. att and verizon will soon cut or charge more for data. att already took out unlimited data.
Be happy that sprint really stick to they word and give you "simply everything"
Yes Simply Everything but EVO unless you pay an extra 10 bucks.
I have the HD2 on Tmobile in the US and have been using it, unlocked, with the web2go, Tzones, $9.99 plan for about a year and before that had a Kaiser for 2 years doing the same.
This morning my browser started automatically redirecting to a page telling me my plan is not compatible with my phone and demanding that I upgrade my plan.....
So much for having 2 lines, 700 minutes, unlimited data for $72.00 a month.
Has this happened to anyone else?
Same here at about 0800 hours, central time, i got the same message on the screen about my plan is not compatible with the phone, it keeps re-directing to that web2go page. :-( :-( :-( I have HD2 Tmo-us.
same here, cc told me that their servers killed the service for smart phones. they gave me a reduced internet package for $20 instead.
I'm going to wait a day or two and see if things come back, but if not, what did you have to ask for to get the $20 internet package?
Free lunch is over! Likely nothing you can do about this either, since it is likely detecting based off the IMEI of the phone, not only is there no known way to change the IMEI on the HD2, to do so would be illegal.
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I'm going to wait a day or two and see if things come back, but if not, what did you have to ask for to get the $20 internet package?
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The current $20 internet package offer is for "loyal" TMO customers. I am not sure how far you have to be into your contract to be considered a "loyal" customer, you may even have to have completed your contract and be out of contract. You likely also have to have had on time payments for a certain period of time if not for the entire duration of your contract.
Your best bet would be to call in and ask a CSR about the customer loyalty internet package, and if they claim to know nothing about it then ask to speak to retentions
I fit all of the conditions.
Thanks for the tips.
I thought it was just me. Well, no reason to stick around with tmobile anymore
I've got the same problem.
I'm usually quick to scream bloody murder and leave a company but this is different. We were taking advantage of a loop-hole that Tmobile was kind enough to be slow to fix. Even at $20 a month it's still cheaper than anything on Verizon or AT&T and doesn't require a new contract, I assume and hope (can anyone confirm that?)
I'm sticking with TMobile for now. Besides, I don't want to buy a new phone.
yup it's over...
yup it's over...
however, it doesn't seem to only be affecting branded "smart" tmous devices.....
supposedly iphones, and n1s have had their tzones cut...
*it shows my msisdn in the url upgrade page* so perhaps it is just line based....
I might as well switch because i get crappy reception with tmous at my school... however their 3g speeds seem to be the fastest....no iphone users bogging down the 3g network lol...
but still, 20 dollar for unlimited data doesn't sound too bad....
as for cdma networks.....questionable...
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I thought it was just me. Well, no reason to stick around with tmobile anymore
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And what is switching going to get you? a data plan that at least costs $10 more than what TMO provides? usage caps, tethering restrictions and overage charges for data? and an overloaded network in the case of ATT or in the case of Sprint/VZ a network that cant provide simultaneous voice/data?
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I thought it was just me. Well, no reason to stick around with tmobile anymore
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Go to AT&T and pay for a capped data plan.
Or go to Sprint/Verizon and pay for a new CDMA phone
Sorry to say it...but about time. You guys have been mooching off of this for years, and T-Mobile finally cut you off. Seriously, you guys really have no room to complain that you now have to pay...GASP...13 DOLLARS MORE A MONTH!!! Think about it, you have been screwing T-Mobile for years, so you have saved enough to pay that extra money. And to the dude talking about leaving T-Mo...uhm...lol que? Like the others have said, feel free to go to another carrier with data caps, more expensive unlimited plans or even non-existent unlimited plans. Listen people, 20USD a month for UNLIMITED 2G/3G/4G(ish) data+UNLIMITED un hinderded tethering=a really damn good deal.
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Think about it, you have been screwing T-Mobile for years, so you have saved enough to pay that extra money.
