I use my camera to take pictures of documents, it's faster than scanning them in - I'm finding something that bothers me.
If I focus on the center of the document, the top is a little fuzzy. If I focus at the top, it gets fuzzier as it gets to the bottom. I don't notice it on regular pictures I take, just when I take an up close picture of a document. You can even see this on screen as you are looking at the document.
Can someone take a picture of a document, focus in the center and see if it's all phones, or just mine?
I've attached a picture, you can see it's "fuzzy" at the top of the document, but still legible.
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I noticed if I folded the top of the document towards me, it comes in focus.....So it's almost like the lens is warped possibly? If this is an inherent trait of the A7, I keep it.. If it's just mine, I'll send it back for a replacement, because this is something I do quite often.
tele_jas said:
I use my camera to take pictures of documents, it's faster than scanning them in - I'm finding something that bothers me.
If I focus on the center of the document, the top is a little fuzzy. If I focus at the top, it gets fuzzier as it gets to the bottom. I don't notice it on regular pictures I take, just when I take an up close picture of a document. You can even see this on screen as you are looking at the document.
Can someone take a picture of a document, focus in the center and see if it's all phones, or just mine?
I've attached a picture, you can see it's "fuzzy" at the top of the document, but still legible.
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I noticed if I folded the top of the document towards me, it comes in focus.....So it's almost like the lens is warped possibly? If this is an inherent trait of the A7, I keep it.. If it's just mine, I'll send it back for a replacement, because this is something I do quite often.
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Mine does the same thing.
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Mine does the same thing.
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Really? Hmmm
I just spent 30 minutes on "live chat" support....I sent the original picture and they seen my issue. They walked me through the normal "stuff" and then had me restart in Safe Mode. After restarting in safe mode and taking more pics and sending them all to the tech, they said it looks like my lens is slightly tilted.
So, I had the option of:
1) Having them fix it with a 10 day turn-around, which means I'd be without a phone for 10 days
2) For an additional $79 they'd send me an exchange first, "Advanced Exchange", so I wouldn't be without a phone
3) Going through with my Amazon exchange and hope I get the replacement before my 30 day window is up to return the faulty phone.
I told them I'd go with Amazon, but if yours is like that, I'm wondering if I should just keep mine now?
Thanks for testing that out for me!
Really? Hmmm
I just spent 30 minutes on "live chat" support....I sent the original picture and they seen my issue. They walked me through the normal "stuff" and then had me restart in Safe Mode. After restarting in safe mode and taking more pics and sending them all to the tech, they said it looks like my lens is slightly tilted.
So, I had the option of:
1) Having them fix it with a 10 day turn-around, which means I'd be without a phone for 10 days
2) For an additional $79 they'd send me an exchange first, "Advanced Exchange", so I wouldn't be without a phone
3) Going through with my Amazon exchange and hope I get the replacement before my 30 day window is up to return the faulty phone.
I told them I'd go with Amazon, but if yours is like that, I'm wondering if I should just keep mine now?
Thanks for testing that out for me! [/QUOTE]
Yep, looks identical to my issue. Regular pics look great, just the close up's are an issue.
I'm gonna think on it and leave my exchange in place until I decide.
Thanks again!
tele_jas said:
Yep, looks identical to my issue. Regular pics look great, just the close up's are an issue.
I'm gonna think on it and leave my exchange in place until I decide.
Thanks again!
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Haven't tested yet but my theory is that the part/section the camera is focusing is clear and the rest of the image is having a DoF effect, i have to test this out but is just an idea.
I don't own the phone yet so i can't test it :/
But trying something similar with my Find 7 i got this :
So we have the same effect, just much less pronounced...
I'm no expert in the optic behind a smartphone camera but isn't it just due to the fact that the top of the page is at a far greater distance than the middle ? The difference between the two distance is too great for the camera to get a good focus of both. This would explain why it's only showing on macro pictures...
EDIT : Well, seems i got the same idea as @DrakenFX but he was faster ^^'
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Haven't tested yet but my theory is that the part/section the camera is focusing is clear and the rest of the image is having a DoF effect, i have to test this out but is just an idea.
