1. I'm still on 4.3, My baseband is N900TUVUBM17, I would like to root WITHOUT tripping Knox.. Is this at all possible at this juncture? If so, what method should work? (I can follow directions, I just need confirmation)
2. I need 4.3 or 4.4 stock for when I eventually turn this phone back in for the JUMP program to get the Note 4, is there a link somewhere?
3. Are most ROMs for the Note 3, 4.3? And if there are 4.4 ROMs, can I flash those if I root my phone on 4.3? I'm interested in SlimKat mostly with Lean Kernel.
4. I heard that flashing a kernel or ROM will trip Knox, so how does one go about doing any of this without tripping it?
5. I thought t-mobile had a flash counter when you turn your phone in (different from Knox), is that true? And can it be reset? If so how?
I'm not new to rooting, and I have read these forms before making this topic. I just need mostly a confirmation on what has worked for people with the same baseband as me..
As always, thank you!!
t3tr1s_ said:
1. I'm still on 4.3, My baseband is N900TUVUBM17, I would like to root WITHOUT tripping Knox.. Is this at all possible at this juncture? If so, what method should work? (I can follow directions, I just need confirmation)
2. I need 4.3 or 4.4 stock for when I eventually turn this phone back in for the JUMP program to get the Note 4, is there a link somewhere?
3. Are most ROMs for the Note 3, 4.3? And if there are 4.4 ROMs, can I flash those if I root my phone on 4.3? I'm interested in SlimKat mostly with Lean Kernel.
4. I heard that flashing a kernel or ROM will trip Knox, so how does one go about doing any of this without tripping it?
5. I thought t-mobile had a flash counter when you turn your phone in (different from Knox), is that true? And can it be reset? If so how?
I'm not new to rooting, and I have read these forms before making this topic. I just need mostly a confirmation on what has worked for people with the same baseband as me..
As always, thank you!!
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Check This thread to see if you can root without mesing with KNOX
It doesn't matter what Samsung software is on the device when you exchange via the JUMP programme from what I am aware, so long as it's original Samsung TouchWiz
There's loads of ROMS for 4.3 and 4.4 - however the 4.3 are not updated so much now if at all - AllianceROM currently still support 4.3 and is a very good ROM - There is plenty now for 4.4 - and I mean plenty, @civato does some great kernels also and his ROM FlexKat is pretty great. - XNOTE is another big ROM for 4.4 as is Omega and SweetROM all of which are just great. You have to try them to get a feel of which you prefer though
Kernel flashing/Custom recovery flashing will indeed trip your KNOX. There is(was?) a method in the General section about how to do it safely via Mobile Odin PRO. but you'd have to read up on that.
As for the T-Mo counter, I cannot comment on that as I do not have an N900T however you can look @ the T-Mo forum for more answers which is HERE
Root De Late Vega will allow you to root without tripping Knox, provided that you do not update the phone.
After rooting you can use mobile Odin to flash 4.3 version MJ7 but you cannot update to KitKatt if you wish to keep both root and Knox 0x0. KitKatt has a new bootloader which is patched against the Vega exploit.
Sammobile.com is the place to find sock firmware. To Vega it you'll need the stock BMI7 firmware for your device to begin.
You must not flash any custom recoveries or kernels if you wish to keep Knox intact either.
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I can't find any reference to "root vega" by searching this subforum, so I'm asking.. please be gentle if this is covered elsewhere. I know URDLV is available for the Note 3 on sprint and can be used to gain root on a stock rom without tripping the Knox warranty bit, and am wondering if it's possible to use it to flash a rooted, stock MJA or MK2 ROM onto the Galaxy S4?
I have a completely stock phone, just bought it last week and foolishly applied the OTA update without checking the forums first so I now have the Knox bootloader and have a knox counter in download mode. I've read that you can flash a rooted stock firmware on a Sprint Note 3 without tripping the knox bit and want to know if anyone out there has successfully flashed a stock MJA or MK2 firmware using the URDLV method on a Sprint Samsung S4.
I know I have a snapdragon processor, and that URDLV doesn't work with the Exynos chip, so I'm hoping that it since it sounds like it'll work in theory, that a brave soul has attempted this and can share any info. I only want root, I'm fine manually uninstalling the crap I don't need and I'm okay with using the stock rom, I just want root and know that if i use CF-auto-root that i'll trip the counter, or if i use Vroot I'm potentially using a piece of software that might have malware or spyware in it (the cons to using VRoot are all over the forums).
