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I know this is going to be made especially difficult with all the different software/combo's that can be loaded, but I have to post this up and see if any one else has seen this and if it might be hardware or software.
I have a HERMS 100 (8525). I first got the phone in April with WM5 (don't know which build they might have been on then) and which ever Radio was coming on them then. My battery would usually last 2 days with my avg use.
This has been the case threw upgrades until the last 2-3 months. I upgraded From one version of WM6 to VP3G's 2.X build of WM6 and I upgraded the radio to which ever version was the newest at that time (maybe 1.47 or 1.50). I Noticed a sudden drop in battery life, but the phone pretty much always made it a full day even with high use, so I didn't think much of it. I did notice about this time that sometimes the phone would alarm me and say it had 20% battery remaining, but if I rebooted the phone it would say 80 or 90% power remaining when it came back on and work fine the rest of the day.
The following has been over the last month. I upgraded to VP3G's 3.0 and again later to 3.6 and again to 3.62. I noticed the battery continued to degrade throughout this time. So I upgraded the radio to 1.54. The battery continued to go down hill at an even rate, but I noticed something else, the battery would not take very long to charge, but was dying faster and faster.
Well I started tracking and experimenting. Starting last week (no change in software or ROM's for the last 2 or 3 weeks) the battery would rarely make it through the day even when the phone was not in use any during the day (Granted I get no cell service at my desk at work, but I never have even back when the phone would last 2 days searching for signal). Most days last week it wouldn't make it 5 hours from being unplugged even when the phone wasn't in use. I decided to run the battery all the way down to where it wouldn't even turn the phone on anymore as I had heard sometimes you needed to do that after a rom upgrade. It did not help, but I noticed that the phone said the battery was fully charged within 2 hours from being completely dead.
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Today was the worst, I unplugged it after being plugged in all night. Unplugged it at 6:45am. I did not use the phone, it just stayed in standby (I hadn't even taken it out of standby any today. I am at work with no service (When I say no service, I don't mean sometimes it finds something, I mean no cell service from any carrier makes it past 10 feet of the front doors entering the building and I am about 150 feet from the closest wall to the outside). I grab the phone at around 10:30am to check on a meeting notice, clicked on the phone to wake up and the battery alarm alerted and the battery said I only had 20% power remaining. In 5 minutes of doing what I was doing the battery had gone down to 10% remaining (so the phone went from lost 90% of it's power, never being used in less then 4 hours). I went back to my desk, plugged the phone back in and within an hour I noticed the amber light on the front that I relate it to telling me it's charging had turned green, I unplugged it and checked it and the battery said it was full 100%. Could the battery really charge that fast?
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I know this would be easier if I could remember what radio and what version of WM5 came on this phone and loaded it back on and I am in the middle of downgrading the radio since I had ran WM6 with no battery issues separate from WM5 until I did that one upgrade with the radio. I guess I am curious if this could be a hardware (phone or battery) where it's not charging fully or if this seems to be a software issue.
I know all the factors that can be involved make this hard, but thanks for any responses you guys can give.

ok, how about this one, Is my battery screwed? I notice while I am using the phone the battery gets really hot. Today it did the same thing of all of a sudden saying I had 10% power after only using it for 5 mintues, rebooted the phone and now I am back to 70%.

Hi,
There's a lot on here about this problem. Have you read the wiki?
Some solutions you might try:
- turn wifi off.
- turn off all beams
- put in the fake server trick.
- search to see if you have any software that continuously polls the battery or is seeking an exchange server
- ensure all your apps fully close rather than minimise
- invest in a new battery.
WB

Thanks, I have gone through the wiki Continuasly since I got the phone in April, but with all the stuff out there, I could have easily missed something.
- turn wifi off - Never turn it on
- turn off all beams - Beaming disabled
- put in the fake server trick - Have to research that one
- search to see if you have any software that continuously polls the battery or is seeking an exchange server - have to check, don't have exchange server setup. I do have it checking emails every 15 minutes, but I never had any issues with that setting and the battery lasting a couple of days
- ensure all your apps fully close rather than minimise - X button set to close not minimize and I often check it to see whats running.
- invest in a new battery. - Will be doing that next. Just waiting to see what case I might get for Christmas.
Thanks again, I will research those other items.

