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Hopefully the following article is misinformed (I do also have a Tab)
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/03/honeycomb-to-require-dual-core-processor-initially-tablet-only/
Otherwise we'll have to wait for devs to port Honeycomb to our tabs. Which may very well not happen since few of them have SGTs (and given the news flow they may very well pass it...) plus our hardware may be too limited (Underpowered processor, too small screen resolution) and we may very well want to pass on honeycomb too (If it's only for tabs and not for phones, forget about phone functionalities...)
Anyway let's just hope this is not true (Would hate to have to dump my tab only after 3 months of use...)
It's not like SGT becomes somehow inferior just because there's a new version of Android. It is a great device as it is.
All the more reason for me to justify picking up a Tab 2 when it is released
I love my tab as it is, and I see that there are already improvements to be made through updates to FroYo, so I am not really worried because I am satisfied even with my stock tab now.
Same here - I bought an unactivated vzw tab, and it just does everything I need. If there's a Tab 2 with Honeycomb, I'll look at it, but with my other android devices, the dev community seems to produce better functionality than the vendors do, and I can hopefully skip all the vendor-installed crap with a clean image when that time arrives.
R.I.P.
These are really bad news for us owners.
Maybe I'll switch to iOS devices then. They're running so much smoother compared to android 2.X devices...
We won't see how good the tab with its powervr 540 graphics would perform with proper hardwareacceleration honeycomb will provide.
And that, ladies and gentlemen is why we're all here on XDA......
The way things are looking, unless Google is planning on HC being a tablet only OS, there will be a basic HC OS for phones and an extra feature set that's unlocked for tablets with dual core procs and 1280 X 720 screens. What may happen is that the 7" tablet will essentially be an oversized phone with XDA hacking it so you can use the tablet features on the 7" tablets.
As a Galaxy Tab owner I'm not really that butthurt by this because I can envision having a camera phone and 7" tablet as mobile devices and a wifi only 12" tablet for home use. If the HC tablet features truly require a larger screen, then I'm content with a 7" tablet that more of a mobile device.
I am a big fan of the 16:9 screen dimension. Better for movies and better for mutli-pane implementation.
The worry I have is this will just cut the spread of SGT buyers. If we end up with a device not very popular and with a small customer/devs base you can forget about any dream of good custom roms or app developments
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HTC is rumored to be releasing a 7" tablet, and the SGT has sold millions in a short amount of time. Unlike the iPhone, there was no carrier based reason to purchase the SGT over the iPad, but people did, in large part due to the form factor. I suspect that the 7" tab will not go away.
LOL, Any body want to sell their antiquated Galaxy Tab?
I've been looking to get one on AT&T or T-Mo... a trade for a mint 16GB iPhone4 perhaps???
FUD
There are no mins for Gingerbread, and IF there are any for Honeycomb, the community devs will pull apart what is a good update for the GTab and cook it up.
Honestly if you are worried, start a fund to get a tab into more dev hands...
lets not forget these are claims and have not been officialy confirmed by Google themselves yet... we still have hope. i don't think Samsung will just abandon us like this. they will probably be expecting to release their next sucessor to the tab in september. honeycomb will come out before then, and hopefully the update will be pushed out to us. the gtab was made in mind to be upgradable to Honeycomb. much like the HD2 was made to be upgradable to WP7... but that never happened.
only time will tell if we get the update.
lets not forget these are claims and have not been officialy confirmed by Google themselves yet... we still have hope. i don't think Samsung will just abandon us like this. they will probably be expecting to release their next sucessor to the tab in september. honeycomb will come out before then, and hopefully the update will be pushed out to us. the gtab was made in mind to be upgradable to Honeycomb. much like the HD2 was made to be upgradable to WP7... but that never happened.
only time will tell if we get the update.
Eh...it's only bad news if you don't like your Tab the way it is now. So it's not bad news for me, it's just more news.
What is bad is how all of a sudden there are so many deals for people to get these Galaxy Tabs. That had dramaticly reduced the cost. My guess that are getting rid of invintory. And it seems this is going on before CES. Just my view
What deals? That $100 Verizon price drop? Good luck finding a Verizon store that will sell one for $500 no-contract, it's a rumor and not official, at least not yet.
