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hi, all dear hd2 users,
In that 'Weird camera colour balance?' thread, some guys are still not convinced that their cameras have the pink problem. For me, I had also thought I am the lucky one who don't have the defect until today.
first thing to remember, do not use flash, because the strong light could make all the pics very white without pink spots;
2, take a clean white paper;
3, take several pictures of a clean white paper;
4, put them in a folder in your pc;
5, then display them in thumbnails.
you will see how obvious the pink spots in the centre are!
don't use the pictures of colourful scenes to do this experiment because they could cover the pink and easily cheat our naked eyes!
attached are some of my pics with pink spot, the bluish one is even with flash.
and one very important thing, don't forget to reply this post to tell me the results!
Cheers!
I dont have the time to do the pictures but you're definitely right, I didnt think I got it but I actually do.
Hope they get this and all the other problems fixed soon.
Its a hardware fault, you need to send your phone back, software will never fix it.
jrvenge said:
Its a hardware fault, you need to send your phone back, software will never fix it.
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no it isnt, that has been discussed, there is a long thread abtou this already. t was determined 100% to be software. I would post the existing thread but i dont feel like going to search for it Trust me, its there
Hopefully it is really software issue.
I don`t think i have the issue, but god lets hope its not.
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I don`t think i have the issue, but god lets hope its not.
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i didn`t think too, i tryied that and i have something... but it is not so bad... so i`m okay
I posted on the previous thread that I do not have the problem. I've used the camera a lot of times and never seen this pink blobby-blur thing in the middle of the picture.
On the other hand, I do not spend hours taking pictures of pieces of white paper, or white walls, so I'm not fussed. As it states in the main post of this thread, "don't use the pictures of colourful scenes to do this experiment because they could cover the pink and easily cheat our naked eyes!"
That to me says you don't see this problem unless you go looking for it. Okay, the colour may be slightly off if your phone IS displaying this fault, but if you can't see it with a colour picture, who the hell cares?
johncmolyneux said:
I posted on the previous thread that I do not have the problem. I've used the camera a lot of times and never seen this pink blobby-blur thing in the middle of the picture.
On the other hand, I do not spend hours taking pictures of pieces of white paper, or white walls, so I'm not fussed. As it states in the main post of this thread, "don't use the pictures of colourful scenes to do this experiment because they could cover the pink and easily cheat our naked eyes!"
That to me says you don't see this problem unless you go looking for it. Okay, the colour may be slightly off if your phone IS displaying this fault, but if you can't see it with a colour picture, who the hell cares?
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^^^ THIS ^^^
I did the above experiment and can see the pink hue when taking pictures of a white piece of paper, but as johncmolyneux says it's not really an issue in normal use. Any camera with a small fixed lens is not going to give the best pictures and is no substitute for a dedicated digital camera with a much larger optical focus lens, especially when taking pictures close-up of a high contrast object. If HTC had fitted a larger lens with optical zoom then this camera would be a far chunkier device and not not to carry around in your pocket as a great all-round communication system.
I never intended the HD2 to replace my compact digital camera anyway, so for, me this isn't a real problem.
I think we will find that the pink tinge problem is hardware related, some digital cameras can suffer from what is called a hot spot. The problem usually only shows up when trying to take an IR photo as its something to do with too much IR light getting through to the sensor. Its possible that the lense on the HTC has a coating problem thats letting too much IR light through to the sensor. If this is the case only replacing the lense will fix it.
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^^^ THIS ^^^
I did the above experiment and can see the pink hue when taking pictures of a white piece of paper, but as johncmolyneux says it's not really an issue in normal use. Any camera with a small fixed lens is not going to give the best pictures and is no substitute for a dedicated digital camera with a much larger optical focus lens, especially when taking pictures close-up of a high contrast object. If HTC had fitted a larger lens with optical zoom then this camera would be a far chunkier device and not not to carry around in your pocket as a great all-round communication system.
I never intended the HD2 to replace my compact digital camera anyway, so for, me this isn't a real problem.
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Well, its a big problem for me. A phone at that price, and compared to other phones, really should have a better/satisfying camera. I find it unacceptable that my old Diamond takes better pictures!
And yes, its the hardware...i just hope they will return my phone fast or simply give me a new one.
There already is a thread about this.