I had a similar problem where the stock battery would only ever last for ~7-8 hours - even on standby. I got an extended life 3000mAh battery and that managed to last for about 14 hours.
I had a talk to HTC and they agreed to warranty claim it. I'm still waiting for it back... It was sent back to them on 14/11, and I'm still waiting.

Stop your device checking for emails for a few days and ses what happens. Definitely install the fake server trick. Activesync continuosly trying to do its dirty work can be a pain in the arsenal, at times.
Let us know how you get on.
WB

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Stop your device checking for emails for a few days and ses what happens. Definitely install the fake server trick. Activesync continuosly trying to do its dirty work can be a pain in the arsenal, at times.
Let us know how you get on.
WB
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Well I turned off email checks last night and disabled the radio this morning so it wouldn't search for signal when coming to work and set the phone on my desk. I never used it this morning, just had it sitting on my desk in standby, until about 4 hours after I took it off the charger and the phone buzzed me and when I checked the phone the battery said 0% remaining and the phone cut off a few seconds later (now I am sure if I would have turned it back on the battery would say something like 70%, but I didn't do that this time). I left the phone off and plugged it into the computer to charge, the LED on the front come on amber for about 20 minutes then went to green. I turned the phone on and it says 100%. I don't see how the battery went from 0 to 100 in a matter of 20 minutes.
I did a lot of searching the last couple of days and phone issues from email to bad manufactured batteries (which I happen to have the brand someone suggested as a bad one), I also saw people pointing out do the fake server trick, yet I can't find a single time where anyone said what the trick is or how to do it. Not even in the WIKI where the trick was mentioned as a possible fix (or google for that matter, just the same words first posted in a thread here about it).
So, how do you do this server trick?
I plan to get a new battery after Christmas at any rate.

Check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338421&highlight=fake+server+trick
I was having the same battery drain problem (less than 8 hrs on a full charge), I did the fake server and turned off auto day light saving time checking the clock settings, I now get 12 - 15 hrs on a full charge.
I'm running vp3G's 3.62.3 AT&T ROM with radio 1.54.07.00

Thanks! I was just finishing flashing a new ROM when I saw this. I did the fake server trick, but this rom doesn't have the Dya Light Savings time option where the instructions say it should be. Maybe that's all removed by this rom. TIme will tell.
Thanks again.

@ Firehawkns
hey buddy!!
I am using a JasJam for the last 2 months. i dont know if my reply is useful to you or not. As far as battery life is concerned am impressed with mine. Am using TNT's latest ROM and my radio version is 1.54.07.00. I use my phone all day with couple of calls that last about 2-3 min each. But every night I get calls from my gf, to whom I talk for 3 hours straight(mostly starting from 11pm to 2 am) and every day I put my phone to charge after I finish the call. So after finishing the call I still have 50% of battery. Moreover our call starts right after I leave work at 11pm so by the time I reach home which is around 11.30pm my phone connects to wifi too. So all the time am on the call as well as an active wifi connection.
So as per my experience the battery life is cool. So try TNT ROM!!!

Interestingly enough, now I've got my phone back from the warranty claim, it's only drawing 81mA with backlight on, no wifi or BT. Before sending it back, it was drawing ~180mA with backlight on, no wifi or BT.
This will just about double the battery life that I get in theory...
Install BatteryStatus on your device and see what it tells you.

