Hi,
I am planning to buy the developer edition and take back with me to Europe. My network provider supports:
Required :GSM 900
Recommended :GSM 900 and GSM 1800
4G LTE: 900, 2600, and 800
Based on these I assume that the phone would work with my network provider as the same freq. are supported by the phone. (though not all of the LTE freq but one would be enough).
My question is whether the phone is locked to work only on verizon or it work with any other network with similar freq?
Thanks.
World unlocked phone so it should work in Europe hussy not in USA
Sent from my XT907 using xda app-developers app
I had the pre-release developer version and used it on AT&T despite Verizon branding. Worked fine but 4G LTE is faster.
Not sure if the retail developer version will be same.
legolas.w said:
Hi,
I am planning to buy the developer edition and take back with me to Europe. My network provider supports:
Required :GSM 900
Recommended :GSM 900 and GSM 1800
4G LTE: 900, 2600, and 800
Based on these I assume that the phone would work with my network provider as the same freq. are supported by the phone. (though not all of the LTE freq but one would be enough).
My question is whether the phone is locked to work only on verizon or it work with any other network with similar freq?
Thanks.
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On GSMArena, both phones are listed under the same page with these details:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - all models
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - N9005
4G Network LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600 - N9005
Which are for the N9000? And which for the N9005?
My carrier is using 900Mhz and 1800Mhz for 2G and 2100Mhz for 3G with no 4G yet. Will the N9005 work fine? I prefer to get a LTE-ready phone because I travel a lot.
-EDIT: My sources can't confirm whether the 900Mhz band is supported for 2G or 3G but it should help with basic reception for phone calls either way.
BullHorn7 said:
On GSMArena, both phones are listed under the same page with these details:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - all models
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - N9005
4G Network LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600 - N9005
Which are for the N9000? And which for the N9005?
My carrier is using 900Mhz and 1800Mhz for 2G and 2100Mhz for 3G with no 4G yet. Will the N9005 work fine? I prefer to get a LTE-ready phone because I travel a lot.
-EDIT: My sources can't confirm whether the 900Mhz band is supported for 2G or 3G but it should help with basic reception for phone calls either way.
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If the phone you are looking at shows 4G bands, then it's N9005. From what you mentioned about the frequencies used by our carrier, the N9005 will work just fine. However, consider the regional lock problem before you buy a grey market device. The phone you buy might be capable of working with your network, but that does not mean it will actually work.
sharl1987 said:
If the phone you are looking at shows 4G bands, then it's N9005. From what you mentioned about the frequencies used by our carrier, the N9005 will work just fine. However, consider the regional lock problem before you buy a grey market device. The phone you buy might be capable of working with your network, but that does not mean it will actually work.
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Great news, thanks. Yes, Samsung should eat **** and die for their latest stunt. I almost think they've done it purposefully to create a giant wave of free-marketing because there's no such thing as bad publicity.
BullHorn7 said:
Great news, thanks. Yes, Samsung should eat **** and die for their latest stunt. I almost think they've done it purposefully to create a giant wave of free-marketing because there's no such thing as bad publicity.
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well, you can always use an unlocking service. Many members have tried that method and it worked for them.
sharl1987 said:
If the phone you are looking at shows 4G bands, then it's N9005. From what you mentioned about the frequencies used by our carrier, the N9005 will work just fine. However, consider the regional lock problem before you buy a grey market device. The phone you buy might be capable of working with your network, but that does not mean it will actually work.
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well, you can always use an unlocking service. Many members have tried that method and it worked for them.
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Nah. I'm not going to pay extra money to unlock and unlocked sim-free international phone.
Thanks Samsung for helping me save my money by not buying your ****.
I'm looking for help to find:
1) Which MPN firmware version works on bands 1, 3 8 and 20.
2) Where can I download that MPN to flash it to my N9005.
I found out the hard way that the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 LTE/4G N9005, international unlocked model will not necessarily work on the bands which it is compatible with due to a stupid Samsung policy: Samsung locks some bands on their factory unlocked phone!
