Anyone use both a smartwatch and fitness band? - Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a Sony smartwatch an thinking about picking up a fitness band. Looking at the Garmin vivosmart because of its touch screen yet slim profile. Also does notifications. But main reason because android wear sucks at fitness stats. But I can't help but feel having both is a bit redundant. Anyone out there using both? Together? Separately for different occasions?
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What specifically are you looking for that you can't get out of programs like Endomoto, Runkeeper, and Ghostrunner?
So, i ask, because before my SW3, i had (and returned) a Garmin 920XT (same software line as the VivoSmart). While the 920XT was functional, i couldn't find anything it did that justified the price over the SW3. While its not a great program, Google Fit keeps track of steps, and the aforementioned programs track and record fitness activities just great (Ghostrunner can export to Runkeeper or Strava). Perhaps you are in need to the really serious stats that the Garmin RUN-HRM, but then i would point you to the 920XT, and not the Smart...

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What specifically are you looking for that you can't get out of programs like Endomoto, Runkeeper, and Ghostrunner?
So, i ask, because before my SW3, i had (and returned) a Garmin 920XT (same software line as the VivoSmart). While the 920XT was functional, i couldn't find anything it did that justified the price over the SW3. While its not a great program, Google Fit keeps track of steps, and the aforementioned programs track and record fitness activities just great (Ghostrunner can export to Runkeeper or Strava). Perhaps you are in need to the really serious stats that the Garmin RUN-HRM, but then i would point you to the 920XT, and not the Smart...
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It's not running activity that my Sony SW fails to take care of, it's the daily day to day fitness aspects such as steps taken, distance, inactivity, etc. And it's not a direct reflection on the Sony. It's android wear and it's terrible implementation of fitness tracking. The sony just actually benefits for running/biking because of the gps. But I wish it did the things I mentioned a second ago. It does steps but can't trust it at all.

For what its worth (again, having had the Garmin and going to the Sony), the Sony does no worse than the Garmin in terms of step accuracy (as in, its not). My 920 would count any bump (driving was particularly bad). Between google fit and runkeeper i get my same total information i did using garmin connect, so it works. But certainly, YMMV.

I'm using a Moto 360 and a Fitbit. The Fitbit is nice because you can use it to connect to MyFitnessPal to update and compensate for how much working out you've done. Currently Moto 360 has to be linked with the Jawbone UP app, which kinda blows.

I use a vivosmart to compliment my wear watch. In the end I didn't think the integration with my health ecosystem worked well enough and I am a heavy Garmin user as I am a keen cyclist
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I use a vivosmart to compliment my wear watch. In the end I didn't think the integration with my health ecosystem worked well enough and I am a heavy Garmin user as I am a keen cyclist
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I had bought that and returned as I thought it was redundant having two things that displayed notifications. But now I'm tempted to get it again. Just sick of android wear an its lack of fitness tracking. I was going to get the fitbit flex because its the most minimal at $100 but than the vivosmart is just as minimal an actually shows you your info. So I don't know what to do.
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I went for the vivosmart as I am already in their ecosystem as I use their cycle computers. Also I like the fact I can stick on an heart rate monitor with it when I go running
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Garmin Nuvi vs. Fascinate