I suggest the two be merged if possible.
mallman said:
no it isnt, that has been discussed, there is a long thread abtou this already. t was determined 100% to be software. I would post the existing thread but i dont feel like going to search for it Trust me, its there
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HTC originally said it was a hardware issue. Then they changed their minds and said it was a rare software issue. Then they changed their minds again and said it was a common software issue and that they are working on a hotfix.
I'm not convinced, to be honest: my suspicion is that it really is a hardware issue that HTC intends to try to compensate for in software, and that they're lying about it.
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I did the above experiment and can see the pink hue when taking pictures of a white piece of paper, but as johncmolyneux says it's not really an issue in normal use.
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I beg to differ: it's very obvious in normal use. It's MORE obvious when you take a picture of a white piece of paper, sure; but that's just a convenient way to test quickly for what is a universal problem.
Shasarak said:
I beg to differ: it's very obvious in normal use. It's MORE obvious when you take a picture of a white piece of paper, sure; but that's just a convenient way to test quickly for what is a universal problem.
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It's noticeable if you look for it, I personally didn't notice it till I read about the problem. I'm more inclined to believe it's a software fault as using flash when taking pictures I don't get the pink hue in the middle of the pics so it sounds like something to do with the light balancing algorithm as mentioned in the other thread.
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And yes, its the hardware...i just hope they will return my phone fast or simply give me a new one.
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Know that for sure do you, Know more than the people who made the phone? NO didnt think so
sharpey said:
Know that for sure do you, Know more than the people who made the phone? NO didnt think so
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What HTC knows and what HTC publically says aren't necessarily the same thing. Initially they said it was a hardware issue, then they changed their minds. Why? Was it because it is actually a software issue, but HTC tech support gets no information from HTC head office, had to guess, guessed wrong, and was belatedly corrected? Or was it because it's really a hardware issue, tech support knew this and announced it, and head office then suppressed the information in order to protect HTC's reputation and avoid a recall, and is now telling lies? There's no way to tell, but at least one of HTC's statements must be either a mistake or a lie.
Go to the older thread
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...protect HTC's reputation and avoid a recall...
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Whatever the politics or reasons, I doubt very much that this issue would warrant a recall as it does not render the device unfit for purpose.
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Whatever the politics or reasons, I doubt very much that this issue would warrant a recall as it does not render the device unfit for purpose.
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IMO, it does.
Even if you disagree, it wouldn't require a formal recall to be extremely damaging to HTC's sales; a lot of people returning their HD's and a lot of others not buying it because of a known hardware issue would be bad enough. HTC has plenty of incentive to lie.
I decided to take a vacation from my GSII and decided too give the DVP a try and wow! is a gorgeous unique phone. I bought this device for cheap and my expectations weren't high at all. First thing I notice the great looks of the DVP have then the screen quality blew me away, I was expecting a screen like the HD2 or HD7 but is great nothing like Super Amoled Plus but its still better than the first HTC Windows phones. Where the DVP fell short or more like flat on its face was the camera, the camera is just a hit and miss. Too bad the DVP will just be another good phone murder by such a bad launch I hope MS keep supporting this device.
That sounds about right as:
SAMOLED+: SGSII
AMOLED: V/VP
S/LCD: HD2/7, Streak5
I can attest that even if it isnt a SAMOLED+, it's still nicer then S/LCD.
Wish it was SAMOLED though, even without the + the difference between a bonded display/glass and unbonded is pretty noticable.
Esp if you end up getting dust under the screen
Dell doesnt need MS to help them screw up launches, they already hold the record for that. (it's every single launch, or at worst all but one launch screwed up)
The camera is due to it being a WP7 device? The V has a 8MP cam and the VP has a 5MP cam (though I cant speak for the actual image quality on each), dell wouldnt randomly downgrade the camera without reason.
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That sounds about right as:
SAMOLED+: SGSII
AMOLED: V/VP
S/LCD: HD2/7, Streak5
I can attest that even if it isnt a SAMOLED+, it's still nicer then S/LCD.
Wish it was SAMOLED though, even without the + the difference between a bonded display/glass and unbonded is pretty noticable.
Esp if you end up getting dust under the screen
Dell doesnt need MS to help them screw up launches, they already hold the record for that. (it's every single launch, or at worst all but one launch screwed up)
The camera is due to it being a WP7 device? The V has a 8MP cam and the VP has a 5MP cam (though I cant speak for the actual image quality on each), dell wouldnt randomly downgrade the camera without reason.
