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[Q] My awesomely unrootable Nexus 4 (4.3)

Cheers all, I posted this in the big question thread, but it's just getting buried, so I though it's own thread might bring out a response. Anyway, here's the problem:
Unlocked phone no problemo. But rooting is not going so good. Had to fight to get the latest TWRP loaded (openrecovery-twrp-2.6.0.0-mako). Needed to use this string.
fastboot -c "lge.kcal=0|0|0|x" boot openrecovery-twrp-2.6.0.0-mako.img
Which worked fine and got me into the menu where I flashed the superuser.zip file. That proceeded ok (although the first attempt, when I clicked the box to verify the signature, it failed), and I rebooted. Yet this phone is still not rooted - apps requiring root fail, such as Titanium. But superuser is flashed onto the phone, it's in the app list.
Any ideas? I'll take anything at this point. I don't even care if it's about cellphones. Just tell me something, lol.

saison said:
Cheers all, I posted this in the big question thread, but it's just getting buried, so I though it's own thread might bring out a response. Anyway, here's the problem:
Unlocked phone no problemo. But rooting is not going so good. Had to fight to get the latest TWRP loaded (openrecovery-twrp-2.6.0.0-mako). Needed to use this string.
fastboot -c "lge.kcal=0|0|0|x" boot openrecovery-twrp-2.6.0.0-mako.img
Which worked fine and got me into the menu where I flashed the superuser.zip file. That proceeded ok (although the first attempt, when I clicked the box to verify the signature, it failed), and I rebooted. Yet this phone is still not rooted - apps requiring root fail, such as Titanium. But superuser is flashed onto the phone, it's in the app list.
Any ideas? I'll take anything at this point. I don't even care if it's about cellphones. Just tell me something, lol.
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I'm not ENTIRELY sure, but from what I've heard 4.3 causes a lot of problems with root and only one superuser app even works. I'm not sure which one, but it's possible you're using a superuser apk that doesn't work on 4.3.

Try going to Developer Mode > Root Access and change it to Apps and ADB.

IDK about the rest but SuperSU works fine on stock 4.3

thanks, will try this stuff out

moffa~ said:
Try going to Developer Mode > Root Access and change it to Apps and ADB.
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Does not appear to be a Root Access option.

3rdstring said:
IDK about the rest but SuperSU works fine on stock 4.3
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OK, I've got that copied into the 'sdcard', but should I remove the old superuser app before installing this one? Not sure how to do it, as it won't delete from the apps menu, it will only give me the option to disable.

saison said:
Cheers all, I posted this in the big question thread, but it's just getting buried, so I though it's own thread might bring out a response. Anyway, here's the problem:
Unlocked phone no problemo. But rooting is not going so good. Had to fight to get the latest TWRP loaded (openrecovery-twrp-2.6.0.0-mako). Needed to use this string.
fastboot -c "lge.kcal=0|0|0|x" boot openrecovery-twrp-2.6.0.0-mako.img
Which worked fine and got me into the menu where I flashed the superuser.zip file. That proceeded ok (although the first attempt, when I clicked the box to verify the signature, it failed), and I rebooted. Yet this phone is still not rooted - apps requiring root fail, such as Titanium. But superuser is flashed onto the phone, it's in the app list.
Any ideas? I'll take anything at this point. I don't even care if it's about cellphones. Just tell me something, lol.
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If you're on a JWR (Stock) ROM, flash this: http://d-h.st/sDt
If you're on a JSS (AOSP) one, flash this: http://download.chainfire.eu/345/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.51.zip
Good luck!

Tanmaynarang said:
If you're on a JWR (Stock) ROM, flash this: http://d-h.st/sDt
If you're on a JSS (AOSP) one, flash this: http://download.chainfire.eu/345/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.51.zip
Good luck!
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Managed to get it with SuperSU 1.51 as mentioned above. Although I had to do it twice, lol. After flashing and rebooting, I started Titanium, and SU asked if i should grant permission. While thinking about this, the window timed out, and Titanium would not work, nor did the sytem appear rooted, until I reflashed SuperSU and started again. This time, I granted permission for Titanium, and all's well. For now. I guess.:silly:

Yeah for some reason Superuser and 4.3 don't mix very well. SuperSU works fine though, I had to flash it too to get PA 3.92 to work properly. I was really worried that I'd lost all my data since Titanium wasn't working and my CWM backup had failed but ultimately it all worked out.