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I don't think that taking advantage of a known loop-hole should be considered "screwing" them. Think of it like taxes, it's your duty as a citizen of the US to take advantage of as many tax breaks as you can, legally. If you pay too much to the IRS, they aren't likely to tell you.
And I don't really think I, or the others adding value to the thread are complaining. I'm just trying to make sure I don't wind up paying for something I don't need.
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Sorry to say it...but about time. You guys have been mooching off of this for years, and T-Mobile finally cut you off. Seriously, you guys really have no room to complain that you now have to pay...GASP...13 DOLLARS MORE A MONTH!!! Think about it, you have been screwing T-Mobile for years, so you have saved enough to pay that extra money. And to the dude talking about leaving T-Mo...uhm...lol que? Like the others have said, feel free to go to another carrier with data caps, more expensive unlimited plans or even non-existent unlimited plans. Listen people, 20USD a month for UNLIMITED 2G/3G/4G(ish) data+UNLIMITED un hinderded tethering=a really damn good deal.
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your post is filled with win, and smothered in awesome sauce!
whiners need to gtfo, tmo was not meant for you anyway...
ashasaur said:
Sorry to say it...but about time. You guys have been mooching off of this for years, and T-Mobile finally cut you off. Seriously, you guys really have no room to complain that you now have to pay...GASP...13 DOLLARS MORE A MONTH!!! Think about it, you have been screwing T-Mobile for years, so you have saved enough to pay that extra money. And to the dude talking about leaving T-Mo...uhm...lol que? Like the others have said, feel free to go to another carrier with data caps, more expensive unlimited plans or even non-existent unlimited plans. Listen people, 20USD a month for UNLIMITED 2G/3G/4G(ish) data+UNLIMITED un hinderded tethering=a really damn good deal.
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Exactly.
Waah, you lost the $9.99 plan. Fine, leave T-Mobile. Have fun paying for tethering and dealing with data caps..
You guys who changed plans already should call back and get switched back. I still have my $5.99 T-Zones plan working fine with no browser redirects. It was some kind of maintenance snafu and all is normal now.
T-Mobile Web (Unlimited T-Zones) $5.99 Restoration
Confirmed to be working again on my HD2.
Yay for patience.
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Confirmed to be working again on my HD2.
Yay for patience.
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yay for starting a "wah" thread, then retracting it...lol.
Hi All,
I am purchasing a Xoom tomorrow morning, and I came to a stark realization today while browsing some other forums. I read that even with the no contract version that there is no true month to month data plan (ie the ATT iPad) and that it costs you $35 every time you want to activate it again. So if I use it for two months, decide to not for two, and then want to use it again, I have to pay a $35 fee. Can someone shed some light on this? I am REALLY hoping this is not the case.
Brock
Please search, this has been answered many times. Your description is correct. If you cancel the 3g service within 72 hours they will refund the activation fee.
I apologize, I did search, apparently not well enough, but that doesn't truly answer my question. I don't mind the initial fee, but will I have to pay it multiple times?
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I apologize, I did search, apparently not well enough, but that doesn't truly answer my question. I don't mind the initial fee, but will I have to pay it multiple times?
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Yes. Verizon isn't as kind with this plan as AT&T is with the iPad's month-to-month usage.
That is absolutely horrible... So basically, if you plan on using ANY data sporadically at all, you are better off getting the subsidized version... This is a bad thing for us consumers. I can't believe they would require reactivation multiple times.
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That is absolutely horrible... So basically, if you plan on using ANY data sporadically at all, you are better off getting the subsidized version... This is a bad thing for us consumers. I can't believe they would require reactivation multiple times.
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It's a shame. I didn't mind getting the 3g version when I thought I could just activate it when I need it, like the iPad. I have a Nexus One I can use as a hotspot in most cases. It's just a kick in the groin to know I'll have to add $35 to the fee if I ever want to use the 3g. In this case, it looks like I'll be turning the 3g off right after I buy it and only activating in case of emergency in the future.