That is a cool program.
First off I really hope it isn't the phone, for one it's my third one from Cingular since the first two died within 2 weeks (back in may), second it's got one big gash down the corner where it came out of the holder and hit the road one day. I think that would be just enough reason for them to not do anything with it.
Anyway, I am going to replace the battery because I can't figure out why the phone is doing things like saying it has 20% batt remaing, then I reboot and it goes to 70%. I am hoping this is a battery issue. So far the phone has been unplugged for a tad less then one hour, has not been used and the battery meter is on 90%.
Battery Status is a kick butt program and I plan to do some searching today to see if people have benchmarked there ratings/draw. I notice mine jumps randomly. With wifi, BT, all programs all terminated, backlight on the lowest it will go and radio has one bar 3g sometimes, two bars Edge sometimes, but didn't change during watching this list below, but the MA does this every 5 second refresh:
111--190----125-----109----250----210-----140----135----226---111---etc.
I am currently running a barebones fresh flash WM6 rom with nothing installed except Cingulars media net/ISP settings, radio is 1.47.10. Going to try 1.50 today I think.
I turned the radio off just now and the MA went down (expected) to 84 and is jumping between that and 104. The battery has dropped to 80% since I listed 90 above. The phone has now been unplugged for right at an hour. Also it might be interesting to note that the little battery percent/bar icon on the "Battery Status" software once in a while will display -1% like it is right now, the phones battery display says 80% and when I tap the battery icon on battery status it jumps to 80%.
Anyway, I am just listing points since this thread is here, I know I need to replace the battery first before any additional insight can be brought forward.
Thanks everyone.

Hmm.. On my Schaps 4.22full, radio 1.54.00 on good reception (on Finnish network) I get around 30 mA with GSM and 3G when idling(no wifi, no bluetooth, no beam, backlight around halfway). With airplane mode on I get around 28 mA. Tried with backlight dimmest and the drain was 15mA on GSM network.
Usually I put the 3G off so the battery would last longer.
The phone takes more power when searching the network so it would be a good idea trying to switch the phone part off at your office.

Well, looks like it was indeed the battery. Over the last week the phone would randomly shut off (about 4 times a day), the battery would be at 10% within 4 hours even if the phone hadn't been used, and while using the phone you could almost watch the battery go from 90% to 30% within a 5 minute talk time, reboot the phone and it would be back at 80%.
Put in the new battery yesterday after charging over night and the phone not only didn't shut off at any point, but I had 60% power remaining by the end of the day (with some data and voice use).
The old battery was a Dynapack from China, that I had read on here is prone to defects.
Thanks for the help everyone, wish I would have gotten a new batt sooner.

Battery ran down in standby

I left my nexus one, which I just got on Friday, next to the TV and it was fully charged. When I came back to it about 4 hours later it had turned its self off and wouldn't turn on until I connected the charger. The battery was at 0%, anyone seen anything similar?
I have now left the phone off, connected to an AC charger and will turn it back on only when it's fully charged!

Sounds like you got yourself a defective unit.

Charger it fully then let it completely die. After it dies charge it again fully see if that helps.

Charging via the USB cable does not seem to be very efficient/reliable. Using the AC charger is quite fast, and much more reliable.
Also check the apps that are running in the background, and turn off the ones you don't need. I discovered that the animated wallpaper was quite a drain... since I switched to a static wallpaper image, battery life has improved significantly.

It has the star field wall paper, but I didn't think that would run when the phone is locked and the screen was blanked. I'll leave it to fully charge, using an old nokia charger from a n85.
So the recommendation is to run it tomorrow until it dies then charge in the off state and only turn on when it's fully charged?
I have had a G1 for the last year.

n0ahg said:
It has the star field wall paper, but I didn't think that would run when the phone is locked and the screen was blanked. I'll leave it to fully charge, using an old nokia charger from a n85.
So the recommendation is to run it tomorrow until it dies then charge in the off state and only turn on when it's fully charged?
I have had a G1 for the last year.
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Yes, and use the charger that came with the N1.

n0ahg said:
I left my nexus one, which I just got on Friday, next to the TV and it was fully charged. When I came back to it about 4 hours later it had turned its self off and wouldn't turn on until I connected the charger. The battery was at 0%, anyone seen anything similar?
I have now left the phone off, connected to an AC charger and will turn it back on only when it's fully charged!
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I have the same problem. I got the phone approx. 1 week ago. before i go to work, I would have a fully charged phone. during lunch break break, ( about 4 hrs later from fully charged) its below half already! then 2 hrs later, its at to the point where it says connect your charger. Finally, off work, Phone is turned off and dead at 0% battery life. When im working, i dont even use the phone to browse or anything. just check the time on it and put it back on standby. I dont know whats wrong. Ive also rooted the phone btw with MoDaCo's rom. Any suggestions?