Well I always kinda wondered if a standalone GPS would be better than using the GPS function of an all-in-one smartphone. They say a device that does everything can do everything moderately well. Not the case here! I have to say, that compared to the phone, Garmin sucks!!
We got these garmins in our vans at work, mainly so they could track us (taddlers). I definitely prefer my phone. Here's why:
1. I have to enter my city for every address I input. WTF? it knows where I am
2. It doesn't know all the addresses that G maps does. On one address, garmin failed and gmaps found it no prob. (those homes have been there over 4 years)
3. It doesn't automatically stop navigating when I arrive. It's like it doesn't even know I'm there...
4. The touch buttons are a pita. I have to touch them just right, this makes it difficult while driving.
Anyway, go gmaps! I guess a multi-function device can do things better than the standalone.
That gps sounds old. I have the newest nuvi and it works well for me and it knows where I am as well. But I do like google maps better than any gps out right now and plus google maps gets updates so you can get a better mapping experience with the locations added. I know there is also a garmin app that I have for my iPhone that works good too.
For sure I guess if you navigate a lot google nav would be better for those reasons. You shouldn't input anything while driving though so the touch screen makes perfect sense to me. Also the voice recognition on android is definitely a plus. Btw next time your company buys nuvis, make sure they get the ones with lifetime map updates...
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How does nuvi get updates, through the sdcard?
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Umm I would ask a store that sells them.
if they arent updating the software every year thats why the phone has better directions. have to keep the GPS updated. havent you seen the "mayhem" commercial? LOL.
Plus I think on most standalone gps units, you have to PAY for the map updates, it was 75$ for the garmin I used to use before I got this phone.
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You update through the sd card. It is 75 bucks to buy the updates, but you can spend a little more and get the nuvis that end with "lm" or "lmt" which stand for lifetime maps or lifetime maps and traffic.
Usually, especially around christmas time, they have great sales where the ones with lifetime updates are basically as cheap if not cheaper than the ones without. But definitely look for the ones that come with lifetime map updates.
I'd much rather use my gps so I dont have to waste precious battery or keep my phone plugged in to the car charger. Especially because when you get calls, it cuts out your data signal...plus I like having the map with street names mounted right in front of me at all times. I use my phone to play music in the car so it gets to be a hassle.
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Seeing as though my Fascinate's GPS had worked flawlessly ever since DJ05(and I used it this weekend for a few hours), I can definitely say it's better. The satellite view is really awesome. The only advantage a dedicated GPS has is the voice. If Google improves the voice, the free GPS on Android phones WILL be the best, even though I consider them that already,
Personally I prefer google nav over my garmin. I still keep the old gps in the trunk incase of emergency if my phone was to die. If you already have one, might as well take it just incase.

Heart rate monitor?

So now that Android 4.3 is out and we supposedly have BT 4 LE support, I'm wondering if anybody has found any good heart rate monitors that work with the Nexus 4. I looked at the Polar H7, but one reviewer has already indicated that it still doesn't work with the N4. So, anybody know of any good ones that do work?
There are already applications that do the trick and they don't have any need of 4.3
Just type heart rate at play store.
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There are already applications that do the trick and they don't have any need of 4.3
Just type heart rate at play store.
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Having to hold your phone and keep a finger steadily on the camera isn't even close to being as useful or battery efficient as bluetooth connecting to something strapped to your arm.
Yeah I need something that monitors heart rate while I am cycling for several hours, running, or otherwise working out. Something compatible with strava or edmondo that isn't expensive as hell (the Polar H7 is the cheapest while being accurate - but it is reported incompatible with the N4.)
Try Runtastic Heart Rate. Its works really good!!! I been using it for along time. You dont need any extra accessories. Just put your finger on the flash light; it will do the rest.
FEATURES:
* Measure your pulse with the camera on your smartphone
* See your HRM results in a graph
* Variety of different, instant measurement types: resting HR, maximum HR, and HR before/after cardio
* Upload, store, and analyze your exercise results on the runtastic fitness site, www.runtastic.com
* Share your HRM results via your social networks: Facebook, Twitter, Google+ and E-mail
Ugh...what's the best way to explain to several people that you don't want to hold your finger on your phone for several hours while you ride your bike?
While being fantastic the new Bluetooth standard is also very buggy and a battery hog, so using one for a few hours along side another athletic assistant app would result in either a dead battery or a dead network board due to the heat.
Although rudimentary the light method is very accurate and easy to use, just use benchmarks and stop to take it rather the stream of data you are looking for.
Your best bet is to get a real heart rate monitor that saves to SD so you can compile at home, trying to get an accessory for a phone will only cost you twice as much for half as much efficiency.
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Runtastic Bluetooth
I've been using the Runtastic Smart Bluetooth Monitor for the last few weeks and I really like it. I don't notice the strap hardly at all when I'm running. The app is great too and mine came with a free upgrade to Runtastic Pro.
http://www.amazon.com/Runtastic-Heart-Rate-Combo-Monitor/dp/B00B84JQSE

