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Aparently the CPU may only be clocked to 800Mhz........
If you got this from the Au website, Whirlpool, than I think they are talking about the iPhone 4, not the Galaxy S
well it's from the galaxy s thread and one of the guy who's doing the testing and stuff for samsung says this......definitely not iphone.
Guess just wait and see when it's released I suppose
huh? wat are you guys talking about? its 1ghz cpu
forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1409745&p=58#r1152 is the link to the post where the user suggests it is 800mhz underclocked.
Yh, sorry, was reading a thread where they were talking about the iPhone being underclocked, just reading more, it seems it may be the case.
Will mean battery last longer, not such a bad thing, as long as it doesn't effect any of the performance of the phone
If they say 1Ghz then it is 1Ghz or else they're going to have a lawsuit on their hands. Nothing in between(except of course scaling).
I have the galaxy s and im pretty sure its 1ghz.. at least system panel tells me its 1ghz but singapore set are all 16gb model.
information from system panel:
ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7I)
bogomips 797.90 (may vary)
min clock 100mhz
max clock 1000mhz
on Nexus one using pershoot kernel but cpuset at 245mhz - 998mhz, it shows:
ARMv7 processor rev 2 (v7I)
bogomips 662.40 (may vary)
min clock 245 mhz
max clock 998mhz
so maybe the 8gb are down clocked?
Doubt the 8Gb version would be clocked lower. Thanks for posting your findings!
It's just the power of forums and the internet, allowing mis-information to spread at the speed of light
lol yep, looks like he was confused at the sliding clock speed....
when i ran quandrant standard it read armv7 processor rev 2 , max 1000 min 100
set frequency 800
is that normal
regards
It's 1 GHz, I checked the clock frequency with a monitoring application and it's dynamic but when required it clocks up to 1 GHz.
Intratech said:
It's 1 GHz, I checked the clock frequency with a monitoring application and it's dynamic but when required it clocks up to 1 GHz.
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thanks for clearing this up
regards
Wait, what?
The iPhone 4 may be clocked at 800mhz?
Can someone give source on this?
Pika007 said:
Wait, what?
The iPhone 4 may be clocked at 800mhz?
Can someone give source on this?
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I don't have a link to that claim, but I think it was Gizmodo in their testing of the iPhone 4 and iPad noted the iPad did feel faster and the web browser rendered pages faster, despite both using the A4 processor. They hypothesised that it is the same architecture CPU in both, but different clock speeds.
After all, to get 10 hours out of the iPad the teardowns and x-ray scans show about 80% of the volume inside is all battery. If the iPhone 4 and iPad had the same processor, you'd think the iPhone's battery would be pretty bad considering the far smaller volume (although smaller screen not sucking as much power).
Wouldn't be surprising. After all, the Motorola Milestone / Droid has a mild underclock, as does the Acer Liquid to preserve battery life.
Probably cheaper for Apple to only have to manufacture 1 chip (the A4), but clock at different speeds appropriate to each device's battery life.
Apple doesn't focus as much on specs though, more that the user interface feels fast and smooth. If it achieves that purpose no need to worry about numbers, whereas since we have so much choice of handsets on Android specs do make a difference for us to know depending on our needs (eg: price vs performance vs battery).
My Samsung Galaxy S is running at 800mhz it sucks... i flashed it last night with the final build of 2.2 I9000XXjP6 for the Galaxy does anybody no how i can overclock it to 1ghz thanks People
The Galaxy S has a 1 GHz CPU. However, the clock speed is lowered while not needed to save battery life, just like on any modern PC. By default it is using the conservative governor.
The iPhone4 never was supposed to get a 1 GHz CPU. Apple never disclosed the number. But those who made benchmarks estimated the clock speed at about 800 MHz since is is about 20% slower than the iPad.
There is a Galaxy Lite version in some other countries that only maxes out at 800 Mhz
i think the guy reviewing the phone got it mixed up with that
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There is a Galaxy Lite version in some other countries that only maxes out at 800 Mhz
i think the guy reviewing the phone got it mixed up with that
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He might have got mixed up, but the final 2.2 build for the Samsung Galaxy S is maxed out at 800 MHz for some stupid reason…. I’m going to flash it tonight again with a earlier build of 2.2 as I did some bench test and its only scoring a measly 900 points with the latest firmware installed.. Were as before it was scoring well over 2k…
Which is the better GPU and why ?
I'm not sure of the technical reasons why, maybe people are just going off benchmarks, but the general consensus is that Adreno 220 has better gaming performance.
However, unless you are planning some hardcore gaming; Mali-400 MP or GeForce ULP will be just fine.