It was fulling charged again about 3 hours ago, not I've left it without wi-fi and with a static wallpaper and the battery is still full. I wonder if the wi-fi or the live wallpapers keep running even when the screen is off. I have checked and wi-fi is set to sleep when screen is off :-/

While modern batteries don't have the "memory" problems that cause them to lose life, they can suffer from miscalibration which will cause them to inaccurately report their remaining charge. If they report a very low charge to the phone (when this may not necessarily be true) the phone will probably turn itself off.
To recalibrate your battery, force it to drain completely. Even after the phone turns itself off, turn it on a few times more. I can't guarantee this is good for your phone, but it should get the last of the juice out. Then, when you let it charge, let it charge LONG after it reports being full, at least a few hours, to make sure it's completely full.

Sounds like something isn't quite right with your phone tbh. I have the star field wallpaper, wifi on and it's checking e-mails for 2 accounts every 15 mins.
I've also had some phone calls, been surfing the web, market and generally played around with it since I just got it on friday.
I checked the battery info on the phone now and it's been 15 hours since I charged it and it's now on 46% still. In my (limited) experience the battery seems to hold up pretty good on this phone.

That's the weird thing, it was fine Friday night and Saturday night and that was including quite a bit of playing with around

I received my phone last week. the battery was fine the first four days. after that the same problem stated above happened to me. the battery dies every 4 or 5 hours even in standby with no GPRS, WIFI or BT.
I did a complete wipe-out and the problem was gone.
I think that there were something that is draining the battery and gone with the wipeout.
by the way, i was using MCR and still using it.
thanks.

It has now been sitting for another 7 hours without wi-fi or starfield and the battery is still showing full. I'll now enable wi-fi and see how that goes. Then I'll try statfield later on. I'm wondering if the starfield keeps running even if the screen is blanked.
Actually it's showing 92% in the About page whereas the icon look full :-/

First day with nexus at work. Unplugged it from the main charge at 6:30 am at till 1:00 pm its was turned off. Made 3 short calls, no wifi, bluetooth, or gps and screen set to auto dim.
Only 6 1/2 hours is not long enough. I wish there was like a juice pack for nexus like the iphone. I could buy another battery but cannot be bothered carrying too many bits with me and opening it and changing.
Aslo charging through usb is very very slow.

my phone did this yesterday too, first time ever. I dunno why it drained so fast, something must have kept the screen on in my pocket or something.

Here's what I found.
I got my phone friday, took it off the charger and went to bed. When I woke it up was dead. What I do know is that since I'm with Roger's in Canada I don't get the 3G. I think it was searching for a 3G signal all night and that's what killed it. Try limiting it to 2G and see how the battery stands. I went a full two days without a charge, playing with it every chance I got and wifi turned on.

I'll try the 3g thing as the phone reception is poor in the room I left it. It is at 79% with the star fields wallpaper and wi-fi enabled (sleeps when screen off)

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It has the star field wall paper, but I didn't think that would run when the phone is locked and the screen was blanked. I'll leave it to fully charge, using an old nokia charger from a n85.
So the recommendation is to run it tomorrow until it dies then charge in the off state and only turn on when it's fully charged?
I have had a G1 for the last year.
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The star field wallpaper KILLS my battery even when the phone is idle with the screen off, just FYI... I switched to a default regular wallpaper and it has been fine since.

bradyonly said:
Here's what I found.
I got my phone friday, took it off the charger and went to bed. When I woke it up was dead. What I do know is that since I'm with Roger's in Canada I don't get the 3G. I think it was searching for a 3G signal all night and that's what killed it. Try limiting it to 2G and see how the battery stands. I went a full two days without a charge, playing with it every chance I got and wifi turned on.
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thanks i will try 2g setting tomorrow.

There gotta be something wrong with your phones or some software that is draining it.
Like I said on the previous page I use:
WiFi on
Star Field live wallpaper, with the background image nontheless
Some GPS use
Several phone calls
Some texting
Browsing the web
Screen brightness at maximum
2 email accounts updating every 15 mins
My battery still lives through the day with ease and I'm usually at 40% when I go to bed at around 1 am. I would call HTC or do a thorough check at what software is running.
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Oh and I have 3G on with low reception (1 bar) where I live.

Battery or Phone?

