Forget price - Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Forget price and not interested in looks.
What is the best Android Wear device today?
Need Android Wear
Best Battery life (ambient mode always)
Heart rate
I think the Motorola watch is out poor battery life (can not keep it on ambient mode)
The Sony Smartwatch 3 misses on heart rate monitoring (it locks up on me intermittently once every couple weeks to month)
But I can not think of any other watches.
.... holding out for now I guess, hopefully the next generation will be better.

AstroDigital said:
The Sony Smartwatch 3 misses on heart rate monitoring (it locks up on me intermittently once every couple weeks to month)
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I don't think the Sony has a heart rate monitor at all.
Or did you mean your heart locks up on you every couple of weeks? If so, you need a doctor and not a smart watch.

AstroDigital said:
Forget price and not interested in looks.
What is the best Android Wear device today?
Need Android Wear
Best Battery life (ambient mode always)
Heart rate
I think the Motorola watch is out poor battery life (can not keep it on ambient mode)
The Sony Smartwatch 3 misses on heart rate monitoring (it locks up on me intermittently once every couple weeks to month)
But I can not think of any other watches.
.... holding out for now I guess, hopefully the next generation will be better.
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LG G Watch R. Watch battery last me 2 days easily with ambient mode on and has a heart rate sensor. And imo the most normal looking watch design wise.

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[Q] What is acceptable battery life time for a smartwatch?

Hello guys! What is acceptable time for a smartwatch to work on single charge? Please answer!
JoeeeWhite said:
Hello guys! What is acceptable time for a smartwatch to work on single charge? Please answer!
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Whatever is acceptable for you. I don't have to, but I plug mine in once a day when I charge my phone. Others seem to think they should get a week out of each charge.
yeah, if you charge it same time with your phone, it's fine. but i was thinking about it and exactly when the phone is on the charger i want to have the smartwatch on my arm, to get any notifications and updates.
LG Android Wear discharging at same rate as phone
Hi all,
I am using the Note 3 with my LG watch. From 7am to now at 1130am my Note3 is at 74% while the LG is 75%. Both units appear to be discharging at the same rate for me.
I was wondering if this is on par with what others are getting?
Personally I wasn't expecting Android Wear to discharge as fast as this. I was hoping to get at least 2 days before charging, but at this rate I don't think this is possible.
I changed from a Sony Smartwatch2 to this LG. The LG has a much nicer screen, but I was getting a significantly better battery discharge rate on the Sony. In terms of notification experience between the 2 watches I think it has been about the same so far.
What has lured me to the Android Wear is having Google Now and a nicer screen. I am thinking perhaps, this is what is putting addition battery drain on the watch? I really hope future updates will increase battery efficiency on both phone and watch.
Update on battery life
Hey Guys,
My LG appears to have settled down now and appears to sip sparingly at it's power supply. Last night it was at 70% before I charged it for the evening. This evening it was at 65%. I suspect it's busier with notifications during a weekday.
Happy with this for now.
i would say as long as you can do a full 24 hours on a watch, i will be content with it. I have the lg g watch as well as the qualcomm toq(yes i know different os..)and they both last a full day.. my electronics sleep when i sleep. cant ask/need more then that.

