as the title says... is it working if i flash official lollipop via odin and downgrade it to official kitkat.
currently running on dead x-note development.. i want to try lolipop rom but i'm afraid what if i didnt like lolipop.. will i still able to downgrade it by just flashing via odin?
i know this question is already ask a million times but all the thread that i found here is old and talk about the leaked lollipop firmware but my question here is downgrading from official lollipop to official kitkat. thank you
bhovoi said:
as the title says... is it working if i flash official lollipop via odin and downgrade it to official kitkat.
currently running on dead x-note development.. i want to try lolipop rom but i'm afraid what if i didnt like lolipop.. will i still able to downgrade it by just flashing via odin?
i know this question is already ask a million times but all the thread that i found here is old and talk about the leaked lollipop firmware but my question here is downgrading from official lollipop to official kitkat. thank you
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Download and flash the firmware via ODIN without upload the bootloader.
Joku1981 said:
Download and flash the firmware via ODIN without upload the bootloader.
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what do you mean without the bootloader? if i flash official lollipop firmware from sammobile i think it includes the bootloader, right?
Joku1981 said:
Download and flash the firmware via ODIN without upload the bootloader.
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Hello,
Yes it is possible to downgrade from an official Molitor to an official kitkat (the latest).
I do it, when the flash is end and the mobile show the logo Samsung
You can put out the battery, reboot to the recovery and wipe all user data.
Before do that save all your data.
It's an official administrator from Samsung who say me do so.
Hope that can help you.
Fredox.57 said:
Hello,
Yes it is possible to downgrade from an official Molitor to an official kitkat (the latest).
I do it, when the flash is end and the mobile show the logo Samsung
You can put out the battery, reboot to the recovery and wipe all user data.
Before do that save all your data.
It's an official administrator from Samsung who say me do so.
Hope that can help you.
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what do you mean by the kitkat (latest) because not all country have the same latest version.. like in my case my mobile is originally from KSA. and i think its not the latest kitkat out there.
Joku1981 said:
Download and flash the firmware via ODIN without upload the bootloader.
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Isn't the bootloader required to flash the ROM?
I'm very afraid of trying stock lollipop. I was on Temasek's CM12 build but I had abysmal batterylife. This was probably not attributed to Temasek's build but rather to CM12 as a whole, so I went back to my nandroid containing Crash Rom V19 on kitkat 4.4.2 and I literally have less than 1% drain per hour with the phone idle. I love this batterylife, and I feel I'd like to try and see if stock lollipop TW will give me the same but I would like the option to go back to kitkat if it's worse. I like lollipop a lot but the promise of batterylife seems to hit and miss, makes me stay on kitkat.
I know Crash Rom has a lollipop version, but beside this, which ROM is the MOST stock with the least amount of modifications?
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Hello, i am currently at 4.2.2 firmware (I9505XXUBMG4) and i have a EFS backup and a nandroid backup. i wish to upgrade my phone to 4.4 but i not sure because maybe if i do not like the 4.4 i will not be able to downgrade to 4.2.
can i go back to 4.2 from 4.4?? i don't care about the warranty or the knox feature
fdlm82 said:
Hello, i am currently at 4.2.2 firmware (I9505XXUBMG4) and i have a EFS backup and a nandroid backup. i wish to upgrade my phone to 4.4 but i not sure because maybe if i do not like the 4.4 i will not be able to downgrade to 4.2.
can i go back to 4.2 from 4.4?? i don't care about the warranty or the knox feature
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Hi ,
Once you upgrade your bootloader is not possible to go back to 4..2.2 (or 4.3)
You upgrade your bootloader if:
Flash a stock rom 4.3 and higher
you do not upgrade your bootloader if:
root , install custom recovery and flash a custom rom , there are a few good rom based in samsung stock 4.3 and 4.4.2 you can try them see if you like them and if you don't you can always flash stock 4.2.2 and be as you were
Ok, so essensialy i can't downgrade the bootloader to 4.2.
but a official 4.2.2 firmware (without knox) will work on a 4.4 bootloader ??? (again i don't care about knox working or not)
fdlm82 said:
Ok, so essensialy i can't downgrade the bootloader to 4.2.
but a official 4.2.2 firmware (without knox) will work on a 4.4 bootloader ??? (again i don't care about knox working or not)
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Thats downgrading. So no it wont work.
Lennyz1988 said:
Thats downgrading. So no it wont work.
