Root withou lose OTA - Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all note 4 snapdragon users, like to ask if its possible to make root without lose OTA updates.
Thanks in advanced
Cheers

mrcarlos said:
Hi all note 4 snapdragon users, like to ask if its possible to make root without lose OTA updates.
Thanks in advanced
Cheers
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Wrong section...

moustafasadek11 said:
Wrong section...
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NO once you root the phone it is altered from stock and therefore not standard as per the Samsung checks so OTA is no longer available

cc154 said:
NO once you root the phone it is altered from stock and therefore not standard as per the Samsung checks so OTA is no longer available
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Derr... I know that but I told him he had posted in the wrong section :silly:.

install xposed then download and enable wanam mod
in wanam security hacks change device status from custom to official
check if it works

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How to OTA check when rooted using Wanam Xposed

I might be stating the obvious but in case someone rooted doesn't know:
When you are rooted you can't check for updates OTA. There was a lot of chat about whether you had to defrost various apps etc. to fool the update feature. Using Wanam Exposed, under "Security Hacks" you get the option to change (fake) "System status" from "Custom" setting to "Official", and thus allowing you to check using Samsungs update feature. Much easier than having to check Sammobile every day. Hope it helps someone.
Correct... but the OTA removed root at my P605 and reapplying the latest MJ9 with URDLV tipped the Knox state of my device...
delanvital said:
I might be stating the obvious but in case someone rooted doesn't know:
When you are rooted you can't check for updates OTA. There was a lot of chat about whether you had to defrost various apps etc. to fool the update feature. Using Wanam Exposed, under "Security Hacks" you get the option to change (fake) "System status" from "Custom" setting to "Official", and thus allowing you to check using Samsungs update feature. Much easier than having to check Sammobile every day. Hope it helps someone.
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Thanks that's useful.
akxak said:
Correct... but the OTA removed root at my P605 and reapplying the latest MJ9 with URDLV tipped the Knox state of my device...
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That is interesting. I installed URDLV'ed MJ9 via ODIN, lost root, reapplied root using script and didn't trip the efuse.
delanvital said:
That is interesting. I installed URDLV'ed MJ9 via ODIN, lost root, reapplied root using script and didn't trip the efuse.
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Does anyone know if this also allows you to watch/download movies from the Samsung Hub and make them watchable once you've rooted?
delanvital said:
I might be stating the obvious but in case someone rooted doesn't know:
When you are rooted you can't check for updates OTA. There was a lot of chat about whether you had to defrost various apps etc. to fool the update feature. Using Wanam Exposed, under "Security Hacks" you get the option to change (fake) "System status" from "Custom" setting to "Official", and thus allowing you to check using Samsungs update feature. Much easier than having to check Sammobile every day. Hope it helps someone.
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I try that, but does not work ! " I'm on note ii "
SadHeroXIII said:
I try that, but does not work ! " I'm on note ii "
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I don't know of this works on the note II.
Be sure that you haven't frozen/removed the update service?
delanvital said:
I don't know of this works on the note II.
Be sure that you haven't frozen/removed the update service?
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I just removed knox files, nothing else !
SadHeroXIII said:
I just removed knox files, nothing else !
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What happens when you try to update? Does the service fail to start (i.e. no response at all) or do you get the "modified" message?
rockjock2020 said:
Does anyone know if this also allows you to watch/download movies from the Samsung Hub and make them watchable once you've rooted?
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I've downloaded videos from the Hub after rooting and installing custom firmware. Don't think Samsung cares as long as you are spending money.
You can find the movie files (pyv files) in a hidden file, .samsungvideohub, on sd card. Opening it and going to the .pyv file will play on all video players I've tried on my device but not so sure on PC.
delanvital said:
What happens when you try to update? Does the service fail to start (i.e. no response at all) or do you get the "modified" message?
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when click on check 4 update, it start searching but then show me modified message !
SadHeroXIII said:
when click on check 4 update, it start searching but then show me modified message !
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Sorry, then I am out of ideas. You could write to the author of the xposed mod and ask if it should work with the note II?
delanvital said:
I don't know of this works on the note II.
Be sure that you haven't frozen/removed the update service?
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It doesn't work on the Note 2.
All I get is a dialogue box popping up that says that I've modified the system in an unauthorized way and to check by using Kies, yada yada yada.
---------- Post added at 01:03 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:59 AM ----------
I also have every reference to Knox removed from device and still get the Knox security update notices on my Note 2 on stock rooted 4.4.2.
ultramag69 said:
I've downloaded videos from the Hub after rooting and installing custom firmware. Don't think Samsung cares as long as you are spending money.
You can find the movie files (pyv files) in a hidden file, .samsungvideohub, on sd card. Opening it and going to the .pyv file will play on all video players I've tried on my device but not so sure on PC.
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I had some issues with some downloaded videos from the Hub. I tried deleting them and redownloading them and nothing seemed to work. Strangely I was able to play them fine on my s3 which was also rooted. Haven't tried since upgrading to a custom rom and kernel though. I was wondering if I was the only one with this issue. I had called Samsung about it and they told me to hang up and email support instead.
AmonX said:
I had some issues with some downloaded videos from the Hub. I tried deleting them and redownloading them and nothing seemed to work. Strangely I was able to play them fine on my s3 which was also rooted. Haven't tried since upgrading to a custom rom and kernel though. I was wondering if I was the only one with this issue. I had called Samsung about it and they told me to hang up and email support instead.
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Nice customer service...
Thanks lots!!
Extremely useful!! I'm using RomSwitcher on my i9500 with Kitkat 4.4.2 TW as my default and Lollipop 5.0.2 by TeamCanjica as my secondary and I did not want to go through the trouble of flashing all over again via Odin to unroot just to install Lollipop when its officially released by Samsung for the S4 i9500 in my region. Then re-install RomSwitcher and secondary.... Then I stumbled on this, works like a charm. Now I can check for OTA updates without any modified messages. Thanks mate!

