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Hey,
Does anyone here have the USB adapter for their Samsung Tab 10.1? Can you connect a USB hub to it (maybe a powered USB hub)?
I take lots of full resolution photos, and would like to use the Tab to transfer data from SD card to portable USB hard drive.
What I want to avoid is having to first copy the SD card contents to the Tablet, then connect the tablet to the portable HD to unload the photos. That seems like unnecessary wear/tear on the flash memory.
If the USB host on the Tab 10.1 can handle a hub, then I can connect both the SD card and portable HD at the same time...hopefully the Tab would make use of it's RAM (the 1GB spec) to transfer chunks of data at a time, without resorting to using the internal Flash memory.
Am I right about that? The Android OS doesn't use the flash memory as a page file for working memory the way desktop computers do with drives?
bump - hoping someone can answer. Thanks.
There is a thread in development about a homemade usb adapter, and it works successfully with a hub. The samsung adapter isn't available yet, but should work the same
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pokey9000 figured out how to force the unit in host mode. All you need to do is put 20ohms of resistance (easiest way with two 10Ohm resisters in series) between pins 13 and 15.
He also tested using a powered hub and was able to connect to multiple items at once. A regular hub might work for a few thing that are low powered but if you plan to have two hard drives, it better be powered.
has anyone found a usb to sd card adapter for multiple sd cards?
Did you ever figure this out? I want to do the same thing.
Hi people,
I read in a review that you can connect an external hard drive to the nexus 7 (the usb powered ones) via a USB Host Cable.
Could any of you tell me if this is correct or not? As i have an Archos 80 g9 and i know it cant do it off the micro usb only the USB 2.0 slot it has.
Thanks a lot for the help
Regards
Kurpter
Yes, it is possible but you may need to provide external power to the drive. Use a powered usb hub or something like that. The Nexus 7 most likely won't be able to output enough current to power a spinning drive.
Ah ok, so you are saying that you plug the usb host connection from the nexus to the usb hub and plug the hard drive in to another port on the hub?
I just want to know if this works as 16GB isnt much space when you want to take it on a trap to watch films.
cheers
you need to be rooted. my understanding is flash drives or micro sdcards are good to go, not sure an external hd will work unless powered as previous poster alluded
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Since N7's have been out for a few days, has anyone tried hooking up a portable hdd using a micro otg cable? I could plug my portable Toshiba hdd into my Acer A500 tablet without rooting and it would read the contents of the drive just fine. I would watch movies and view pictures as if it were an sd card. Wondered if the N7 unrooted could do the same?
ezzkmo said:
Since N7's have been out for a few days, has anyone tried hooking up a portable hdd using a micro otg cable? I could plug my portable Toshiba hdd into my Acer A500 tablet without rooting and it would read the contents of the drive just fine. I would watch movies and view pictures as if it were an sd card. Wondered if the N7 unrooted could do the same?
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No it does not mount the external storage nor does it have an option to do so. You need to root and install chainfire's stickmount app for this to work.
clockcycle said:
No it does not mount the external storage nor does it have an option to do so. You need to root and install chainfire's stickmount app for this to work.
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Yes, root and stickmount. Does anyone need me to test an external hard drive? I can if you guys want.
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I use a Seagate Wireless Drive
kurpter said:
Hi people,
I read in a review that you can connect an external hard drive to the nexus 7 (the usb powered ones) via a USB Host Cable.
Could any of you tell me if this is correct or not? As i have an Archos 80 g9 and i know it cant do it off the micro usb only the USB 2.0 slot it has.
Thanks a lot for the help
Regards
Kurpter
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Hi. I decided to use a wireless drive to store all of my music, movies and documents. So, I purchased the Seagate GoFlex Satellite Mobile Wireless Storage. You can use with Android or IOS devices. I love it.
Yes, its a no-go out-of-the box connecting to a USB thumb drive or a powered HD with a microUSB OTG cable. This doesn't really surprise me, though, because they would need to dynamically detect the device type and mount it on the system. What I haven't tried is a USB keyboard. Anybody do that?
wiithepeng said:
Yes, root and stickmount. Does anyone need me to test an external hard drive? I can if you guys want.
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yes could u test it out? i was thinking of buying a portable hard drive but not sure if it will have enough power to use it
does usb 3.0 work? or do i need to buy a usb 2.0
I've tested mine with an old 60GB WD Passport and a new 500GB Freecom XXS. Both are 2.5" USB powered external HDDs, and both worked fine.
chris100575 said:
I've tested mine with an old 60GB WD Passport and a new 500GB Freecom XXS. Both are 2.5" USB powered external HDDs, and both worked fine.