The T-Mobile $349 on a 2-year? That's not a price reduction, it's a little lubrication for the contract buttsecks. The Best Buy and Amazon sales? Short term holiday traffic generators. The UK/Euro price drops? Those were adjustments to bring the device in line with US pricing once the North American Tabs were released.
Lets not forget economy of scale, the more they make and sell, the cheaper each individual unit becomes to produce, and they can (and often do) lower prices over the life of a product to reflect this.
As for Honeycomb, Asus just announced a 7" Honeycomb tablet with 1024x600 resolution, so that part of the specs rumor is busted right away.
And any way you slice it, we're looking at March at the very least for a Honeycomb tablet explosion*. That's six months after the Tab launched. That's six months of awesome Tab usage before you should start to get the urge to replace it.
The alternative would have been to do without for six months. Life is too short for holding out for the next best thing...buying the best thing you can now is almost always a better bet.
*The Motorola tablet may launch before then, but frankly, I don't give a DAMN about the Motorola tablet, because it's a 10" device and I don't want one of those.
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The alternative would have been to do without for six months. Life is too short for holding out for the next best thing...buying the best thing you can now is almost always a better bet.
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i am with u but u need money to burn
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The alternative would have been to do without for six months. Life is too short for holding out for the next best thing...buying the best thing you can now is almost always a better bet.
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No truer words have been spoken.
You can play the waiting game forever. By the time the Honeycomb tablets are finally in the wild, the next generation tablet hardware / software will already be announced. At some point you just got to buy.
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I just got a tablet running Samsung S5PV210 and I do hope it would be upgrade to honeycomb. The tablet run Android 2.2 OS currently, and its hardware specs. as following on the site where I picked up.
I'm going to contact with the vendor and ask for certain upgrade info.
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As for Honeycomb, Asus just announced a 7" Honeycomb tablet with 1024x600 resolution, so that part of the specs rumor is busted right away.
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I also believe that one of the announced Asus tablets with Honeycomb also has a 1Ghz snapdragon so that busts the Dual Core requirement too.
I've had a Galaxy S but sold that for a BB for the keyboard! Now I just wanted something to browse the web/play some games/watch some movies.
I've been looking at tablets for a while, I refuse to get anything Apple so theres that one gone!
Now I know MWC is around the corner and I know Samsung are supposedly releasing the SAMOLED/Dual core model of the Tab (hence the price cuts in my eyes).
I just wanted to know, if you had to get a tablet now, would you get the same one? I've always though 7" is too small, but it means its great for being portable.
Anyway just want to hear your thoughts
Love my Tab and its worth every penny. Defo get another one as well.. Tesco sell them for around £360 Great work on some new roms now as well. Gingerbread will be ported very soon
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Love my Tab and its worth every penny. Defo get another one as well.. Tesco sell them for around £360 Great work on some new roms now as well. Gingerbread will be ported very soon
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+1 to this. I bought my Tab in early Decemver last year and I've loved every minute of it and it's a great bargin now with the UK price coming down to £360. I guess you have to ask yourself what you want a Tab for, if you want the very latest wizz bang tech, then wait for teh GT2 or the new Motorola on Gingerbread, but if you want a fantastic Tab at a great price thats got lots of development happening for, buy the current GT!
Not going to lie, I kicked myself a bit for buying the Tab. It's... good enough, I guess, but if nobody tries to port Honeycomb to it I'll be slashing my wrists. With my Tab. Which, seeing as it's a blunt thing, may take some work, but I'll get there.
I guess I should wait and see if Honeycomb makes it then. Whats the developers like for the Tab? Any chance they could do the work? At £360, I'd be willing to pay £20-30 for a stable port!
They will show the GT2 in February. But then it will probably take a bit of time before you can actually buy it, say April with shops like eXpansys. And then the typical carriers will take even more time before having them, say May or June (Not even talking about the US where it will take ages as usual)
So yeah if you don't mind waiting for the early summer then don't buy the Tab. Otherwise if you can't wait that long just jump and get one !
I just bought it yesterday, I was going to wait motorolla xoom tablet, but in my country australia maybe it'll be here next year sometimes.
So far I am happy with it.