360 battery inquiry

I've heard reports of better battery life on the Moto 360 after the recent updates. I have a g watch and have been contemplating returning for a 360. My battery life on my g watch lasts me from 5am when I unplug it until just around 10pm when I go to sleep and it only has about 5 percent left on it.
Question is with the newest update is the battery life on the 360 better than that of the g watch with the ambient sensor off? Not a fan of the flat tire look so I'd have it off but would want it to last me the day.
Thanks in advance for the input.
My G is easily lasting 2 days. I'm at maybe 50% at the end of the day.
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My G is easily lasting 2 days. I'm at maybe 50% at the end of the day.
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Wow 2 days? How you do that? Lol. I'm using facer watch faces and have every notification turned on and the screen is always on.
My brightness is 1 and set to turn off screen. Also using custom ROM that seems to do a very good job with battery
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I've heard reports of better battery life on the Moto 360 after the recent updates. I have a g watch and have been contemplating returning for a 360. My battery life on my g watch lasts me from 5am when I unplug it until just around 10pm when I go to sleep and it only has about 5 percent left on it.
Question is with the newest update is the battery life on the 360 better than that of the g watch with the ambient sensor off? Not a fan of the flat tire look so I'd have it off but would want it to last me the day.
Thanks in advance for the input.
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With ambient off I go from 7 until 10 with 30 to 40% left. With ambient on I'm dying around 630
mine twoo 2 days screen a 5 or 6 with always on and a ferrari face
Moto 360
my Moto 360 last 2 days n even more i think because of not receiving notification thats why.
I get incredible battery life on my G as well. I do charge it every day, but I have never, ever had the watch die on me. Right now the watch has been off the charger for about 4 hours and I am at 88% battery. I have the screen set to 6 (highest setting) and the Screen Always On set to "On".
I too run a custom ROM on the phone and I have to think that it makes a difference in the battery life. Personally I run Gohma 1.2 on my watch (http://rootzwiki.com/topic/207402-rom-gohma-12-10222014-android-wear/). It works great. I would definitely suggest that you try a custom ROM before buying another Wear device, especially when you don't like the other device as much as the G watch.
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my Moto 360 last 2 days n even more i think because of not receiving notification thats why.
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So you wear it as only a watch?
My Moto 360 lasts me all day (sometimes it reaches the 14% mark and it goes into power saving mode), I have the brightness set to auto, ambient on, and getting all my notifications through it. I even read a few emails directly on the watch. The closest it has gotten to dieing on me are on days when I'm up from 7am to 2am the next day (college student).
(this is about the moto 360) After the 5.0.1 update, I turned OFF the tilt to wake option that turns it on when you bring it to your face. It improved my battery amazingly well. I can get it to last the whole day easily now. With a drain of about 2% per hour with minimal use (using it as only a notification receiver). Even on heavier days like today, my phone battery was lower at 9 PM then my moto 360. I figure I can turn it on if I need to do something that requires both my hands. But mostly I have that option off. Now, I just need to root it and turn off the auto HRM and it should last even longer. Generally with my style of use, I can have it last as long as my G lasted.
But honestly, the advantage the moto 360 is comfort, the HRM, and it's arm candy. It's amazingly beautiful. I didn't like how the G looked. It looks nice with a metal band, but the moto looks good with almost any band. Keep in mind, this is the closest tech has come to jewlery and this IS a fashion statement as well. The watch makes me feel like I am tony stark (and that's what its all about, really isn't it?)

Heating Issue On G4 Plus...