[Q] Android Wear as a Running Watch

Hello all, I am looking to either buy a new GPS running watch or an android wear device (had originally ordered an LG Watch R, but the order got messed up) to use while running. My question is, I know if I get a bluetooth heart rate strap, this will talk to my phone using either Runkeeper, Runtastic, Endomondo, or similar, and my phone will display current pace, current heart rate, distance and time. Do any apps have the facility to display all of this information on the watch. I know the new Sony Smartwatch 3 has built in GPS, but it doesn't have a hear rate monitor, so would still need my phone to receive the heart rate data. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Yeah runtastic will display everything on the watch.
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great, thank you, just need to decide, LG G Watch R, Sony Smartwatch 3 or wait on the Asus Zenwatch (its not out here in the UK yet). I think the sony would suit my needs nest however.
Sony is currently the only one with built in GPS. Right now you need to take your phone with you for tracking. Tracking with only the watch isn't supported so far but already available in beta versions oft Runtastic and Runkeeper. You will still need some heart rate strap.
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Tracking is supported with My Tracks, and then you can export it.
I have runtastic pro and a g watch r . My watch doesn't show the notification of runtastic and I can't start a session using the vocal comand on the watch. Why?
I think Samsung gear live has GPS, hrr and is running android wear. which makes it the complete watch. I ordered sony because the battery life is a little bit better and i enjoy that over the heart rate monitor, even if i run marathons.
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I think Samsung gear live has GPS, hrr and is running android wear. which makes it the complete watch. I ordered sony because the battery life is a little bit better and i enjoy that over the heart rate monitor, even if i run marathons.
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Gear Live doesn't have GPS.
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Gear Live doesn't have GPS.
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You are right. Well, it's good that i bought the Sony i can use it to record tracks without the phone...

Which gps-enabled watch?

Hi, all.
Getting into mountain biking and don't want to bust my cell phone, so looking for something that has gps to track speed, distance, etc., while not too heavy on the wallet.
Suggestions? Looked up one ebay and came across this thing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bluetooth-S...939?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e915454d3
Also have some used Lg G watches for around the same price.
Thanks!
RussianBear said:
Hi, all.
Getting into mountain biking and don't want to bust my cell phone, so looking for something that has gps to track speed, distance, etc., while not too heavy on the wallet.
Suggestions? Looked up one ebay and came across this thing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bluetooth-S...939?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e915454d3
Also have some used Lg G watches for around the same price.
Thanks!
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So far, the sony smartwatch 3 is the only android wear smartwatch which has gps. It's great!
Notice in the ad none of the people are actually wearing it. That is a tip off that they are stock photographs and that the product is probably massive. The battery capacity also leads me to believe it is a monster.
Best bet is Sony sw 3. Love mine and GPS functionality is great!
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Hi,
I confirm that there is no GPS in G Watch.
For sw3, do you know how long you can use GPS?
I guess it reduces battery life, but can we track path during 2 hours or more?
Ecrou said:
Hi,
I confirm that there is no GPS in G Watch.
For sw3, do you know how long you can use GPS?
I guess it reduces battery life, but can we track path during 2 hours or more?
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I've heard anywhere between 5-6 hours. Which sounds about right because when I go running for an hour or so, it goes down about 20%. This is with Bluetooth headphones connected listening to music as well.
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hecksagon said:
Notice in the ad none of the people are actually wearing it. That is a tip off that they are stock photographs and that the product is probably massive. The battery capacity also leads me to believe it is a monster.
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I literally loled at those pictures!

Wear for running? Google Pixel Wear?

So I am in the market for a new smartwatch/fitness band and I am intrigued but not sold on the Ticwatch E/S. They seem like quality devices at an affordable price, but I'm not sure they check all the boxes for me.
What I want is to run with my strava app without my phone, meaning leave my phone at the house. I also like to listen to podcasts and music while I run meaning I need some onboard storage. I also need the sensors (gps, gyro, heartrate etc..) to be fairly accurate and decent battery life 2-3 days would be awesome!
Does anyone have a good recommendation? Also what are the odds we will see a Pixel Wear device at Google I/O? I have a google store credit, but there are no watches available on the store at the moment.
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So I am in the market for a new smartwatch/fitness band and I am intrigued but not sold on the Ticwatch E/S. They seem like quality devices at an affordable price, but I'm not sure they check all the boxes for me.
What I want is to run with my strava app without my phone, meaning leave my phone at the house. I also like to listen to podcasts and music while I run meaning I need some onboard storage. I also need the sensors (gps, gyro, heartrate etc..) to be fairly accurate and decent battery life 2-3 days would be awesome!
Does anyone have a good recommendation? Also what are the odds we will see a Pixel Wear device at Google I/O? I have a google store credit, but there are no watches available on the store at the moment.
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I run with my Urbane 2 all the time. There is a spreadsheet over on Reddit that lists info for all AW watches. A lot of active users as well that could answer about the Ticwatch in the AndroidWear subreddit.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...3bkyp1UzT0S5Iahy3W9dAQf_sfc/edit?usp=drivesdk

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