[Q] Any downside to rooting other than warranty/knox?

I am considering rooting my Canadian (Rogers) Note 3 (SM-N900W8) in order to defeat the ludicrous SD-Card crippling brought by the latest Kitkat 4.4.2 software update. I'm aware that by doing so the Knox 0x1 counter will void the warranty. What I'd like to know is whether there are any additional negative results besides this well-known one.
For example I've seen inconsistent reports of the Screen Mirroring function being disabled as soon as the device is rooted. Some claim it is more related to the presence of a custom kernel, recovery or ROM, while others insist that merely rooting with everything stock was enough to disable screen mirroring.
If I do nothing more than use CF-Autoroot as described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466423
...no custom recovery, kernel or ROM, do I risk any undesirable repercussions other than the warranty and Knox issue? Will screen mirroring or any other functions work worse than they did before?
Thanks for any help...
Rooting won't break any functionality of the phone except the security it was meant for i.e the secure container ( and of course, depending on who you ask, warranty ). Problems you mentioned are probably related to custom roms themselves.
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hey_joe said:
Rooting won't break any functionality of the phone except the security it was meant for i.e the secure container ( and of course, depending on who you ask, warranty ). Problems you mentioned are probably related to custom roms themselves.
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Thanks for your reply... and will it also not interfere with any potential future over-the-air updates that might come along, be it a 4.4.3 update or a more trivial software patch to fix an issue that gets released? I realize that a major enough OTA update might un-root the phone which is fine.. I just wouldn't want to brick or lose access to updates because of root. Would they continue to be accessible, or would I likely have to first un-root manually to enable them?
Thanks again...
Yes you can not OTA update on the rooted phone.
You can unroot and apply the OTA update.
Or use the fake system status option in the Wanam.
vndnguyen said:
Yes you can not OTA update on the rooted phone.
You can unroot and apply the OTA update.
Or use the fake system status option in the Wanam.
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Thanks... if memory serves (been a while for me since last rooted device) all that is necessary to unroot is to run the administrative option from within the Superuser app itself, to remove the SU binary completely.. correct? And then to re-root just repeat the previous CF-Autoroot steps and regain SU?
paleozord said:
Thanks for your reply... and will it also not interfere with any potential future over-the-air updates that might come along, be it a 4.4.3 update or a more trivial software patch to fix an issue that gets released? I realize that a major enough OTA update might un-root the phone which is fine.. I just wouldn't want to brick or lose access to updates because of root. Would they continue to be accessible, or would I likely have to first un-root manually to enable them?
Thanks again...
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You don`t need OTA`s mate, just download the new updated rom from Sammobile and flash it with Mobile Odin Pro and you`ll even keep root
gee2012 said:
You don`t need OTA`s mate, just download the new updated rom from Sammobile and flash it with Mobile Odin Pro and you`ll even keep root
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So all ROM and software updates are always made available directly from Samsung as flashable downloads, on the same day they're released to devices over-the-air? As a general rule?
paleozord said:
So all ROM and software updates are always made available directly from Samsung as flashable downloads, on the same day they're released to devices over-the-air? As a general rule?
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Within a day usualy you can download the full rom from here www.sammobile.com/firmwares/2/ and flash it with Odin or better yet Mobile Odin.
paleozord said:
So all ROM and software updates are always made available directly from Samsung as flashable downloads, on the same day they're released to devices over-the-air? As a general rule?
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Or you can open the app Phone INFO ★Samsung★, select menu 'Firmware Browser...' to see a list of available stock firmwares for your phone.
Tap to view firmware's details, there is also a download link. You can download it and then flash by Kies or Odin.
(screenshots are attached)