I am thinking to buy moto G4 plus...
But what I am concerned about is the heating issue.
I had read some review where some says that during gaming it heats up.
I would like the users to please clarify this.
I just like the device too much.
If there is heating issue then its unusual or what.
When it heats and after how much of gaming does it starts heating and up to what temperature.
Someone who will answer these questions for me would be great.
I own G3 from moto and loved it and looking for an upgrade.
It's been a day since I have the device. Played some games and it's pretty much okay! I came from Moto X Play, and I'm gonna say it's way better than that. MXP heated like hell, reached 45-47 at times during some sessions of calls. And in gaming it went 51.
I played Real Racing 3 for an hour and so, and it was pretty okay to me. Warm, yes. Hot, no! The device definitely felt warm, but it was kinda okay to me! I don't game on my phone usually. But yes gaming drained my battery way way faster than I expected it.
If you are looking for an upgrade, I'd say go for it. It is way better than G3 and you will love it.
Good to read, as I plan to upgrade my G2 with the G4(plus). Heat is an issue with my G2, especialy when in the car, navigating and on the charger. Looks like it fried my gps. (The main reason to upgrade)
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It's been a day since I have the device. Played some games and it's pretty much okay! I came from Moto X Play, and I'm gonna say it's way better than that. MXP heated like hell, reached 45-47 at times during some sessions of calls. And in gaming it went 51.
I played Real Racing 3 for an hour and so, and it was pretty okay to me. Warm, yes. Hot, no! The device definitely felt warm, but it was kinda okay to me! I don't game on my phone usually. But yes gaming drained my battery way way faster than I expected it.
If you are looking for an upgrade, I'd say go for it. It is way better than G3 and you will love it.
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Brother, can u please give detailed info on the battery department? Battery is my main concern and that's why returned moto g turbo.
I need at least 5 to 6 hours of SoT with 3g switched on throughout the day. I'll be using FB, twitter, offline video playback, YouTube, extensive browsing whole day and an hour of gaming as well.
Will it last a day?
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Brother, can u please give detailed info on the battery department? Battery is my main concern and that's why returned moto g turbo.
I need at least 5 to 6 hours of SoT with 3g switched on throughout the day. I'll be using FB, twitter, offline video playback, YouTube, extensive browsing whole day and an hour of gaming as well.
Will it last a day?
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You need a 5-6hr SOT after having Facebook on phone? You must be kidding! 5-6hr sot is nearly impossible for a moto g. I think 4-5hrs is more adequate to predict.
Though its early for me to say about battery! I'm gonna post some screenshots by Monday of my usage cycles.
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You need a 5-6hr SOT after having Facebook on phone? You must be kidding! 5-6hr sot is nearly impossible for a moto g. I think 4-5hrs is more adequate to predict.
Though its early for me to say about battery! I'm gonna post some screenshots by Monday of my usage cycles.
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Alright, I'll wait till Monday. But what's wrong with FB app? I use it on my moto e and haven't had any problem with it. With the same usage I mentioned earlier, moto e seems to do excellent job. 5 1/2 to 6 hours of SOT is norm.
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Alright, I'll wait till Monday. But what's wrong with FB app? I use it on my moto e and haven't had any problem with it. With the same usage I mentioned earlier, moto e seems to do excellent job. 5 1/2 to 6 hours of SOT is norm.
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For once try uninstalling the Facebook Family Apps (Fb, Messenger, Groups, or Pages) and then note the changes. Facebook apps tend to have wakelocks and alarms that are way too frequent.
com.facebook.common.executors.WakingExecutorServic e.ACTION.ALARM.com.facebook.katana
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this alarm for example happens every 1600s maybe.
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T_I said:
Good to read, as I plan to upgrade my G2 with the G4(plus). Heat is an issue with my G2, especialy when in the car, navigating and on the charger. Looks like it fried my gps. (The main reason to upgrade)
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Due to G4P not having a magnetic sensor, you gonna have this issue on G4P. It is gonna use mobile data to know your orientation. I'm not gonna judge though. I don't know yet. Still have to test it. :good:
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Due to G4P not having a magnetic sensor, you gonna have this issue on G4P. It is gonna use mobile data to know your orientation. I'm not gonna judge though. I don't know yet. Still have to test it. :good:
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Ehm... My gps got fried (literally) by heat buildup while navigating in the car and charging at the same time. Now when it's in the car and charging, the hps drops away from time to time. As this thread was started by the OP asking about heating issues, I got curious of the G4 has the same issue as I experienced with the G2. I don't see the link with the magnetic sensor, unless that sensor is producing heat..