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^^^ That plus soft edges which most of these lenses will suffer from unless the are premium glass elements. Is there a way to shoot in the 4:3 mode instead 16:9. I think the wide sensor is exposing edge blurring even more
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^^^ That plus soft edges which most of these lenses will suffer from unless the are premium glass elements. Is there a way to shoot in the 4:3 mode instead 16:9. I think the wide sensor is exposing edge blurring even more
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Yeah, here is a screenshot from the Camera settings
Mine does this as well...I took side by side pictures all day with my op3 and thr op3 was substantially better. Making it 4:3 helped some.
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Yeah, here is a screenshot from the Camera settings
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the 4:3 will force you to move away from the page in order to capture it fully, which should in turn decreases the DOF and soft edge effects. Not sure the 16:9 sensor was a smart choice, samsung went back to 4:3 after S6 because the blurring on the edges was too much.
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Could you also do a low ligth shot at full res and 12MP, i am interested how the pixel binning will affect performance. If you can post exif data that would be great. Makes me wonder at what res does the Night Mode run...
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Hey Guys,
I have a 100% bricked unit a person donated for work.
I took some macro shots. First time. If anyone can give me hints on how to get them more clean / close etc. I will do more.
But, here you go.
Smaller images
http://www.mrcellphoneunlocker.com/vibrant_macro
Raw Images
http://www.mrcellphoneunlocker.com/vibrant_macro/Raw/
Well, you basically need to change the resolution to something higher, and change the settings in the camera to macro mode. From the looks of things though, your camera won't allow close-ups in high detail.
I change to macro. I think i need a tri-pod to keep it steady. my hands shake
Yeah, change resolution to something much higher. Even if you camera doesn't have a macro mode, we should be able to zoom in pretty well. The more natural light, the better.
New pics up using a tri-pod.
http://www.mrcellphoneunlocker.com/vibrant_macro
let me know
Hard to tell on there... not even close to macro though. You'll need to get a macro lens to get real close.
Here's true 1:1 ratio macro of the sim card slot along with a 100% crop from the same photo
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4080/4896772122_450859da8d_o.jpg
100% crop
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4099/4896176925_ee3f0d09f9_o.jpg
I took the screws out of the plastic cover and was going to take some close up shots for you, but when I did it didn't seem to come loose on it's own. I assume that I'd need to pry it apart which I wasn't going to do since it's not bricked, lol....
Mine is just a simple 12M cam. Nothing special. Its not a SLR. But if you have a vibrant open. please take using a prof cam
How did you get the black plastic cover off? Are there some tabs or anything I need to push in, will it go back on nice after I take it off? I'd glady take real closup shots of all the components if it's easy to get that off.. I took out all of the screws thinking it would just come loose, but it didn't. I don't want to jack it up, I'm not the most graceful when it comes to working with small breakable parts. Would hate to jack up my new phone, haha.
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How did you get the black plastic cover off? Are there some tabs or anything I need to push in, will it go back on nice after I take it off? I'd glady take real closup shots of all the components if it's easy to get that off.. I took out all of the screws thinking it would just come loose, but it didn't. I don't want to jack it up, I'm not the most graceful when it comes to working with small breakable parts. Would hate to jack up my new phone, haha.
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Well this phone was taken apart already. and its a total brick.
He told me he had to remove the silver plastic.
The rest I just removed the screws and the connectors. Very simple.
What you have uploaded is maybe a 1mp image. When pulling images off the camera dont allow any resizing, and when uploading to the webpage dont allow any resizing. We need that 10mb+ file to view things properly. If your using your vibrant to take a picture of this vibrant, dont waste your time.
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What you have uploaded is maybe a 1mp image. When pulling images off the camera dont allow any resizing, and when uploading to the webpage dont allow any resizing. We need that 10mb+ file to view things properly. If your using your vibrant to take a picture of this vibrant, dont waste your time.
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Yes, You are right. the app is making them smaller. Ill upload over night. so they are bigger.
Thanks for the idea. I forgot about that
Uploading now.
Huge raw images: http://www.mrcellphoneunlocker.com/vibrant_macro/Raw/
I can't wait to see this development blossom...
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i wonder if the FF camera from the SGS is a combined vga FFC / 5mp main camera? you can see the hole in the chassis clearly in your pictures and its RIGHT behind the main 5mp camera.
it'd be interesting if you could obtain the FFC or the dual lens (whatever, forgive my lack of knowledge on the proper terminology) unit from the SGS and put it in a vibrant.
probably more trouble than its worth, but maybe not?
