Camera Comparison : KitKat vs Lollipop - Xperia Z1 General

Some of you say that the camera got better and the others say that it worse , before updating to lollipop take some pictures then make a comparison after you update
It's IMPORTANT that you take the photo with the same lighting conditions
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Here you go. Colors seem to be now more realistic...my eye can't see any other difference.
If someone interested, original pictures can be downloaded here:
ww w. dropbox.com/sh/quyjmm388qbb2fk/AADV2T7j9bfsgNWI-Wlt3VXka?dl=0

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60091905&postcount=6

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[CAMERA] Post best photos taken by your Note 2 here.

as seen in all other forums, i thought it was about time we had our photo-posting thread ready. *rubs hands*
i just got my note a while ago and found out its camera is A.W.E.S.O.M.E
i guess i should start with my pics
so.....feel free to post your masterpieces
amazing!
3rd picture is very beautiful place! where is it?
DubelBoom said:
amazing!
3rd picture is very beautiful place! where is it?
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its my university
Hmmm...are you post processing on the phone or shooting with in a particular mode?
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Lucidmike said:
Hmmm...are you post processing on the phone or shooting with in a particular mode?
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shooting with my own settings :3
im a hobbyist photographer
i'm wondering, perhaps you(or someone) could do a well set up test of the camera of the note 2? i'm curious about the performance as mine is yet to arrive.(eta 1 week)
test setup example:
a full size(detail) daylight, shimmer, shimmer with flash, night and night with flash, macro and distant would be nice to see a comparison of, and if you have one, a reference card (i.e. contrast and color range) ISO range test (noise) and is the white balance with flash alright?
all this information would be nice to have available (perhaps post results to wiki)
Anyone else notice pictures and videos coming out dark?
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I can't see any pictures in this thread. Please post some again so i can see what this device is capable of.
/ Magnus
Performance
Could you also comment on the performance of the camera in terms of shutter lag and speed of camera app launched from lock screen?
Here's a HDR mode shot
And a lil standard pic
Thanks for these, although they are downsized quite a bit from the fullres originals they look very good with sharpness and few if any visible artifacts common to cellphonecameras. Except for the second image which has a blown out sky and a bit strong contrast on the chrome parts.
Keep the pics coming, i wanna see more!
/ Magnus
A few more randoms from work i just snapped
Thanks for the photos guys, please post more...I can't wait to get stuck into my GN2!
Wow those are crisp and sharp! it seems to expose pretty well. This is exciting news!
I see some colornoise in some images, but it's not bad at all..
/ Magnus
More images please... I'll be posting a few as soon as I have the phone.
In the shade
In the sun
Looking good Twistedchild420, thanks.
Thanks guys^^^^^^
Here is a gem from earlier
seems like the Note II's cam firmware tend to overexpose and wash out the colours a bit by default.
unless u do some further tweaking in settings like what OP did, then u should be able to get good photos. I think a cam fw update is required to improve the image quality. I will judge again when there's more sample pictures (shot in default auto settings).
Not mine, but from Note 2.
Here you can find many Note 2 vs Galaxy S3 and some Note 2 photos.

I9500 & I9505: Does the stock camera suck? Different camera sensors?