So to start out with here is what I posted yesterday from another thread...
"I got my HD2 last night. I used it for a bit right out of the box, went to bed and soon after I woke up in the morning it was dead.
My wife who also got her HD2 last night did basically the same thing. We both put our phones on the chargers. I was out doing yard work while mine was charging. My wife stayed inside and played with hers while it was on the charger. She unplugged it when it said it was done. When I came in from working I went to my phone and the light was green indicating a charged battery. I unplugged, turned on, it said 100% charged and started messing with it. Within minutes it said 4% battery life left and soon after it died. I then took it back in and plugged it back in. I turned it on this time to verify that it was charging. It stayed on the charger until it said it was 100% charged.
I have had it off the charger for 5 hours or so. I was using it a lot for the first hour or so, setting things up and getting it where I wanted it. I then left it alone and it has been sitting for the past 4 hrs. When I left it sitting it said it was at around 80% battery I believe. I just came back to it and it is again at 4% and telling me it is about to die. Then it did die.
I have gmail setup with activesync on default settings as well as direct push. I had done an end all with task manager just before I set it down. I do understand that the phone is active even when I am not using it but I would not expect this much battery drain.
I have the Stock Rom and the display auto dims on the default setting as well.
I love the phone but it seems like something is wrong with mine. Any suggestions?
BTW: My wifes HD2 is still running and has ~75% battery life left. She has been using it on and off for the entire day (10+ hrs) and wifi has been turned on the whole time too. This sounds more reasonable.
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I have been checking in on the phone periodically while it has been charging. It has been charging with the phone turned off. It seems to have taken ~1hr to charge 100%. The green light it on now. Is this a pretty standard amount of time for it to charge to 100%?"
So last night after I got my phone off of the charger I used it a good amount throughout the night. From 5:20PM until around 1:00AM it drained to around 60%. I thought that this was a good standard amount. I was using it in bed and before falling asleep to drain as much as I could because I wanted it dead in the morning. I just woke up and the phone was dead (so was my wifes). I went to plug them both in at the same time to compare charging times and and then I was going to compare battery life.
I plugged my wifes in and it started charging no problem. I then plugged mine in and it instantly started to boot up. It got to the boot screen and it started looping. It was stuck in a boot loop every time I plugged it into the charger. I swapped chargers with my wifes and it did the same ... but hers charged fine on the one mine was on. I ended up popping the battery out for a minute and then putting it back in. Put it back on the charger and it started to charge no problem.
I have experience with WinMo phones in the past and am used to/expecting some "quirkyness" but this seems like something is wrong. I am not sure however at this point if it is the battery or the phone. I am letting it charge now and planned on swapping the battery with the one in my wifes to see how it acts in a different phone. Any other suggestions? I love the phone but I want to know if there is a problem before the time for me to return it for another runs out. Thanks for any help.

It's the phone. The phone is having a considerable amount of issues. Some people are getting good, fine HD2s, other are getting bad seeds. Take it back, exchange for a new one.

Thank you for the input. I will add more to the story.
Both phones started charging at the same time. One (mine) was done charging in about 1.5 hrs. The second (my wifes) took closer to 2.5 hrs. I swapped the batteries and my phone turned on without problem, with my wifes battery in it. While hers seemed to have trouble getting going, I had to take the battery out and replace it before I could get it to boot. They are both up and running, with similar services running as well. I will continue to observe throughout the day to see how they drain in comparison to the other.
Is it possible that the phone is not charging the battery properly? If this is the case then my wifes phone would have worse battery life with my battery in it, but it would actually be my phone that would be the problem. I think that I am going to have to take both phones through at least one more charging cycle to see where the problem lies.
I am certainly leaning toward exchanging it for another though. What is the time limit for returning without question at T-Mobile US?

I have been watching both phones this morning. I have noticed that the signal strength on my phone bounces all over the place while sitting still on the table. My wifes phone sitting right next to it will generally hold a steady 2 bar 3G signal. This bouncing around of the signal strength and the searching for a signal is probably what is causing the battery drain. Just as I sit here and type this my phone has gone from a 1 bar EDGE signal to 3 bar 3G signal.
I have come to the conclusion that my phone is messed up and I will return it. I think that I have 14 days to make this return but I am not sure.

here are some battery saving tips that helped me, I hope the work for you without having to do a return
Turn wifi off when not in use, the 3g connection seems to use far less battery power. Also make sure establish data connection is turned off.
Turn off push and anything that auto downloads like weather and email.
Before locking the phone, open task manager and close pretty much anything open.
That should improve things greatly.