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Ehm... My gps got fried (literally) by heat buildup while navigating in the car and charging at the same time. Now when it's in the car and charging, the hps drops away from time to time. As this thread was started by the OP asking about heating issues, I got curious of the G4 has the same issue as I experienced with the G2. I don't see the link with the magnetic sensor, unless that sensor is producing heat..
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The absence of the sensor will trigger the modem (using data/wifi) which will eventually cause the device to heat up!
iamavneetsingh said:
The absence of the sensor will trigger the modem (using data/wifi) which will eventually cause the device to heat up!
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Even with data and wifi already on? I'll try with the device only setting instead of high accuracy. Could save the G4+ from getting fried.
Moto G4 Plus getting heated while charging to 48-50 Degree. Room temp is about 25-27 degree.
No 3rd party app is installed till now.
Seems unusual, should i go for replacement ??
Look budy if you use mobile while charging is not right........
Use mobile after the charge it will not heat...
It will heat only when
1. Hotsopt is on
2. Gaming....
Use of battery and performance a lot......
Every mobile have heating essu.... So don't worry buy phone I love it...
Tyson568 said:
Look budy if you use mobile while charging is not right........
Use mobile after the charge it will not heat...
It will heat only when
1. Hotsopt is on
2. Gaming....
Use of battery and performance a lot......
Every mobile have heating essu.... So don't worry buy phone I love it...
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How's the battery life? Need at least 5.50 to 6 hours of SoT with regular 3g usage throughout the day.
it will be for 3-5 hr battery life... On u
How u use it
Phone heats up only during charging.
iamavneetsingh said:
It's been a day since I have the device. Played some games and it's pretty much okay! I came from Moto X Play, and I'm gonna say it's way better than that. MXP heated like hell, reached 45-47 at times during some sessions of calls. And in gaming it went 51.
I played Real Racing 3 for an hour and so, and it was pretty okay to me. Warm, yes. Hot, no! The device definitely felt warm, but it was kinda okay to me! I don't game on my phone usually. But yes gaming drained my battery way way faster than I expected it.
If you are looking for an upgrade, I'd say go for it. It is way better than G3 and you will love it.
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Hi Avneet,
I am also looking to buy G4plus 32gb ver. for my cousin, but yesterday flipkrt droped price of xplay, so thinking should i consider that option or still go for G4plus. Camera and battery is plus for MXP.
Any thoughts /suggestion ..?
discoversumit said:
Hi Avneet,
I am also looking to buy G4plus 32gb ver. for my cousin, but yesterday flipkrt droped price of xplay, so thinking should i consider that option or still go for G4plus. Camera and battery is plus for MXP.
Any thoughts /suggestion ..?
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Yea! You could go for it. If you wish! Camera is a big plus. Battery too. But only if you stay on the stock rom! I was using CM13. And i went from 6-7hr sot to 4-5 hr sot with excessive heating on long browser sessions.
Laser focus, fingerprint sensor, gyroscope and 3GB of ram made me buy MG4P. All of these are missing on the MXP.
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Yea! You could go for it. If you wish! Camera is a big plus. Battery too. But only if you stay on the stock rom! I was using CM13. And i went from 6-7hr sot to 4-5 hr sot with excessive heating on long browser sessions.
Laser focus, fingerprint sensor, gyroscope and 3GB of ram made me buy MG4P. All of these are missing on the MXP.
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yes, thats plus for G4P and processer and ram are plus here as well.
NFC part in MXP is plus too i think so, usage would be moderate as far i think, gaming and normal usage...
Just want to mention that there are already a few threads on lenovo forum about heating issues
expect them to grow in number when the phone is released in the states (I think india and brazil useres are realtively less post on english forums)
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G-13MP-16MP-Plus/bd-p/MotoG4thGen
every device heats if you put up it in extensive use without heat dissipation.
well about g4 plus all i can say is that it is a cool device in every terms except battery should be 3300 Mah but i am still getting about 8 hr of sot in 1 recharge cycle.(if you play games then it will last about 4 hrs of sot) & turbo charger supplied with it is also very good, it charges first 80 % in 60 (phone temp would be around 43 -44 degree while turbo charging then it drops to below 40 degree or depending on ambient temperature )minutes then remaining 20 % is charged with normal way in 40 min or so.
here are some game play screenshots for your convenience to check temperature:-
(all games were in highest settings)
1. game= rayark implosion
ambient temp = 36 degree
maximum phone temperature during game play = 39 degree
game 2 :- real racing 3
max temp :- 38
game 3:- marvels champion
max temp:- 38 degree
i didn't find any over heating
but if you play intensive games where ambient temp is 45 degree it is bound to get hot.
tip:- while playing game or charging via turbo charger remove protective back case(if you have one.)
turbo charging takes exactly 100 min to full charge
0 to 80% in 60 min my phone temp was 42-44 degree.
80 to 100 % in last 40 min temp drops below 38 degree automatically.
hope this helps