Absurd and stupid!
sharl1987 said:
If the phone you are looking at shows 4G bands, then it's N9005. From what you mentioned about the frequencies used by our carrier, the N9005 will work just fine. However, consider the regional lock problem before you buy a grey market device. The phone you buy might be capable of working with your network, but that does not mean it will actually work.
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Yes, you are right!
I discovered that the N9005:
- Comes in a number of different MPN versions (*)
- Each MPN version is locked to certain radios/frequencies (even though the N9005 phone is a factory unlocked phone).
- Up to a maximum of 6 radios can be set per each version.
(*)
ZKEXSI, ZKEBTU, ZWEBTU, ZIEITV, ZKEITV, ZWEITV, ZKEPHE, ZKEDBT, ZWEPHN, ZKEPHN, ZKATGY... just to mention a few.
I flashed the new 4.4.2 Polish OS (XXUENA6, OXXENA5, XXUENA2) on my N90005 to try to unlock the LTE bands that I'm interested in (1, 3 8 and 20) as I have 2 contracts (Vodafone Italy & Softbank Japan) but I found out that my N9005 will not work with these 2 operators, even though it is compatible.
Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
I've been looking for ways to use my N9005 with Tmobile US but the frequency is different so I don't get and LTE signal. Did you guys find a way if we can add frequencies manually? Or is it really with the hardware?
marloweloy said:
I've been looking for ways to use my N9005 with Tmobile US but the frequency is different so I don't get and LTE signal. Did you guys find a way if we can add frequencies manually? Or is it really with the hardware?
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I read somewhere this is possible on the Note 2, but it might take a while before someone does it on the Note 3...
xdm9mm said:
I read somewhere this is possible on the Note 2, but it might take a while before someone does it on the Note 3...
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Oh okay. Thank you. I thought we can try to flash a tmobile modem on N9005 to make it work. But I guess it will ruin my phone.
[Q] Difference btwn Carrier phone(t-mobile, AT&T etc.) & International n9005 LTE
Hi,
I would like to know if theres a difference between a carrier phone(t-mobile, AT&T etc.) & International n9005 LTE? I try looking up the information and through the forums but I'm still kind of confuse and dont have a set answer. I know the carrier phone is n900 but other than that is there any differences? I live in the US. now but I use to have international phones in case I travel, rooting wise and etc. But after the regional lock issue, I'm not sure which version to buy now.
Thank you!!:good:
mrpug said:
Hi,
I would like to know if theres a difference between a carrier phone(t-mobile, AT&T etc.) & International n9005 LTE? I try looking up the information and through the forums but I'm still kind of confuse and dont have a set answer. I know the carrier phone is n900 but other than that is there any differences? I live in the US. now but I use to have international phones in case I travel, rooting wise and etc. But after the regional lock issue, I'm not sure which version to buy now.
Thank you!!:good:
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It is my understanding and I am sure I will be corrected that the N900T, A V etc are not region locked. Just carrier locked. Fellow forum member did a nice write up about the differences of the US Carrier versions. His name is Mircury.
As far as I know the carrier models are carrier and region locked but if you root the device you can use ChainFire's region away app and you will be able to swap out sim cards based on your location. T-Mobile just unveiled free world roaming data usage though and with T-Mobile you can use WiFi calling so if you are outside the country you can use the data and make calls on WiFi at no additional cost.
The Carrier-specific versions have a few LTE bands unlocked that the International one doesn't.
Limeybastard said:
It is my understanding and I am sure I will be corrected that the N900T, A V etc are not region locked. Just carrier locked. Fellow forum member did a nice write up about the differences of the US Carrier versions. His name is Mircury.
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ah thanks, found it, was really helpful:good:
so technically speaking international n9005LTE will not be compatible with t-mobile's 3g or 4g LTE? as the bandwidth as I see the people mention in that forum is not compatible?
I went to a store to check the phone out and a seller of the international n9005 told me the data will be running on H? would you happen to know what it means?
Thanks !
AdmiralCF420 said:
As far as I know the carrier models are carrier and region locked but if you root the device you can use ChainFire's region away app and you will be able to swap out sim cards based on your location. T-Mobile just unveiled free world roaming data usage though and with T-Mobile you can use WiFi calling so if you are outside the country you can use the data and make calls on WiFi at no additional cost.