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It's a shame. I didn't mind getting the 3g version when I thought I could just activate it when I need it, like the iPad. I have a Nexus One I can use as a hotspot in most cases. It's just a kick in the groin to know I'll have to add $35 to the fee if I ever want to use the 3g. In this case, it looks like I'll be turning the 3g off right after I buy it and only activating in case of emergency in the future.
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Thats probably what I'd do. But I'd imagine if you made an issue out of having to pay another activation fee (when reconnecting), they would drop it. After all, some money is better than no money.
Wow.. Thanks for the updates guys. I just actually called verizon to confirm this, and yup. This is absolutely horrible.. I hope they change.
This is absolutely insane, and has convinced me to not only not get a Xoom, but to drop Verizon altogether once my contract expires in November. The whole point of getting a tablet off contract is to be able to enable data whenever you want. I probably only have use for the data service 3 months (non-consecutive) out of the year, so this has convinced me to wait for a tablet on a carrier that won't screw me as badly.
Meanwhile, I encourage everyone to complain loudly to Verizon. Let them know you're not going to put up with it.
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This is absolutely insane, and has convinced me to not only not get a Xoom, but to drop Verizon altogether once my contract expires in November. The whole point of getting a tablet off contract is to be able to enable data whenever you want. I probably only have use for the data service 3 months (non-consecutive) out of the year, so this has convinced me to wait for a tablet on a carrier that won't screw me as badly.
Meanwhile, I encourage everyone to complain loudly to Verizon. Let them know you're not going to put up with it.
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yea im also leaving verizon, im trying to go att but my credit is bad and asked for 500 deposit on EACH LINE. so tmobile is what we are looking at now. We are going to switch once we move.
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That is absolutely horrible... So basically, if you plan on using ANY data sporadically at all, you are better off getting the subsidized version... This is a bad thing for us consumers. I can't believe they would require reactivation multiple times.
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Or tether wirelessly with an android phone.
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This is absolutely insane, and has convinced me to not only not get a Xoom, but to drop Verizon altogether once my contract expires in November. The whole point of getting a tablet off contract is to be able to enable data whenever you want. I probably only have use for the data service 3 months (non-consecutive) out of the year, so this has convinced me to wait for a tablet on a carrier that won't screw me as badly.
Meanwhile, I encourage everyone to complain loudly to Verizon. Let them know you're not going to put up with it.
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I don't believe any carrier for any tablet is going to offer a plan where you pay as you go. And if there is such a plan, I can bet you the price would be something like $5 for 250MB of data, or something that will truly not be worth it
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I don't believe any carrier for any tablet is going to offer a plan where you pay as you go. And if there is such a plan, I can bet you the price would be something like $5 for 250MB of data, or something that will truly not be worth it
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The iPad offers it through AT&T. It's one of the competitive advantages they still hold against all of these new devices.
just to clarify some of vzw policy about activation
kinda thinking about it the wrong way, if you want a data plan it needs a phone number.
that is basically where the fee goes to.
so if you disconnect the data the number is lost.
but per vzw consumer clear disclosure, reactivating within 60 days there is no activation fee. (this would also waive ETFs, if it had one)
to get around this, you can activate a phone.
saving money and not losing the number.
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just to clarify some of vzw policy about activation
kinda thinking about it the wrong way, if you want a data plan it needs a phone number.
that is basically where the fee goes to.
so if you disconnect the data the number is lost.
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When you cancel, wouldn't the number just go into the pool of available numbers? I'm not seeing how this should cost anything. (Also, AT&T doesn't charge an activation fee for the iPad)
but per vzw consumer clear disclosure, reactivating within 60 days there is no activation fee. (this would also waive ETFs, if it had one)
to get around this, you can activate a phone.
saving money and not losing the number.
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It's not exactly clear to me how that would save anything. Not only would that require buying another phone (useless to me), but it would require active service on it, which is, to my knowledge, no less than $40/mo--twice as much as the cheapest data plan.