Long story short: About four months ago I was a happy iPhone 4 user. I really loved the camera quality and with Camera+ I could edit the pictures I made, which was great too.
In November 2012 I switched to the Galaxy S3. Loved everything about it except for the (wait for it.......) camera. It sucked so baldy, especially when coming from an iPhone.
I got my Galaxy S4 yesterday and I really love the camera It's much better than the iPhone 4 and even beating my dad's iPhone 5 (I'm talking about outdoor shots). But what I don't get is that some reviewers get extremely bad pictures with it. The reason they do get those blurry and noisy pictures is the stock camera app. Obviously, there's no auto-focus before the picture is taken. And the results are terrible. I even remember using the stock Samsung camera app on my old GS3 when I went on vacation after I bought it. I took many pictures and when I arrived home I had to find out that they were blurry (very nasty, actually). The disappointment was so big that I literally spent hours looking for a decent camera app.
Then I found Snap Camera HDR. The pics were better, but SGS3 camera still sucked (maybe I just caught a bad lens on my model).
So now, on my SGS4 I compared the stock app with Snap Camera. Conclusion: The stock app sucks. A lot. Sure, there's some awesome modes in it like Night Mode, HDR and all that. But who need that if there's no focus? Of all the pictures I took, about 70% were blurred because of its lack of a decent focus. It makes sense when people claim that the HTC One is better for capturing instant shots.
So guys, for shots in outdoor situations, try to use apps like Snap Camera or Camera FV-5. At least you'll have the pictures focused and I'm sure that you'll see some noticable improvement.
And this leads to the next question, namely if there are different sensors built in the two different versione (Snapdragon & Exynos). Some people here in the forum claim that the I9500 uses the Exmor RS and the I9505 uses the exmor R. When you look at some pictures of Chinese reviews one could think that it is true. But on the other hand, why would Samsung do that? Seriously?
For my part it's probably because of the guys using the I9500. Maybe they're using apps with better focus to get all out of the camera. Maybe they're using some stands for the shots they take. Or maybe they just have steady hands. I don't know. But using two different senors wouldn't make sense. I even called Samsung here in Switzerland and they told me that both versions have the same sensor when it comes to the camera.
I took some pics so you can see how they look like when you shoot them with Snap Camera HDR. The level of detail looks exactly like the one on the I9500 reviews from Russia and China. But judge yourself. Note that the pics were shot at bad conditions (rainy and cloudy weather). More pictures are coming next week.
So what version you bought? Because you never said in your post.
danm200 said:
So what version you bought? Because you never said in your post.
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9505 from what I read
《posted from s3》
I think, they both are using the same camera sensor. Difference in some picture are because there may be a dirty lens or not steady shot. All photos of i9500 and i9505 are very good and have the same parameters.
I just hope Samsung isn't using 2 different sensors besides 2 different CPU's, that would certainly upset a lot of users including me.
Sorry for not mentioning it: I have the I9505 European version.
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Daaaamn dat camera, thats some nice pics in not so good conditions, cloudy and all.
I thought they were maybe different sensors. Brian Klung from anandtech mentioned that he noticed 2 different sensor names for the exynos and Snapdragon versions.

KitKat Camera better than Lollipop?

I know this is an old topic, but i just re-flashed KitKat .ftf file today (C6903_14.6.A.0.368_TW.ftf, because i lost root along the custom ROM-flashing madness ), and i noticed that the Camera on the KitKat firmware is so much smoother and faster than on stock Lollipop, and so much much better the custom 6.0 ROMs for that matter (albeit they suffer from a known Camera problem). Now that i'm flashing back to stock 5.1.1, does anyone know how to optimize the camera app? It just seems a little unfair that the camera on 4.4.4 gives you such a better experience than the one on 5.1.1.
P.S: I have unlocked the bootloader, but the Kitkat Camera app is unaffected.
Lollipop is better
yeah, it would seem LP camera works better in lowlight. i'm trying the Camera app on Kryptonian ROM, which is ported from Xperia X, btw.
I will try to make this quick and clear: Since the battery change for my Z1 the rear glass didnt get well glued, so the flash light interfere with the camera, the pictures taken with flash were very ugly, so every picture i take, i make it without flash, and i dont know how neither why but the camera takes light from nowhere and it gives to me very clear pictures, like if you have a lightbulb in front, i have very clear pictures, i must say that i am using a custom rom (mx rom 8.5)
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I will try to make this quick and clear: Since the battery change for my Z1 the rear glass didnt get well glued, so the flash light interfere with the camera, the pictures taken with flash were very ugly, so every picture i take, i make it without flash, and i dont know how neither why but the camera takes light from nowhere and it gives to me very clear pictures, like if you have a lightbulb in front, i have very clear pictures, i must say that i am using a custom rom (mx rom 8.5)
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I had this problem too and I removed the back glass, I washed the camera and the glass and then I glued it with glass glue. Now it is perfect
Kitkat camera viewfinder is much smoother than Lollipop. I didn't notice any other difference but that was the most obvious one. Thankfully there's a nice mod here that makes the viewfinder crazy fast again in Lollipop so there. Anyway, I cleaned up my lens with a small amount of toothpaste, and everything went better, shots were more clear, no more blurs, etc.
MX ROM camera vs Snapchat camera. There are a huge difference
Michael4407 said:
I know this is an old topic, but i just re-flashed KitKat .ftf file today (C6903_14.6.A.0.368_TW.ftf, because i lost root along the custom ROM-flashing madness ), and i noticed that the Camera on the KitKat firmware is so much smoother and faster than on stock Lollipop, and so much much better the custom 6.0 ROMs for that matter (albeit they suffer from a known Camera problem). Now that i'm flashing back to stock 5.1.1, does anyone know how to optimize the camera app? It just seems a little unfair that the camera on 4.4.4 gives you such a better experience than the one on 5.1.1.
P.S: I have unlocked the bootloader, but the Kitkat Camera app is unaffected.
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Im using 5.1.1 with pexocam v8.5, it has fast focus and nice quality, you can try it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony-themes-apps/mod-pexocam-t3359898
LP camera tends to take overexposed photos.
spikekav said:
LP camera tends to take overexposed photos.
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In my case, only when i am in a very low light condition, but when the light is good, the pictures taken are not the best but they are good