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Ah I see, so would you assume that getting the T-mobile one will be better compare to the international n9005LTE?
mrpug said:
ah thanks, found it, was really helpful:good:
so technically speaking international n9005LTE will not be compatible with t-mobile's 3g or 4g LTE? as the bandwidth as I see the people mention in that forum is not compatible?
I went to a store to check the phone out and a seller of the international n9005 told me the data will be running on H? would you happen to know what it means?
Thanks !
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HSPA perhaps? I am not rooted or have I used Chairfires method. I have two options to prove this case, either buy a UK sim card here and put it in my phone and see what occurs or wait til I get there.
The N900T seems to okay, yes if you want to use it here on ATT or T mobile at least. With perhaps a little roaming overseas.
There is also another thread named something like Region locked, its over 100 pages, good luck!
Here you go..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457964
mrpug said:
ah thanks, found it, was really helpful:good:
so technically speaking international n9005LTE will not be compatible with t-mobile's 3g or 4g LTE? as the bandwidth as I see the people mention in that forum is not compatible?
I went to a store to check the phone out and a seller of the international n9005 told me the data will be running on H? would you happen to know what it means?
Thanks !
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The order of speed is this: (Network/Signal Designation)
GSM/G (2G)
GPRS/G+ (2.5G)
EDGE/E (2.75G)
UMTS/3G (3G)
HSPA/H (3.5G)
HSPA+/H+ (3.75G)
LTE (3.9G)
LTE Advanced (4G)
So H is HSPA = 3.5G.
International N9005 can get the 3G signal on pretty much any frequency, including US. It's the LTE bands that are incompatible.
T-Mobile US runs LTE on the 1700Mhz band, and 3G on the 1900Mhz band.
AT&T and Verizon use the 700, 1700 and 2100Mhz band for LTE, and 850 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
Sprint uses the 800, 1900 and 2500Mhz for LTE, and 800 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
N9005 International gets:
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G/LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600.
Limeybastard said:
HSPA perhaps? I am not rooted or have I used Chairfires method. I have two options to prove this case, either buy a UK sim card here and put it in my phone and see what occurs or wait til I get there.
The N900T seems to okay, yes if you want to use it here on ATT or T mobile at least. With perhaps a little roaming overseas.
There is also another thread named something like Region locked, its over 100 pages, good luck!
Here you go..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457964
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yea I read through that whole forum but was just confused about the differences
ShadowLea said:
The order of speed is this: (Network/Signal Designation)
GSM/G (2G)
GPRS/G+ (2.5G)
EDGE/E (2.75G)
UMTS/3G (3G)
HSPA/H (3.5G)
HSPA+/H+ (3.75G)
LTE (3.9G)
LTE Advanced (4G)
So H is HSPA = 3.5G.
International N9005 can get the 3G signal on pretty much any frequency, including US. It's the LTE bands that are incompatible.
T-Mobile US runs LTE on the 1700Mhz band, and 3G on the 1900Mhz band.
AT&T and Verizon use the 700, 1700 and 2100Mhz band for LTE, and 850 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
Sprint uses the 800, 1900 and 2500Mhz for LTE, and 800 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
N9005 International gets:
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G/LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600.
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Let us not forgot what other Bands the T MobileN900T has for LTE not just based on what they run here..
ShadowLea said:
The order of speed is this: (Network/Signal Designation)
GSM/G (2G)
GPRS/G+ (2.5G)
EDGE/E (2.75G)
UMTS/3G (3G)
HSPA/H (3.5G)
HSPA+/H+ (3.75G)
LTE (3.9G)
LTE Advanced (4G)
So H is HSPA = 3.5G.
International N9005 can get the 3G signal on pretty much any frequency, including US. It's the LTE bands that are incompatible.
T-Mobile US runs LTE on the 1700Mhz band, and 3G on the 1900Mhz band.
AT&T and Verizon use the 700, 1700 and 2100Mhz band for LTE, and 850 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
Sprint uses the 800, 1900 and 2500Mhz for LTE, and 800 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
N9005 International gets:
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G/LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600.
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ok now im understanding it better, I was trying to find information through the forums but I guess I got confuse reading information here and there cause some people were saying it runs on 2g and some says 3g.