Accidentally deleted gallery

So when I was going about freezing and deleting thing I mistakenly deleted the gallery instead of freezing it since I was switching over to quickpic. I have the note 3 gallery.apk and I placed it in the systems/pri-app with the following permissions (RW-R-R) I rebooted and it showed up and when I tapped it it force closed before it even opened but it did have me sign back into my google account so I'd have all my photos. I even fixed permissions using rom manager and still no go.
I am rooted on 4.4.2 on T-mobile and have twrp recovery but I'm on a stock rom.
Thanks

Try to clear data and cached from app manager? Let it rebuild again.
Sent from somewhere under the sky, at the corner of this rounded earth.

Ok I'll try that.

Tried that and it didn't work.

Any other ideas?

Tried a full ROM non-wipe reflash in Odin?

B3311 said:
Tried a full ROM non-wipe reflash in Odin?
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Hadn't. So just like flash a stock rom without wiping anything via odin? I only ask because last time I actually was flashing roms was on my HTC One via recovery.

whymista said:
Hadn't. So just like flash a stock rom without wiping anything via odin? I only ask because last time I actually was flashing roms was on my HTC One via recovery.
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Yep. Any missing stock/system .apks will be reinstalled and you shouldn't lose any data. Probably best to do a backup first, and flashing the same stock ROM as your current one should minimise the already small chance of anything messing up.
Actually, can't see any reason not to use TWRP for the flash either, since you already have it.

B3311 said:
Yep.
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I won't have to re-root though or will I?

whymista said:
I won't have to re-root though or will I?
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Sorry, crossed posts. I don't think you'll have to re-root but am not 100% sure, I'm not on a stock ROM.

B3311 said:
Sorry, crossed posts. I don't think you'll have to re-root but am not 100% sure, I'm not on a stock ROM.
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Yea I couldn't remember its been a while since I flashed roms but I don't ever remember having to re-root when flashing them. I'm just trying to find a rooted stock 4.4.2 rom now

whymista said:
Yea I couldn't remember its been a while since I flashed roms but I don't ever remember having to re-root when flashing them. I'm just trying to find a rooted stock 4.4.2 rom now
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if you reflash stock firmware, u will need to reroot again.
Though u never do a full wipe. The supersu is there, but the binary is gone (can't install the binary).

whymista said:
I won't have to re-root though or will I?
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If you flash the stock rom with Mobile Odin Pro you`ll keep root (if you check Everroot, superSU and Mobile Odin)

antique_sonic said:
if you reflash stock firmware, u will need to reroot again.
Though u never do a full wipe. The supersu is there, but the binary is gone (can't install the binary).
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Thanks. Yea I got it and the gallery back!:good:

Well it sort of works. It allows me to view pictures open and close albums and at first would allow me to multi select albums or picures but now as soon as I long press one it gives me the unfortunately gallery has closed message and I cleared the data/cache to no avail.

does the latest SMT530NU Samsung account update break root?

just wanted to know before I went and installed it, the prompts are starting to drive me insane!

Ianlmt said:
just wanted to know before I went and installed it, the prompts are starting to drive me insane!
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The prompts are meant to have that effect. root your tab and make a backup of your stock rom.
then navigate into system and destroy the offending software that's nagging you. You don't have any need for the ota.
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moonbutt74 said:
The prompts are meant to have that effect. root your tab and make a backup of your stock rom.
then navigate into system and destroy the offending software that's nagging you. You don't have any need for the ota.
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I thought they were meant to nag the hell out of you!... Are there any roms for the T530NU yet? Where would I go to delete Samsung Account app?

Ianlmt said:
I thought they were meant to nag the hell out of you!... Are there any roms for the T530NU yet? Where would I go to delete Samsung Account app?
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in /system/app or /system/priv-app
the icon in the nag/notification will probably look familiar.
just back up your stock rom first, that way if you goof while debloating
you can restore. i have my debloated/deodexed t530nu rom on androidfilehost, signature in link.
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ALWAYS keep a backup of your full stock rom.
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I install the Samsung Account update on mine, it did not break root.