Help, why I can't get quality image files with S4.

Hi.
My previous phone was a huawei p1. I bought the camera fv5 app and the images were great. The phone started to behave strange and I started to look for a better phone. Decided on the s4. I read that it's camera was great and I thought that the fv5 app will remove the plastic of the images as it did on my p1. But it didn't. I'm so disappointed.
Here are the examples:
huawei
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8kmedFmWBvwSHp6TTBpQjllcHMyejJ3eldYMm45X2VoSmpR/view?usp=sharing
samsung
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8kmedFmWBvwcUg5dXhTX0M2ZnppeEFCU2dMR1lNem5weFBn/view?usp=sharing
Why can't s4 shoot the same and how to fix it?
It looks like the p1 shoots raw which is impossible.
Thanks.
You might want to explain with some added information, because based upon what I've seen in the two pictures I'm having a difficult time understanding what the problem actually is. Claiming the P1 picture is better than the S4 is a major stretch. It doesn't help when your Huawei's image is blurry and indistinct, while the S4 image is razor sharp.
P. S. Unless you use Androslide's Camera Zoom FX Pro you're not shooting in RAW.
But the p1 is better, there s more detail if you pay attention (look at the tree needles), there s more highlight detail with better color and no overexposure, the shadows are smooth and there s no huge contrast, there s no oversharpning and overprocessing of the details (no plastic look), there s actually nice noise that makes for a real image, it looks as a raw image.
Both images were made with camera fv5 app on andr 6 and andr 4.4.1
It is strange why can't the s4 take the same quality picture, why is there that layer of postprocessing on s4 that an old phone like p1 misses?
Have you tried taking pictures with the s4 running stock 5.01 with the stock Samsung camera app?
No, i haven t. Have you? Is it any different?
Is it possible to see a 100% crop?
I don't have the phone at the moment but people I know that habe the phone the pictures are pretty good. These are people that run everything stock.
I have, and the picture quality is excellent. I didn't notice any sharpening issues using the S4 camera and stock firmware. In fact, the pictures it took are comparable to the ones coming from my Nexus 6, and this is despite not having OIS or exposure bracketing HDR; the stock Samsung firmware uses software filters to emulate HDR.
I can't test the stock firmware now because I'm running Android 7.0 on the device and have Camera Zoom FX Pro installed, but I'm still not seeing the OP's issues he claims are in the S4 image. I have a good eye for composition and a decent eye for picture quality, and to me that S4 image is perfectly fine. It could have been improved using HDR, but for a sample shot it's well framed and the colors accurate compared to the P1.

Mate 8 camera performance on nougat?

