I have read a lot but I remain confused about how I should go about this as there is a lot of different methods and some conflicting information.
I'm hoping by asking this question someone might clarify the best way forward.
I have a UK Note 3 (non branded) 32GB which I currently have rooted with Towelroot. It's still on JB - N9005XXUBMJ3_N9005OXABMJ3_BTU
It's Knox 0x0 at the moment.
I've lived with it for a while not upgrading to Kit Kat taking OTAs for fear of losing my root. But now I'm looking at upgrading.
The questions are
1) what is the best (safest) method to go about this from JB to 5.0 presuming I am no longer worried about the Knox flag tripping?
2) If possible to keep knox 0x0 what method is best (safest)?
3) Should I avoid any method that uses PIT files? Some do and many people say this is dangerous and not necessary?
As far as knox flag staying at 0x0 there are a fair few threads that claim you can keep it at 0 but it's hard to figure out whether one needs to go to Kit Kat first or it can be done directly. eg.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/general/root-root-xxufnf4-stock-firmware-knox-t2840150
talks about only going from 4.4.2 not 4.3. I guess because I've stayed on JB not many people assume anyone is still on it.
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Hello,
I recently picked up a Canadian Galaxy S4. This is my first android device after using an iPhone 4 for the last 3 years. I'm a tinkering kind of guy so when I heard about the whole custom ROM community for the s4, I was excited. I've been reading up on this for the last 3 weeks and I still have a couple questions that I haven't really seen a solid answer for specifically regarding the 1337m model.
1) If I root it would be nice to be able to reverse things should I need to send it in for warranty repair. I understand that triangle away isn't working on the latest MG1 firmware (which my device came with). I know that the ME7 update on the US version included a bootloader that no longer allowed downgrading firmware. Is this the case with the Canadian models as well? If it is possible to downgrade are there any special steps that need to be taken, or can I just flash a stock MDJ image via odin/heimdall
2) I have read the whole thread about the issues with the knox warranty void efuse. I checked the download mode on my phone and it does not have any of the knox info on it, so as I understand it, knox isn't enabled and therefore as long as I don't update to new stock firmware and I shouldn't trip the efuse. I have disabled auto-update in the settings. Is there anything else that I should do or be aware of to make sure that my phone doesn't update and force the knox stuff on my phone.
At the end of the day, if my warranty is permanently void, that's fine, but if there's a way that I can still keep the ability to restore my phone to 100% stock without tripping and binary counters or efuses I'd like to make sure that I know and understand how to do that before I start flashing custom roms rather than trying to figure it out in a panic if something goes wrong on my device.
Hi,
I am trying to understand what are the issues with knox, and it got fixed by the hackers? I raed lots about it in XDA main news page and in the relevant posts but still confused......
I read a lot that Developers don't like Knox.
But I also read and found out that Devices with Knox can be rooted, and from what I understood was that the only issue is - that the counter get 1 so the company can see you rooted your device and then no warranty.
Second thing was that Knox devices cannot downgrade their rom? is it true? what will happen when I will try to flash via odin a lower version?
3. Custom roms - so if a adevice has a knox, it cannot get a custom rom?
Thanks!
I can't find any reference to "root vega" by searching this subforum, so I'm asking.. please be gentle if this is covered elsewhere. I know URDLV is available for the Note 3 on sprint and can be used to gain root on a stock rom without tripping the Knox warranty bit, and am wondering if it's possible to use it to flash a rooted, stock MJA or MK2 ROM onto the Galaxy S4?
I have a completely stock phone, just bought it last week and foolishly applied the OTA update without checking the forums first so I now have the Knox bootloader and have a knox counter in download mode. I've read that you can flash a rooted stock firmware on a Sprint Note 3 without tripping the knox bit and want to know if anyone out there has successfully flashed a stock MJA or MK2 firmware using the URDLV method on a Sprint Samsung S4.
I know I have a snapdragon processor, and that URDLV doesn't work with the Exynos chip, so I'm hoping that it since it sounds like it'll work in theory, that a brave soul has attempted this and can share any info. I only want root, I'm fine manually uninstalling the crap I don't need and I'm okay with using the stock rom, I just want root and know that if i use CF-auto-root that i'll trip the counter, or if i use Vroot I'm potentially using a piece of software that might have malware or spyware in it (the cons to using VRoot are all over the forums).
Anyone out there who can share their insights or experience? Thanks!