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I agree the camera issue is all software not hardware if you look at the reviews of the Nokia N9 and the Lumia 800 or 900 the pictures come out more washout and the N9s pictures come out better with the same carl zeiss lens. Yeah this device was the most wanted of all windows devices and dell delayed the launch people were getting testing devices bugs and device issues more delays and the list goes on. I hope the designers of the DVP get another shot maybe in another company.
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I agree the camera issue is all software not hardware if you look at the reviews of the Nokia N9 and the Lumia 800 or 900 the pictures come out more washout and the N9s pictures come out better with the same carl zeiss lens. Yeah this device was the most wanted of all windows devices and dell delayed the launch people were getting testing devices bugs and device issues more delays and the list goes on. I hope the designers of the DVP get another shot maybe in another company.
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HTC didn't seem to have any problems with the software and produced good cameras in the Titan and Radar. The crappy camera is all Dell.
I think he misunderstood me, I believe the camera issue is mostly hardware.
I dont recall what the WP7 specs are for cameras (besides having a rear one),
WP7 is really anal about chassis requirements, they had to use a specific sensor for the camera?
The VP has a 'worse' cam then the V regardless and dell devices in general have ok at best rear cams.
My old iphone 3g had a better camera, but it was intentionally limited by both hardware and software (fixed focus, no digital zoom)
Keep in mind that the cam isnt a single unit, it's the sensor and lense (and the software backing it).
Even if all WP7 devices used the same sensor there's nothing stopping manus from using their own lenses.
Dell really skimps out on lenses, that's much more important then whatever sensor's inside regardless.
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HTC didn't seem to have any problems with the software and produced good cameras in the Titan and Radar. The crappy camera is all Dell.
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I'm not arguing that the dell camera is a low quality cam but the issue is software more than hardware. Me mentioning Nokia n9 and 800/900 was an example about camera quality, they use the same camera same optics and they still didn't manage to get the same quality. Why? because the software needs improvement nothing is wrong with the lens used on the 800 or 900 so is it Nokia been lazy or Windows holding the lens back who knows. The camera on HTC are good to average but dell did a poor job on the camera.
Grats on getting your DVP. I dont know if anyone has this but when I take pictures with my DVP, there is a pink tone to the picture(and it's not from my fingers being near the lens or something). But anyways, great phone but what really gets me is that there is only one case for the DVP which is the Otterbox communter not counting all of those leather cases.
bugggaman said:
Grats on getting your DVP. I dont know if anyone has this but when I take pictures with my DVP, there is a pink tone to the picture(and it's not from my fingers being near the lens or something). But anyways, great phone but what really gets me is that there is only one case for the DVP which is the Otterbox communter not counting all of those leather cases.
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I kinda doubt you can fix the pink spot try changing the camera settings maybe a miracle happens but that's another software issue. The other issue I have is dust under the screen I guess dell didn't seal the device correctly now I have to take it apart and clean it but I'm sure thats not gonna fix this problem in the long run.
Hi XDA,
I just bought my Xperia Z2 yesterday and i went to the batch numbers topic and checked for Issues reported by people there. Fortunatelly i dinot have any issues but today i noticed the front camera quality was very poor. There is a Yellowish reddish tint that appears on the front camera however the back cover is fine. The picture is like thousand of small dots flicker on the screen and if i keep it very close to my face then i can notice it. If I click the Picture the picture seems to be completely fine.
Can any one of you please check and let me know if you are also facing this kind of Issue?
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Hi XDA,
I just bought my Xperia Z2 yesterday and i went to the batch numbers topic and checked for Issues reported by people there. Fortunatelly i dinot have any issues but today i noticed the front camera quality was very poor. There is a Yellowish reddish tint that appears on the front camera however the back cover is fine. The picture is like thousand of small dots flicker on the screen and if i keep it very close to my face then i can notice it. If I click the Picture the picture seems to be completely fine.
Can any one of you please check and let me know if you are also facing this kind of Issue?
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Same here if I use it in low light.
kabauterman said:
Same here if I use it in low light.
