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Hi !
Does anyone actually know if android can be installed / flashed on current devices ? Or it's only for certain devices that come with it preinstalled ?
Please don't post things like: "i would love it if it did" or "omg, android is great"...
I'm looking for an answer from someone who actually knows or someone who knows exactly how this stuff works...
Thanks
PS: Menneisyys, i hope you'll post something
I don't think that you'll be getting your answer any time soon as nobody has seen the thing yet.
But i would speculate that as HTC is one of the partners, it might be possible. HTC probably wont reinvent their phones again for the android.
Not a programmer...
but i was listening to leo laport yesterday and it seems that ggls world domination strategy would be all including. so it seems very likely that they would allow some version of it for use on other phones.
http://techguylabs.com/radio/ShowNotes/Show403#toc5
At this point, since there there is no release yet and nobody has/can play with it, it's probably hard to say. However, knowing Google, there is a good possibility they will come out with an app that allows you to use your current phone (speculation).
I heard that Android based on some Java-sintacsys - maybe it is good for us?
Well, the SDK has been released, get it here: http://code.google.com/android/. A demo video is available on the page to show you what it's capable of thus far--looks promising. I'm no coder, but I wish someone would develop this for current HTC devices. As an incentive, Google launched an Android Developer Challenge (http://code.google.com/android/adc.html), where developers of "innovative, useful apps" can win up to $275,000.
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Well, the SDK has been released, get it here: http://code.google.com/android/. A demo video is available on the page to show you what it's capable of thus far--looks promising. I'm no coder, but I wish someone would develop this for current HTC devices. As an incentive, Google launched an Android Developer Challenge (http://code.google.com/android/adc.html), where developers of "innovative, useful apps" can win up to $275,000.
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I grabbed the SDk and got a basic hello world up and running. From what the video said and what I can glean from various sites. The Android OS is designed to run on existing hardware. I would imagine that includes HTC machines. Its a complete OS though not an app so I would imagine you have to blow away WM6 and put android on in order to take advantage of its functionality. The actual coding appears to be extremely easy.
I can see google or the community releasing a "shell" of Android.
The more people with it the more money for them. If you watched the video they are really trying to push the location based services from GPS, cell towers, IP address... can anyone say more cash for ads.
I wouldn't mind having it on WM and its open source so there a good chance we will see it.
Alpine would be perfect for Android
Alpine would be a perfect phone if recycled with android !!
Good processor, lots of mem and a big screen for touch sensasions!!
Is it a dream or could that become reality?
Is Android compatible with HTC Touch-style hardware or does it require the numberpad?
There is a linux-2.6.23-android-m3-rc20.tar.gz kernel file on the android google code project site, there is also ADB utility - Android Debug Bridge (comes with SDK), it has an option of flashing a device (over usb) or an emulator (which is also included in the package)...the question is how to compile that kernel and make it run on our HTCs, and what kindof boot loader does it require? Maybe guys from Xanadux know better
It's also interesting how JAVA is being used after becoming open source, it appears that android is mostly independent from the JAVA API, the only relevance I found was only basic stuff like java.util, java.io and etc (included in the android.jar)...
i think that android will work on htc devices because pretty much they are the ones that will be releasing the first devices preloaded with android and i think that white device was made from htc. I see a potential here so i ask some one to make a thread on porting android to any or a specific device. good luck and may the force be with you.
ps. i hope its a htc wizard
I'd say we'd be waiting to see the HDK come out before we can put it on our own devices, can't wait though.
A dream
The Android SDK includes an emulator, see here http://www.ohadev.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15
Quote: "It seems that the main binary is emulator; this includes a qemu-0.8.2, which runs (in system mode) the ARM kernel image at lib/images/kernel-qemu.
Two more images are mounted from lib/images : the system.img (which appears to be the rootfs, and userdata.img, which gets replicated (and mounted from there) at $HOME/.android/userdata.img."
This guy (http://mamaich.uni.cc/fr_pocket.htm) got Qemu compiled for ARM, buggy/crashing, no visible update for several years, see also here http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/in...e_to_running_ms_dos_8_12&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
Question: Anyone have any more recent news/experiences about Qemu on ARM/HTC?
So, theoretically one could try running the Android Kernel image from the SDK emulator on Qemu on PocketPC.
Even if it works (highly unlikely), this megasandwich AndroidImage->Qemu->PocketPC would probably be fantastically slow, with dodgy/absent I/O support.
Real solution is to wait for a modifyable Kernel which can run natively on the HTC ARM processor.
Did not someone from google mentioned at the day of the release that android will run on any ARM9 based device?
dirac said:
Real solution is to wait for a modifyable Kernel which can run natively on the HTC ARM processor.