Thanks ... most of those I have done but it still continues to have the problem. I am not sure about the "establish data connection" though. I assume you are talking about the toggle in the wireless settings for "data connection". What exactly does this do? If it is switched off I assumed that it would not make a data connection at all. Does it instead keep a constant data connection when turned on?

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I am certainly leaning toward exchanging it for another though. What is the time limit for returning without question at T-Mobile US?
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14 days is exchange without question/problems.

NickPDX said:
Thanks ... most of those I have done but it still continues to have the problem. I am not sure about the "establish data connection" though. I assume you are talking about the toggle in the wireless settings for "data connection". What exactly does this do? If it is switched off I assumed that it would not make a data connection at all. Does it instead keep a constant data connection when turned on?
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It's just a switch to change states whenever you want to manually...if 3G is activiated by some program, the switch moves to "on", and you can go in there and switch it to "off" if you want to kill the 3G while it's not needed. It will stay off until either 1) you use that same switch to turn it back on, or 2) some app/process (weather update, gmaps, etc) turn it back on. There are cabs available if you want to keep 3G switched off to the point where even apps can't switch it back on, and they're forced to use EDGE.
And yes, any time that switch is "on", you're maintaining a live data connection with the network, which is a battery drainer even if you're not actively passing data for an app.

Battery Drain from WiFi

I'm sure there are others who have experienced this problem. Even though I show no wake locks my phone drains at an unacceptable rate while on my Wifi at home. My phone can have a 60% battery when I go to bed, and be almost dead by the time I get up. The only clue that shows up in Android System Info or Spare Parts is network usage by '0' which is something with root access.
This is happening regardless of Rom. I've tried stock, Syndicate Frozen, Urban Fury, Bonsai, Stock Plus, and maybe another I'm forgetting. They all drain the crap out of my battery with wifi on at home so obviously this isn't a rom issue.
This leaves me to believe that either something on my network is forcing data to my phone keeping it from deep sleep, or the router itself is the cause. Turning on my phone to 3G, my battery life is spectacular overnight. It deep sleeps like it's had a case of beer with a bottle of nyquil as a chaser before bed. 1% an hour.
So, I've ordered a different router to see if that's the issue. I've googled my current router which is a D-Link DIR-655 and seems like others have had similar battery drains using that router but no one can emphatically say it for sure is the router. Guess we'll see when the new router arrives if it is indeed the DIR-655. Otherwise the next step is disconnecting everything else that is connected to my network (3 computers, 2 printers, XBox, Wii and a Blu-Ray player. I just wanted to point out to anyone else having issues with wifi and weird battery drain, that it may not be the phone that is the problem.

I too have massive battery drain when using Wifi. It doesn't matter what Wifi network I'm attached to (work/home/friends/etc), I burn about 10% + per hour on idle; whereas on 3G is burning only ~2%/hour on idle. On stock, Wifi was my battery saving grace.
I've just given up on using Wifi for daily use. I use 3G for everything now.
I hope the newest version of SFR (whatever the new one will be called) will remedy this problem I have. I haven't posted about it in the rom thread since I had a feeling it was just my phone or another bad flash in CWM.

I've been using that OS Monitor app to try and find the problem. On 3G all the network interfaces have static receive and send amounts as long as I'm not doing anything that requires data. Connected to my home wifi, there is a constant trickle of data.
When I let the phone sit overnight, there was over 4mb of data received, even if I turn off any kind of auto syncs on the phone.