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I took it to the service center and they said it a problem. He asked me to come tomorrow and they would update the firmware to a latest build and hopefully issue would be resolved otherwise they would replace it for me
ok so i got the same issue but i dont know if it is firmware of the camera problem , but the pic taken out is completely fine
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ok so i got the same issue but i dont know if it is firmware of the camera problem , but the pic taken out is completely fine
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Yes the finished picture is fine but while taking the picture it has a lot of noise. I have checked it with service center guys and they have called me tomorrow to update my firmware to see if issue is resolved otherwise they would replace the phone.However, talking to few people here in XDA it seems that noise issue is there with Sony camera and if the finished picture is fine it is not much of an Issue. So, I am thinking to get the software updated to latest build and then dont take replacement and keep using it.
What is the batch number of your phone ? Mine is 14w19
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Yes the finished picture is fine but while taking the picture it has a lot of noise. I have checked it with service center guys and they have called me tomorrow to update my firmware to see if issue is resolved otherwise they would replace the phone.However, talking to few people here in XDA it seems that noise issue is there with Sony camera and if the finished picture is fine it is not much of an Issue. So, I am thinking to get the software updated to latest build and then dont take replacement and keep using it.
What is the batch number of your phone ? Mine is 14w19
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I would request others to please check the same and report here. I want to make sure its not only on some pieces and is their in each phone
mine is 14w18
If the saved picture comes out fine, how is this even an issue?
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If the saved picture comes out fine, how is this even an issue?
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Of course it's an issue. It alters and creates an inaccurate preview. Why should it be flawed if the front is fine?
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Of course it's an issue. It alters and creates an inaccurate preview. Why should it be flawed if the front is fine?
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Mines also this version and it also has a ton of noise. Thank god I don't take selfies.
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If the saved picture comes out fine, how is this even an issue?
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If you grab Front Camera Video it is also an issue because it uses the same Live-View as what you see on the screen.
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If you grab Front Camera Video it is also an issue because it uses the same Live-View as what you see on the screen.
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Yes I agree. The video has hell lot of noise. But the picture comes out clear. I took the phone to service center and they reflashed the firmware and issue was still there. He told me he can replace the phone for me, but i refused as this is only the problem and i dont want to get a newphone which is of a different batch and has hell lot of other Issues.
Yeah, I've had this problem since I got the phone. I made a thread a couple weeks ago about it being an issue. I'm not updated to the current software, but I didn't think it would help, lol.
And it is very important to me as I'm a SnapChat whore in every meaning of the word, and, for some reason, the final image when taken in SnapChat is NOT made better as if it were taken with the Camera app.
I also have a 14w19, and I see what you mean. I don't mind so much as I don't use the front camera a whole lot (only with SnapChat, and the video quality isn't always the nest there anyway). I'm not bothered.
I'm bothered that for $700, the hardware and perhaps software in this case is so obviously flawed. I mean they really advertised the hell out of their camera prowess. But the front camera looks like the whole screen is dipped in sand.
It is clearly a software issue and I think it dosnt matter what batch you have, mine is 14W18 and in with really low light I have this issue but if there is some light left there is no problem at all and also the back camera did not have any kind of this issue in my case.
I'm sure that it's a software issue. Why else would the picture be correct after actually taking it with the built-in Camera app?
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today i noticed the front camera quality was very poor. There is a Yellowish reddish tint that appears on the front camera however the back cover is fine. The picture is like thousand of small dots flicker on the screen and if i keep it very close to my face then i can notice it. If I click the Picture the picture seems to be completely fine.
Can any one of you please check and let me know if you are also facing this kind of Issue?
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It's hard to tell what you mean exactly here. Are you saying the display on the screen has small dots on it or the picture it takes is not good.
is this something that comes across in a video chat or not as in the other person sees the same as well.
Can you post a screen shot so we understand better what you mean ?
One Twelve said:
It's hard to tell what you mean exactly here. Are you saying the display on the screen has small dots on it or the picture it takes is not good.
is this something that comes across in a video chat or not as in the other person sees the same as well.
Can you post a screen shot so we understand better what you mean ?
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Actually i wont be able to post a screenshot of it. I am talking about the front camera, when you start it the preview window that we see it is full of noise and it seems as if it has sand all over it. But the final picture is fine.
One Twelve said:
It's hard to tell what you mean exactly here. Are you saying the display on the screen has small dots on it or the picture it takes is not good.
is this something that comes across in a video chat or not as in the other person sees the same as well.
Can you post a screen shot so we understand better what you mean ?