Patiently waiting for No. 1 D7's sporty twin, the D8

I loved having a working heart rate monitor on my BT tethering watch, zeblase Crystal. unfortunately, the heart rate chip failed, which got me seriously looking at Android watches. I was pretty impressed with the D5 and D5+, since you can tweak to improve battery life. Then No. 1 announced the D7 with a very nice 500 mAH battery, which they claimed has 5 days of standby life. I began waiting for some good, detailed reviews and, bless him, Smartwatch Ticks delivered. Well, his online review and updated RL testing, which you'll find in the comments below the video, reveal a smartwatch with improved battery life and decent recharge times. He got 29 hours with BT and WIFI on, a SIM card installed and screen brightness at 50% (GPS was turned off). Recharge to 100% took 90 minutes. When in conservation mode with the SIM card out and everything shut off and screen brightness at 25%, he got 76.5 hours. The best thing for me is that No. 1 will shortly be bring out a sporty twin version of this watch with a silicon band, the D8. I think this will be my new smartwatch, when they're available. It's not just the battery size that's helping achieve better battery life, they also used a battery-friendly design, dual core architecture rather than quad core and lower resolution screen. With that said, it's got a beautful screen and performs well. I'm hoping Smartwatch Ticks gets the D8 to review, too. If you're looking for an Android smartwatch with good battery life, I'd suggest that you check out Smartwatch Tick's review (it looks like there's finally a decent update to Fundowear's fitness app, too).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw92M2naNWA
mke1973 said:
I loved having a working heart rate monitor on my BT tethering watch, zeblase Crystal. unfortunately, the heart rate chip failed, which got me seriously looking at Android watches. I was pretty impressed with the D5 and D5+, since you can tweak to improve battery life. Then No. 1 announced the D7 with a very nice 500 mAH battery, which they claimed has 5 days of standby life. I began waiting for some good, detailed reviews and, bless him, Smartwatch Ticks delivered. Well, his online review and updated RL testing, which you'll find in the comments below the video, reveal a smartwatch with improved battery life and decent recharge times. He got 29 hours with BT and WIFI on, a SIM card installed and screen brightness at 50% (GPS was turned off). Recharge to 100% took 90 minutes. When in conservation mode with the SIM card out and everything shut off and screen brightness at 25%, he got 76.5 hours. The best thing for me is that No. 1 will shortly be bring out a sporty twin version of this watch with a silicon band, the D8. I think this will be my new smartwatch, when they're available. It's not just the battery size that's helping achieve better battery life, they also used a battery-friendly design, dual core architecture rather than quad core and lower resolution screen. With that said, it's got a beautful screen and performs well. I'm hoping Smartwatch Ticks gets the D8 to review, too. If you're looking for an Android smartwatch with good battery life, I'd suggest that you check out Smartwatch Tick's review (it looks like there's finally a decent update to Fundowear's fitness app, too).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw92M2naNWA
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Thats what I am thinking too!. I have a lem5 and love it, but battery is maybe 5 or 6 hours with minimal use.... So I was looking at the D7 and blown away by smartwatchtick's yourtube!!!!!! Then I happened to see the no1. D8 from their website and I am sold!
With everything off (wifi, BT and GPS) I have 20% per 24h battery drain so it's pretty nice result.