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There is no such thing as "HTC ARM processor". All major ARM-based CPUs
are supported by Linux, it's the device drivers for external hardware that are
often missing because of the missing documentation.
cr2 said:
There is no such thing as "HTC ARM processor". All major ARM-based CPUs
are supported by Linux, it's the device drivers for external hardware that are
often missing because of the missing documentation.
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Im sure that HTC will release drivers for all their devices since they are partners in the Open Handset Alliance..
prodinho said:
Im sure that HTC will release drivers for all their devices since they are partners in the Open Handset Alliance..
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There are some doubts that the (future) drivers will be released as free software, and not some binary blobs like nvidia, ati and m-systems did it in the past.
Binary linux kernel drivers are evil
hi the sdk is out from for along time what the reasons for that (no port for any device) is that a hardware or the drivers are hard to find or there is no one know about it
i use galaxy s2 i9100 and i think it will work there is ubuntu touch port in there too
any developer is interesting about porting?
Firstly, do you even know what an sdk is?
Secondly, how does one port yet to be released software?
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They've taken a diff. path to Ubuntu, they're not riding on the coattails of Android like Ubuntu.
Ubuntu has almost it's entire stack based on Android, so it's relatively easy to port to other Android devices.
Some of that stack is changing, but the lowest lvls still remain very much the same...
There won't be truck loads of ports of Sailfish to any old Android device, you'll have to wait for the 1st Sailfish devices.
Most people make the assumption that it's being developed on the N9/950, it's not, it's merely being demoed on them.*
Jolla has their own internal hw on which the entire stack is (properly) developed...
*plus some UX testing/developing
The SDK has only been out a few weeks...
That's irrelevant, there simply won't be a great deal of ports to Android devices.
Unlike the android sdk, the sailfish sdk, does not give the option to virtualise an ARM device on PC, it uses x86 directly, so if there is any porting to be done it will be done to an x86 device, like intel based laptops/desktops for example, the only android device that could get it now, if anyone would port to it would be the Motorola Razr i, the last time I asked the sailfish team (via the support email address), they said they had no plans to virtualise ARM device to run sailfish on PC yet.
That doesn't smell completely right, a better explanation could be offered by stskeeps (Carsten) himself.
I'll ask if he can offer up a complete explanation here, or in his blog at some point...
*Update*
He did not wish to post here, but I had an IRC chat with him, maybe later if I have time, I'll summarise everything explained & post it here.
He preferred that I didn't just copy/paste our convo verbatim, as much of it was his personal opinion, & didn't represent official co. stance.
Hello everybody, i'm very excited with Cyanogen's new way and i must to say that it be a huge community for the device that i solicite support.
It's a device with an awesome hardware, but, sure you know, Android OS came from China isn't very good, i hope you regard my request.
Thanks to all of you (and sorry for my quite bad english).
As an CUBE U30GT2 owner, It will be a mircale for cube U30GT2 users if you will make a rom for our device.
Cube Android os is owful, crush and stuck.
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It's a device with an awesome hardware
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Rockchip is about as far as possible from awesome as you can get from a developer perspective. RK3066 is an utter and total nightmare to work with, I assume 3188 will be equally bad.
I've attempted a bringup of RK306u6 with Codeworkx before. While someone else might be able to do a neat bringup, it won't be me working on it, I'm afraid.
The RK architecture was horrendous, I'm afraid, and had a lot of design compromises (ie. no wifi and ADB at the same time, etc)
Hi,
things have changed a bit since the rk3066.
Rockchip recently released the kernel sources and there is some work that has been made, especially by omegamoon, Galland and aloksinha2001 (take a look here : https://github.com/omegamoon/Rockchip-GPL-Kernel).
Although there are some modules that are always closed sources. :d
Given the number of Android PC Keys that run through a SoC Rk3188, it would be interesting for omnirom to work on it, or even to work in parallel with the above mentioned developers to give it a try and bring a true clean android experience, especially with the multi-window feature that would be a huge improvement in those products.
Regards.
First time post so wasn't allowed to post where I would have liked http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2401002
I actually installed the Android on Intel Architecture onto my Samsung xe700t a few times over the last few months, adjusting windows 8 or android options to suit my needs, but a few days ago I decided to format my laptop and reinstall Windows 8 and reinstall Android as I have previously, I am now getting this error message at the very end of the android installation process:
fatal: assertion failed bootable/iago/plugins/gummiboot.c:gummiboot_execute:154 'efibootmgr encountered an error (status 100)
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I have googled this and I can't find a solution
I have updated the bios, I have made sure my laptop is in UEFI format, I have made secure the BIOS isn't in secure boot, I have tried various USB sticks, I have also made sure the USB stick is first in the boot order.
So have no idea why I can't install Intel Android onto my pc anymore
Can anyone help me with this issue?
Nope because you just posted into a windows 8 general section.
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Nope because you just posted into a windows 8 general section.
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Well that is helpful? Where would you like me to post it then?