Anyone out there who can share their insights or experience? Thanks!
Haven't played with custom rom for awhile as well as rooting/recovery.
Now that Samsung implemented Knox, I'm reading this is changing how to implement roms and upgrading/downgrading stock roms.
I am currently on MDJ from MG1 and did not want to go to 4.3 because of the full blown Knox implementation.
So my questions are:
1. Can I still downgrade from 4.3 to 4.2.2 (MDJ)? I read some in one thread you can but others you can't. Have to make sure which thread I read for I337 vs I337M which seem quite different. Reason is that I can still easily repair/modify stuff on MDJ firmware.
2. I am also considering installing Google Edition 4.4.2 ROM as I believe it does not have Knox. Can I easily revert back to 4.2.2 MDJ from a custom rom?
I've been reading for awhile and I can't seem to figure this out. Must be old age. TIA.
lg777 said:
Haven't played with custom rom for awhile as well as rooting/recovery.
Now that Samsung implemented Knox, I'm reading this is changing how to implement roms and upgrading/downgrading stock roms.
I am currently on MDJ from MG1 and did not want to go to 4.3 because of the full blown Knox implementation.
So my questions are:
1. Can I still downgrade from 4.3 to 4.2.2 (MDJ)? I read some in one thread you can but others you can't. Have to make sure which thread I read for I337 vs I337M which seem quite different. Reason is that I can still easily repair/modify stuff on MDJ firmware.
2. I am also considering installing Google Edition 4.4.2 ROM as I believe it does not have Knox. Can I easily revert back to 4.2.2 MDJ from a custom rom?
I've been reading for awhile and I can't seem to figure this out. Must be old age. TIA.
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The safest thing to do is stay on a version without the knox bootloader. I know for sure I337 can't downgrade, and i think the bootloader isn't downgradeable but the system is or something for the I337M. I'm not sure, but either way the safest bet is to stay without the 4.3 bootloader. That way you can root and use recovery and flash without worrying about knox and you'll easily be able to revert from any custom ROM back to stock as long as you either keep a nandroid backup or the ODIN files for the firmware.
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The safest thing to do is stay on a version without the knox bootloader. I know for sure I337 can't downgrade, and i think the bootloader isn't downgradeable but the system is or something for the I337M. I'm not sure, but either way the safest bet is to stay without the 4.3 bootloader. That way you can root and use recovery and flash without worrying about knox and you'll easily be able to revert from any custom ROM back to stock as long as you either keep a nandroid backup or the ODIN files for the firmware.
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Yeah, I think I'll do that. I also understand the issue with Knox is tripping the counter voiding the warranty but I don't care about my warranty. Going to try Goldeneye when I get the chance or look at some 4.4 roms.
I don't know why Samsung or any other manufacturer just let corporate users enforce Knox or whatever and let the rest of the users alone.
its completely fine flashing custom roms with the 4.3 bootloader for us canadians. the only downside is, you will trip a knox flash counter, it cannot yet be reset. you only see this flash counter in download mode. AND if you have a non-official kernel, or recovery, you get a little yellow message in upper left corner during the first bootscreen.
BUT. if you do not upgrade to 4.3 modem, you will experience data drops (loss of signal randomly) with any custom 4.3 or 4.4 rom.
so you dont have to upgrade to 4.3 bootloaders, but you will need to get the modem, its around, if you are already on 4.3... just flash the phone as normal, you cant go back, but its not stopping you from going forward.
I have the bell smartphone protection plan, if i break the phone, they replace it, and dont care about custom software or booloader flash counters ect. So i dont care either.
For the modem, find a copy of MK6 modem assuming your in Canada, flash it through odin from your pc. If you get a fail, chances are you have a bad download (happened to me) download from a different source then. Before you flash any rom... root.... install custom recovery.... nand backup your current "stock but rooted rom" If you flash a 4.4 rom (not sure if this applies to 4.3) do a full wipe... System/cache/dalvic.... then factory reset... then flash.... I flashed 4.4 the first 2 times without wiping system and though the phone worked fine, data was inconsistant at times.....
lg777 said:
Yeah, I think I'll do that. I also understand the issue with Knox is tripping the counter voiding the warranty but I don't care about my warranty. Going to try Goldeneye when I get the chance or look at some 4.4 roms.
I don't know why Samsung or any other manufacturer just let corporate users enforce Knox or whatever and let the rest of the users alone.