MOD, Why were these two threads moved? These are DEV threads. not Gerneal threads. Please move them back.
Thanks!
Hi, I don't know how various settings affect the results. However, I wish to be able to take excellent photos and videos under different conditions. Are there any good apps that take better photos and videos than the stock Camera App? I am using GB. Thanks
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Or 1up
Might be dependant on hardware cause of varying quality pics
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what is wrong with pictures taken by the stock camera app? can you provide some example of a 'bad picture'?.
if you want an interface that is more DSLR like try https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.camera.lite
here are some of my pics, i dont feel that they are of bad quality for a 'phone camera'.
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120506_164915.jpg
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120525_151334.jpg
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120506_191654.jpg
I am happy with the stock camera.. Many features too
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Perhaps it is better to talk about this via samples.
Any suggestion on better camera settings is appreciated.
I guess I may need an app that stores a set of preset settings
for taking photos/videos under different environments. Thanks.
In photo 1, I do not know why the ceiling lights are like that.
I changed various settings but there was no improvement.
In some cases, the overall color of the room changed.
In photo 2, the room appeared to be dark but it was not.
I changed the flash to auto, on along with changing other
settings. The room still appeared to be dark.
In photo 3, again, that place was not dark. Setting the flash
to auto or on did not help.
In photo 4, everything including the room appears to be somewhat yellowish.
In reality, the wall is white and the pillows are gray.
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what is wrong with pictures taken by the stock camera app? can you provide some example of a 'bad picture'?.
if you want an interface that is more DSLR like try https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.camera.lite
here are some of my pics, i dont fell that the are of bad quality for a 'phone camera'.
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120506_164915.jpg
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120525_151334.jpg
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120506_191654.jpg
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Thanks for the suggestion but I am not a professional. I don't know how various settings affect the results. By the time I have tested out various settings, things that I want to capture will have been gone.
ah now things are getting clearer . your pictures looks a little bit like something is wrong with the 'white balance' of your camera. so you can try different settings for the white balance, the default should be automatic (AWB). I'm not an photoexpert too, but maybe some one else can guide you further with this.
Thanks for pointing this out. I also tried white balance but it did not help. Perhaps I did not do it properly. Hoping somebody could provide some tips. Are the strong glares from the ceiling lights in photo 1 also caused by the white balance?
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In photo 1, I do not know why the ceiling lights are like that.
I changed various settings but there was no improvement.
In some cases, the overall color of the room changed.
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This effect on the ceiling lights is due to a hardware fault, there are no settings within the phone that can correct this. You can try, like me, and use photoshop. For me, its no problem because I have used photoshop for many years, but others are not so fortunate. This fault is well documented. Samsung know about it, yet have done nothing to correct it. The only way is to send the unit back to the retailer for a new unit. I tried three or four brand new units and they were all the same.
In general. The camera has limitations because of its size and proximity to other circuitry that may introduce noise etc. Its 8megapix with a tiny lens, so as is, I feel it does a pretty good job (apart from that pink dot that is). To get better pictures, consider post processing with photoshop. If that's not an option, and quite frankly I would not recommend purchasing it just for pics from any camphone, try the GIMP, its free and does an awful lot to enhance your pics. You can find the GIMP here www.gimp.org it will run on linux, windows and the Mac
Hope that helps
So, getting something like Camera ZOOM FX won't help.
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So, getting something like Camera ZOOM FX won't help.
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Nope. sorry about that.
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This effect on the ceiling lights is due to a hardware fault, there are no settings within the phone that can correct this.
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Is there a name for this hardware fault? Does the S3 has this problem as well?
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Is there a name for this hardware fault? Does the S3 has this problem as well?
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Good question. I know the S2 does, and we all know about the Galaxy Note. I can see evidence of the problem on a slashgear.com presentation, and its that presentation that stopped me from going over to the S3. However, there are plenty of youtube tests where it seems pretty good. The S3 has only just been released, so it might be a while more before any issues become apparent. I think its one where you try before you buy. Personally, I'm not touching either the S3 or the 'Note until I have proof that the issue has been resolved.
