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I've been considering purchasing a WD portable harddrive for watching movies with my Tab 10.1. I haven't got my hands on a USB connector yet, so I'm not sure if this functionality is built into HC or a file manager. Just curious if anyone has had success with this; and if so, are you able to watch movies off the harddrive?
Thanks!
*BUMP* - OK, so no one has attached a portable 1tb harddrive full of blu-rays converted to MP4 (this would have been my first priority had I been able to purchase the usb connector... lil' bag + tablet + HardDrive + XBox controller = short flight)
What about using the usb connector thats included with a female-to-female usb adapter to access an external HD or use a XBox controller? I'll probably get an adapter later this week and let you all know if this is plausible/possible.
~Wizz
My boss tried using the gender changing USB adapter with no luck. It won't power the device through the USB. Maybe if the hard drive w as externally powered it would work?
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AFAIK the USB adaptor isn't available yet
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I'm looking for a...
>very portable external hd
>that has 320GB to 1TB
>that can be connected to the NookColor (which means that it has a micro usb cable or a mini usb to micro usb adapter)
>and can be mounted/navigated using the NookColor's File Manager Apps (Astro/Root Explorer/File Expert/ES File Explorer etc.)
Is it possible or am I dreaming?
You are not dreaming. The requirements are as follows:
Purchase a micro usg to usb(female) adapter. These can be found through amazon, where I got mine) or ebay. About $3.50
Be running cm7 (I am running 7.1 rc1 n144) and have nook tweeks installed.
Find an external hard drive with its own power supply. Usb will not power the drive through the nook.
I run flash drives and sd cards through a powered hub and have connected an old passport external hard drive (the ones with the external power supply) and a maxtor hard drive (I believe they called them book drives) which had an external power source.
Dal, Verygreen, and the rest of the excellent devs here have taken a little e reader and developed a 7" tablet that can rival almost any tab on the market at this time. Buy your adapter, a powered usb hub, and start playing with the usb host mode in nook tweeks. You're gonna love it.
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Will the USB thumbdrive work?
Yes thumbdrives work very well using the hub. I have 9 thumbdrives from 2-8 gb sandisk,sandisk cruzers,pny. It reads them all with no issues.
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Thought I would post a pic of my system. The stand is a griffin. A belkin powered hub, and a logitech bluetooth keyboard, logitech usb mouse.
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Could a webcam run off of that too?
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Good luck with the webcam. I have tried 2 cams; a logitech quick cam pro and a MI el chepo cam. Checking dmesg, both cams were recognized and assigned an IRQ but the software does not know what to do with them. I have tried ooVoo, tango, skipe, and yahoo messenger video plugin. The cam is not recognized by any of the programs. So far, that is the only issue I have had with host mode. Hopefully, the devs will come up with a way to get cams to work but, for now, I am content. I can connect my Nikon camera to the nook and dump my pictures directly to the gallery for review and editing or copy them to a flash drive for storage. There are new uses for this nook every day.
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>very portable external hd
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I don't think the Nook will power an external hard drive via the USB port, so you'll lose a lot of the portability you're looking for by having to drag around an external power supply.
Moshe5368 said:
You are not dreaming. The requirements are as follows:
Purchase a micro usg to usb(female) adapter. These can be found through amazon, where I got mine) or ebay. About $3.50
Be running cm7 (I am running 7.1 rc1 n144) and have nook tweeks installed.
Find an external hard drive with its own power supply. Usb will not power the drive through the nook.
I run flash drives and sd cards through a powered hub and have connected an old passport external hard drive (the ones with the external power supply) and a maxtor hard drive (I believe they called them book drives) which had an external power source.
Dal, Verygreen, and the rest of the excellent devs here have taken a little e reader and developed a 7" tablet that can rival almost any tab on the market at this time. Buy your adapter, a powered usb hub, and start playing with the usb host mode in nook tweeks. You're gonna love it.
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Do you think you can recommend one or at least link me into a site that has one? Preferrably a 1TB, and is very portable (small). I'm trying to do my own research but it's hard to find an external HD that requires external power supply. All of the HD's I've seen so far is getting it's power from the USB itself...
Moshe5368 said:
Thought I would post a pic of my system. The stand is a griffin. A belkin powered hub, and a logitech bluetooth keyboard, logitech usb mouse.
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that second picture looks like it has some different components from the first. I really like that setup far better than the first picture, could you either post or PM me all of its components?
I believe using a powered hub with any hard drive will work. Also I have a USB hub with a micro usb input, that could be used with a mini-b to micro-b cable. I think that would cut down the clutter.