MALI-400 MP is imo a faster GPU but it really lacks stuff needed to be a good GPU. Also on the low level some of the major 3d scores are even lower than Adreno 205. So the quality here sucks. It misses many compression texture formats so low compatibility. Most games will come up with a solution for that but with time and that time could really end the life cycle of the gs2. Mali 400 is slower than adreno 205 in Geometric Tests, Common Tests, Exponential Tests. Adreno 220 will be a slightly slower GPU in synthetic tests but with more compatibility, better quality from the lower level, more texture compression formats and will be compatible with all games since start as adreno gpu games are already abundant in the market. So its more like a Samung delivered the fastest GPU with major flaws. Here Adreno 220 is like ATI and Nvidia and Mali-400 is like any other generic GPU from another company. And Galaxy S 2 coming in tegra 2 would really mess up the compatibility of Mali-400 seeing that Mali will be missing the number of devices so Mali - 400 could be a left out here.
Right now the game here is a Faster GPU (by a small margin) vs a more Compatible GPU. Better - if u can wait with no definite future mali and if u want everything now and in future its adreno
With CF working on compat I wouldnt be surprised if we're all playing Tegra Zone next month.
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With CF working on compat I wouldnt be surprised if we're all playing Tegra Zone next month.
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I agree. (10char)
Samsung's Galaxy S II Preliminary Performance: Mali-400MP Benchmarked 1Ghz Mali 400
Dual Core Snapdragon GPU Performance Explored - 1.5 GHz MSM8660 and Adreno 220 Benchmarks 1.5Ghz Adreno 220
Should give you a rough idea of what to expect.
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Samsung's Galaxy S II Preliminary Performance: Mali-400MP Benchmarked 1Ghz Mali 400
Dual Core Snapdragon GPU Performance Explored - 1.5 GHz MSM8660 and Adreno 220 Benchmarks 1.5Ghz Adreno 220
Should give you a rough idea of what to expect.
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No, it's not even close.
My Galaxy S II scores 42.2 fps in the same benchmark, Adreno scores an impressive 38 fps but this is with the CPU at 1.5GHz.
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Samsung's Galaxy S II Preliminary Performance: Mali-400MP Benchmarked 1Ghz Mali 400
Dual Core Snapdragon GPU Performance Explored - 1.5 GHz MSM8660 and Adreno 220 Benchmarks 1.5Ghz Adreno 220
Should give you a rough idea of what to expect.
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No, this one is not accurate.
Just look at the firmware, SGS2 was running Android2.3.1 at the time, it was not a retail device.
Retail SGS2 outperforms anything currently in GLbench.
"Originally Posted by iwantandroid
I cried when I lerned this phone i got from tmobile didnt have Android. Can sum1 help me get Android on my new G1 and then tel me how to jailbroke it please"
LOL OMG
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Samsung's Galaxy S II Preliminary Performance: Mali-400MP Benchmarked 1Ghz Mali 400
Dual Core Snapdragon GPU Performance Explored - 1.5 GHz MSM8660 and Adreno 220 Benchmarks 1.5Ghz Adreno 220
Should give you a rough idea of what to expect.
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these tests are kinda misleading, between non-final device/software and capped framerate
i'm a bit disappointed that it comes from anandtech since they usually try to have stuff all squared out on PCs ;-)
lol, you guys are very defensive about your phones, understandably.
What you should be able to ascertain though is that the 1Ghz Mali benchmarks are decent and you can expect better performance with it clocked at 1.2Ghz.
Conversely you should be able to see that the Adreno at 1.5Ghz, though impressive, will be less so clocked at 1Ghz like in the Sensation, which will also have a higher resolution screen.
I only provided the links so that people could make up their own mind by using the same logic.
Are you sure the Mali-400 is clocked at 1.2Ghz ?
Because when I overclocked my SGS2 to 1.5Ghz I saw a 25% performance increase in computing performance, but almost no increase at all in graphics performance (using GL Benchmark), so I thought the frequencies of the two were totally unrelated.
I dont know what the clock speeds of the GPU are, but CPU speed bumps will also help with 3D performance.
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I dont know what the clock speeds of the GOP are, but CPU speed bumps will also help with 3D performance.
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Well in my case it did not. I guess a dual core 1.2Ghz CPU is not a bottleneck on a smartphone lol.
Ive heard there are FPS caps on the Galaxy line, not sure how true this is, usually benchmarks should see an increase when handsets are overclocked.
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Ive heard there are FPS caps on the Galaxy line, not sure how true this is, usually benchmarks should see an increase when handsets are overclocked.
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its true for the sgs1 and 2 at least, frame rate is capped between 56 and 66 fps depending on kernels/versions etc
many benchmarks hit the cap (like quadrant)
According to the review of Anandtech, the Mali T760 GPU on our Galaxy S6 has a unused 852 Mhz clock state. Normal speed now is 772 Mhz. Hopefully, this can be enabled in future in custom kernels to better drive those 2k displays. I wonder why they didn't enable it default as the SoC on 14nm should handle the temperature. More speed Ahead i hope.