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Yes i know is downgrading, that is the main question of this
MAX 404 said:
Hi ,
Once you upgrade your bootloader is not possible to go back to 4..2.2 (or 4.3)
You upgrade your bootloader if:
Flash a stock rom 4.3 and higher
you do not upgrade your bootloader if:
root , install custom recovery and flash a custom rom , there are a few good rom based in samsung stock 4.3 and 4.4.2 you can try them see if you like them and if you don't you can always flash stock 4.2.2 and be as you were
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Ok, so essensialy i can't downgrade the bootloader to 4.2.
but a official 4.2.2 firmware (without knox) will work on a 4.4 bootloader ??? (again i don't care about knox working or not)
fdlm82 said:
Ok, so essensialy i can't downgrade the bootloader to 4.2.
but a official 4.2.2 firmware (without knox) will work on a 4.4 bootloader ??? (again i don't care about knox working or not)
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You are asking the same question again. It's not possible.
Lennyz1988 said:
You are asking the same question again. It's not possible.
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It has been done to 4.3 in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2744061
they have flashed a 4.3 ROM without bootloader over a 4.4 ROM so the result is a 4.3 rom with a 4.4 bootloader
fdlm82 said:
Ok, so essensialy i can't downgrade the bootloader to 4.2.
but a official 4.2.2 firmware (without knox) will work on a 4.4 bootloader ??? (again i don't care about knox working or not)
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HI ,
Mate if you flash with Odin or OTA (kies) you will change the bootloader , ok? so once you have a 4..4 bootloader installed there is no way to install back a 4,2,2 stock ( official ) firmware , 4.4.2 official firmware includes 4.4.2 bootloader and flashing an older bootloader than the one you have is not possible (yet)
your options are:
4.2.2 bootloader
stay there do nothing
Upgrade to official 4.4 and not be able to downgrade to 4.2.2 official
root , install CWM and install any custom rom you want ( 4.2.2 , 4.3 or 4.4.2 and 4.4.4 ) and if you do not like any of them go back to official 4.2.2
Once you upgrade to official 4.4.2 there is no way to go back to official 4.2.2 , the only way to go back to 4.2.2 would be with a custom rom
MAX 404 said:
HI ,
Mate if you flash with Odin or OTA (kies) you will change the bootloader , ok? so once you have a 4..4 bootloader installed there is no way to install back a 4,2,2 stock ( official ) firmware , 4.4.2 official firmware includes 4.4.2 bootloader and flashing an older bootloader than the one you have is not possible (yet)
your options are:
4.2.2 bootloader
stay there do nothing
Upgrade to official 4.4 and not be able to downgrade to 4.2.2 official
root , install CWM and install any custom rom you want ( 4.2.2 , 4.3 or 4.4.2 and 4.4.4 ) and if you do not like any of them go back to official 4.2.2
Once you upgrade to official 4.4.2 there is no way to go back to official 4.2.2 , the only way to go back to 4.2.2 would be with a custom rom
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If i understood right, you are saying that can be done if i flash a custom rom as intermediate step between official 4.4 and official 4.2 ??
fdlm82 said:
If i understood right, you are saying that can be done if i flash a custom rom as intermediate step between official 4.4 and official 4.2 ??
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No . I did not say that
Once you are in an official 4.4.2 firmware , the only way to use a 4.2.2 rom would be by flashing an un official 4.2.2 custom rom
MAX 404 said:
No . I did not say that
Once you are in an official 4.4.2 firmware , the only way to use a 4.2.2 rom would be by flashing an un official 4.2.2 custom rom
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Ok, thanks for the info.
in the following this thread they have installed a 4.3 rom over a 4.4 bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2744061
maybe someone find a similar way to install a 4.2....
fdlm82 said:
Ok, thanks for the info.
in the following this thread they have installed a 4.3 rom over a 4.4 bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2744061
maybe someone find a similar way to install a 4.2....
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Ok mate ,
Good luck .
Hello guys,
I have a note 3 n9005 model I decided to update my firmware with the recently released Polish lolipop firmware using odin and everything was great, after 3 days of use it appears that lollipop is a bit laggy and sometimes hangs for a while that's why I want downgrade to Kitkat, also i would like to mention that I have updated the bootloader while flashing by ticking the update bootloader button in odin.
Now what's the possibilities of using odin again to downgrade to official Kitkat using one package file?
If not possible what if I have flashed a separate bootloader file then used odin with official kitkat is that even possible ?
Furthermore, I was thinking about rooting my Lollipop then flash a custom recovery and then wipe data and cache to install a flashable custom Kitkat.
My request is that I need someone experienced to confirm with me on what should I do without risking bricking my N3, I'm going to die with it if it's bricked
Thanks in advance for your support.
Regards,
Where is the great supporters ? Not even a one reply :crying:
People for bored answering same question again and again.
You can't root lollipop yet.
Just flash kk back and root
kenny1991 said:
People for bored answering same question again and again.
You can't root lollipop yet.
Just flash kk back and root
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Lolipop is rootable search the forum, and this not my question actually I'm asking what if i rooted it then installed a cwm based recovery to flash Kitkat, will this work or I'm risking for a brick or bootloop or any other problems?
If you have the right answer please answer it with prove, if not this thread is not for bored ppl that don't provide any fruitful feedback.