No need to slit your wrists , Gingerbread is in Beta for the tab right now. So much development going on at the minute Honeycomb will come eventually one way or another , with over 2 million tabs out there already its bound to happen
We hope. Unless CyanogenMOD go some for supporting tablets we're gonna be stuck on whatever Sammy leave us with
Well I've gone a bought one with the Keyboard dock, case and TV-out.
Looking forward to it now! Been reading through the Dev forums and development seems good. Looks like we have a chance of MeeGo and Gingerbread so I can't wait for it to come!
I bought the T-Mobile Tab a few weeks ago and I love it. I've flahsed a number of different roms and each new one seems to make it a better device. Watching movies and reading ebooks on it is no problem for me. Some people think it's a bit small for that kind of use, but it's just a matter of personal likes and dislikes.
I like the 7 inch size for the ease of mobility. Fits in a jacket pocket nicely.
My wife has an iPad and while it's a great device in it's own right, it's a little too big for my taste. Besides that, unless you jailbreak it, the iPad is limited to what Apple feeds you as far as apps are concerned.
The GT2 will probably blow everything else out of the water, but so will the GT3, GT4....you get the idea.
I bought a Tab in early november and I wouldn't buy one now. Its been a great device but the price 2nd hand is falling quite quickly. I've seen a couple go on ebay for £250 or less, one even went for £175! But the real reason I wouldn't buy it is because tablets weren't a surefire investment so they didn't put everything they could into it 1st time around. Now tablets are the in thing they are sensibly coming out rather quickly with the 2nd gen that will probably last a bit longer. I know that "if you continue to wait you'll never buy anything" but the jump to dual core and a tablet friendly OS is worth waiting for as come MWC which is just 2 weeks from now you will see how far the "real" 1st gen of tablets is going to go
I bought the Verizon Tab a few weeks ago and it works just fine exactly as it is. The browser works well, I can watch baseball and hockey games streamed out with Flash, Slingplayer works fine, the email app works well with my Exchange server and the Verizon data is MUCH faster than it was with a laptop and Verizon modem I had a year or so ago. The iPad is better than the Tab at a handful of things and the Tab is better than the iPad at a handful of things. More important is that that Tab fits in a pocket of most of my pants and therefore it goes out with me while the iPad continues to sit at home to do nothing. The best tablet is the one you have with you!
I have to agree with most people in this forum. The tab is great! and worth every penny. I bought it about a weak ago and here is how I convinced myself waiting isn't necessarily going to really matter.
A. Galaxy Tab will browse the web (and so will every subsequent device)
B. Galaxy Tab will stream and or play music (and so will every subsequent device)
C. Galaxy Tab will stream and or play video (and so will every subsequent device)
D. Galaxy Tab will support the essential apps that matter & allow me to live day to day more efficiently (and so will every subsequent device)
E. Galaxy Tab has a development community that will allow me to exercise my "'hacking" bug (and so will every other device)
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F. Prediction: DEVS will not sleep until each and every one of Google's near term future mobile OS-es are ported over up until the device is just completely obsolete. (ie gingerbread, honeycomb)
G. Even if the latest and greatest Tab will come out in a few months it will be priced at a premium. ($750.00 +)
So bottom line the basic functionality will be the same. Any functionality introduced beyond what in my mind the Tab is actually meant for is just excess and will come at a premium (near term). For me any functions outside the realm of the Tab are ran on my PC or Laptop
I paid $549.00 from AT&T & don't regret the purchase.
Just my two cents.
I bought one last week after selling my iPad and Advent Vega.
The rational behind buying it was similar to other people in this thread, HTC will soon launch their flyer with very similar specs so the hardware is not outdated, it will take until next christmas for the dust to settle around the true next gen tablets. Some will get dev support others probably not so much (just think how long it took for the motorola milestone to get custom roms!)
With the Galaxy Tab you get a device which is only a few months old thats just starting to gather momentum in the dev scene.
The price has dropped considetably in the U.K. so it made sense for me to get this device which will no doubt get gingerbread one way or another making it very similar to the flyer in terms of spec and features (I'm not a sense fan so wont miss it). I expect the flyer will initially cost more than the tab.