I will delete the post and move it to where you suggest
@OP
Actually, you are supposed to post your question(s) here, because dev forums normally aren't intended for tech support--hence the no-newbie-posting restriction. The thread you referred to isn't a dev thread per se--there is no developer here for said software--and it's kind of a free-for-all for adopters. Because all the Win8 forums here are basically dead, on-topic rules aren't enforced as they would be on a forum with heavy traffic.
In any case, take time to read before asking questions. In the thread referenced, people have ran into the same error, and some have figured out it's a boot order issue (post #64).
I am very aware of people having the same issue and that it can be caused by a boot order issue, but none of the solutions posted have worked for me, I am giving up on it, I have decided to go with dual booting Android X86 as it seems to be more compatible with more Android Apps, the Intel version is very limited what apps will work on it.
>the Intel version is very limited what apps will work on it
They're all limited, with basically zero support. A quick Google search would show that interest (per the attendant volume of discussion) in Win/And dual-boot is limited to a very small number of enthusiasts. Then, peer help is minimal, and self-help is your main recourse.
Do realize that questions like "why doesn't XYZ work on my PC" is an exercise in futility, if only because of the infinite permutations of Windows boxes. If you can't find the solution via a search, then no one can help you, even if they were willing--and most aren't. When it comes to geek things like dual-boot, there is no patience for handholding. No offense.
Win/And dual-boot may yet get official vendor support, if rumors of dual-boot boxes are realized. Certainly, Intel is pushing for such, since the Atom is in the unique position of supporting both platforms. But business politics are aligned against it, and more importantly, end-user demand is non-existent.
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I have decided to go with dual booting Android X86 as it seems to be more compatible with more Android Apps, the Intel version is very limited what apps will work on it.
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Not a clue what you are on about there, they both suffer from the same app pool issue.
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SixSixSevenSeven said:
Not a clue what you are on about there, they both suffer from the same app pool issue.
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Wow you are certainly making me feel welcome on this board SixSixSevenSeven?
The Intel version of Android is 4.2 (Jellybean) while Android X86 is 4.4 (Kit Kat)
So far I have been able to run all Google apps on 4.4 without any issues which I couldn't do on the Intel version.
I am now happily playing Injustice: Gods Among Us on Andorid X86 which I also couldn't do on the Intel version.
I have only had Android X86 2 days and I haven't found an app I can't run on it yet so I am really happy with it, would recommend it to anyone looking to run Android on their PC.
Very cool! i had tried androidIA on my xe700T1C and as fast and slick as it was i could barely run any of my apps, also had wifi issues. Bluestacks, as neat as the concept is, is dog slow and now it nags you to install apps to keep using it.
my setup is a bit unique as i have Win8.1/Ubuntu installed now, wiped AndroidIA since it was pretty useless, so we'll see how i can make it a tri-boot.
richdean77 said:
Wow you are certainly making me feel welcome on this board SixSixSevenSeven?
The Intel version of Android is 4.2 (Jellybean) while Android X86 is 4.4 (Kit Kat)
So far I have been able to run all Google apps on 4.4 without any issues which I couldn't do on the Intel version.
I am now happily playing Injustice: Gods Among Us on Andorid X86 which I also couldn't do on the Intel version.
I have only had Android X86 2 days and I haven't found an app I can't run on it yet so I am really happy with it, would recommend it to anyone looking to run Android on their PC.
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Do you have an older Android device? If yes, do you still use it in any way? ?, Share your story here.
Android OS is dynamic (I'd say unstable ?). The device you are buying today might become older enough in a couple of months in terms of the Android version. However if you're lucky to have a truly rich and supporting community, your device will be alive for an eternity.
In the revolution of Android ecosystem, you would possibly like to upgrade your device after major Android updates. Or you have to be satisfied and hanker after the newer Android features otherwise.
Now it's time to share mine ?. I got a local, cheap Jellybean device, when I was introduced to Android in early 2014. Now I have still that Android 4.2 device which I love more than the prettier material design or even the notification dots and others.
I have been using that device for my development purpose for a long time alongside my primary device. As I used it in my first step to Android root, mods, hacking and the system insight. I still remember the day I got this device into bootloop for the first time ?. Those days have passed away.
Now I am learning and developing Android apps. Since my laptop is even smaller than its small configuration (? You can call me a poor guy), it is quite impossible to test and debug apps on Android emulator while running Android studio in parallel with 4GB of RAM and i5. So, I started using my old friend as a helping hand in development. I keep it connected via USB while developing my apps, run and test them with it which frees nearly 700MB of RAM on my tiny machine and boost the build time also. For other Android versions, I have to do them on emulator separately ?.
What you're thinking of me I don't care ?. The phone is much more to me. Feel free to share yours...
What is your phone name and model?
Have you installed a custom rom on it yet?
What are your apps which you have developed?