Regards,
Is it possible to downgrade the N910F from Lollipop (POF2) to KitKat (ANK5)?
YES, IT IS POSSIBLE.
Before yesterday I've never used KitKat on my Note4.. When I bought the phone I had no time to try it (KitKat) because I've straight rooted it and flashed a Lollipop based ROM.
Then yesterday I wanted to try a KitKat based ROM and I've lost about 30/40min looking in the forum for the answer to the question Is it possible to downgrade the N910F from Lollipop (POF2 or whatever) to KitKat (ANK5)?
I could not find a proper answer.. there was this BOF5 bootloader can not be downgraded but it was always in a "strange contest" and it did not convinced me.. after 30/40min I said ***k *t and I just performed a full wipe from TWRP, flashed ANK5 modem and bootloader via ODIN, and installed the KitKat ROM from TWRP.
Sorry for the Question/Answer but this thread may will help someone to save time.
P.S.: My KitKat adventure lasted only 10min... It looked ugly to my eyes! Went back on POF2 and now trying out AICP
_mone said:
Is it possible to downgrade the N910F from Lollipop (POF2) to KitKat (ANK5)?
YES, IT IS POSSIBLE.
Before yesterday I've never used KitKat on my Note4.. When I bought the phone I had no time to try it (KitKat) because I've straight rooted it and flashed a Lollipop based ROM.
Then yesterday I wanted to try a KitKat based ROM and I've lost about 30/40min looking in the forum for the answer to the question Is it possible to downgrade the N910F from Lollipop (POF2 or whatever) to KitKat (ANK5)?
I could not find a proper answer.. there was this BOF5 bootloader can not be downgraded but it was always in a "strange contest" and it did not convinced me.. after 30/40min I said ***k *t and I just performed a full wipe from TWRP, flashed ANK5 modem and bootloader via ODIN, and installed the KitKat ROM from TWRP.
Sorry for the Question/Answer but this thread may will help someone to save time.
P.S.: My KitKat adventure lasted only 10min... It looked ugly to my eyes! Went back on POF2 and now trying out AICP
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When you flashed that lollipop-based rom, that was a custom rom I assume? Did it contain a bootloader? Maybe you were still on the KitKat bootloader.
GidiK said:
When you flashed that lollipop-based rom, that was a custom rom I assume? Did it contain a bootloader? Maybe you were still on the KitKat bootloader.
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Yes, it was a custom ROM. No, it didn't contain bootloader. No, I wasn't on the KitKat bootloader, for sure my bootloader was POF2. Trust me if I tell you that before the KitKat ROM I've flashed too many Lollipop ROMs with many Lollipop bootloaders.
I'm trying to do this but i fail in every action at odin with this SW rev. check fail. device 2 binary 1 in my SM-N910C and in odin its fail... ( i gets this after recovering my phone at kies after a bootloop )
i have a note 4 n910c with L.P 5.1.1 how a can downgrade to K.K or 5.01 L.P always fail when i try with odin. help please
Quick background. So my note 4 is currently on 5.0.1 boe1, stock rooted knox flag tripped so I cant update via OTA to 5.1.1 which is fine, I'm already readying myself for a manual Odin update
Question is that if there is a 5.1.1 firmware avail on my country for my provider, if I flash the stock 5.1.1 firmware does it also flash the 5.1.1 bootloader or will it retain my 5.0.1 bootloader? I'm pretty sure it will also update the bootloader but wanted to ask anyway to confirm.
Main reason for asking is that I know you lose root when you flash stock firmware via Odin. I'd still want to attain root after upgrading to 5.1.1. Not sure if there are any methods to date to root on 5.1.1 bootloader, or if its safe to flash the 5.0.1 bootloader after the 5.1.1 stock firmware flash.
TIA for those who would answer. [emoji1]
Sent from my SM-N910C using Tapatalk
trebllaw said:
Quick background. So my note 4 is currently on 5.0.1 boe1, stock rooted knox flag tripped so I cant update via OTA to 5.1.1 which is fine, I'm already readying myself for a manual Odin update
Question is that if there is a 5.1.1 firmware avail on my country for my provider, if I flash the stock 5.1.1 firmware does it also flash the 5.1.1 bootloader or will it retain my 5.0.1 bootloader? I'm pretty sure it will also update the bootloader but wanted to ask anyway to confirm.
Main reason for asking is that I know you lose root when you flash stock firmware via Odin. I'd still want to attain root after upgrading to 5.1.1. Not sure if there are any methods to date to root on 5.1.1 bootloader, or if its safe to flash the 5.0.1 bootloader after the 5.1.1 stock firmware flash.
TIA for those who would answer. [emoji1]
Sent from my SM-N910C using Tapatalk
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Simple bro. Don't forget to backup your data!!!