In short get one enjoy it and wait to see which of the next gen tablets gets support from cyan and co
One other thing...even if the updates and support aren't official, look at how many "old" Android devices are still being used every day and, by and large, they can still run the latest and greatest software. As far as I've read the G1 is capable of running Slingplayer which means it's capable of running the relatively recent OS that Slingplayer requires. Therefore, I wouldn't be too worried about the system becoming stale or outdated.
Seeing where the SGT Dev community is going (nowhere).... I am thinking of selling my 3 week old SGT for cash and saving up for the wifi-Xoom. Anyone in the same boat.... or can rebut my opinion.
I've had the same thought, but since my GF got it for me for X-mas, I'm gonna keep using it, and give it back to her when I can afford a XOOM
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Seeing where the SGT Dev community is going (nowhere).... I am thinking of selling my 3 week old SGT for cash and saving up for the wifi-Xoom. Anyone in the same boat.... or can rebut my opinion.
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I got the tab in January and so far other than gaining root haven’t done anything else with it, the mobility factor is a big plus no question about it, but then I got the xoom on launching day and now I really like them both…so if or when you do it you will appreciate the differences.
I think the Devs have nothing to do with your decision.
I really like the form factor, but performance is an issue with my tab. and with the dev community not really huge, i feel left out of so much with all of these honeycomb tegra2 tablets coming out. I just really feel that Samsung really jumped the gun with the tab. releasing it with no hopes of any real update. Then pretty much rubbing it in our face by releasing 2 more tabs that are far more superior. makes me feel like i made a bad investment by falling for their trickery.
Maybe SGT 8.9 if released with similar specs as of the xoom. and reasonably priced
The tegra processors and Honycomb make our tab look outdated already but IMO the differences are not that big unless one expects too much from a tablet; is not going to replace our laptops yet…as for sami updating my hopes are nonexistent. I was in Germany recently when a saw the tab of a friend of mine, phone working etc I turned green . My biggest beef is with the carriers here in the US that crippled the device.
tegra 2 isnt a device without their own problem
like not able to play 720p mkv movies unless it converted on a specific format
that would be a problem to some people
and is there really a lot of app that dual core ready anyway?
afaik, for normal process, only 1 core would work unless there's a need for the 2nd core?
jumping too soon on honeycomb with limited apps wouldnt make that much of a difference either
and did you say saving up? how long? ^^
if it took months, who knows we already got honeycomb or ice cream on the way on our tab?
honeycomb, i doubt, but the next generation for smartphone definitely gonna be ported to our tab IMO
my main interest in this tab is phone capability, so unless there's another contender out there, i'm still gonna keep this one
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Then pretty much rubbing it in our face by releasing 2 more tabs that are far more superior. makes me feel like i made a bad investment by falling for their trickery.
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I'm trying to see what trickery Samsung have fooled you with here?
The 7" Tab was sold as an Android 2.2 device, with no promise of a Honeycomb update, and that's what they delivered.
We may, or may not get an official upgrade, which may be Honeycomb, or perhaps Gingerbread, but the Tab is still a very capable and useful device as is IMO. I do believe that we will at least get an unofficial Honeycomb ROM once the source code drops.
None of the upcoming tablets can replace my Tab because they are too big for my purposes, though I may end up getting a bigger tablet purely for home use.
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For me its all about size, the 10s are just to big to carry around comfortably. Might as well continue to carry my Dell mini9 laptop. I dont require much from my tab maybe thats why Im happy with the 7.
Remember no matter what you buy it has a good 6 months of obsolescence built in
I think most devs wait for the honeycomb source... no one wants a broken sdk port on an expensive device...
As soon as HC hits aosp I'll contribute developing.
And the xoom community won't move very fast with development for the first six months either. And with that price, probably not much development after that.
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And the xoom community won't move very fast with development for the first six months either. And with that price, probably not much development after that.
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Agreed. The xoom may be "developer friendly" but it is way too expensive to mess around with.. the galaxy tab gets cheaper and cheaper and will attract more devs too over time.
Why are we comparing the Tab and the Xoom? Two totally different niches. Anyone buying a Tab should know what they are getting, and most that do are getting them for a reason. 7 inches, and a solid product with the full Android Market without having to push it onto the device.