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Don't know if this will work for you but you can try. In the wifi settings click the menu button and select advanced then set the wifi to never sleep. I know it's counter intuitive but I went to sleep last night at 61% and woke to 57%. Wifi has been fine for me since changing that policy in the wifi advanced settings.

android_mp99 said:
Don't know if this will work for you but you can try. In the wifi settings click the menu button and select advanced then set the wifi to never sleep. I know it's counter intuitive but I went to sleep last night at 61% and woke to 57%. Wifi has been fine for me since changing that policy in the wifi advanced settings.
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Mine has been set at never sleep since I got the Epic in September, and I double-check after each custom rom flash. Good looking out though.

nikon120 said:
Mine has been set at never sleep since I got the Epic in September, and I double-check after each custom rom flash. Good looking out though.
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Same here. Mines always been set to never sleep.
Edit: I just tested my phone on my work's wifi network. CPU Spy says it's going into deep sleep just fine. OS monitor shows a static data received/sent number once I was connected. Obviously something about my home network is the problem.

android_mp99 said:
Don't know if this will work for you but you can try. In the wifi settings click the menu button and select advanced then set the wifi to never sleep. I know it's counter intuitive but I went to sleep last night at 61% and woke to 57%. Wifi has been fine for me since changing that policy in the wifi advanced settings.
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That is my general experience, too. These settings usually keep my WiFi usage low overnight.
But some nights, inexeplicably, I will wake up to find a large battery hit from WiFi. I don't think it is my WiFi router's problem, unless there is some outage duirng the night I am unaware of. Come to think of it, I had that problem last night but did not investigate early this morning before I left. When I get home, I will check with my laptop to make sure my router is running.

I have noticed this too and in particular over the past few days. I'm on the latest bonsai build which does have amazing battery life on 3G but now wifi does draithe battery much more than 3G. This never happened before. I have had my wifi set to never sleep. Any other suggestions?

Obviously haven't tested it overnight yet, but I shut down my one laptop and the constant data trickle immediately stopped. Right now it's looking like something my computer is running might be the culprit. Going to leave it sit overnight to see how it goes.

I found the cause of my drain! Narrowed it down to something from my laptop as when I shut my computer down at night, the drain would go away. The culprit was the HP Printer software for my wireless printer. Once I uninstalled it, the drain went away. Noticed in resource monitor that HPZinw12 was sending a constant stream of data from my computer. Why in the hell it would be also sending to my phone keeping it from sleeping seems pretty odd, but I recommend if anyone else who is having battery problems over wifi and happen to also have an HP printer, you might want to look into this as well.

I'd also add that my solution to getting rid of the problem and still being able to use my printer was just to uninstall the crappy HP software that came with the printer and add the printer through the control panel and let windows 7 install it. It doesn't throw on that HPZinw12 file that apparently polls the entire network constantly.

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I found the cause of my drain! Narrowed it down to something from my laptop as when I shut my computer down at night, the drain would go away. The culprit was the HP Printer software for my wireless printer. Once I uninstalled it, the drain went away. Noticed in resource monitor that HPZinw12 was sending a constant stream of data from my computer. Why in the hell it would be also sending to my phone keeping it from sleeping seems pretty odd, but I recommend if anyone else who is having battery problems over wifi and happen to also have an HP printer, you might want to look into this as well.
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Since I have been experiencing similar symptoms intermittently and I also have a WiFi printer, I have tried to eliminate this as a potential cause. (I don't run an HP control app on my laptop, but already map the printer directly in Windows 7 like you suggest.)
In my case, I still get the excessive WiFi battery drain, and low battery level upon waking, sometimes overnight. But other nights the problem does not occur. So lately I have made sure that my laptop and printer are powered down before bedtime. And like you, a always have my WiFi sleep policy set to "never" and have a strong WiFi signal. But last night I still had the problem, and awoke to find the battery drained to 45 percent instad of its typical 90 percent.
Interestingly, I noticed not only high WiFi battery usage but also high "Cell standby" usage attributable to the well-known Time Without Signal problem -- and this despite my habitual use of the Airplane toggle workaround, which usually works.
Somehow, something caused both WiFi and cell radios to go crazy overnight.
BTW, I run a stock, unrooted Epic.

So far with SRF v1.1.1, my Wifi is back to normal.
On my work network, I've dropped 4% in 3.5hours with my work email syncing every 15mins. So that's pretty good usage given that sync interval.
I also do not have a printer at home, so the printer bit wouldn't have been a cause for me.