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great thanks for the info. btw is the new one using usb 3.0 or 2.0? do u know if usb 3.0 will work?
I just plugged in a full-sized USB keyboard using my OTG cable and it works fine. I can touch type, use the cursor keys including ctrl+arrows to skip words, bring up menus with the context menu key just to the left of the right-hand ctrl key, etc, etc. I'm sure it must be using up my battery at a faster rate, though.
Edit: It's just occurred to me that there's a problem with using a USB keyboard to type when the N7 is in portrait mode: finding a stand to hold the tablet upright at the right angle when the USB-OTG cable is sticking out of the USB port at the bottom of the tablet.
Mind you, it's great being able to type at full speed without a soft keyboard hiding a large chunk of the screen.
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garryknight said:
Edit: It's just occurred to me that there's a problem with using a USB keyboard to type when the N7 is in portrait mode: finding a stand to hold the tablet upright at the right angle when the USB-OTG cable is sticking out of the USB port at the bottom of the tablet.
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You can get OTG cables with a right angled micro-USB plug on them, which might help your stand problem. I have one on its way as I was concerned about knocking/bending/snapping the straight plug when its sat on my lap in portrait mode.
Edit: It's just occurred to me that there's a problem with using a USB keyboard to type when the N7 is in portrait mode: finding a stand to hold the tablet upright at the right angle when the USB-OTG cable is sticking out of the USB port at the bottom of the tablet.
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Or, just turn the tablet upside down so the cable is pointing up. The display will rotate appropriately.
I think but not sure that you'll want cm10 for the rotate from any angle thing...
chris100575 said:
I've tested mine with an old 60GB WD Passport and a new 500GB Freecom XXS. Both are 2.5" USB powered external HDDs, and both worked fine.
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how did you manage it ??did you use nexus media importer
Without a custom kernel, the external hdd won't work with Stickmount or NMI if it is formatted NTFS. I haven't actually used NMI, but others have posted about the NTFS issue.
I've been having trouble trying to root my Xoom so I can connect a camera and hard drive for when I'm off travelling next month.
Then I found an Android app called 'Nexus Media Importer', it was $3.00.
I have an OTG cable, and as soon as I plugged in my Imation 1TB external drive, it found it, the same with my camera.
So I can now play movies on my Xoom straight off the HDD.
Although the Xoom powers the HDD, I'm going to buy a powered USB hub to plug into the OTG.
deanbilly said:
I've been having trouble trying to root my Xoom so I can connect a camera and hard drive for when I'm off travelling next month.
Then I found an Android app called 'Nexus Media Importer', it was $3.00.
I have an OTG cable, and as soon as I plugged in my Imation 1TB external drive, it found it, the same with my camera.
So I can now play movies on my Xoom straight off the HDD.
Although the Xoom powers the HDD, I'm going to buy a powered USB hub to plug into the OTG.
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Hey,
Can you copy-paste this files over from hdd to xoom?
EOS4 lets me do that - Its handy with pendrives and hdds
I've used a SONY GoogleTV (with Bluray) to play media files (mkv, avi, mp4, etc) through ViMu app. Two 128 GB thumb drives stayed connected to the USB ports in the back of the unit at all times for kids' movies, while I utilized the front USB port once in a while to connect a WD 1TB portable external HD to watch movies.
Now, we moved to FireTV and I’d like to carry over the same setup through XBMC and StickMount. Obviously, having only 1 USB port limits this. I tried connecting a USB hub (non-powered, “mobile”); although the thumb drive worked fine, the external HD wasn’t powered. Looks like I’ll need a powered USB hub to be able to connect what I listed above.
Is there a particular one that works better with the FireTV?
Can StickMount handle mounting 2-3 USB drives and an external hard drive simultaneously? When it's time to unmount the external HD, will I be able to pick that specifically or "unmount" will get rid of thumb drives as well?
Thanks!
tenderidol said:
I've used a SONY GoogleTV (with Bluray) to play media files (mkv, avi, mp4, etc) through ViMu app. Two 128 GB thumb drives stayed connected to the USB ports in the back of the unit at all times for kids' movies, while I utilized the front USB port once in a while to connect a WD 1TB portable external HD to watch movies.
Now, we moved to FireTV and I’d like to carry over the same setup through XBMC and StickMount. Obviously, having only 1 USB port limits this. I tried connecting a USB hub (non-powered, “mobile”); although the thumb drive worked fine, the external HD wasn’t powered. Looks like I’ll need a powered USB hub to be able to connect what I listed above.
Is there a particular one that works better with the FireTV?