"There's also a suspicion that Samsung was ready to go higher to compete with other vendors though, as we can see evidence of an 852 MHz clock state that is unused. Unfortunately deeply testing this SoC isn’t possible at this time as doing so would require disassembling the phone"
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9146/the-samsung-galaxy-s6-and-s6-edge-review/2
That's cool! Maybe they didn't enable it to safe battery?
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That's cool! Maybe they didn't enable it to safe battery?
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Perhaps, with custom kernel we can maybe turn off 2 A57 cores and ramp up to MAX GPU 852 Mhz, that'll be sweet.
Actually the test on the battery page proved that the GPU is throtteling when it targets the maxium frequency
"The one major issue here that is visible from the FPS vs time graph is that Samsung continues to struggle with graceful throttling as the GPU attempts to always target maximum performance, which causes a strong rise and fall in frame rate as the GPU goes through periods of high and low clock speeds determined by the thermal governor."
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Actually the test on the battery page proved that the GPU is throtteling when it targets the maxium frequency
"The one major issue here that is visible from the FPS vs time graph is that Samsung continues to struggle with graceful throttling as the GPU attempts to always target maximum performance, which causes a strong rise and fall in frame rate as the GPU goes through periods of high and low clock speeds determined by the thermal governor."
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I think this only happens on sustained push by the benchmark app, i doubt it'll be same behaviour on real world usage. But in any case custom kernels will provide various tweaks and alternative governors to try.
They have also hidden 4 frequencies on the larger cores. They are at 2.2 even though they can go up to 2.5.
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They have also hidden 4 frequencies on the larger cores. They are at 2.2 even though they can go up to 2.5.
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Exynos 2.1Ghz not 2.2Ghz...
SD810 2.0Ghz
Sent from my SM-G920F
ama3654 said:
I think this only happens on sustained push by the benchmark app, i doubt it'll be same behaviour on real world usage. But in any case custom kernels will provide various tweaks and alternative governors to try.
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DVFS is sadly in effect all the time limiting the frequency. You can check it yourself by opening CPU-Z in multiwindow (only way to display frequency of the mali gpu) and running a game. Only thing that is going to let users run customised settings is xposed with DVFS disabler + custom kernel.
I want to raise question is it possible to overclock the CPU, or GPU or memory speed. We all know that ze550kl / z00l performance with msm8916. Is almost in the limit to run apps and games, wanted to know if possible or not, and if there is any development has this respect. I like the device and it is great but it is clear that it is getting weak in the matter of hardware, if someone can work in this respect to give a breath / power to our device
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I want to raise question is it possible to overclock the CPU, or GPU or memory speed. We all know that ze550kl / z00l performance with msm8916. Is almost in the limit to run apps and games, wanted to know if possible or not, and if there is any development has this respect. I like the device and it is great but it is clear that it is getting weak in the matter of hardware, if someone can work in this respect to give a breath / power to our device
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i don't think so , if its possible to overclock the processor to its frequency,
you can costumize it too max frequency of it or to lower , as u need
But if is then i would love like to know too
I am already extracting the maximum, from him that I can of him, already put using ex kernel, with governor ordenad, frequency of 200mhz @ 12000mhz, and simple GPU ordered frequency of 200mhz to 400mhz, active zram of 512mb, and entropy of 128/256, then Of course, here with standard frequency of the paddle extracting nothing more than that, the problem and that we have a large bottleneck in memory lpddr3 of 533mhz, that opera and 32bit, there is a single channel giving bandwidth of 4.2gb / s that It has to be split between CPU and GPU. What is clearly one of the pro soc power limiter, I do not know much about the arm architecture, but I can not do over clock in lpddr3 memory, since I did not see any software or tutoring Citing this. Although this would be a solution, if you do over clock in the CPU or ns GPU will force the clock controller up what will increase the memory performance consequently, something else, not good will lock the clock at maximum in 1200mhz and GPU at 400mhz, as there will be a large power consumption and the performance will be limited by the cords of the tempering control and the low frequency of the RAM, # excuse me to have been so far more enthusiastic about hardware,
even with my old htc explorer i could increase cpu clocsk from 600mhz to 900mhz why we cant do it on zenfone 2 just we need good developer and kernel
it's up to the hardware
If you look at the specs from qualcom it has a max speed and not every device is possible to reach the max, but if you have the proper kernel you can reach that speed and "overclock"
ok so as we know the xt has a Qualcomm snapdragon 616 cpu, the GPU frequency is 550mhz as max but everytime i see the stats it stays locked at 400mhz no matter what you task you do. Is there a way to override the frequency lock and make it reach 550mhz?? i think that would make the phone feel smoother and handle intensive tasks even better. Hope i get an answer soon.