Edit. The fault is commonly known as "the pink dot"
In photo 1 was the lens clean? Might sound obvious but even the slightest bit of grease or diet can affect how sources of light spear in photos. Typically in any photo I take where I light bulb or something similar is in the picture if the lens was not completely clean I got a similar effect as in photo 1
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In photo 1 was the lens clean? Might sound obvious but even the slightest bit of grease or diet can affect how sources of light spear in photos. Typically in any photo I take where I light bulb or something similar is in the picture if the lens was not completely clean I got a similar effect as in photo 1
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Well, there must be a lot of pink dirt around. My crappy clam phone must have pink dirt repellent, because no matter how greasy the lens gets, pics from it don't have a pink dot. Neither does my DSLR when the uv filter gets filthy, or my specs come to that. Sorry, but the dirt bit on this issue is a red herring. The camera has a defect.
I use UCam. A lot of "pro" settings and also some cool. And... you can disable shutter sound.
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i think you should send the device to service/repair, because i think this is an hardware issue. i saw a lot of pictures taken by the note (not only my own device) and they are al just fine with the standard settings.
I just noticed that there is a protective film covering the back camera. Probably Samsung put it there to protect the lens. Do you think this is the cause to all of my problems? Am I supposed to remove it? For the first few days after purchase (3 weeks ago), the Note took excellent photos. As for last week and the week before that, it depends. The thin protective film has been there right from the beginning. Let's say the protective film covering the lens caused the pink dot, how do you explain why the cafe in photos 2 and 3 appeared to be dark whereas in reality, it was not. Also, photo 4 looks yellowish overall.
Hi,
Protective film would most likely create the effect on pic one. (which would be visible when a direct light source or reflection is in the frame.)
Pic two - could be a metering issue. Try changing the (cog wheel =>) metering setting and / or exposure level.
Yellowish photo is the result of incorrect "white balance". Change the white balance setting to incandescent.
I'm using both the stock ICS camera and camera zoom fx. On my previous phone the fx produced much better photos than the stock one. On my G - Note I don't see much difference.
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I just noticed that there is a protective film covering the back camera. Probably Samsung put it there to protect the lens.
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Yes you are supposed to remove it. It does say so in the instructions that came with your phone. Check the camera after you have done this.
I mean it in a literal sense.
If you look at the image below, youll be able to see that its a bit blurry,
I've drawn 2 black lines in the image, notice that the top and the bottom is blurry and the center is focused.
It doesnt occur alot, but it does happen and sometimes even in videos.
Any help as to why? Perhaps 4.2.2 might fix this?
I think the DOF is so narrow because the lens has a wide aperture of F2.0 which helps in low light.
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I think the DOF is so narrow because the lens has a wide aperture of F2.0 which helps in low light.
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Can you explain what DOF is?
Is there anyway I could fix it? You think anyone else has this problem?
"depth of field (DOF) is the distance between the nearest and farthest objects in a scene that appear acceptably sharp in an image." - (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_of_field)
And I don't think it's a problem. It's just how the lens is made with a large aperture to allow more light in to the image sensor.
You could try to compensate this a bit by increasing the sharpness from the camera menu.
I'd be more concerned with the poor dynamic range shown in the top of the pic. ;O)
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That`s totally normal for the one, it only exposes the focus point, instead of the whole image, could htc not have given us a choice
John.
americasteam said:
I'd be more concerned with the poor dynamic range shown in the top of the pic. ;O)
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
That`s totally normal for the one, it only exposes the focus point, instead of the whole image, could htc not have given us a choice
John.
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Well that sucks. One of the reasons I bought this phone was for the camera.
Do you know anyway I could fix this? or atleast minimize it?
The problem is when the image contains both dark and bright areas, if you focus on the bright, the dark areas will be underexposed and if you focus on the dark the bright areas will be overexposed, you need to find an area to focus on that will give you an average exposure for the entire image.
I have the same problem, but some photo`s are amazing and some are utter crap.
Try using hdr mode, it takes multiple images at different exposure levels and then integrates them into one photo, but you need to keep the phone very steady, hopefully HTC will fix this problem.
John.
uzman1243 said:
Well that sucks. One of the reasons I bought this phone was for the camera.
Do you know anyway I could fix this? or atleast minimize it?
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Mine does this as well. Easiest fix I've come across is just tapping on the screen in the area you want focused...it seems to hold focus better after the first time and the photos look a lot better.
Problem is, I generally forget about this until after the first picture is taken without it. So it's a process for sure.