Can StickMount handle mounting 2-3 USB drives and an external hard drive simultaneously? When it's time to unmount the external HD, will I be able to pick that specifically or "unmount" will get rid of thumb drives as well?
Thanks!
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i have bought a USB 3.0 mains powered hub (4 ports) so will let you know later how it goes with 3 portable 1TB HDDs attached.
DEREKTROTTER said:
i have bought a USB 3.0 mains powered hub (4 ports) so will let you know later how it goes with 3 portable 1TB HDDs attached.
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Thanks. Did it work?
tenderidol said:
Thanks. Did it work?
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hi,
yes it is working perfectly.
here is what i bought: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131220799541
I have tested it with 3 HDD's attached
> 1TB portable (FAT32 formatted)
> 1TB portable (NTFS formatted)
> 2TB portable (NTFS formatted)
All plugged in at once and i could navigate them fully and play files. I tested a 7GB MKV on each and all played perfectly.
1 Downside:
The Amazon Fire TV fails to boot if the powered USB is plugged in on startup (hangs at amazon white logo)
I have heard someone else mention this also, would love a solution to this as they will then get mounted by stickmount automatically.
Currently got to boot without USB hub > connect hub > mount via stickmount.
Hope this helps
DEREKTROTTER said:
1 Downside:
The Amazon Fire TV fails to boot if the powered USB is plugged in on startup (hangs at amazon white logo)
I have heard someone else mention this also, would love a solution to this as they will then get mounted by stickmount automatically.
Currently got to boot without USB hub > connect hub > mount via stickmount.
Hope this helps
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I don't use stickmount ([url="http://www.jocala.com/adbfire.html]adbFire[/url] uses its own disk mounting solution), but my powered Dlink hub does not interfere with the FireTV boot up. That's with 3 drives attached.
DEREKTROTTER said:
hi,
yes it is working perfectly.
here is what i bought: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131220799541
I have tested it with 3 HDD's attached
> 1TB portable (FAT32 formatted)
> 1TB portable (NTFS formatted)
> 2TB portable (NTFS formatted)
All plugged in at once and i could navigate them fully and play files. I tested a 7GB MKV on each and all played perfectly.
1 Downside:
The Amazon Fire TV fails to boot if the powered USB is plugged in on startup (hangs at amazon white logo)
I have heard someone else mention this also, would love a solution to this as they will then get mounted by stickmount automatically.
Currently got to boot without USB hub > connect hub > mount via stickmount.
Hope this helps
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Thanks for the update. I suspected it will do that. I have the same problem when I want to boot from a powered hub. I can boot from the ssd plugged in directly in the aftv usb port, but not via hub.
The problem is I cannot plug in any other usb device like a keyboard or mouse or even my usb receiver. It's a pity the aftv does not allow any other bluetooth keyboard or mouse connected to it.
Maybe one of the guys can look into it to get a drive to be booted from a powered usb hub
jocala said:
I don't use stickmount ([url="http://www.jocala.com/adbfire.html]adbFire[/url] uses its own disk mounting solution), but my powered Dlink hub does not interfere with the FireTV boot up. That's with 3 drives attached.
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can you link me to the hub you have? would like something i can keep plugged in and will boot up.
Also with the adbfire method, you still have to mount on every reboot with it right?
DEREKTROTTER said:
hi,
yes it is working perfectly.
here is what i bought: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131220799541
I have tested it with 3 HDD's attached
> 1TB portable (FAT32 formatted)
> 1TB portable (NTFS formatted)
> 2TB portable (NTFS formatted)
All plugged in at once and i could navigate them fully and play files. I tested a 7GB MKV on each and all played perfectly.
1 Downside:
The Amazon Fire TV fails to boot if the powered USB is plugged in on startup (hangs at amazon white logo)
I have heard someone else mention this also, would love a solution to this as they will then get mounted by stickmount automatically.
Currently got to boot without USB hub > connect hub > mount via stickmount.
Hope this helps
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I don't have this problem. Using a Belkin 4 port USB 2 hub, but I only have one HD attached.
jmerrilljr2 said:
I don't have this problem. Using a Belkin 4 port USB 2 hub, but I only have one HD attached.
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is that usb powered though? or mains powered
usb powered doesn't handle my 2tb HDD very well, but fine for flash drives.
DEREKTROTTER said:
is that usb powered though? or mains powered
usb powered doesn't handle my 2tb HDD very well, but fine for flash drives.
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Yes, it's powered. Running LaCie Rugged Mini 500gb.
DEREKTROTTER said:
can you link me to the hub you have? would like something i can keep plugged in and will boot up.