Here are a few of the components I have been using for usb host mode. As previously posted, yes, a powered hub should work with one of the new compact hard drives.
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Hi people,
I read in a review that you can connect an external hard drive to the nexus 7 (the usb powered ones) via a USB Host Cable.
Could any of you tell me if this is correct or not? As i have an Archos 80 g9 and i know it cant do it off the micro usb only the USB 2.0 slot it has.
Thanks a lot for the help
Regards
Kurpter
Yes, it is possible but you may need to provide external power to the drive. Use a powered usb hub or something like that. The Nexus 7 most likely won't be able to output enough current to power a spinning drive.
Ah ok, so you are saying that you plug the usb host connection from the nexus to the usb hub and plug the hard drive in to another port on the hub?
I just want to know if this works as 16GB isnt much space when you want to take it on a trap to watch films.
cheers
you need to be rooted. my understanding is flash drives or micro sdcards are good to go, not sure an external hd will work unless powered as previous poster alluded
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Since N7's have been out for a few days, has anyone tried hooking up a portable hdd using a micro otg cable? I could plug my portable Toshiba hdd into my Acer A500 tablet without rooting and it would read the contents of the drive just fine. I would watch movies and view pictures as if it were an sd card. Wondered if the N7 unrooted could do the same?
ezzkmo said:
Since N7's have been out for a few days, has anyone tried hooking up a portable hdd using a micro otg cable? I could plug my portable Toshiba hdd into my Acer A500 tablet without rooting and it would read the contents of the drive just fine. I would watch movies and view pictures as if it were an sd card. Wondered if the N7 unrooted could do the same?
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No it does not mount the external storage nor does it have an option to do so. You need to root and install chainfire's stickmount app for this to work.
clockcycle said:
No it does not mount the external storage nor does it have an option to do so. You need to root and install chainfire's stickmount app for this to work.
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Yes, root and stickmount. Does anyone need me to test an external hard drive? I can if you guys want.
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I use a Seagate Wireless Drive
kurpter said:
Hi people,
I read in a review that you can connect an external hard drive to the nexus 7 (the usb powered ones) via a USB Host Cable.
Could any of you tell me if this is correct or not? As i have an Archos 80 g9 and i know it cant do it off the micro usb only the USB 2.0 slot it has.
Thanks a lot for the help
Regards
Kurpter
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Hi. I decided to use a wireless drive to store all of my music, movies and documents. So, I purchased the Seagate GoFlex Satellite Mobile Wireless Storage. You can use with Android or IOS devices. I love it.
Yes, its a no-go out-of-the box connecting to a USB thumb drive or a powered HD with a microUSB OTG cable. This doesn't really surprise me, though, because they would need to dynamically detect the device type and mount it on the system. What I haven't tried is a USB keyboard. Anybody do that?
wiithepeng said:
Yes, root and stickmount. Does anyone need me to test an external hard drive? I can if you guys want.
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yes could u test it out? i was thinking of buying a portable hard drive but not sure if it will have enough power to use it
does usb 3.0 work? or do i need to buy a usb 2.0
I've tested mine with an old 60GB WD Passport and a new 500GB Freecom XXS. Both are 2.5" USB powered external HDDs, and both worked fine.
chris100575 said:
I've tested mine with an old 60GB WD Passport and a new 500GB Freecom XXS. Both are 2.5" USB powered external HDDs, and both worked fine.
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great thanks for the info. btw is the new one using usb 3.0 or 2.0? do u know if usb 3.0 will work?
I just plugged in a full-sized USB keyboard using my OTG cable and it works fine. I can touch type, use the cursor keys including ctrl+arrows to skip words, bring up menus with the context menu key just to the left of the right-hand ctrl key, etc, etc. I'm sure it must be using up my battery at a faster rate, though.
Edit: It's just occurred to me that there's a problem with using a USB keyboard to type when the N7 is in portrait mode: finding a stand to hold the tablet upright at the right angle when the USB-OTG cable is sticking out of the USB port at the bottom of the tablet.
Mind you, it's great being able to type at full speed without a soft keyboard hiding a large chunk of the screen.
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garryknight said:
Edit: It's just occurred to me that there's a problem with using a USB keyboard to type when the N7 is in portrait mode: finding a stand to hold the tablet upright at the right angle when the USB-OTG cable is sticking out of the USB port at the bottom of the tablet.
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You can get OTG cables with a right angled micro-USB plug on them, which might help your stand problem. I have one on its way as I was concerned about knocking/bending/snapping the straight plug when its sat on my lap in portrait mode.