Screen on time

It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Samsung Galaxy M51 before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Getting 17hrs of screen on time minimum on full charge for youtube 3hrs , clash of clans 2hrs and 45-50 mins of calls per day....last 3 days with my usage
Plus Whatsapp of 1 hrs approx per day
gandeepan said:
Getting 17hrs of screen on time minimum on full charge for youtube 3hrs , clash of clans 2hrs and 45-50 mins of calls per day....last 3 days with my usage
Plus Whatsapp of 1 hrs approx per day
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SS or it didn't happen
I've had this phone 2 days and so far I've had 6 hours 31 minutes of screen time and I have 58 percent battery left. This is mostly YouTube, Web browsing, an hour of downloading apps from play store and a bit of emulation (ppsspp) am extremely impressed with the battery life on this phone.
Battery lasts more than 2 days at Medium Power Saving mode with moderate apps usage(no gaming but with youtube, magic fluid live wallpaper, whatsapp, browsing) and SOT approx 13+ hours in these two days. At the end of second day battery remains at 30-35%.
Has anybody here compared to the Moto G8 Power? Is the battery life even better?
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Has anybody here compared to the Moto G8 Power? Is the battery life even better?
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Exactly how do you think a cheap SD 665 11nm chip with a 5,000mAh battery will do against a higher tier SD 730g 8nm chip with a 7,000mAh battery?
Hmmmmm ?
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Exactly how do you think a cheap SD 665 11nm chip with a 5,000mAh battery will do against a higher tier SD 730g 8nm chip with a 7,000mAh battery?
Hmmmmm ?
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Could have answered like a normal person.
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Could have answered like a normal person.
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I did... Exactly how do you think they will compare?
@Devilmonkey27 No need for snark...
It was a genuine question, try to provide a genuine answer. Please reply properly or don't reply at all.
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@Devilmonkey27 No need for snark...
It was a genuine question, try to provide a genuine answer. Please reply properly or don't reply at all.
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So exactly how do you think a phone with half the specs will do?
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So exactly how do you think a phone with half the specs will do?
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You're missing the point. My post has nothing to do with that...
I'm simply asking, that if you have anything to add to a thread, please do so in a constructive manner without snark or attitude. It would have been very easy for you to convey your message without being rude or condescending.
If you've got more to discuss on this particular matter, please contact me through a private message (to keep the thread on topic).
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Exactly how do you think a cheap SD 665 11nm chip with a 5,000mAh battery will do against a higher tier SD 730g 8nm chip with a 7,000mAh battery?
Hmmmmm ?
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To come back on it, I have it since today and so far it's looking like the G8 Power has better or equal batterylife, standby drain is somehow bad on the M51, I checked all apps. Still I'll let the software settle and get through more cycles and check Gsam Battery Monitor in a couple of days again.
I honestly blame Samsung's other apps that aren't used and aren't able to be disabled or uninstalled.
Hi guys. I wanted to let you know my findings and provide some test results of galaxy m51 battery life. Firstly, I will outline what was my priority for that test. I wanted to check how long the phone can last mainly on google maps navigation with additional apps in the background. Also this test is a bit static so to speak but had no chance travelling for so many hours. That said I believe SOT was tested correctly for my planned usage. I guess in a real case scenario, I would need to do some more browsing and perhaps occasional screen switch offs during a break like filling up the fuel or stop to rest on a bicycle.
How I performed my test.
1. I did some initial installations, downloaded my apps and logged in to social apps such as FB, Spotify so they can work in the background, send notifications etc.
2. Once I completed the setup, I charged the very new phone to 100%. AccuBatter reported capacity was 6800mAh designed capacity not 7000mAh and estimated capacity 6700mAh.
3. CPU-Z reported Snapdragon 730 so I regret it is not 730G and honestly I do not know how to check with online stores as the packaging does not help with this. Also, I plan to test POCO F2 PRO 8gb ram/256gb version the same way and see how it goes since I get better hardware, but I like SD card slot on galaxy m51. Very useful when resetting the phone.