I have three different 7 inch tablets right now (had a 4th, but the Dell Streak 7 is dismal) and the Galaxy Tab is BY FAR the best of the three. The NookColor is fun, and is running dual-boot Honeycomb (port from sdk) and froyo. It's overclocked to 1.1Ghz and is primarily used by my wife as an e-reader (which is what B&N intended), though she likes firing up Angry Birds, etc.
The Archos 70 Internet Tablet is running 2.2.1..and is slim and can handle just about ANY media thrown it's way. Archos is a leader in Media devices, having created the HDD portable Music player before anyone else (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archos)...including Apple. It's hands down the best for watching movies. However it's flimsy and buggy...Archos sucks at support, truly. Plus, there's not much in the way of accessories for it. I had the 10.1 also...but sold it.
My Tab gets the most use...as I swap my phone's sim into it quite frequently. And it handles pretty much everything I want it to do. Out of the 3, theres no comparison as to my satisfaction.
If I wanted another 10" Tablet...and wanted Honeycomb right now, I STILL would not get the Xoom. I can afford it, but that doesn't mean I want to plunk down $800 on something obviously rushed out of production. Too many things wrong with this early adopter device.
Here's to hoping the incoming 8.9' Galaxy Tab has some of the kinks worked out...cuz I'm gonna pounce on it right away. 10.1" prolly not, the form factor just too large for my usage.
Whatever some people get, they will NEVER be satisfied
hehe...truly, and that's why my wife calls me a gadget whore...just have to have em all. Could be worse in her eyes, at least I'm loyal to her
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Seeing where the SGT Dev community is going (nowhere).... I am thinking of selling my 3 week old SGT for cash and saving up for the wifi-Xoom. Anyone in the same boat.... or can rebut my opinion.
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If you bought a tablet based on the dev community then you were wrong to do that in the first place. You buy something for what it is, not what it may be based on some random people messing around with roms.
I can't see how a 10" Xoom could possibly be a replacement for the 7" SGT. One you can carry around with you, use in your car, act as a backup phone, and the other is mostly a stay at home couch device. Personally I think the Xoom is a bit of a let down on things it should be better at - like playing high bitrate movies. SGT blows it away on that score. The SGT build and screen is also very high quality. As good as my iPad 1 (which I've not really touched since the SGT came along. Never mind how I've come to despise the Apple lock-in methodology...).
Honeycomb looks like it will be a great update when the bugs are ironed out, but Froyo (maybe Gingerbread soon) on the SGT currently makes more sense as the device really is closer to a phone than a tablet (and I'm personally happy that it is). Ice Cream Sandwich looks like it will be the natural OS upgrade for this device, as it will combine Honeycomb UI changes with smartphone functionality. Whether Samsung will release it for the SGT in the coming months is anyone's guess, but for now I'm rocking the Tab. For a couch device I'll see what the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is like (hopefully they'll find a fix for the video snafu), but none of the Tegra 2 SoC based tablets are wowing me at the moment.
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hehe...truly, and that's why my wife calls me a gadget whore...just have to have em all. Could be worse in her eyes, at least I'm loyal to her
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I'm one too. I hide some from my wife too, so that makes me some kind of addict! But she uses the RAZR we got many years ago.
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I'm one too. I hide some from my wife too, so that makes me some kind of addict! But she uses the RAZR we got many years ago.
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Lol...not mine, she's become a gadget snob. Though she won't admit it, she's glad to be cutting edge. I see it when her girlfriends drool over the cool gadgets she totes around, lmao. We'll go get coffee, and she will look to see who noticed her pretty NookColor while she's reading and surfing the internets.
So you're selling a device because people aren't modding it? IMHO that's a ridiculous reason to sell this amazing piece of tech.
And im guessing one main reason is Honeycomb because, lets face it, its what everyone wants in a tablet. Then why not buy a Nook? You complain lack of development, the Nook Honeycomb port is better than anything they'll ever do with the Xoom.
Still, just my opinion. I'm keeping my Tab until it dies, then ill get another one.
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+1
and..truly one of these days someone WILL put out an Android device that doesn't need modding! Might be 3 years from now...with 8 core cpu & AirWave connectivity (5+TB wireless connection passed through our existing electrical cables that are strung on the poles...or passed through now vacated VHF / UHF signals...yeah, I can dream BIG!)