Edit: It's just occurred to me that there's a problem with using a USB keyboard to type when the N7 is in portrait mode: finding a stand to hold the tablet upright at the right angle when the USB-OTG cable is sticking out of the USB port at the bottom of the tablet.
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Or, just turn the tablet upside down so the cable is pointing up. The display will rotate appropriately.
I think but not sure that you'll want cm10 for the rotate from any angle thing...
chris100575 said:
I've tested mine with an old 60GB WD Passport and a new 500GB Freecom XXS. Both are 2.5" USB powered external HDDs, and both worked fine.
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how did you manage it ??did you use nexus media importer
Without a custom kernel, the external hdd won't work with Stickmount or NMI if it is formatted NTFS. I haven't actually used NMI, but others have posted about the NTFS issue.
I know I should likely be asking in the Accessories sub-forum, but I'll give it a shot here since it's the Q&A section. I missed out on all the usb > otg cable threads, including the ones that specify which work best/which don't work or don't work at all.
With that said, my only need for otg > usb on my Nexus is to access my 1TB My PassPort external, or my 32GB Cruzer Glide to watch my HD/720p anime via Dice Player or MX Player as the anime itself will quickly clog up the space on my Nexus. That and read eBooks off one of my many usb sticks.
So I'm looking for recommendations/suggestions on which otg > usb to purchase. Can be from eBay/Amazon/etc. as long as it does the job.
I just bought one from Amazon for £2, will update you when it arrives but I don't think it matters much which one you get as long as it is an OTG cable. I just searched for "Nexus 7 OTG cable" on Amazon and picked the cheapest one. One thing I do know though is that your external hard-drive may not work as it won't get enough power from the Nexus 7, so that would need an external power source if it has the capability, as far as I know though the USB flash-drive should work fine. You also need the Nexus 7 Media Importer from the Play Store to pick up media from over USB.
Once you have a compatible OTGusb adapter I recommend you get the Stickmount app. While in the Play store getting Stickmount, note the available drivers for NTFS file systems in the Stickmount description and download them and install following the instructions. You will need those drivers for your PassPort (most likely formatted NTFS). You will also likely need a separate power supply for the Passport. I use a cable that came with my external portable dvd drive that has two usb connectors to one micro-usb. One usb to the OTG cable, one usb to power supply, micro-usb to N7. I can read/write/stream to and from my 750Gb Passport external.
I've used a SONY GoogleTV (with Bluray) to play media files (mkv, avi, mp4, etc) through ViMu app. Two 128 GB thumb drives stayed connected to the USB ports in the back of the unit at all times for kids' movies, while I utilized the front USB port once in a while to connect a WD 1TB portable external HD to watch movies.
Now, we moved to FireTV and I’d like to carry over the same setup through XBMC and StickMount. Obviously, having only 1 USB port limits this. I tried connecting a USB hub (non-powered, “mobile”); although the thumb drive worked fine, the external HD wasn’t powered. Looks like I’ll need a powered USB hub to be able to connect what I listed above.
Is there a particular one that works better with the FireTV?
Can StickMount handle mounting 2-3 USB drives and an external hard drive simultaneously? When it's time to unmount the external HD, will I be able to pick that specifically or "unmount" will get rid of thumb drives as well?
Thanks!
tenderidol said:
I've used a SONY GoogleTV (with Bluray) to play media files (mkv, avi, mp4, etc) through ViMu app. Two 128 GB thumb drives stayed connected to the USB ports in the back of the unit at all times for kids' movies, while I utilized the front USB port once in a while to connect a WD 1TB portable external HD to watch movies.
Now, we moved to FireTV and I’d like to carry over the same setup through XBMC and StickMount. Obviously, having only 1 USB port limits this. I tried connecting a USB hub (non-powered, “mobile”); although the thumb drive worked fine, the external HD wasn’t powered. Looks like I’ll need a powered USB hub to be able to connect what I listed above.
Is there a particular one that works better with the FireTV?
Can StickMount handle mounting 2-3 USB drives and an external hard drive simultaneously? When it's time to unmount the external HD, will I be able to pick that specifically or "unmount" will get rid of thumb drives as well?
Thanks!
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i have bought a USB 3.0 mains powered hub (4 ports) so will let you know later how it goes with 3 portable 1TB HDDs attached.
DEREKTROTTER said:
i have bought a USB 3.0 mains powered hub (4 ports) so will let you know later how it goes with 3 portable 1TB HDDs attached.
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Thanks. Did it work?
tenderidol said:
Thanks. Did it work?