Thank alot!:laugh:
mrpug said:
ok now im understanding it better, I was trying to find information through the forums but I guess I got confuse reading information here and there cause some people were saying it runs on 2g and some says 3g.
Thank alot!:laugh:
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I think in all honesty the best speed I will get with my Note 3 N900T in the UK will be 3G. Not until they start using band 7 2600 which is still not used but reserved for future.
Limeybastard said:
Let us not forgot what other Bands the T MobileN900T has for LTE not just based on what they run here..
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I just compared the N9005, which he asked about, with the US cellular providers. Having multiple bands is lovely, but if your provider isn't using them, they're also a bit pointless
mrpug said:
ok now im understanding it better, I was trying to find information through the forums but I guess I got confuse reading information here and there cause some people were saying it runs on 2g and some says 3g.
Thank alot!:laugh:
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It can get a bit confusing, yes.
ShadowLea said:
I just compared the N9005, which he asked about, with the US cellular providers. Having multiple bands is lovely, but if your provider isn't using them, they're also a bit pointless
It can get a bit confusing, yes.
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I thought he was like me and wanting to travel.? LOL
Limeybastard said:
I thought he was like me and wanting to travel.? LOL
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Your both correct lols :laugh: I mostly live in the US but for when I do travel which is often, its nice to know what the phone can and cannot do.
mrpug said:
Your both correct lols :laugh: I mostly live in the US but for when I do travel which is often, its nice to know what the phone can and cannot do.
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Don't worry I've done my research and concluded, if you live in the USA and travel then go for the N900T. I did :good:
Limeybastard said:
Don't worry I've done my research and concluded, if you live in the USA and travel then go for the N900T. I did :good:
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lols How often do you travel? Majority of the time i'm in the US
mrpug said:
lols How often do you travel? Majority of the time i'm in the US
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Not much, but when I do travel ( excuse the pun ) I go to the United Kingdom and occasionally whilst there travel to Gay Paris.:laugh:
Limeybastard said:
Not much, but when I do travel ( excuse the pun ) I go to the United Kingdom and occasionally whilst there travel to Gay Paris.:laugh:
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haha:laugh:, at least your traveling to Paris, I know people who would love to go there but haven't got the chance yet.
ShadowLea said:
The order of speed is this: (Network/Signal Designation)
GSM/G (2G)
GPRS/G+ (2.5G)
EDGE/E (2.75G)
UMTS/3G (3G)
HSPA/H (3.5G)
HSPA+/H+ (3.75G)
LTE (3.9G)
LTE Advanced (4G)
So H is HSPA = 3.5G.
International N9005 can get the 3G signal on pretty much any frequency, including US. It's the LTE bands that are incompatible.
T-Mobile US runs LTE on the 1700Mhz band, and 3G on the 1900Mhz band.
AT&T and Verizon use the 700, 1700 and 2100Mhz band for LTE, and 850 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
Sprint uses the 800, 1900 and 2500Mhz for LTE, and 800 and 1900Mhz for 3G.
N9005 International gets:
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G/LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600.
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So pretty much you won't be able to get a factory unlocked LTE Note 3 working on T-Mobile LTE? Please tell me I'm mistaken.
Hi
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...s&ie=UTF8&qid=1411428914&sr=1-3&keywords=1700
Will this S5 work with wind/mobilicity in Canada? Its has the 1700/2100 frequency but it is listed under LTE. Now wind/mobilicity have 4g not LTE. But it is on 1700/2100.
So will it work with these sim cards?
Thanks!
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Donate because I want to thank for what?
Anyway, as to your question about using a phone on Wind or Mobilicity, you neglected to tell us what model it was. Rather essential information that. I'm not interested in following random links when you could have easily posted what the phone model was.
Wind Canada uses the sm-g900w8 model on AWS. If you want to try using another variant model, you have to check if it supports the same frequency bands or not. Have a look on Samsung's web site for the other model and find out.
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lol really?
Anyways it is this model: Samsung Galaxy S5 SM-G900A
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100; LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600
Now this supports 1700/2100 which is used by wind/mobilicity but they dont have LTE. Will it work?
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