1. I'm still on 4.3, My baseband is N900TUVUBM17, I would like to root WITHOUT tripping Knox.. Is this at all possible at this juncture? If so, what method should work? (I can follow directions, I just need confirmation)
2. I need 4.3 or 4.4 stock for when I eventually turn this phone back in for the JUMP program to get the Note 4, is there a link somewhere?
3. Are most ROMs for the Note 3, 4.3? And if there are 4.4 ROMs, can I flash those if I root my phone on 4.3? I'm interested in SlimKat mostly with Lean Kernel.
4. I heard that flashing a kernel or ROM will trip Knox, so how does one go about doing any of this without tripping it?
5. I thought t-mobile had a flash counter when you turn your phone in (different from Knox), is that true? And can it be reset? If so how?
I'm not new to rooting, and I have read these forms before making this topic. I just need mostly a confirmation on what has worked for people with the same baseband as me..
As always, thank you!!
t3tr1s_ said:
1. I'm still on 4.3, My baseband is N900TUVUBM17, I would like to root WITHOUT tripping Knox.. Is this at all possible at this juncture? If so, what method should work? (I can follow directions, I just need confirmation)
2. I need 4.3 or 4.4 stock for when I eventually turn this phone back in for the JUMP program to get the Note 4, is there a link somewhere?
3. Are most ROMs for the Note 3, 4.3? And if there are 4.4 ROMs, can I flash those if I root my phone on 4.3? I'm interested in SlimKat mostly with Lean Kernel.
4. I heard that flashing a kernel or ROM will trip Knox, so how does one go about doing any of this without tripping it?
5. I thought t-mobile had a flash counter when you turn your phone in (different from Knox), is that true? And can it be reset? If so how?
I'm not new to rooting, and I have read these forms before making this topic. I just need mostly a confirmation on what has worked for people with the same baseband as me..
As always, thank you!!
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Check This thread to see if you can root without mesing with KNOX
It doesn't matter what Samsung software is on the device when you exchange via the JUMP programme from what I am aware, so long as it's original Samsung TouchWiz
There's loads of ROMS for 4.3 and 4.4 - however the 4.3 are not updated so much now if at all - AllianceROM currently still support 4.3 and is a very good ROM - There is plenty now for 4.4 - and I mean plenty, @civato does some great kernels also and his ROM FlexKat is pretty great. - XNOTE is another big ROM for 4.4 as is Omega and SweetROM all of which are just great. You have to try them to get a feel of which you prefer though
Kernel flashing/Custom recovery flashing will indeed trip your KNOX. There is(was?) a method in the General section about how to do it safely via Mobile Odin PRO. but you'd have to read up on that.
As for the T-Mo counter, I cannot comment on that as I do not have an N900T however you can look @ the T-Mo forum for more answers which is HERE
Root De Late Vega will allow you to root without tripping Knox, provided that you do not update the phone.
After rooting you can use mobile Odin to flash 4.3 version MJ7 but you cannot update to KitKatt if you wish to keep both root and Knox 0x0. KitKatt has a new bootloader which is patched against the Vega exploit.
Sammobile.com is the place to find sock firmware. To Vega it you'll need the stock BMI7 firmware for your device to begin.
You must not flash any custom recoveries or kernels if you wish to keep Knox intact either.
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Hello everyone. ive been searching these forums for quite a while and can safely conclude that theres no way for me (ATM) to root my note 3 without tripping knox.
i have a N9005 running the NC2 firmware, on 4.4.2
now i want to know is, if i flash a custom recovery and firmware ONLY, without flashing a custom ROM, can i still use KNOX (the app) ?
all i really want is root access, im quite happy with the ROM and performance ATM.
very sorry if this has been asked already, i couldnt find anything about it
thanks everyone
that0guy said:
Hello everyone. ive been searching these forums for quite a while and can safely conclude that theres no way for me (ATM) to root my note 3 without tripping knox.
i have a N9005 running the NC2 firmware, on 4.4.2
now i want to know is, if i flash a custom recovery and firmware ONLY, without flashing a custom ROM, can i still use KNOX (the app) ?
all i really want is root access, im quite happy with the ROM and performance ATM.
very sorry if this has been asked already, i couldnt find anything about it
thanks everyone
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Any attempt to modify/temper the phone should render the Knox invalid thus Knox 0x1 as a flag that no Knox security warranty can be established on such devices.
Rooting is considered an attempt to modify the system.
So simple answer is No....
You root you can't use Knox app...