But you will only be able to get 3g data or 2g+ voice.
Hi Folks,
I was just wondering. Has anyone here got a Galaxy Tab 10.1? I have VegaComb 8.1 installed on my Vega and let me tell you I am very happy with it. However, having used this for a few weeks now, I’m finding myself using it more than my Laptop. I’m even beginning to look at some serious software i.e Office type apps, handwriting because I think it’s proving to be very valuable. But, here lies my dilemma. Do I invest in Galaxy Tab 10.1 so that all the shortcoming of the Vega (compared to the Galaxy Tab 10.1) can be addressed? You know, the poor screen viewing angle, weight and screen size. I’ve investigated quite a bit about the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and it seems that everything the Vega can do, the Galaxy Tab can do (and dare I say… sometimes even better!).
The VegaComb devs have done a fantastic job and I really appreciate their time and effort. Without them I think I may have parted with my Vega a few months ago.
Anyway, I thought I’d see what other Vega users think. Do I go for it or not?
Thanks.
This is purely my opinion but I believe if you are going to rely on the tablet heavily and wanting to invest in apps and do you work on it, its better to purchase something more reliable. I am not saying Vega is not good ( I have Vega replica and I am very happy with it ) but personally I would get something more sturdy and well built if that device is going to be the primary.
Before I get this replica I had Asus Transformer and it was totally fantastic. Unfortunately I had to sell it due to needing the money. But If I get a chance I would look into something like that or Galaxy tab.
But bear in mind there no such a thing as "perfect" device. All of their own pro and cons!
Hope this helps
I agree with "bennz"!
I think you can't compare a 1/2 cheaper Vega/clone with a Galaxy Tab 10.1, it's like trying to compare HTC Wildfire with double priced SGS2/iPhone4. You just can't!
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I agree with "bennz"!
I think you can't compare a 1/2 cheaper Vega/clone with a Galaxy Tab 10.1, it's like trying to compare HTC Wildfire with double priced SGS2/iPhone4. You just can't!
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I don't think price is anything to do with it, I bought the original Tab (FroYo) for £400 and it's not a patch on the Vega
The Vega has been an excellent device to tinker with: fairly innovative as an Android tablet, inexpensive, very good value for money and well supported by the devs. By now, the market is far more mature, and there are better offers, more reliable as bennz said, and better adjusted in price. No more Toshiba Folios and original Galaxy Tabs (as in, overpriced "top brand" pieces of crap) are in sight, so to say, unless Sony majorly screws up their new tablet series, and there's a much bigger variety to pick your tab from: I'd take 7 inches for my next tablet.
Am I the only one who feels as if the 7.7 was left out to dry? Long story short, I recently sold my GT 10.1 due to its size and in my opinion, sub standard resolution & display. With that said, I'm back in the market for something smaller, slightly faster & with removeable storage. Even though this device is over a year old, it still seems to be one of the best options in its particular category. I think the RIDICULOUS price had a lot to do with the underwhelming adoption, but I'm sure the price has since dropped making it a reasonable option.
I looked at the Nexus 7 & its a beautiful device, but I need that extra .7 inches & the gorgeous Super AMOLED+ that the 7.7 offers. I did taken a considerable amount of time reading through some of the relatively older threads, but I think its always nice to get some relatively newer updates and opinions especially considering how fast development in the Android world progresses.
I just need that little extra boost in confidence before I spend $400 or so on an older tablet.. Can the dual Exnyos keep up with today's & tomorrow s tech? Have you seen, heard or experience any issues ( small or enormous ) on a regular basis? Any insight and personal experiences would be greatly appreciated? BTW, I'm new & this is the first of many threads I hope to post, so thanks in advance for any help!
If the price difference is small I defenatly go for the Tab 7.7, and the only argument you need is the brilliant superAMOLEDplus screen.
Downside would be "no jelly bean", but ICS works very vell on the device, so personally I don't pay to much attention to the problem.