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I have a Bell S4 with Google Play Edition 4.4.2 running perfectly so far. I had an MDJ modem, and tried flashing many custom ROMs on it. All 4.3 ROMs worked fine, and only AOSP 4.4 ROMs also worked fine. The only problem was the GPE 4.4 ROMs that gave me constant signal drops. So I tried to upgrade my modem to MK6 to fix the issue. Even when I upgraded to Samsung's stock 4.3 through Odin, it still didn't upgrade my modem. I had to manually flash the modem in Odin to get it to upgrade successfully. Then I just flashed a GPE ROM and everything went well.
I'm a little confused about which ROMs I can use on my N3. I have a N900W8 Canadian Rogers hltecan phone with bootloader and CSC version MJ4. I am on 4.3 stock right now and I intend to keep knox at 0x0. I have rooted it with Kingo so knox is ok. On my old S3, I just used ROMs from AT&T section of S3. But it seems N3 is quite different.
From my understanding, to install custom ROM without tripping knox, I can go the Mobile Odin Pro route and make sure the ROM that I install has no custom kernels (and also that ROM does not require custom Kernels). The other way to go about it is to use Safestrap, but I don't think there's support for Rogers yet? Also, I cannot install custom recovery (safestrap exception)
Some other questions I need to ask is if I want kitkat 4.4 on ROM's, do I have to find one with the same bootloader version? How would I know if a certain ROM is compatible with my device or can I look in the AT&T Note 3 sections like I did with my S3?
Hope you guys can point me in the right direction! Thanks
Hello!
I've been falling behind in android workings in the last couple of years. There seems to be many different ways to flash rom these days and now that KNOX has become such an nuisance for thousands of samsung users, I'm really lost at this time.
Since introducing towelroot, me and many others have been able to root successfully note 3 android 4.4.2, so the question arise in my head that is there a way to flash custom rom without tripping knox? If so and there are more than one way, what are the easiest ways?
Mobile Odin Pro may be an option for this.
As long as you do not flash custom kernel or recovery in any way (be aware of ROMs that may do it), you shouldn't trip KNOX. Emphasis on "shouldn't", I can't give any guarantees.
I have been having the same question... Not that I care so much about the knox portion but in general it seems that roms aren't working on the 4.4.2 update, with NC4 anyway. I have my phone rooted and safestrap going which is about where I'm stuck till I get an answer.
stuff_me said:
Hello!
I've been falling behind in android workings in the last couple of years. There seems to be many different ways to flash rom these days and now that KNOX has become such an nuisance for thousands of samsung users, I'm really lost at this time.
Since introducing towelroot, me and many others have been able to root successfully note 3 android 4.4.2, so the question arise in my head that is there a way to flash custom rom without tripping knox? If so and there are more than one way, what are the easiest ways?
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Someguyfromhell said:
Mobile Odin Pro may be an option for this.
As long as you do not flash custom kernel or recovery in any way (be aware of ROMs that may do it), you shouldn't trip KNOX. Emphasis on "shouldn't", I can't give any guarantees.
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Damn... so I cannot flash any custom kernel without tripping knox? I read before about not being able to flash custom recovery, but I was hoping to be able to change at least the kernel for something that supports overclocking now that I have root access.
This knox seems to be the biggest decease of the mobile world right now. I pay few hundred euros for basically pocket sized computer and I cannot choose myself what software to run on it?
Okay so I'm fairly new to the forums but I'm somewhat knowledgeable when it comes to rooting and flashing custom Roms.. At least one the Galaxy S3. So I now have a note 3 and I'd like to root and install a custom recovery and then from there a custom Rom after a little more research.. Because.. Eff touch Wiz. Now I got the note from a friend and it's been fully updated knox hasn't been enabled but has been fully updated and I believe the same thing for the security policies. Now this is where my question comes in I found a method on google (galaxynote3root.com) to root and install the recovery I just wanna know if anyone can confirm this method is safe with the new updates and what not? I'd rather not brick the phone obviously lol anyways the phone model is sm-n9008w unlocked but was a Rogers phone.. Android 5.0 stock firmware and recovery knox 2.3 any help would be appreciated
Which note 3 do you have? Are you sure it's not the sm-n900w8? Depending on the ROM you install, you may need to update to the latest bootloader and modem.
Edit: read your post again. Since stock LP is on the phone, Knox has been installed and the phone would be running the doc4 or doh1 firmware.
The simplest way to root would be to install TWRP and flash supersu from TWRP. You're going to trip the knox counter from 0x0 to 0x1. Also, make sure reactivation lock has not been enabled.