It broke root on my sons tab, His young sister pressed the update button as soon as it finished updating root was gone and towelroot wouldn't work on it anymore.

New marshmllow bug fix update

Just got a little update

How to install this patch update on rooted phone? Is it possible to make a stock recovery and unroot without losing any of data?
Thanks

Hitman said:
Just got a little update
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I did try to install it, the file downloaded and phone rebooted... then Prince's recovery screen loaded up, forgot I rooted the phone the other day using his excellent "Lenovo K3 Note Manager" tool
I might unroot my phone another day and try to install it again. The only thing bugging me about the marshmallow update is a problem I'm having with bluetooth streaming, songs aren't resuming when I disconnect/reconnect they restart. I doubt this update will fix it anyway, from what I've read it might have to wait until 6.0.1 is released..

crh66 said:
I might unroot my phone another day and try to install it again......
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Did you unroot your phone using a fabulous Lenovo K3 Note Manager 3.0? What about replacing TWRP with stock recovery? Does Note manager replace it automaticaly?
Thanks a lot, A.

pentaxon said:
Did you unroot your phone using a fabulous Lenovo K3 Note Manager 3.0? What about replacing TWRP with stock recovery? Does Note manager replace it automaticaly?
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I used version 3 to root the phone, but I haven't tried unrooting it yet.

After update the wifi is very stable and i am getting the full bandwidth that my ISP provide.

Any way this update can be packaged as an update.zip ??
My phone is rooted and on TWRP (s422 clean rom)... I would rather not unroot, and redo the stock recovery, just for this update, but I am getting data connection drops after power cycling.

Phat Phreddy said:
Any way this update can be packaged as an update.zip ??
My phone is rooted and on TWRP (s422 clean rom)... I would rather not unroot, and redo the stock recovery, just for this update, but I am getting data connection drops after power cycling.
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Use this Slick S424 ROM: http://www.needrom.com/download/slick-s424-row/
Make a complete backup via TWRP and follow the instructions below, than restore only data partitions you made before. Works like a charm

Thanks... Did that (not seamlessly) and its currently just updating my apps..

Phat Phreddy said:
Thanks... Did that (not seamlessly) and its currently just updating my apps..
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After updating, I found some issues. One of them is Ebay client - does not work anymore :crying:

Isn't there a way to replace the updater script from the original lenovo 4mb 424 update with a modified one so it works with TWRP?

But how sir give me updater scripts

I just flashed the s424 TWRP backup over my S422.. worked fine.. Kept root and TWRP.

Hitman said:
After update the wifi is very stable and i am getting the full bandwidth that my ISP provide.
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So was your phone rooted?
Did you lose the root access after updating or was it still there? AFAIK this update shouldn't do anything to root, but you can never tell

Phat Phreddy said:
I just flashed the s424 TWRP backup over my S422.. worked fine.. Kept root and TWRP.
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What did you use to flash over TWRP? did you modify update script inside the update file?

http://www.needrom.com/download/slick-s424-row/

shinudgr8 said:
So was your phone rooted?
Did you lose the root access after updating or was it still there? AFAIK this update shouldn't do anything to root, but you can never tell
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I was on stock Indian ROM and not rooted.

Moving to Mi A1

I have always rooted and used Titanium Backup to set up a new phone but this time I want to leave it alone, more and more apps are checking for root and certified/uncertified, last week I could not even get a PizzaExpress app because it needs 6.0+ & unrooted (had to unroot my old S2 on Lineage), I have decided I want my banking apps back and other things I lost over the years, so no root or customising (yet! hehe).
With that in mind what is the best way to restore, obviously Google will take care of a lot of it but things like call logs, sms, bluetooth, some app data, in the past I would selectively use Titanium to restore anything I found missing but without root, what to use? Helium, mi mover or something else.
My S4 is rooted but stock right now so calls, SMS, rejection lists even wallpaper is synced with Samsung, I guess there will be no way to access these backups from the A1

You can root via Magisk. It doesn't break the SafetyNet. Moreover, you can hide it from certain apps. All the banking apps work if you root via Magisk.
Edit: Here's the link to the thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a1/how-to/root-mi-a1-oreo-8-0-disabling-ota-magisk-t3728654

darkpegasus said:
You can root via Magisk. It doesn't break the SafetyNet. Moreover, you can hide it from certain apps. All the banking apps work if you root via Magisk.
Edit: Here's the link to the thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a1/how-to/root-mi-a1-oreo-8-0-disabling-ota-magisk-t3728654
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I did see that and did think about it, it's been a bit cat and mouse hiding root for years now and I can only see it getting worse as android secuity ramps up, I thought I would keep this phone clean as long as I could resist
I might go with the root, I could always remove it again I guess.