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I happened to click the picture from another phone. Just see the Noise. Even if i am under light then also the noise is there but is very minimal in case if I am in complete Darkness the screen is filled with Noise.
manu44 said:
I happened to click the picture from another phone. Just see the Noise. Even if i am under light then also the noise is there but is very minimal in case if I am in complete Darkness the screen is filled with Noise.
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I have this too (and I suspect everyone does)
The front camera is quite simply not very good. The reason the captured image comes out slightly differently is most probably because it's a longer exposure (than realtime preview) and there's also some noise reduction in the post processing)
Hi everybody,
I've been using my Note 4 for a week. It's a great phone, great display, great performance and what I was convinced would be a great camera.
Before that I used a S3 (International version I9300) for two years and a S5 (International version G900F) for six months and nothing negative to say about them. They both gave great, clear, beautiful, sharp pictures, especially for a phone (I couldn't imagine it was possible before). I think it's important to say that so I can justify myself and show I'm not making up things...
I started to have doubts after a couple a days concerning the Note 4 camera. I found the pictures not sharp, especially in edges (kind of tilt-shift effect).
And then, yesterday, several XDA topics confirmed my concerns ...
So... To sum up :
Far pictures have blurry edges (I know lenses edges can be blurry, but in this case, when I mean blurry, I mean sometimes 1 third of the pictures... Close pictures and close-ups are great.
When taking pictures in landscape mode, focusing in the bottom third of the screen is just not possible, I can't see the focusing screen in this zone, as it did on the S3 or S5.
Locking focus has never been and is never possible (when trying to focus, I can see the focusing circle but I can't see or hear any green circle or sound confirmation (as it did on the S3 or S5, you can see my youtube video).
To make everything clear again, I (still) own a S3 and S5 with no camera problem, with a normal behaviour and we have two Note 4 at home with the exact same problems.
I have a master in digital photography and, being less picture enthusiastic and having not enough time, I replaced my equipment by these devices, and I was totally ok with that. (= I know I'm not making up things)
To illustrate what I'm saying (I know some of these pictures were made in a foggy weather but depth of field is clearly not "logical" here...).
https://www.dropbox.com/s/usfdln0o0odwdf7/20141214_115344.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/thxhsawjxjbu05t/20141214_121610.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dyxavgcj6qeyf28/20141207_101614.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y5Axxp_UMY&feature=youtu.be
I assume the problem here may be part software and part hardware (but again, two Note 4 with same problems ?).
Could a Samsung rep take this problem serioulsy and take it into account for a next update ? (except if it's a hardware problem )
Thanks a lot for your attention !
Chris.
I'm pretty sure your device is faulty. The blur in your images is not normal, I guess the lens is not mounted correctly. This may also be the reason for your focusing problems.
Have a look at the photo thread, you'll see plenty of images without blur.
I agree with you but what about the focusing problem on just a part of the screen ? (see the youtube video).
And the fact we have two note 4 with the same problems :/.
adinava said:
I agree with you but what about the focusing problem on just a part of the screen ? (see the youtube video).
And the fact we have two note 4 with the same problems :/.
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im having the same problem with just focus on one part of the screen. other apps focuses fine though so its a software problem.
I use the google camera app alot cos stock samsung app seem to forget to use the flash even in dark rooms.
adinava said:
I agree with you but what about the focusing problem on just a part of the screen ? (see the youtube video).
And the fact we have two note 4 with the same problems :/.
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I experienced that focusing problem. Can't remember if STOCK straight out of the box did it, but I know when I used FireKat ROM it did it. I flashed the Camera Mod and it did it. But, now I'm using DynamicKat and it's fine. The far left edge of the camera picks up my touch and focuses.
Also for the Blurr thing. Is your Camera MODE in Selective Focus?
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I experienced that focusing problem. Can't remember if STOCK straight out of the box did it, but I know when I used FireKat ROM it did it. I flashed the Camera Mod and it did it. But, now I'm using DynamicKat and it's fine. The far left edge of the camera picks up my touch and focuses.
Also for the Blurr thing. Is your Camera MODE in Selective Focus?
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I still have stock ROM.
Are you also experiencing different focus zones in your pictures?
I'm really starting to think my camera is defective .
No. But did you make sure that you are not using Selective Focus Mode?
Yes, I did. All my tests and conclusions were based on my S3 and S5 experience
Well I read your post thoroughly and felt that you have written a reflection of what is going through my mind.
Exact same issues !! If you read my twitter feed ~ 10 days ago you will be happy to know that you are not alone.