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When you cancel, wouldn't the number just go into the pool of available numbers? I'm not seeing how this should cost anything. (Also, AT&T doesn't charge an activation fee for the iPad)
It's not exactly clear to me how that would save anything. Not only would that require buying another phone (useless to me), but it would require active service on it, which is, to my knowledge, no less than $40/mo--twice as much as the cheapest data plan.
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it doesn't immediately go back into the pool, thats why you can get it back within 60 days
if you look at where the money goes to its mostly a credit check.
but it's easer to think of it as getting the number
i guess before, i made a few assumptions, that you had a phone (non smartphone so no data requirement). and a family share plan already with vzw.
meaning switching from the data plan to a secondary on the family share plan. only 9.99
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if you look at where the money goes to its mostly a credit check.
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They should just do it prepaid like AT&T does for the iPad, with no credit check (but then I guess Verizon can't ding you for $20 when you go a byte over your allotment). It also doesn't make sense that they do a credit check on someone who is already a customer in good standing.
i guess before, i made a few assumptions, that you had a phone (non smartphone so no data requirement). and a family share plan already with vzw.
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I don't have any other phones and am not on a family share plan. I still wouldn't pay the $9.99/mo just for the privilege of not paying a $35 activation fee; in fact, it would probably cost me about as much as the activation fee anyway.
secondary activations are also $25 instead of $35
so if you, again my assumptions, activate a secondary phone its only 25.
then switch to the xoom and data plan.
just throwing out more ways to save money.
and btw, vzw will never do pay as u go data
i've regularly seen international pay as u go in the thousands.
I just can't believe that verizon would operate like this, esp since att has prepaid data for the iPad.. I'm sorta screwed, I don't have a family plan, and I only have a D1, and afk, xoom can't connect to ad-hoc.. plus it kinda defeats the reason for me getting the 3g Xoom anyway.
with the xoom it is being handled differently than the tab...
the tab was an accessory non subsidized meaning you could just purchase it.
but the xoom has to go through a different order process
needing an account and plan
if you don't have vzw, thats where the fee comes into play
if you do, there are ways to order it with out the fee (by ordering it for your current line, and taking it off afterwards)
Business owners only!
Call T-mobile and ask to be forwarded to their business department, tell them you're calling about the unadvertised 50$ a line unlimited business plan.
Verizon has the same plan as well, they're just not allowed to talk about you ask them about it; every company probably has this.
Has anyone else done this?
I will be very interested to see if this works for individuals as well.
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I will be very interested to see if this works for individuals as well.
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I'm an advocate of social engineering, call T-mobile and do the following:
1 ) Get kicked to a live representative
2) Tell them you were supposed to be forwarded to the business department
3) Once forwarded to the business department, tell them you were previously talking about switching all of your business lines to the unadvertised 50$ a month plan
4)Ask for plan requirements
5) Hang up until you can hash out wither you can provide what they'll want
Edit: I'm only posting about this because I think all phone carriers are scummy for having plans that they are not allowed to advertise but will give you it if you "know to ask" which is the epitome of 1%'ers giving themselves hooked up deals the general public (including small business owners/charities) do not know about.
I mean really, people who have a Paypal donation thing going can probably qualify to be on this plan as long as they are being taxed on their income.
I'm just wondering. Would this $50 business plan offer any benefits compared to their unlimited plan already, besides pricing?
Just wondering. Thanks in advance.
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I'm just wondering. Would this $50 business plan offer any benefits compared to their unlimited plan already, besides pricing?
Just wondering. Thanks in advance.
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Yes, the advertised unlimited plans are unlimited in the most basic way; after you've used a certain amount of data you are locked to 2G until the remainder of your service month even with advertised business plans and your speed will take a huge hit.
The difference with the unadvertised plan is that you can use 4G in a truly unlimited way; there will be no throttling or speed reductions whatsoever no matter how much data you smash down.
I mean I can confirm this exact same plan exists at T-mobile, verizon.. It might even be the kind of situation where all carriers have this plan in common since at the end of the day everything is owned by mostly the same people.