4. Set google maps navigation, lunched another app which uses GPS and LTE for maps showing speed cameras, road works or dangers which I use alongside with google maps. I also start shuffle play on Spotify to imitate streaming the music in my car or on the bike.
5. WiFi, LTE, GPS, Bluetooth, sync was enabled, blue light filter enabled.
6. Between 15-20 apps were in the background.
7. I unplugged the device from the mains.
8. Initial 15% discharge was with a WiFi connection with my router. Then switched of my router for overnight, left wifi enabled on Samsung but it had to continue downloading data over LTE such as Spotify music streaming. I also changed google map setting to day light only to avoid night backlight.
9. I went to bed? and in the morning there was still a lot of juice.
10. Around 20% discharge I took about 100 pictures most of them in burst mode to simulate a trip where you simply stop and take some snaps.
11. I stopped the test at 1% discharge and noticed no heating problem. The phone was cool during the test.
The overall SOT measured until 1% discharge was a staggering 17h 50m? Below you will find AccuBattery screenshots. At remaining 15% I had still over 2 h 42 m of use left.
This phone reminded me of good, old days of my Samsung galaxy s3 with a Zerolemon 7000mAh?
Now with my galaxy s7 deteriorating battery (current capacity just over 2300mAh) this is a great thing. For Galaxy s7 I also own a KiwiBird powerbank case of 5400mAh right from the beginning wich did its job when away from the mains, travelling etc.
I guess for a more accurate SOT, I would need to add some phone calls and browsing but even with I deduct 2h, it is still nearly 16 h of use. Like for me excellent. I also do not plan gaming.
On the downside of this phone it seems like my galaxy s7 takes a bit better picture, but it just might be my perception of selfies taken. Back camera is also just ok on a cloudy day. Ok but that is an offtopic.
I got my M51 yesterday and I am not fully sure yet about battery lifetime. I have charged it to 100% and about 8 hours and 2.5 hours secreen time later I am at about 90%.
Coming from my Moto Z Play I am not sure yet if I stay with the galaxy. The Mot Z Play with Incipio OffGrid Wireless Power Pack mod is about the same size and weight. Though provides less capacity (3300mAh phone + 2200mAh power mod) but battery lifetime still was bout 3-4 days usually.
The M51 is also getting considerably warmer during use.
I noticed also the Samsung battery saver with medium settings can reduce the CPU clock to max out at 70% which is handy. Not sure if there is any undervolting, underclocking tools as I think I would be perfectly fine with less performance - actually I was able to reach insane battery life on my old Galaxy P1000 with TricksterMod and custom undervolting back in the days.
I still believe better lifetime with the M51 would be possible bz reducing CPU clock and also with better screen brightness control. I noticed many times already that the M51 screen was too bright for me and having to reduce the slider to "minimum" position or very close to it. Also I noticed that the screen brightness slider is not linear at all. So on the last notch on the left side the screen really starts to dim properly while to the right there isn't much change. Also I like still to use automatic screen brightness adjustments but found the automatic adjustment often moves the brightness too high.
Also a possibility to limit the used screen area (e.g. display black bar on bottom/top) would save energy on the AMOLED screen while still providing more than enough screen space.
EDIT: One-Handed mode sort of provides this feature, but not exactly what I was looking for (like cinema-bars on top and bottom and no prominent "one-handed-mode" title.
I will continue to use the M51 for a couple of charges and decide if I am going to trade it again. The phone itself is performing well, supporting VoLTE WiFi calling but seems to lack carrier aggregation for no apparent reason. I strongly dislike the slippery, fingerprint-attracting, cheap-looking plastic backside of it.
I also hate that everywhere you tap it tries to sign up to a Samsung account. Also replaced the launcher with Nova launcher.
Below is the answer to almost all above useless posts
Battery life tests - GSMArena.com
Why I say useless ?
Simply. SOT will be completely different when you read ebooks compared when you watch movies or browse Internet.
Gsmarena does standarised comparison
I am fan of long life battery phones. I used "king" Lenovo P2 for over 2 years. M51 is better.
I'm at the fourth cycle of charge.. and got 15 hrs so far.. have done a heavy idb debloating
maby it will increase over more charging cycles?
i m getting about 20h sot normal usage
facebook lite, browser , youtube , aliexpress and playing alphalt extreme 30 min
wifi and dark mode on
brightness between 10-40 %
data off
location off
this phone have a very good battery

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