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hi,
yes it is working perfectly.
here is what i bought: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131220799541
I have tested it with 3 HDD's attached
> 1TB portable (FAT32 formatted)
> 1TB portable (NTFS formatted)
> 2TB portable (NTFS formatted)
All plugged in at once and i could navigate them fully and play files. I tested a 7GB MKV on each and all played perfectly.
1 Downside:
The Amazon Fire TV fails to boot if the powered USB is plugged in on startup (hangs at amazon white logo)
I have heard someone else mention this also, would love a solution to this as they will then get mounted by stickmount automatically.
Currently got to boot without USB hub > connect hub > mount via stickmount.
Hope this helps
DEREKTROTTER said:
1 Downside:
The Amazon Fire TV fails to boot if the powered USB is plugged in on startup (hangs at amazon white logo)
I have heard someone else mention this also, would love a solution to this as they will then get mounted by stickmount automatically.
Currently got to boot without USB hub > connect hub > mount via stickmount.
Hope this helps
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I don't use stickmount ([url="http://www.jocala.com/adbfire.html]adbFire[/url] uses its own disk mounting solution), but my powered Dlink hub does not interfere with the FireTV boot up. That's with 3 drives attached.
DEREKTROTTER said:
hi,
yes it is working perfectly.
here is what i bought: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131220799541
I have tested it with 3 HDD's attached
> 1TB portable (FAT32 formatted)
> 1TB portable (NTFS formatted)
> 2TB portable (NTFS formatted)
All plugged in at once and i could navigate them fully and play files. I tested a 7GB MKV on each and all played perfectly.
1 Downside:
The Amazon Fire TV fails to boot if the powered USB is plugged in on startup (hangs at amazon white logo)
I have heard someone else mention this also, would love a solution to this as they will then get mounted by stickmount automatically.
Currently got to boot without USB hub > connect hub > mount via stickmount.
Hope this helps
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Thanks for the update. I suspected it will do that. I have the same problem when I want to boot from a powered hub. I can boot from the ssd plugged in directly in the aftv usb port, but not via hub.
The problem is I cannot plug in any other usb device like a keyboard or mouse or even my usb receiver. It's a pity the aftv does not allow any other bluetooth keyboard or mouse connected to it.
Maybe one of the guys can look into it to get a drive to be booted from a powered usb hub
jocala said:
I don't use stickmount ([url="http://www.jocala.com/adbfire.html]adbFire[/url] uses its own disk mounting solution), but my powered Dlink hub does not interfere with the FireTV boot up. That's with 3 drives attached.
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can you link me to the hub you have? would like something i can keep plugged in and will boot up.
Also with the adbfire method, you still have to mount on every reboot with it right?
DEREKTROTTER said:
hi,
yes it is working perfectly.
here is what i bought: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131220799541
I have tested it with 3 HDD's attached
> 1TB portable (FAT32 formatted)
> 1TB portable (NTFS formatted)
> 2TB portable (NTFS formatted)
All plugged in at once and i could navigate them fully and play files. I tested a 7GB MKV on each and all played perfectly.
1 Downside:
The Amazon Fire TV fails to boot if the powered USB is plugged in on startup (hangs at amazon white logo)
I have heard someone else mention this also, would love a solution to this as they will then get mounted by stickmount automatically.
Currently got to boot without USB hub > connect hub > mount via stickmount.
Hope this helps
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I don't have this problem. Using a Belkin 4 port USB 2 hub, but I only have one HD attached.
jmerrilljr2 said:
I don't have this problem. Using a Belkin 4 port USB 2 hub, but I only have one HD attached.
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is that usb powered though? or mains powered
usb powered doesn't handle my 2tb HDD very well, but fine for flash drives.
DEREKTROTTER said:
is that usb powered though? or mains powered
usb powered doesn't handle my 2tb HDD very well, but fine for flash drives.
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Yes, it's powered. Running LaCie Rugged Mini 500gb.
DEREKTROTTER said:
can you link me to the hub you have? would like something i can keep plugged in and will boot up.
Also with the adbfire method, you still have to mount on every reboot with it right?
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No. You can set your boot as persistent so you don't have to remount.
My Dlink is a few years old. I don't see it listed, only newer models.
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No. You can set your boot as persistent so you don't have to remount.
My Dlink is a few years old. I don't see it listed, only newer models.
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Thanks for your reply. Could you please provide the details of the adb mount method? Apologies, if it's a basic question... still new to AFTV.