Poland 5.1.1 comes with 4 files including bootloader, modem, csc and system. Country or provider means nothing for it, it will work anyway. So, here are the things you gonna do:
1-) Flash Poland 5.1.1 with odin (be careful to place all files in correct section in odin!!!)
2-) Enable usb debugging from developer options
3-) Flash twrp with odin
4-) Lastly, flash which 5.1.1 rom you like, all of them are rooted now :good:
Bumping up since 5.1.1 is already avail on my country. Wanted to know if flashing the 5.1.1 firmware would wipe the device or will it be just an upgrade.?Haven't tried flashing an official firmware on top of an official stock (lower version).
trebllaw said:
Bumping up since 5.1.1 is already avail on my country. Wanted to know if flashing the 5.1.1 firmware would wipe the device or will it be just an upgrade.?Haven't tried flashing an official firmware on top of an official stock (lower version).
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It won't wipe your phone data, it will be like an upgrade.
Secondly tripping knox does not mean you will not receive OTA. As long as you are fully stock and when you check the system status in settings and it states 'official' you will receive the OTAs
Battlehero said:
It won't wipe your phone data, it will be like an upgrade.
Secondly tripping knox does not mean you will not receive OTA. As long as you are fully stock and when you check the system status in settings and it states 'official' you will receive the OTAs
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Thanks! Yep, realize that now. I believe the reason I can't receive OTA is due to the custom recovery I've installed. Will try reverting to stock recovery first to see if I can OTA upgrade. If not, will download the full firmware and flash on ODIN.
trebllaw said:
Thanks! Yep, realize that now. I believe the reason I can't receive OTA is due to the custom recovery I've installed. Will try reverting to stock recovery first to see if I can OTA upgrade. If not, will download the full firmware and flash on ODIN.
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The ROM might still consider your device to modified, You may have to flash stock from Odin and then check the status, if it still says modified then a factory reset might be required.
Hi, I meant SGH-i337 in the title.
I beleive I posted this in the completely wrong phone section last time, so I am posting this here.
My device model is the SGH-I337. I downloaded Odin version 3.12.3, downloaded the official drivers for the Samsung S4 USB, but I can't seem to find stock Lollipop 5.0.1. SamMobile only gives the 4.x versions for some reason. I started following the below link for a method to at least flash an older firmware to my phone, but I want to flash stock Lollipop. Is there even a way to get Lollipop back without root?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/help/guide-att-samsung-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-t3383078
I was able to downgrade, but I still need an official stock 5.0.1 firmware. My virus protection says towelroot is a virus, so I don't want to go that route. If I do an OTA upgrade after I flash the old firmware from the above link, will it brick my phone? It's rootable NB1 ROM. I already tried to install the stock 4.x firmware from SamMobile, but that doesn't work, so it seems I need stock Lollipop.
AT&T never released a stock lollipop firmware that can be flashed with Odin. All at&t updates were released ota.
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Hi, I meant SGH-i337 in the title.
I beleive I posted this in the completely wrong phone section last time, so I am posting this here.
My device model is the SGH-I337. I downloaded Odin version 3.12.3, downloaded the official drivers for the Samsung S4 USB, but I can't seem to find stock Lollipop 5.0.1. SamMobile only gives the 4.x versions for some reason. I started following the below link for a method to at least flash an older firmware to my phone, but I want to flash stock Lollipop. Is there even a way to get Lollipop back without root?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/help/guide-att-samsung-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-t3383078
I was able to downgrade, but I still need an official stock 5.0.1 firmware. My virus protection says towelroot is a virus, so I don't want to go that route. If I do an OTA upgrade after I flash the old firmware from the above link, will it brick my phone? It's rootable NB1 ROM. I already tried to install the stock 4.x firmware from SamMobile, but that doesn't work, so it seems I need stock Lollipop.
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Cough Cough
https://www.sammobile.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37698
or if your want a dirict download
http://www.mediafire.com/file/g7cqg4a3zvuttd8/5.0.1.OC3(Farsat+Sagvan).zip
Hi I am running goldeneye custom rom on my i-337 5.0.1 with ok2 kernel. If you go to that forum thread in development, you will find very detailed instructions to get att s4 to 5.0.1 stock. As a side note I can assure you if you just download towel root on your phone, install and run there is no virus of any sort. Make sure you download from towelroot .com
On second look through I don't think there is stock 5.0.1 using safestrap....
paintballa628628 said:
Hi I am running goldeneye custom rom on my i-337 5.0.1 with ok2 kernel. If you go to that forum thread in development, you will find very detailed instructions to get att s4 to 5.0.1 stock. As a side note I can assure you if you just download towel root on your phone, install and run there is no virus of any sort. Make sure you download from towelroot .com
On second look through I don't think there is stock 5.0.1 using safestrap....
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Yupp absolutely true its completely a false positive I've used towlroot many many many times....