You will not resist for a long time, you know that, all of us know that
I bought this phone today online and expect to receive it within days and I was thinking exactly like you, then log on to XDA 10 minutes ago searching for rooting threads to be ready when I receive it

darkpegasus said:
You can root via Magisk. It doesn't break the SafetyNet. Moreover, you can hide it from certain apps. All the banking apps work if you root via Magisk.
Edit: Here's the link to the thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a1/how-to/root-mi-a1-oreo-8-0-disabling-ota-magisk-t3728654
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When it arrives, it should come on N, so I guess I could root it with Magisk, get it up and running how I like it then restore the boot image, remove Magisk and allow the O OTA and everything will be 100% stock again?

kudos1uk said:
EDIT: When it arrives, it should come on N, so I guess I could root it with Magisk, get it up and running how I like it then restore the boot image, remove Magisk and allow the O OTA and everything will be 100% stock again?
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Yup. Magisk does not touch system files. It will be 100% stock without any issues.

2363 said:
You will not resist for a long time, you know that, all of us know that
I bought this phone today online and expect to receive it within days and I was thinking exactly like you, then log on to XDA 10 minutes ago searching for rooting threads to be ready when I receive it
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You are right there lol
I am starting to think we are beginning to lose more than we gain, I comes to something when a stupid pizza shop app checks for root!

darkpegasus said:
Yup. Magisk does not touch system files. It will be 100% stock without any issues.
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Thinking about this and reading the thread, does Titanium not need Busybox installed? busybox installs to "system" and would stop OTA?

kudos1uk said:
Thinking about this and reading the thread, does Titanium not need Busybox installed? busybox installs to "system" and would stop OTA?
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I just installed Titanium Backup without installing busybox and it works. (Busybox maybe included in the custom ROM I've installed, I dunno).
I think you are being unnecessarily cautious about Root. Almost all the banking apps work even when Magisk is installed. You can enjoy root without worrying about the safetynet.

darkpegasus said:
I just installed Titanium Backup without installing busybox and it works. (Busybox maybe included in the custom ROM I've installed, I dunno).
I think you are being unnecessarily cautious about Root. Almost all the banking apps work even when Magisk is installed. You can enjoy root without worrying about the safetynet.
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Thanks for that.
I'm comfortable with root now after loads of reading of that thread but was just being cautious no to allow any app to change the system folder once root is running.
I also see this method of root cant be used on N so my idea of rooting / restoring / unrooting and upgrading to O will not work so I will just upgrade to Oreo / root / restore and then decide if I want to keep root or not.

kudos1uk said:
Thanks for that.
I'm comfortable with root now after loads of reading of that thread but was just being cautious no to allow any app to change the system folder once root is running.
I also see this method of root cant be used on N so my idea of rooting / restoring / unrooting and upgrading to O will not work so I will just upgrade to Oreo / root / restore and then decide if I want to keep root or not.
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Yup, you can upgrade to Oreo, root, and restore.
Also, if there are any issues afterwards, you can always flash the official fastboot ROM by MiFlash Tool without wiping your internal storage.

IjazCI said:
Hi there, you could root with magisk , restore your data then flash stock rom through mi flash tool . Make sure to select the "save user data " option before flash. This way you will be 100 % stock and take ota's.
I suggest you to enable the camera 2 api using set prop method by flex1911 ( the one which doesn't uses magisk) before flashing stock rom.
Cheers
Edit : my advice is literally Same from the guy above. Didn't see that. . Saw your post , think that i can help and replayed
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Thanks, I think I will just have to devote a good long time to this, at least I will have both phones side by side so I can keep trying all the restore methods known