Also with the adbfire method, you still have to mount on every reboot with it right?
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No. You can set your boot as persistent so you don't have to remount.
My Dlink is a few years old. I don't see it listed, only newer models.
jocala said:
No. You can set your boot as persistent so you don't have to remount.
My Dlink is a few years old. I don't see it listed, only newer models.
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Thanks for your reply. Could you please provide the details of the adb mount method? Apologies, if it's a basic question... still new to AFTV.
I purchased a powered USB 2.0 hub to test things out. The connected USB sticks and the WD portable HD work great with the hub. Using StickMount, they're loaded at the time of boot, and when I pick Unmount to remove the WD HD, upon pulling the USB cable of the HD, USB sticks remain mounted (don't need to hit mount again).
With this particular powered hub FireTV boots fine when it's connected; seems like certain powered hubs block the boot sequence. I tried the boot sequence with just the USB sticks and USB sticks + WD HD, and it booted fine each time.
The only issue I have is that when I "map" the external drives, I give them names and they're listed under video sources. Unfortunately, StickMount doesn't load them in the same order every time, and the shortcuts point to invalid paths when there are more than one USB sources attached. I can create a root "USB" shortcut that lists all the sources and I can navigate to each drive, but that makes the process complicated for grandparents and kids. If there's a more "permanent" way to mount the attached drives (adb may be?), I'd like to try that.
Thanks!
tenderidol said:
Thanks for your reply. Could you please provide the details of the adb mount method? Apologies, if it's a basic question... still new to AFTV.
I purchased a powered USB 2.0 hub to test things out. The connected USB sticks and the WD portable HD work great with the hub. Using StickMount, they're loaded at the time of boot, and when I pick Unmount to remove the WD HD, upon pulling the USB cable of the HD, USB sticks remain mounted (don't need to hit mount again).
With this particular powered hub FireTV boots fine when it's connected; seems like certain powered hubs block the boot sequence. I tried the boot sequence with just the USB sticks and USB sticks + WD HD, and it booted fine each time.
The only issue I have is that when I "map" the external drives, I give them names and they're listed under video sources. Unfortunately, StickMount doesn't load them in the same order every time, and the shortcuts point to invalid paths when there are more than one USB sources attached. I can create a root "USB" shortcut that lists all the sources and I can navigate to each drive, but that makes the process complicated for grandparents and kids. If there's a more "permanent" way to mount the attached drives (adb may be?), I'd like to try that.
Thanks!
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adbFire provides two different ways to mount your drives and sticks: standard, by device name (/dev/block/sda1, etc) and by the drive's UUID, a unique identifier that each drive stick is given when formatted. Mounting by UUID guarantees that each drive is always mounted at the same mount point.
adbFire creates a script that is automatically run at boot to mount your drives. It uses the busybox run-parts command to run scripts which it places in /etc/init.d. It handles drives formatted with EXT?, ExFat, NTFS and VFAT. UUID is a work in progress, just introduced in the current version, v1.14.
adbFire has a topic here in the xda Fire TV forum. Feel free to ask further questions there.
just EXT?
so atm i cant mount my NTFS and FAT32 drives with that method?
DEREKTROTTER said:
just EXT?
so atm i cant mount my NTFS and FAT32 drives with that method?
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Look again. EXT2/3/4 NTFS,ExFAT and VFAT.
In my case I only have my external usb 3 ssd that I connect., which means there is no need to give it any priority. I have moved all the AFTV storage to the ssd and boot up from it. All I need is a usb 3 hub that is compatible with the external to boot my AFTV up. I can then connect anything else to the usb hub.
So frustrated, got a powered usb hub and connected 2TB HDD and its turned out a fail. XBMC freezes up / stickmount takes forever and sometimes not at all.
Got the fire tv mainly to play back my movie collection but seems it wont be done so easily.
I exchanged the 4 port hub with a 7 port hub and filled up all the ports with USB sticks and hard drives. FireTV boots while the hub and all the drives are connected, and everything works fine. If you don't need a USB 3.0 hub for other things down the road, you might want to give this one a try.
tenderidol said:
I exchanged the 4 port hub with a 7 port hub and filled up all the ports with USB sticks and hard drives. FireTV boots while the hub and all the drives are connected, and everything works fine. If you don't need a USB 3.0 hub for other things down the road, you might want to give this one a try.