While the printer thing took care of the biggest problem for me, I still don't get as good of battery life overnight leaving my phone on WiFi rather than 3G. There is still something my computer is doing that wakes my phone up occasionally, but at least I'm not going to bed with a 70% battery then waking up to a dead phone. At least I have it narrowed down to one computer (total of 3 on my network), as when I shut that particular one down battery life for my phone is back to 1% an hour while sleeping. If I had to take a guess at this point, might be something with media sharing as I use that one as my primary location for music/videos to stream via Windows Media Center.

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While the printer thing took care of the biggest problem for me, I still don't get as good of battery life overnight leaving my phone on WiFi rather than 3G. There is still something my computer is doing that wakes my phone up occasionally, but at least I'm not going to bed with a 70% battery then waking up to a dead phone.
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How do you know it is your computer? Have you tried just turning it all the way off?
Do you watch the services running on your phone? I routinely stop the DRM service, for example.
Except for the mysterious episodes when I experience this intermittent problem, my overnight battery usage is typically about 1 percent per hour.

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How do you know it is your computer? Have you tried just turning it all the way off?
Do you watch the services running on your phone? I routinely stop the DRM service, for example.
Except for the mysterious episodes when I experience this intermittent problem, my overnight battery usage is typically about 1 percent per hour.
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I've tested over a few nights with a mostly full battery off the charger and reset the timer on CPU Spy. The nights I shut that computer completely off, I get very little battery drain and the phone is mostly in deep sleep according to CPU spy. When it's on, the phone shows a good chunk of CPU at 800mhz and more battery drain.

Wifi prevents deep sleep

I've had my V20 for just over 2 weeks now and found something strange regarding wifi.
Normally I set my phone to keep wifi on, even when asleep because cell reception at my office is spotty and staying connected to WiFi used to keep the battery taking a hit during the day. But, I left my phone off the charger overnight last week and saw my battery drop 11% in just under 8 hours. That seemed higher than my old phones so I installed BBS to see if anything was misbehaving when I'm not using my phone. To my surprise, no apps were causing a large number or long duration wake locks but my phone was only in deep sleep for 25% of the night when left off the charger.
While I was testing different configurations I left wifi on, but set it to disable when sleeping and sure enough, my phone stayed asleep for 80%+ and the 8 hour drain dropped to 5%. I havent been able to find any other combinations of settings that get the phone to sleep.
Has anyone else seen thing on their V20?

Only 4% drop at worst over night with Wi-Fi left on here.

Hey shwnr11, thanks for the reply. Just to clarify, you had the setting "Keep wifi on during sleep" set to always as well?
I always have wifi on at home, but unless I set wifi to turn off when sleeping, I see the drain.

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Hey shwnr11, thanks for the reply. Just to clarify, you had the setting "Keep wifi on during sleep" set to always as well?
I always have wifi on at home, but unless I set wifi to turn off when sleeping, I see the drain.
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Does this help....see pic

Yep, that's the one. Different wording on the Verizon V20, but same idea. Guess I've still got some searching on my end!

nafran said:
Yep, that's the one. Different wording on the Verizon V20, but same idea. Guess I've still got some searching on my end!
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Could also be that I'm on a T-Mobile V20.

nafran said:
I've had my V20 for just over 2 weeks now and found something strange regarding wifi.
Normally I set my phone to keep wifi on, even when asleep because cell reception at my office is spotty and staying connected to WiFi used to keep the battery taking a hit during the day. But, I left my phone off the charger overnight last week and saw my battery drop 11% in just under 8 hours. That seemed higher than my old phones so I installed BBS to see if anything was misbehaving when I'm not using my phone. To my surprise, no apps were causing a large number or long duration wake locks but my phone was only in deep sleep for 25% of the night when left off the charger.
While I was testing different configurations I left wifi on, but set it to disable when sleeping and sure enough, my phone stayed asleep for 80%+ and the 8 hour drain dropped to 5%. I havent been able to find any other combinations of settings that get the phone to sleep.
Has anyone else seen thing on their V20?
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Im on a lg v20 with the same issue. My battery gets destroyed at work when i keep wifi on even with screen on iit driops 25 to 30 percent.