The dualcore exynos does a good job, and with overclocking even better, @1,6GHz it feels snappy and don't feel any slower than my Tegra 3 quad core HTC One X, maybe even faster when surfing
I bought a Nexus 7 and sold it on eBay within three weeks. It didn't compare to my rooted 7.7 running CM10. My GF also has a 7.7, but is super clumsy. I wanted to check the N7 build, see if it may survive a scrape or two more, but the superAMOLEDplus screen alone made it her and my preference.
As for those shopping blindly for the highest quadrant score, why? What's the point?
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If the price difference is small I defenatly go for the Tab 7.7, and the only argument you need is the brilliant superAMOLEDplus screen.
Downside would be "no jelly bean", but ICS works very vell on the device, so personally I don't pay to much attention to the problem.
The dualcore exynos does a good job, and with overclocking even better, @1,6GHz it feels snappy and don't feel any slower than my Tegra 3 quad core HTC One X, maybe even faster when surfing
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Abree :good:
There is nothing comparable, and ICS is more than good enough
I appreciate all of the input folks. I think I'm going to bite the bullet & go ahead & get the 7.7 - Until recently, storage wasn't a big issue for me, but lately I'm finding a genuine need to be able to add my own SD card in order to save all of my media files, as I shoot a great deal of video & have a music collection that could rival anyones. I know Google is attempting to get people to rely more on cloud based services, but I don't always have a great data connection & not to mention the inconvenience of not being able to quickly & easily access your files at time.
Its a shame that it was priced soooooooo high - I think that's a big reason it never received the "love" it deserved.. & also, I believe it was only available on a contract through Verizon here in the US ( $499 for a tablet on a 2yr contract??????? No thanks ). I'm just scouring the web in search of a Wi-Fi version for $350 or less - Anyone have any suggestions on where to search? Is $300-$375 a reasonable expectation for this tablet now?
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try on Amazon, at least they have some kind of warranty
if I were you, i will avoid Chinese and other foreign countries for a new tab, their warranty is available in their home country, so you need to send it back if something goes wrong.
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Galaxy Tab 7.7
Here in my country. 7.7 price has been dropped that its like 2000 pesos higher than the p1000 tab(yes! That good ol 1st gen tab!) 2k php is roughly 50bucks! Still. More opted to grab the gtab 2 or the 7.0plus.
What set this besides the Samoled screen. Thickness - I installed zagg iShield and use this as is. Most people noticed how thin this thing is compared to other slates.
And yes - in the sea of quadcores, this tab still kicks as$, Screen resolution is enough for desktop style browsing. USB on the go is really useful if you have a high capacity thumbdrive, you can play movies directly from usbdrives.
Lastly - with people aiming on other devices, our tab is a novelty item lol
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I've only had the 7.7 for 6 days and the OLED screen is enough to make me wana pick it up every 10 mins - standard.
Aren't we all?
P6800 may be Samsung's forgotten son, but aren't all the forgotten sons the most capable sons?
Forgotten son indeed. I wonder whether the UK will ever get ics officially rolled out after all this Apple lawsuit business. More worryingly, the 7.7 is not even on Samsung UK's website as a listed product anymore.
It IS still one of the best tablets around. I have the note 10.1 but still pick up my 7.7 due to sheer portability and thinness...also the lovely cold metal feel. I think it IS still worth purchasing. In UK, carphone warehouse prices are good. But new purchasers should bear in mind that official support might be minimal if existent at all.
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whmcal said:
Forgotten son indeed. I wonder whether the UK will ever get ics officially rolled out after all this Apple lawsuit business. More worryingly, the 7.7 is not even on Samsung UK's website as a listed product anymore.
It IS still one of the best tablets around. I have the note 10.1 but still pick up my 7.7 due to sheer portability and thinness...also the lovely cold metal feel. I think it IS still worth purchasing. In UK, carphone warehouse prices are good. But new purchasers should bear in mind that official support might be minimal if existent at all.
Sent from my 32GB Galaxy Note
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Isn't a firmware already out and available for UK? I thought there was you might want to check sammobile the majority of us running ICS got the software from there and just flashed it using ODIN.
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I live in NL and have the same question. Will there be an official ICS update or not? Would there be any way to find out? I van remember Samsung once promising that there would be an update. But they have gone awfully quiet...
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adinis78 said:
Isn't a firmware already out and available for UK? I thought there was you might want to check sammobile the majority of us running ICS got the software from there and just flashed it using ODIN.