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Thanks for the links... Will keep an eye out for them for BlackFriday. Since I am on the market for 3 ( 3 FTV's ). I was leaning on getting 3 Transcend TS-HUB3K Powered USB 3.0 - 4 Port Hub's But is not like the AFTV's will ever need USB 3.0. The price on the 7 port hub should cut my per unit price by half after coupons... Wonder how low can they go..
has anyone used a powered HDD with the fire tv directly? e.g a 4TB seagate
i would assume they would not need a powered hubbut not sure
Really frustrated as i have 2 portable HDD and both experience freezing and buffering with movie playback from them. I sometimes have to reboot the AFTV just to stop the freezing. I got a fire TV to replace a WD HDTV live as i was getting freezing on there and it seems to be still happening :/
Please post here the HDDs you use that play files perfectly.
Thanks
Ok guys. I've been messing around for some long time using 4.3 rom and my 2tb passport but with no luck reading (or writing from it). I was under impression that phone has to be rooted for reading only NTFS format but....this is fairy tales if you ask me. Recently I upgraded to latest kitekat available and rooted but still no access to my drive. I tried 3 usb sticks (8,16,64) with no problem using FAT format.
I used paragon, stickmount but nothing helped me to work this out. I'm also having second doubt would I have more luck with exFAT format?
Anyone had similar problems connecting 2tb drive to their Note 3? And disk is spinning I'm positive it has enough usb power.
The phone can only support up to 1tb due to power restriction.
The only way that i managed to get a WD 2Tb drive to work with my phone/tablet was to use a powerbank. The phone doesn't give enough power out to start the drive up.
You need :
- 1 powerbank (the bigger the better, as it will also charge your phone/tablet)
- 1 USB Hub + OTG cable (or an USB Hub that can be used as OTG with the phone)
- 1 male-to-male cable
- the phone
- the external HDD
Connect to the USB hub the HDD using the cable suplied with it, connect using the male-to-male cable the powerbank to the USB hub and then connect the USB hub to the phone using the OTG cable (or if you have an OTG cable with USB hub integrated then it's even better).
Now, the powerbank will give power to all devices connected to the USB hub (the HDD and the phone), so it should work OK.
After that you will need to solve the NTFS reading/writing, for that you should be able to use the app you already mentioned.
P.S. when i was playing on the Tab2 with the above configuration, I also had to put an usb stick in the USB hub. For some reason the tablet didn't detect the HDD on the hub unless there was an USB stick too (never understood why). I don't remember having the same problem with the Note3, but i didn't test extensively so your mileage may vary.
Edit : an example of OTG adapter with integrated USB hub for Note 3 : http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB3-...-TF-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-3-N9000-/171300593212
Thanks for reply verszipo I was looking at this cable, hoping this could power up the drive while phone continues to operate itself without additional power. So Is it possible to have power supplied directly over wall plug instead of power bank?
This USB hub seams like nice idea.
Theoretically connecting like you suggested should work even if I leave disk in NTFS format using tools I mentioned before?
elektroda said:
Thanks for reply verszipo I was looking at this cable, hoping this could power up the drive while phone continues to operate itself without additional power. So Is it possible to have power supplied directly over wall plug instead of power bank?
This USB hub seams like nice idea.
Theoretically connecting like you suggested should work even if I leave disk in NTFS format using tools I mentioned before?
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If external hdd is larger than 1 TB,
Use usb "Y" cable to add external power source to connection.
Hey!
I use 1.5TB HDD with mu N3 and it is NTFS...
Why cant you use USB hub with external power supply (try to find out if it is 1A or 2A? bigger = better), and at phone install total commander with plugin USB plugin for Total Commander (no root requided!!)...
I use a 2tb wd passport. No need for external power source. I use paragon to read and write to ntfs partition. My drive gets detected within a few seconds but takes several minutes to mount the drive. Maybe you just need to wait. I know my drive is mounted when the My Files app launches by itself and shows the drive contents.
I received my Y cable hoping extra juice could solve my problems but I have no luck at all. No matter what I use I can't make my drive read. I don't have any options to choose.
Maybe I should format my drive using different allocation size unit, I never formated it and it's not 4 months old. Maybe my phone has some crappy cache leftovers so I should use cleaner? Hell I don't know what to do anymore. Usb sticks are working fine all the way.
Ok update on topic. I mange to make it work. I formated to NTFS with default allocation size, nothing special. Using paragon + total commander plugin + total commander. Works fine now WITHOUT additional power. Only downside is that mobile battery drains way too fast when you connect storage on it. It does not matter if I plug in additional supply to drive or not, draining is the same. Anyone noticed this and any workaround for this.
Thank you guys for suggestions.
I mounted my CN memory usb3.0 3tb drive with paragon in my rooted sm n9005
It mounted fine to a folder in my int SD, and i copied ober 20gb of data