I noticed the problem in the first 2 days of purchase and took it to a Samsung store few days later. They were very defensive initially but after 10 mins of technical conversation with a dude who did not know much about the difference between camera resolution and screen resolution I could show them the blur. Both on my phone and on a PC they had in store.
We did some like for like comparison with another note 4. Problem was evident.
They advice me to go back to service provider (Virgin Australia) and request a replacement under early life hardware failure.
I am now playing the to and fro game with my service provider who are throwing in all sort of hurdles. Hope I get a replacement !!!
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Just to show that I was really at the store
http://s27.postimg.org/ply8u686r/20141207_150515.jpg
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I tried with s5 camera on sport mode and the same result the photo is still blur. .i beleve this is the software problem not the camera. .
Typical problem of the Note 4's software.
I also opened a thread for discussing the matter - but people just did not understand the problem.
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2948640
Just got nonsense replies.
Seems to be close to impossible making people understand the obvious... :/
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adinava said:
To illustrate what I'm saying (I know some of these pictures were made in a foggy weather but depth of field is clearly not "logical" here...)
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Possible to post pictures a bit larger than those "thumbnails" ?
Chefproll said:
Possible to post pictures a bit larger than those "thumbnails" ?
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Yes Chefproll, here they are . Plus two new ones taken today.
See, when I focus on the left side of the screen, almost the rest of the picture is blurry and when I focus on the right side, the left part of the picture is blurry...
I assume the lens is off-center mounted :/...
Same case ...... see the photos ...
ebusuhejbi said:
I tried with s5 camera on sport mode and the same result the photo is still blur. .i beleve this is the software problem not the camera. .
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SO I found out from android central forums that if you shake it for like 30 seconds it works so obviously its a problem. I tried google camera and camera 360 and neither worked but my front camera is amazing. I'd suggest a swap for a brand new unit.
Mmahrous said:
Same case ...... see the photos ...
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They are Extremely blurry, Did you by chance forget to take the protective plastic off?
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They are Extremely blurry, Did you by chance forget to take the protective plastic off?
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I was thinking the same too.
I own N910C and i don't have this issue at all. I know there are two types of camera lens in the note 4 one is Sony and the other one is Samsung. Maybe you have one of the others ?!
Glad i found this thread.. I have the exact same issue with my note 4. You need to be knowledgeable with photography in order to articulate the issue and identify the problem.. Most posts keeps talking about the protective film.... Arghh
However the issue is not constantly there for me... It's almost as if the lens module is mounted loosely, and it can go out of alignment relative to the sensor, creating a tilt shift effect.
Sometimes it seems if i shake the phone, or tap a few times on the camera lens, the issue goes away...
Very frustrating. Did you ever resolve it?
Thought it might be the ois acting up... However i couldn't disable it for stills...
I have the auto focus issue as well. shaking the device or tapping the bottom a few (hard) times makes the cam focus properly. Problem is there all the time, although after focussing properly gone, then reappearing after camera app close..
I've also noticed this issue. I have more problems focusing on the left (Samsung logo) side of my camera sensor. If I flip the phone over, the same side of the device produces blurry details while the other captures it crisp.
http://imgur.com/kEnHKg2
http://imgur.com/dF9jHBD
Notice how the bag is clear in one, blurry in the other. The Samsung logo side of my device seems to always be blurry in photos of objects about a meter or more away. I have been unable to focus altogether on distant objects where the entire image is blurry.
I've had the same problem and I asked for a replacement. It's a defective unit, now my phone's camera works great.
I use my camera to take pictures of documents, it's faster than scanning them in - I'm finding something that bothers me.
If I focus on the center of the document, the top is a little fuzzy. If I focus at the top, it gets fuzzier as it gets to the bottom. I don't notice it on regular pictures I take, just when I take an up close picture of a document. You can even see this on screen as you are looking at the document.
Can someone take a picture of a document, focus in the center and see if it's all phones, or just mine?
I've attached a picture, you can see it's "fuzzy" at the top of the document, but still legible.
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I noticed if I folded the top of the document towards me, it comes in focus.....So it's almost like the lens is warped possibly? If this is an inherent trait of the A7, I keep it.. If it's just mine, I'll send it back for a replacement, because this is something I do quite often.
tele_jas said:
I use my camera to take pictures of documents, it's faster than scanning them in - I'm finding something that bothers me.