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Has anybody tried some other camera apps from the play store, maybe we can find one that exposes correctly, i wish the one had my nikon`s matrix metering
John.
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I bought this Camera Zoom FX app for £0.50p on sale that i never used, i think it`s about time i tried it.
John.
Mine is the same way. Wasn't bashing the camera was just giving my first impression of the pic posted. I think the camera is excellent for a phone. Small sensor and tiny optics will only go so far. This device is fantastic as an overall package.
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The sensor is great for a phone camera, but the software that does the exposure is very very poor or am i missing something???
John.
You rack focus
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Why are all you guys saying this is normal? Either you have defective phones or you don't know how to take pictures! ... The only time my One does this is when I use touch to focus on Macro mode. I have taken hundreds of pictures and no pictures look like yours unless I wanted them to.
Agreed. The picture in the OP looks like an issue with OIS, not depth of field.
If it was a one time thing then this thread doesn't need to exist. If it happens a lot the phone needs to be replaced.
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Agreed. The picture in the OP looks like an issue with OIS, not depth of field.
If it was a one time thing then this thread doesn't need to exist. If it happens a lot the phone needs to be replaced.
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Well its not a repetitive condition but occurs once in a while. Even in videos.
Try camera fv-5 from playstore. DSLR style camera app with multiple metering modes.
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Why are all you guys saying this is normal? Either you have defective phones or you don't know how to take pictures! ... The only time my One does this is when I use touch to focus on Macro mode. I have taken hundreds of pictures and no pictures look like yours unless I wanted them to.
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I do think it's a flaw in the camera software that exposure and focus can't be decoupled. I LOVE the shallow depth of field but can't use it property because touching-to-focus blows out highlights.
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I mean it in a literal sense.
If you look at the image below, youll be able to see that its a bit blurry,
I've drawn 2 black lines in the image, notice that the top and the bottom is blurry and the center is focused.
It doesnt occur alot, but it does happen and sometimes even in videos.
Any help as to why? Perhaps 4.2.2 might fix this?
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Most of these comments come from people who have no idea what they're talking about.
Your phone is perfect. Nothing wrong with it. All you did was tap to focus on the middle of the picture.
This did 2 things.
1. It will FOCUS on the center of the pic. Other areas will be blurred. Hence the term, focus. That's how cameras work.
2. The exposure was adjusted to where you focused it to. What does that mean?
If you focused on a light area the camera will adjust the exposure to compensate. What that means is if it's light, the camera will darken the overall image. Lights become darker, farms become darker.
If the photo is focused on a dark area, the camera will adjust the photo by making the dark area brighter and the bright areas, as a result, brighter. Which is why you have super white skies.
To fix it, go to the camera settings and I think select touch to capture. But to say fix means it's a problem.
It's not.
For landscapes, use landscape mode which will focus on the entire image and bot blur. Also you can tap on the area where you want adjusted, ie brighter or darker. Blur again is only cause you focused. Don't focus on landscapes.
Photographer here. Focus on this comment and not anyone who says your phone is messed up. This is why.
Take a look at my two attached photos. One I clicked on the sky and the other I clicked on the grass. Light then dark. Can you figure out which was which and see what happened to the photo?
Note that it was overcast and cloudy. There were NO BLUE SKIES. it was grey. So the sky wasnt killed by the camera
Btw don't always use Hdr. Don't. Its not a saving grace every time. If you shoot in the sun you're shooting in the sun. Photography rule #1: DON'T.
ALWAYS USE THE SCENES WHEN YOU CAN. WHICH IS WHY THEYTE THERE AND EXIST. SLRS HAVE THEM TOO FKR A REASON!
As for the lines, panorama? Did you move too fast? That's what happens when you do - camera can't stitch properly
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Most of these comments come from people who have no idea what they're talking about.
Your phone is perfect. Nothing wrong with it. All you did was tap to focus on the middle of the picture.
This did 2 things.
1. It will FOCUS on the center of the pic. Other areas will be blurred. Hence the term, focus. That's how cameras work.
2. The exposure was adjusted to where you focused it to. What does that mean?
If you focused on a light area the camera will adjust the exposure to compensate. What that means is if it's light, the camera will darken the overall image. Lights become darker, farms become darker.
If the photo is focused on a dark area, the camera will adjust the photo by making the dark area brighter and the bright areas, as a result, brighter. Which is why you have super white skies.