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I just bought one last week from Carphone warehouse in the UK and now in Lithuania pondering whether to install ISC.the odin way.. hmm..
My major problem is i know NOTHING about all this root/flash/brick/kermal malarky and paranoid to ruin my working 7.7
After reading so many threads (and pos/neg responses) its still a gamble to me, losing wifi alone would drive me insane, so i might just wait till its kies-able (could be 2013 by then tho)
What an amazing tab tho it is. OLED for the win!
OLEDMAN said:
I just bought one last week from Carphone warehouse in the UK and now in Lithuania pondering whether to install ISC.the odin way.. hmm..
My major problem is i know NOTHING about all this root/flash/brick/kermal malarky and paranoid to ruin my working 7.7
After reading so many threads (and pos/neg responses) its still a gamble to me, losing wifi alone would drive me insane, so i might just wait till its kies-able (could be 2013 by then tho)
What an amazing tab tho it is. OLED for the win!
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Do flash ICS with Odin, it is not difficult, and it is much better than HC :good:
Later you can root with standard recovery and flash CWM recovery with Odin, thats all you really need
DocJ8403 said:
Am I the only one who feels as if the 7.7 was left out to dry? Long story short, I recently sold my GT 10.1 due to its size and in my opinion, sub standard resolution & display. With that said, I'm back in the market for something smaller, slightly faster & with removeable storage. Even though this device is over a year old, it still seems to be one of the best options in its particular category. I think the RIDICULOUS price had a lot to do with the underwhelming adoption, but I'm sure the price has since dropped making it a reasonable option.
I looked at the Nexus 7 & its a beautiful device, but I need that extra .7 inches & the gorgeous Super AMOLED+ that the 7.7 offers. I did taken a considerable amount of time reading through some of the relatively older threads, but I think its always nice to get some relatively newer updates and opinions especially considering how fast development in the Android world progresses.
I just need that little extra boost in confidence before I spend $400 or so on an older tablet.. Can the dual Exnyos keep up with today's & tomorrow s tech? Have you seen, heard or experience any issues ( small or enormous ) on a regular basis? Any insight and personal experiences would be greatly appreciated? BTW, I'm new & this is the first of many threads I hope to post, so thanks in advance for any help!
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upgrade to 4.1 at least.
OLEDMAN said:
I just bought one last week from Carphone warehouse in the UK and now in Lithuania pondering whether to install ISC.the odin way.. hmm..
My major problem is i know NOTHING about all this root/flash/brick/kermal malarky and paranoid to ruin my working 7.7
After reading so many threads (and pos/neg responses) its still a gamble to me, losing wifi alone would drive me insane, so i might just wait till its kies-able (could be 2013 by then tho)
What an amazing tab tho it is. OLED for the win!
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Just download an ICS build. Root, install locerra's CWM and backup your ROM. Then, install ICS through Odin/Mobile Odin (you may need to reinstall CWM after that). See if it works well for you. If it doesn't, you may try other AOSP ROMs, such as CM10 and ParanoidAndroid 2. If you find that HC is still the best for you, reboot into recovery and restore your original backup. It will be as if nothing had happened to your tab between the moment you backed it up and the moment you restored.
whmcal said:
Forgotten son indeed. I wonder whether the UK will ever get ics officially rolled out after all this Apple lawsuit business. More worryingly, the 7.7 is not even on Samsung UK's website as a listed product anymore.
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There is one thing I don't understand. The P6800XXLQ2 firmware is built for several European countries, not only for Austria but also for Hungary, Italy, etc. and UNITED KINGDOM! Just check it on the Samfirmware website.
So, why you and other forum-mates say that there is no UK ICS ROM? It is simply not true.
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A bit off topic. Seems to work fine in quite a few south east Asian countries. I'm in Brunei and it works great.
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I was so sure the Nexus 7 would entice me at first sight, but the 7.7 has spoilt me. The Nexus 7 screen somehow felt way too small, the build way too clunky and... It just didn't feel... Premium.
The software though... It'd be nice if Samsung put some effort in.
Love the 7.7. Worth every dollar. ICS is sufficient. The tablet just feels and performs like nothing else. I am happier than a fly on a **** wagon
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