[OTA Captured] German Retail 4.4.4

OTA for German Retail version from 4.4.2 to 4.4.4 started to roll out finally.
Download:
http://d-h.st/gUF
The name of the file is Blur_Version.176.44.1.falcon_umts.Retail.en.DE.zip - as always - it is named after the firmware being updated not after the target one.
Were you on stock recovery but rooted when you got this OTA?
I got this Update today too.
BaghiXDA said:
Were you on stock recovery but rooted when you got this OTA?
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You can always GET an OTA but you won´t be able to install it in some scenarios.
Your system partition has to be mostly untouched, but root and Xposed Framework won´t cause any problem. You can use stock or Philz Recovery.
Also got the update but the installation is failing due to unexpected changes to build.prop. I have removed xposed and anything else I can think of that may have changed the system partition but still no go.
Any ideas? Maybe someone could post their build.prop?
I'm also getting the update in The Netherlands. Bought my phone online amazon.de :laugh:
patient81 said:
Also got the update but the installation is failing due to unexpected changes to build.prop. I have removed xposed and anything else I can think of that may have changed the system partition but still no go.
Any ideas? Maybe someone could post their build.prop?
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Here you go. Obviously remove the .txt extension.
Bec de Xorbin said:
Here you go. Obviously remove the .txt extension.
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Thank you kindly.
drfr said:
OTA for German Retail version from 4.4.2 to 4.4.4 started to roll out finally.
Currently uploading it ....
Here we go:
http://d-h.st/gUF
The name of the file is Blur_Version.176.44.1.falcon_umts.Retail.en.DE.zip - as always - it is named after the firmware being updated not after the target one.
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Can you go to About Phone > Status and tell me what your first 4 numbers of your Imei is? Thanks!
NextGenGTR said:
Can you go to About Phone > Status and tell me what your first 4 numbers of your Imei is? Thanks!
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Well, I can, but can you tell me why are you asking?
I'm rooted and installed the stock recovery then tried doing the Ota (I'm on stock rom if it matters) and it gives an error, just "error" no more information during the installation process.
Anybody can help?
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bad1080 said:
hi, i have an error with the ota update to 4.4.4 myself, my phone is unlocked and rooted (mostly for xframework, xprivacy and gravity box). now i would like to know if i can use the version you have posted?
do i need to reinstall anything after the update? also i would like to know where that version you posted is coming from (is it clean)?
thanks in advance!
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Yes, you have the right version of firmware for this OTA, don´t know why it´s failing for you, there´s too much variables, it´s hard to tell.
As to where the file I posted comes from - it´s right from my phone. Until today morning I was on French 4.4.4, then I flashed the German 4.4.2 firmware to look if I could catch the OTA and it really came, I pulled it from my /cache and posted here. Check out the MD5 sum: d289331e52d0f79d2bcc4b9b390ff338
It´s the same on my local copy, on the cloud copy I posted and also look here:
http://www.android-hilfe.de/7843052-post301.html
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Well, I can, but can you tell me why are you asking?
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Apparently the update rolls out depending on that 4 numbers, i think it started from something like 3550 and mine is 3593 so i wanted to see if it is close to my number if you get what i mean.
NextGenGTR said:
Apparently the update rolls out depending on that 4 numbers, i think it started from something like 3550 and mine is 3593 so i wanted to see if it is close to my number if you get what i mean.
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I see, so mine is 3549.
I have 3549 ....en.GB ,no update
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drfr said:
I see, so mine is 3549.
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loungedogg said:
I have 3549 ....en.GB ,no update
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I am from the UK too, i still dont have any sign of update for 4.4.2, i hope i'm not waiting for a update that is going to make the phone worse...
NextGenGTR said:
I am from the UK too, i still dont have any sign of update for 4.4.2, i hope i'm not waiting for a update that is going to make the phone worse...
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Why so sceptical? Apart from a different dialer GUI, there´s not much difference you can really feel on 4.4.4, basically there are just some bug fixes.
bad1080 said:
hi, i have an error with the ota update to 4.4.4 myself, my phone is unlocked and rooted (mostly for xframework, xprivacy and gravity box). now i would like to know if i can use the version you have posted?
my phone:
do i need to reinstall anything after the update? also i would like to know where that version you posted is coming from (is it clean)?
thanks in advance!
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Perhaps you need to uninstall and remove the modules and the xposed from the system before updating. Xposed and the modules add / modify system files and other sources in the device. Make sure you unroot as the last step as well. Stock recovery is required to install the OTA successfully
drfr said:
You can always GET an OTA but you won´t be able to install it in some scenarios.
Your system partition has to be mostly untouched, but root and Xposed Framework won´t cause any problem. You can use stock or Philz Recovery.
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I just wanted to know, did you also had stock recovery or custom?