To fix it, go to the camera settings and I think select touch to capture. But to say fix means it's a problem.
It's not.
For landscapes, use landscape mode which will focus on the entire image and bot blur. Also you can tap on the area where you want adjusted, ie brighter or darker. Blur again is only cause you focused. Don't focus on landscapes.
Photographer here. Focus on this comment and not anyone who says your phone is messed up. This is why.
Take a look at my two attached photos. One I clicked on the sky and the other I clicked on the grass. Light then dark. Can you figure out which was which and see what happened to the photo?
Note that it was overcast and cloudy. There were NO BLUE SKIES. it was grey. So the sky wasnt killed by the camera
Btw don't always use Hdr. Don't. Its not a saving grace every time. If you shoot in the sun you're shooting in the sun. Photography rule #1: DON'T.
ALWAYS USE THE SCENES WHEN YOU CAN. WHICH IS WHY THEYTE THERE AND EXIST. SLRS HAVE THEM TOO FKR A REASON!
As for the lines, panorama? Did you move too fast? That's what happens when you do - camera can't stitch properly
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The black lines on the image, I DREW to show where it gets blurred (not panaroma).
You're right, but when I focus on the center, all objects in the background should get blurred right? I mean thats how the focus works. You focus on a particular subject (lets assume in the foreground) the objects in background gets blurred.
If you see the image I uploaded (in the top line) the upper part of the tree is blurred and the lower part is focused.
It doesn't work like that right?
Hi everybody,
I've been using my Note 4 for a week. It's a great phone, great display, great performance and what I was convinced would be a great camera.
Before that I used a S3 (International version I9300) for two years and a S5 (International version G900F) for six months and nothing negative to say about them. They both gave great, clear, beautiful, sharp pictures, especially for a phone (I couldn't imagine it was possible before). I think it's important to say that so I can justify myself and show I'm not making up things...
I started to have doubts after a couple a days concerning the Note 4 camera. I found the pictures not sharp, especially in edges (kind of tilt-shift effect).
And then, yesterday, several XDA topics confirmed my concerns ...
So... To sum up :
Far pictures have blurry edges (I know lenses edges can be blurry, but in this case, when I mean blurry, I mean sometimes 1 third of the pictures... Close pictures and close-ups are great.
When taking pictures in landscape mode, focusing in the bottom third of the screen is just not possible, I can't see the focusing screen in this zone, as it did on the S3 or S5.
Locking focus has never been and is never possible (when trying to focus, I can see the focusing circle but I can't see or hear any green circle or sound confirmation (as it did on the S3 or S5, you can see my youtube video).
To make everything clear again, I (still) own a S3 and S5 with no camera problem, with a normal behaviour and we have two Note 4 at home with the exact same problems.
I have a master in digital photography and, being less picture enthusiastic and having not enough time, I replaced my equipment by these devices, and I was totally ok with that. (= I know I'm not making up things)
To illustrate what I'm saying (I know some of these pictures were made in a foggy weather but depth of field is clearly not "logical" here...).
https://www.dropbox.com/s/usfdln0o0odwdf7/20141214_115344.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/thxhsawjxjbu05t/20141214_121610.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dyxavgcj6qeyf28/20141207_101614.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y5Axxp_UMY&feature=youtu.be
I assume the problem here may be part software and part hardware (but again, two Note 4 with same problems ?).
Could a Samsung rep take this problem serioulsy and take it into account for a next update ? (except if it's a hardware problem )
Thanks a lot for your attention !
Chris.
I'm pretty sure your device is faulty. The blur in your images is not normal, I guess the lens is not mounted correctly. This may also be the reason for your focusing problems.
Have a look at the photo thread, you'll see plenty of images without blur.
I agree with you but what about the focusing problem on just a part of the screen ? (see the youtube video).
And the fact we have two note 4 with the same problems :/.
adinava said:
I agree with you but what about the focusing problem on just a part of the screen ? (see the youtube video).
And the fact we have two note 4 with the same problems :/.
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im having the same problem with just focus on one part of the screen. other apps focuses fine though so its a software problem.
I use the google camera app alot cos stock samsung app seem to forget to use the flash even in dark rooms.
adinava said:
I agree with you but what about the focusing problem on just a part of the screen ? (see the youtube video).