The thing is there is greed no matter where you look; from a human perspective if you are the provider of something you're going to want to give you and yours the best of what you have and try to avoid giving that quality to other people to keep it 'special'
It's not legally possible to have "VIP" plans, but it is legal to have an unadvertised plan people will not know to ask about unless someone tells them; the 'normal person' is further kept away from it because it's a "business plan" and you have to prove with tax forms and other things that you are a business owner.
I just wanted to talk about this as a middle-finger to providers which throttle which is everyone and also for people who are "technically" business owners in some way; or for people who are and weren't fortunate enough to be made aware that better things exist for them
So is there any way to get this plan without being an official business owner? I'm switching from Sprint SERO with 500 anytime minutes and unlimited text and data to T-Mobile, but I don't want to spend $80 for unlimited data if I don't have to.
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So is there any way to get this plan without being an official business owner? I'm switching from Sprint SERO with 500 anytime minutes and unlimited text and data to T-Mobile, but I don't want to spend $80 for unlimited data if I don't have to.
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You could pick up development and become self-employed
Tqr said:
You could pick up development and become self-employed
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Ha, I used to be self-employed and am a retired computer engineer/programmer, but it's not worth the hassle just to get free data.
JimSmith94 said:
Ha, I used to be self-employed and am a retired computer engineer/programmer, but it's not worth the hassle just to get free data.
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Depends what you'd be using it for
no unlimited plan
I called both carriers you mentioned they dont have such plan. Could you tell me how to get the plan on verizon please. The method you mentioned doesnt work.
You have choices with the new Pixel: The Un-carrier will give you back up to 50 percent on your new phone, all while rocking truly unlimited data on the fastest 4G LTE network in America
https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news-and-blogs/pixel-offer.htm
http://www.t-mobile.com/offer/google-pixel-phone-offer.html
Where did you get the details from? The announcement isn't until tomorrow.
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You have choices with the new Pixel: The Un-carrier will give you back up to 50 percent on your new phone, all while rocking truly unlimited data on the fastest 4G LTE network in America
https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news-and-blogs/pixel-offer.htm
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But if you look at the promotion it's $325 back over 24 months while you are spending $70 / month on their unlimited plan. Compare that to using that same phone on Project Fi at $20 / month plus $10 / GB data, money back if you don't use it. Quick calculation means you'd have to use 3 GB data or more to break even with the T-M plan. If you're a heavy user perhaps it would pay but for the casual wifi user it doesn't make much sense.
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But if you look at the promotion it's $325 back over 24 months while you are spending $70 / month on their unlimited plan. Compare that to using that same phone on Project Fi at $20 / month plus $10 / GB data, money back if you don't use it. Quick calculation means you'd have to use 3 GB data or more to break even with the T-M plan. If you're a heavy user perhaps it would pay but for the casual wifi user it doesn't make much sense.
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TBH project fi has is uses and its customer base but its not for everyone. While switching between lower tier tmo and sprint networks you get pauses and breaks. While on sprint its really bad. Thats just my opinion.
Especially good for exsisting Tmo customers wanting a Pixel anyways now get money back.
Personally Im on Cricket. But its a good option for those that think its Verizon exclusive and cant be used on Tmo networks.
Besides its good for Pixel owners, more pixels means more accessory support!
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Where did you get the details from? The announcement isn't until tomorrow.
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I was following John Legere's tweets all night/ morning..
https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnLegere
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I was following John Legere's tweets all night/ morning..
https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnLegere
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Ahh ok thanks.
I wonder if that applies to wherever you bought your pixel ie swappa.. Wonder if thats proof enough to qualify if you #BYOPixel and put it on Tmo One.
Whats their verification input IEMI?
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I wonder if that applies to wherever you bought your pixel ie swappa.. Wonder if thats proof enough to qualify if you #BYOPixel and put it on Tmo One.
Whats their verification input IEMI?
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Why would u pay $300 extra just to get it on swappa? Smh you'll only see $25 of that..if that... Smhhh still waiting for my pixel tho lol
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This one beat you by a minute
T-Mobile paying half of your pixel
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