[Q] Cannot install Verizon OTA after towelroot

Hi All,
Please forgive me if this sounds like a noob question...
Here is the situation:
Rooted verizon galaxy s5 with towel root.
Cannot install the new OTA update they just released, the update downloads and fails on the attempt to install. Shows the little green android with red ! in his belly:cyclops:
Please help! You guys are awesome! I really want this update
nickd1976 said:
Hi All,
Please forgive me if this sounds like a noob question...
Here is the situation:
Rooted verizon galaxy s5 with towel root.
Cannot install the new OTA update they just released, the update downloads and fails on the attempt to install. Shows the little green android with red ! in his belly:cyclops:
Please help! You guys are awesome! I really want this update
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First, plug phone into computer, and install updater software from the phone that is on the device in 'Installer Mode'. Take the download on the PC, then follow directions below, and you can still have root after.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/how-to-root-g900vvru1ane9-t2836201
For more information, read through this thread as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/verizon-ota-rolling-t2834027
Thank you so much!!!
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Some reason the upgrade button is greyed out
kprice8 said:
First, plug phone into computer, and install updater software from the phone that is on the device in 'Installer Mode'. Take the download on the PC, then follow directions below, and you can still have root after.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/how-to-root-g900vvru1ane9-t2836201
For more information, read through this thread as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/verizon-ota-rolling-t2834027
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Hi again,
I installed the upgrade assistant in installer mode but for some reason it is not picking up the new NE9 update on my computer. See attached print screen. Very strange.. It sees the update on my phone to download though.:cyclops: Do you know why this is and how I can get it to see the update on the upgrade assistant as you mentioned?
Kind Regards
Can you explain why you want the update so bad? You do realize that rooting and accepting official otas is completely contradictory, correct? OTAs are generally what fix things like what towelroot exploits. If you accept official OTA, you will likely lose root.
But can't I just re root after the ota? I guess the reason I want the Ota because I heard of camera enhancements and stability fixes
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nickd1976 said:
But can't I just re root after the ota? I guess the reason I want the Ota because I heard of camera enhancements and stability fixes
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No. OTA have patches for known security flaws as well. The flaw that towelroot relies on is closed after the new OTA. Meaning, no more root.
edit: in this case I believe folks have figured out a work around for keeping root with the update. In general though, if you value root and what it provides you do not accept official releases.
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No. OTA have patches for known security flaws as well. The flaw that towelroot relies on is closed after the new OTA. Meaning, no more root.
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@ks3rv3rg I believe the links mentioned above provide a workaround for the Root to be kept after updating.
As for the problem nick, I can't help you there. I haven't personally take it as I see taking OTA's is silly with a rooted phone you can modify to be much more. Perhaps someone else who has done it will chime in...
Thank you both for your perspectives.. Plus, I can always just wait for a ROM that currently has the update installed.
ks3rv3rg said:
No. OTA have patches for known security flaws as well. The flaw that towelroot relies on is closed after the new OTA. Meaning, no more root.
edit: in this case I believe folks have figured out a work around for keeping root with the update. In general though, if you value root and what it provides you do not accept official releases.
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@ks3rv3rg I believe the links mentioned above provide a workaround for the Root to be kept after updating.
As for the problem nick, I can't help you there. I haven't personally take it as I see taking OTA's is silly with a rooted phone you can modify to be much more. Perhaps someone else who has done it will chime in...
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Thank you both for educating me on this. Ill try the work around to try to keep the root and update. I just wish I could get the Verizon update assistant to download the NE9. Either way Ill just wait for a ROM with the new OTA.
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Thank you both for educating me on this. Ill try the work around to try to keep the root and update. I just wish I could get the Verizon update assistant to download the NE9. Either way Ill just wait for a ROM with the new OTA.
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I just saw that JasmineROM came out and it's updated to NE9 and all you do is flash the stuff. Check it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/development/rom-jasminerom-v1-0-bases-t2836387
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Thank you both for educating me on this. Ill try the work around to try to keep the root and update. I just wish I could get the Verizon update assistant to download the NE9. Either way Ill just wait for a ROM with the new OTA.
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Good choice. I know I saw someone mention that they were building a safestrap flashable ota rom.
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Good choice. I know I saw someone mention that they were building a safestrap flashable ota rom.
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Me? Directly above you? XD lol
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Good choice. I know I saw someone mention that they were building a safestrap flashable ota rom.
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I think you are referring to my safestrap flashable OTA zip file. I'm going to keep that one in my back pocket for the next OTA since the kernel swap worked.
I'm happy to say I installed this rom and the firmware and it rocks!! Thank you .plus I got my download booster and my overclock settings!!
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I have a similar question but reversed. How do I stop it from updating and it from asking me to update? I have the free version of titanium backup and can't freeze it. Is their another way? I can't turn off SDM that runs the ota upgrade i can only force stop it.
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I have a similar question but reversed. How do I stop it from updating and it from asking me to update? I have the free version of titanium backup and can't freeze it. Is their another way? I can't turn off SDM that runs the ota upgrade i can only force stop it.
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Remove it. Won't hurt anything.
TiBu
Buying the pro version of TiBu was the best money I ever spent!!!!
What is tibu?
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What is tibu?
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Titanium Backup