And the fact we have two note 4 with the same problems :/.
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I experienced that focusing problem. Can't remember if STOCK straight out of the box did it, but I know when I used FireKat ROM it did it. I flashed the Camera Mod and it did it. But, now I'm using DynamicKat and it's fine. The far left edge of the camera picks up my touch and focuses.
Also for the Blurr thing. Is your Camera MODE in Selective Focus?
SiNJiN76 said:
I experienced that focusing problem. Can't remember if STOCK straight out of the box did it, but I know when I used FireKat ROM it did it. I flashed the Camera Mod and it did it. But, now I'm using DynamicKat and it's fine. The far left edge of the camera picks up my touch and focuses.
Also for the Blurr thing. Is your Camera MODE in Selective Focus?
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I still have stock ROM.
Are you also experiencing different focus zones in your pictures?
I'm really starting to think my camera is defective .
No. But did you make sure that you are not using Selective Focus Mode?
Yes, I did. All my tests and conclusions were based on my S3 and S5 experience
Well I read your post thoroughly and felt that you have written a reflection of what is going through my mind.
Exact same issues !! If you read my twitter feed ~ 10 days ago you will be happy to know that you are not alone.
I noticed the problem in the first 2 days of purchase and took it to a Samsung store few days later. They were very defensive initially but after 10 mins of technical conversation with a dude who did not know much about the difference between camera resolution and screen resolution I could show them the blur. Both on my phone and on a PC they had in store.
We did some like for like comparison with another note 4. Problem was evident.
They advice me to go back to service provider (Virgin Australia) and request a replacement under early life hardware failure.
I am now playing the to and fro game with my service provider who are throwing in all sort of hurdles. Hope I get a replacement !!!
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Just to show that I was really at the store
http://s27.postimg.org/ply8u686r/20141207_150515.jpg
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I tried with s5 camera on sport mode and the same result the photo is still blur. .i beleve this is the software problem not the camera. .
Typical problem of the Note 4's software.
I also opened a thread for discussing the matter - but people just did not understand the problem.
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2948640
Just got nonsense replies.
Seems to be close to impossible making people understand the obvious... :/
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adinava said:
To illustrate what I'm saying (I know some of these pictures were made in a foggy weather but depth of field is clearly not "logical" here...)
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Possible to post pictures a bit larger than those "thumbnails" ?
Chefproll said:
Possible to post pictures a bit larger than those "thumbnails" ?
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Yes Chefproll, here they are . Plus two new ones taken today.
See, when I focus on the left side of the screen, almost the rest of the picture is blurry and when I focus on the right side, the left part of the picture is blurry...
I assume the lens is off-center mounted :/...
Same case ...... see the photos ...
ebusuhejbi said:
I tried with s5 camera on sport mode and the same result the photo is still blur. .i beleve this is the software problem not the camera. .
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SO I found out from android central forums that if you shake it for like 30 seconds it works so obviously its a problem. I tried google camera and camera 360 and neither worked but my front camera is amazing. I'd suggest a swap for a brand new unit.
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Same case ...... see the photos ...
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They are Extremely blurry, Did you by chance forget to take the protective plastic off?
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They are Extremely blurry, Did you by chance forget to take the protective plastic off?
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I was thinking the same too.
I own N910C and i don't have this issue at all. I know there are two types of camera lens in the note 4 one is Sony and the other one is Samsung. Maybe you have one of the others ?!
Glad i found this thread.. I have the exact same issue with my note 4. You need to be knowledgeable with photography in order to articulate the issue and identify the problem.. Most posts keeps talking about the protective film.... Arghh
However the issue is not constantly there for me... It's almost as if the lens module is mounted loosely, and it can go out of alignment relative to the sensor, creating a tilt shift effect.
Sometimes it seems if i shake the phone, or tap a few times on the camera lens, the issue goes away...
Very frustrating. Did you ever resolve it?
Thought it might be the ois acting up... However i couldn't disable it for stills...
I have the auto focus issue as well. shaking the device or tapping the bottom a few (hard) times makes the cam focus properly. Problem is there all the time, although after focussing properly gone, then reappearing after camera app close..