Hello everyone, I'm a hairs breadth from ordering a mate 8 as my Christmas present to myself but I have a question before I do.
Having (possibly) read all the reviews there are for this phone I can see people often grumbling about the camera quality. Now I'm sure that as it is it'll be at least as good as the one on my LG G PRO 2, but my query is this. Now that several people have nougat installed, is the camera better than it was on marshmallow? Would it be possible for people to try replicating pics from before the update but on nougat now to post their thoughts?
I'm likely to order one tonight either way, but I'm sure this would be of interest to buyers who have put it off until now.
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Hello everyone, I'm a hairs breadth from ordering a mate 8 as my Christmas present to myself but I have a question before I do.
Having (possibly) read all the reviews there are for this phone I can see people often grumbling about the camera quality. Now I'm sure that as it is it'll be at least as good as the one on my LG G PRO 2, but my query is this. Now that several people have nougat installed, is the camera better than it was on marshmallow? Would it be possible for people to try replicating pics from before the update but on nougat now to post their thoughts?
I'm likely to order one tonight either way, but I'm sure this would be of interest to buyers who have put it off until now.
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I've been taking photos since I was a kid in the 60's. In the early 80's, I was into film SLR's. In the early 2000's, I switched to dSLR.
I'm kind of picky. Using the default camera app, it's "ok", but if you switch to Camera FV-5, you'll have a lot more control over the
sensitivity of the camera sensor.
Under normal lighting conditions, it's not a bad camera, but you have to take into consideration, the sensor is still tens of times
SMALLER than even a APS-C camera sensor, as are all phone sensors.
signal to noise ratio, crosstalk, it's just hard to get around, when you pack megapixels worth of sensors, on such a small substrate.
Great suggestion on the camera app - I think I've seen it suggested elsewhere too. I was really wondering if anyone who has updated their phone to 7 on the betas had noticed an improvement in the camera app, but as it should be with me in about ten days and the official update should be fairly close I'll be able to make comparisons myself!
Bearded_1 said:
Great suggestion on the camera app - I think I've seen it suggested elsewhere too. I was really wondering if anyone who has updated their phone to 7 on the betas had noticed an improvement in the camera app, but as it should be with me in about ten days and the official update should be fairly close I'll be able to make comparisons myself!
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Sort of in the same spot you were. Looking at this phone and wondering if the camera performance has improved with the update to 7 and EMUI 5.0. Did you get the phone or find out anything?
uno3122 said:
Sort of in the same spot you were. Looking at this phone and wondering if the camera performance has improved with the update to 7 and EMUI 5.0. Did you get the phone or find out anything?
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I've got it, and the camera is indeed better than on my previous LG G PRO 2. I just did a shoot-out with a Pixel this morning looking through the office window and I have to say that there wasn't a huge amount of difference from what i could see on screen.. Hopefully I have managed to upload a stock Mate 8 camera shot and the same taken with the Pixel. There is more detail in the Pixel shot, but not enough to not be happy with the Mate. As to what will happen with the camera capabilities once on Nougat, I have no idea, but I'm happy with the results i'm getting at the moment! The Pixel shot is darker, but that maybe due to it having hdr+ on and the light balance difference from aiming higher into the sky.
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I've got it, and the camera is indeed better than on my previous LG G PRO 2. I just did a shoot-out with a Pixel this morning looking through the office window and I have to say that there wasn't a huge amount of difference from what i could see on screen.. Hopefully I have managed to upload a stock Mate 8 camera shot and the same taken with the Pixel. There is more detail in the Pixel shot, but not enough to not be happy with the Mate. As to what will happen with the camera capabilities once on Nougat, I have no idea, but I'm happy with the results i'm getting at the moment! The Pixel shot is darker, but that maybe due to it having hdr+ on and the light balance difference from aiming higher into the sky.
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Thanks for the comparison! That's very encouraging. I'll be looking forward to any updates with the camera software with the upgrade to EMUI 5.0 and Nougat.
Maybe next update (EMUI 5.0 and Nougat) bring to us some improvements from Mate 9 camera.
"Aside from the latest security patch, the update also includes several other changes, including 10x digital zoom option in the camera as well as some performance related improvements."
http://www.gsmarena.com/december_security_update_hitting_huawei_mate_9-news-22331.php
With latest Nougat (I'm not sure whether it was there before or not), it allows to save raw pictures (in pro mode).
I know camera is 1000% much better than on emui 4.1 on 4.0 is good but on Nougat is really good
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