ZUI how to remove bloatware

Hello,
I am about go get back my phone from the repair and I think I will have ZUI installed as an operating system because they have changed my phone's motherboard. I have a few questions regarding the ZUI. Can the bloatware be removed? If it can only be removed with root, how to root it? Also, an important question, if I root it, will I receive the OTA updates?
Thanks!
MrWhite98 said:
Hello,
I am about go get back my phone from the repair and I think I will have ZUI installed as an operating system because they have changed my phone's motherboard. I have a few questions regarding the ZUI. Can the bloatware be removed? If it can only be removed with root, how to root it? Also, an important question, if I root it, will I receive the OTA updates?
Thanks!
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You need always root to remove system apps. And how to root, mate it's written here in more then one tread like all in one tool etc. In original Android development or general section. Official updates can disable root, when they will write new boot partition.
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You need always root to remove system apps. And how to root, mate it's written here in more then one tread like all in one tool etc. In original Android development or general section. Official updates can disable root, when they will write new boot partition.
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So there is no way to remove bloatware without losing the possibility to receive OTA updates?
MrWhite98 said:
So there is no way to remove bloatware without losing the possibility to receive OTA updates?
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After each ota update, you must remove them again
strongst said:
After each ota update, you must remove them again
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Yeah, that sucks. Is there at least any way to just hide the icons of the bloatware apps?
MrWhite98 said:
Yeah, that sucks. Is there at least any way to just hide the icons of the bloatware apps?
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Since marshmallow you can disable apps. With other launchers you can hide them, in Zui I don't know if the launcher can hide icons
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Since marshmallow you can disable apps. With other launchers you can hide them, in Zui I don't know if the launcher can hide icons
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Thank you!

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