I've also noticed this issue. I have more problems focusing on the left (Samsung logo) side of my camera sensor. If I flip the phone over, the same side of the device produces blurry details while the other captures it crisp.
http://imgur.com/kEnHKg2
http://imgur.com/dF9jHBD
Notice how the bag is clear in one, blurry in the other. The Samsung logo side of my device seems to always be blurry in photos of objects about a meter or more away. I have been unable to focus altogether on distant objects where the entire image is blurry.
I've had the same problem and I asked for a replacement. It's a defective unit, now my phone's camera works great.
Just got my Z5 and loving it ... except the unit I got DOES seem to suffer from some left-hand blur Kind of sad since when I was testing the unit in the store there didn't seem to be any problem (probably I was looking at around the middle part or probably because I was only using the brochures there as my test shots). Granted, I did come across and pass 2 units that had worse and more obvious blurs than the one I have.
Here are links to the image (right-side up first, then upside-down): http://imgur.com/a/gc1qI
The blur is seen near the top-left corner and also a little bit on the bottom-left corner. This can be seen by observing the leaves and grass. Seeing as the blur is only on the left-hand side, I'm guessing it isn't just due to the wide lens?
I'm a bit troubled if I should have it replaced or not since as mentioned earlier, I came across units with worse blur. Should I have it replaced? Is there really a Z5 / Z5c there with 'perfect' lens with no blur?
Thanks everyone!
They look normal to me, TBH. I could show you pictures from couple other phones with this kind of 'slight' blur. We're talking landscape shots here - not macros. The third one does have some blurs but I could see blur across the whole edge & few other spots (proly due to moving objects and/or shaky hands). But it's your call anyway
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They look normal to me, TBH. I could show you pictures from couple other phones with this kind of 'slight' blur. We're talking landscape shots here - not macros. The third one does have some blurs but I could see blur across the whole edge & few other spots (proly due to moving objects and/or shaky hands). But it's your call anyway
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Oh really? Probably I'm just nitpicking but it doesn't hurt to be safe. To be honest, my Z1 has a much more pronounced blur than this which I didn't really notice until now when I tried comparing it and looking at the photos carefully.
Thanks for checking it out!
Bro it is software default not hardware because if you turn the phone 180 degre you have the same point blurred . It is focus fault waiting to new update in the coming days
karrouma said:
Bro it is software default not hardware because if you turn the phone 180 degre you have the same point blurred . It is focus fault waiting to new update in the coming days
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Anxiously waiting for that
karrouma said:
Bro it is software default not hardware because if you turn the phone 180 degre you have the same point blurred . It is focus fault waiting to new update in the coming days
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Sure it's a software problem?
Not a misalignment lenses?
It doesn't look it has blurring -- the slight distortion on the corners tend to be an effect of wide angle lenses
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It doesn't look it has blurring -- the slight distortion on the corners tend to be an effect of wide angle lenses
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I will buy the Z5, but I'm afraid that blur problem they are talking about! I do not know what to do! Some say it is software, others say it's normal ...
To me, your pics look perfect I have more blur on my Z3 & i never notced before i started reading it in Z5 thread some days ago
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I will buy the Z5, but I'm afraid that blur problem they are talking about! I do not know what to do! Some say it is software, others say it's normal ...
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Some are very obviously not normal -- the OP in this thread, his camera is fine. I have no idea if it's software or not.
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To me, your pics look perfect I have more blur on my Z3 & i never notced before i started reading it in Z5 thread some days ago
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Thanks I can relate because I also had a Z1 that had blurring and didn't realize it till I was comparing its shots with the Z5. I was surprised since I was using it and the camera quite happily for almost 2 years and thought it was normal.
Lucky me I guess for getting a non-defective camera on my Z5
Some are very obviously not normal -- the OP in this thread, his camera is fine. I have no idea if it's software or not.
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You are right, I saw some pictures that very obviously had the problem like this (upside-down version)
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You are right, I saw some pictures that very obviously had the problem like this (upside-down version)
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That camera module is damaged. You can see the black lines across the image. If not by factory fault then that can happen if you expose the camera to direct sunlight for to long or IR light like the strobe/laser "cannons" in some concerts and clubs. If that hits the sensor directly then bye bye..!
I took a picture hoping to check if I have the camera blur. Can someone help out? The blur on the plant on the right side is caused by taking the pic close to it. I tried to take it at 180 degrees (2nd pic) but I didn't manage to take a pic close to the other one.
http://imgur.com/a/OuqHZ