I purchased a powered USB 2.0 hub to test things out. The connected USB sticks and the WD portable HD work great with the hub. Using StickMount, they're loaded at the time of boot, and when I pick Unmount to remove the WD HD, upon pulling the USB cable of the HD, USB sticks remain mounted (don't need to hit mount again).
With this particular powered hub FireTV boots fine when it's connected; seems like certain powered hubs block the boot sequence. I tried the boot sequence with just the USB sticks and USB sticks + WD HD, and it booted fine each time.
The only issue I have is that when I "map" the external drives, I give them names and they're listed under video sources. Unfortunately, StickMount doesn't load them in the same order every time, and the shortcuts point to invalid paths when there are more than one USB sources attached. I can create a root "USB" shortcut that lists all the sources and I can navigate to each drive, but that makes the process complicated for grandparents and kids. If there's a more "permanent" way to mount the attached drives (adb may be?), I'd like to try that.
Thanks!
tenderidol said:
Thanks for your reply. Could you please provide the details of the adb mount method? Apologies, if it's a basic question... still new to AFTV.
I purchased a powered USB 2.0 hub to test things out. The connected USB sticks and the WD portable HD work great with the hub. Using StickMount, they're loaded at the time of boot, and when I pick Unmount to remove the WD HD, upon pulling the USB cable of the HD, USB sticks remain mounted (don't need to hit mount again).
With this particular powered hub FireTV boots fine when it's connected; seems like certain powered hubs block the boot sequence. I tried the boot sequence with just the USB sticks and USB sticks + WD HD, and it booted fine each time.
The only issue I have is that when I "map" the external drives, I give them names and they're listed under video sources. Unfortunately, StickMount doesn't load them in the same order every time, and the shortcuts point to invalid paths when there are more than one USB sources attached. I can create a root "USB" shortcut that lists all the sources and I can navigate to each drive, but that makes the process complicated for grandparents and kids. If there's a more "permanent" way to mount the attached drives (adb may be?), I'd like to try that.
Thanks!
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adbFire provides two different ways to mount your drives and sticks: standard, by device name (/dev/block/sda1, etc) and by the drive's UUID, a unique identifier that each drive stick is given when formatted. Mounting by UUID guarantees that each drive is always mounted at the same mount point.
adbFire creates a script that is automatically run at boot to mount your drives. It uses the busybox run-parts command to run scripts which it places in /etc/init.d. It handles drives formatted with EXT?, ExFat, NTFS and VFAT. UUID is a work in progress, just introduced in the current version, v1.14.
adbFire has a topic here in the xda Fire TV forum. Feel free to ask further questions there.
just EXT?
so atm i cant mount my NTFS and FAT32 drives with that method?
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just EXT?
so atm i cant mount my NTFS and FAT32 drives with that method?
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Look again. EXT2/3/4 NTFS,ExFAT and VFAT.
In my case I only have my external usb 3 ssd that I connect., which means there is no need to give it any priority. I have moved all the AFTV storage to the ssd and boot up from it. All I need is a usb 3 hub that is compatible with the external to boot my AFTV up. I can then connect anything else to the usb hub.
So frustrated, got a powered usb hub and connected 2TB HDD and its turned out a fail. XBMC freezes up / stickmount takes forever and sometimes not at all.
Got the fire tv mainly to play back my movie collection but seems it wont be done so easily.
I exchanged the 4 port hub with a 7 port hub and filled up all the ports with USB sticks and hard drives. FireTV boots while the hub and all the drives are connected, and everything works fine. If you don't need a USB 3.0 hub for other things down the road, you might want to give this one a try.
tenderidol said:
I exchanged the 4 port hub with a 7 port hub and filled up all the ports with USB sticks and hard drives. FireTV boots while the hub and all the drives are connected, and everything works fine. If you don't need a USB 3.0 hub for other things down the road, you might want to give this one a try.
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Thanks for the links... Will keep an eye out for them for BlackFriday. Since I am on the market for 3 ( 3 FTV's ). I was leaning on getting 3 Transcend TS-HUB3K Powered USB 3.0 - 4 Port Hub's But is not like the AFTV's will ever need USB 3.0. The price on the 7 port hub should cut my per unit price by half after coupons... Wonder how low can they go..
has anyone used a powered HDD with the fire tv directly? e.g a 4TB seagate
i would assume they would not need a powered hubbut not sure
Really frustrated as i have 2 portable HDD and both experience freezing and buffering with movie playback from them. I sometimes have to reboot the AFTV just to stop the freezing. I got a fire TV to replace a WD HDTV live as i was getting freezing on there and it seems to be still happening :/
Please post here the HDDs you use that play files perfectly.
Thanks