If I focus on the center of the document, the top is a little fuzzy. If I focus at the top, it gets fuzzier as it gets to the bottom. I don't notice it on regular pictures I take, just when I take an up close picture of a document. You can even see this on screen as you are looking at the document.
Can someone take a picture of a document, focus in the center and see if it's all phones, or just mine?
I've attached a picture, you can see it's "fuzzy" at the top of the document, but still legible.
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I noticed if I folded the top of the document towards me, it comes in focus.....So it's almost like the lens is warped possibly? If this is an inherent trait of the A7, I keep it.. If it's just mine, I'll send it back for a replacement, because this is something I do quite often.
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Mine does the same thing.
CandyFoxJ said:
Mine does the same thing.
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Really? Hmmm
I just spent 30 minutes on "live chat" support....I sent the original picture and they seen my issue. They walked me through the normal "stuff" and then had me restart in Safe Mode. After restarting in safe mode and taking more pics and sending them all to the tech, they said it looks like my lens is slightly tilted.
So, I had the option of:
1) Having them fix it with a 10 day turn-around, which means I'd be without a phone for 10 days
2) For an additional $79 they'd send me an exchange first, "Advanced Exchange", so I wouldn't be without a phone
3) Going through with my Amazon exchange and hope I get the replacement before my 30 day window is up to return the faulty phone.
I told them I'd go with Amazon, but if yours is like that, I'm wondering if I should just keep mine now?
Thanks for testing that out for me!
Really? Hmmm
I just spent 30 minutes on "live chat" support....I sent the original picture and they seen my issue. They walked me through the normal "stuff" and then had me restart in Safe Mode. After restarting in safe mode and taking more pics and sending them all to the tech, they said it looks like my lens is slightly tilted.
So, I had the option of:
1) Having them fix it with a 10 day turn-around, which means I'd be without a phone for 10 days
2) For an additional $79 they'd send me an exchange first, "Advanced Exchange", so I wouldn't be without a phone
3) Going through with my Amazon exchange and hope I get the replacement before my 30 day window is up to return the faulty phone.
I told them I'd go with Amazon, but if yours is like that, I'm wondering if I should just keep mine now?
Thanks for testing that out for me! [/QUOTE]
Yep, looks identical to my issue. Regular pics look great, just the close up's are an issue.
I'm gonna think on it and leave my exchange in place until I decide.
Thanks again!
tele_jas said:
Yep, looks identical to my issue. Regular pics look great, just the close up's are an issue.
I'm gonna think on it and leave my exchange in place until I decide.
Thanks again!
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Haven't tested yet but my theory is that the part/section the camera is focusing is clear and the rest of the image is having a DoF effect, i have to test this out but is just an idea.
I don't own the phone yet so i can't test it :/
But trying something similar with my Find 7 i got this :
So we have the same effect, just much less pronounced...
I'm no expert in the optic behind a smartphone camera but isn't it just due to the fact that the top of the page is at a far greater distance than the middle ? The difference between the two distance is too great for the camera to get a good focus of both. This would explain why it's only showing on macro pictures...
EDIT : Well, seems i got the same idea as @DrakenFX but he was faster ^^'
DrakenFX said:
Haven't tested yet but my theory is that the part/section the camera is focusing is clear and the rest of the image is having a DoF effect, i have to test this out but is just an idea.
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^^^ That plus soft edges which most of these lenses will suffer from unless the are premium glass elements. Is there a way to shoot in the 4:3 mode instead 16:9. I think the wide sensor is exposing edge blurring even more
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^^^ That plus soft edges which most of these lenses will suffer from unless the are premium glass elements. Is there a way to shoot in the 4:3 mode instead 16:9. I think the wide sensor is exposing edge blurring even more
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Yeah, here is a screenshot from the Camera settings
Mine does this as well...I took side by side pictures all day with my op3 and thr op3 was substantially better. Making it 4:3 helped some.
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Yeah, here is a screenshot from the Camera settings
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the 4:3 will force you to move away from the page in order to capture it fully, which should in turn decreases the DOF and soft edge effects. Not sure the 16:9 sensor was a smart choice, samsung went back to 4:3 after S6 because the blurring on the edges was too much.
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Could you also do a low ligth shot at full res and 12MP, i am interested how the pixel binning will affect performance. If you can post exif data that would be great. Makes me wonder at what res does the Night Mode run...