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Aren't you afraid of not getting the updates in a reasonable amount of time?

I see we're all going crazy about the specs of the Xperia Z2, but no one here appears to be concerned about how slow sony is to roll out updates, Kitkat 4.4. was released on the 31th of October, and the Xperia Z1 , sony's current flagship still hasn't got it :/ ... 4 months after the release , they plan on delivering the update on April, 5 months, maybe 5 and a half months after 4.4 was really released and they're not making any promises of improving, what do you guys think?

That's definitely a concern of mine. Sony is worse than the major Android manufacturers (Motorola, HTC, Samsung, even LG is rolling out its Kitkat update) in terms of updates. One consolation is that Android updates aren't as big or crucial as they used to be since it is a pretty mature OS at this point, but I can't deny that I find Sony's update speed disappointing. I don't think it will stop me from getting the Z2, tho.

You have problems with 4.3?
It's incredible how people aren't satisfied, ever...
Wait and you'll get your KitKat...Sony is actually building their UI, it's not only cheap mask over Google framework - that's why they need time.
Wen you get KitKat you'll request another version...or you'll open thread to request root for kitkat...
Relax, you still have almost one whole year of support and everything will come and be released on time.
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I am not afraid.

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Chad_Petree said:
I see we're all going crazy about the specs of the Xperia Z2, but no one here appears to be concerned about how slow sony is to roll out updates, Kitkat 4.4. was released on the 31th of October, and the Xperia Z1 , sony's current flagship still hasn't got it :/ ... 4 months after the release , they plan on delivering the update on April, 5 months, maybe 5 and a half months after 4.4 was really released and they're not making any promises of improving, what do you guys think?
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Note On Flagships Support
It s so good If companies support their flagships for OS upgrade But there s no different between Sony or Samsung or ...
currently i m using Note3 on JB 4.3 however 4.4.2 for all variants released from Samsung But it s too slow.
If you want number of OS version you should buy nexus devices. that Google support them ~2 years (like Galaxy Nexus) with fast upgrade and release.
But If u r thinking about more functionality on ur smartphone u have to buy samsung, sony or ...
/*Companies don't think about u who bought a flagship 4-5 months ago.
*they think about who want to upgrade from old phone. so they release high-end phone every 6months to get markets. */

funky0308 said:
You have problems with 4.3?
It's incredible how people aren't satisfied, ever...
Wait and you'll get your KitKat...Sony is actually building their UI, it's not only cheap mask over Google framework - that's why they need time.
Wen you get KitKat you'll request another version...or you'll open thread to request root for kitkat...
Relax, you still have almost one whole year of support and everything will come and be released on time.
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Do you really think that getting the update 5 months later is acceptable? It's not like we're getting a new UI with sony's implementation of kitkat, we should actually , I don't understand why reasonably demanding for things, makes us a**holes, should we just keep quiet and be content with what companies give us? How do you think HTC and Motorola updated their game ? By listening the the users complain , they want our money? They'd better work for it!

Chad_Petree said:
Do you really think that getting the update 5 months later is acceptable? It's not like we're getting a new UI with sony's implementation of kitkat, we should actually , I don't understand why reasonably demanding for things, makes us a**holes, should we just keep quiet and be content with what companies give us? How do you think HTC and Motorola updated their game ? By listening the the users complain , they want our money? They'd better work for it!
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What are you really doing here - takes as is or leave it

I'm on a Nexus 5 and I love both pure Android and quicker updates. Unfortunately the lack of Hw specs (battery and microsd) will drive me to Z2 and its slowlier upgrades of sw.
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vittogn said:
I'm on a Nexus 5 and I love both pure Android and quicker updates. Unfortunately the lack of Hw specs (battery and microsd) will drive me to Z2 and its slowlier upgrades of sw.
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We're on similar situation , I can't stand the awful battery life of the nexus 5 , I don't miss the SD card at all since I have the 32 gb version and that's enough for me, what bothers me too is that the 16:9 photos are 6 MP, I would like 12-13 MP photos, I don't need 20 MP photos but I'm not complaining either Haha
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Some more thoughts on slower updates that might make your mind rest a little easier:
As someone else pointed out, if you take Samsung as an example, faster updates aren't always a good thing. Samsung devices are usually pretty well optimized for the version of Android they ship with, but when they update to a new major version of Android the performance can get substantially worse. I've noticed this with several Samsung devices. So giving a manufacturer the time to make sure everything works well on their hardware is a good thing. Keep in mind brand-new Android releases are often tailored to a subset of Android hardware in the latest Nexus devices, and hardware differences in other devices might take a while to perfect.
Also, new major versions of Android often have bad bugs. Look at Motorola who invested a lot of effort into getting 4.4 on the Moto X very soon after it was released. Unfortunately 4.4 had several major bugs including broken Exchange support! Moto X owners who upgraded were stuck with broken devices until Moto released 4.4.2 months later. So it is also good to wait for at least a couple of point releases before a manufacturer commits to a new version of Android.
Nexus devices don't have these issues because they can just keep releasing new updates quickly, but if a manufacturer's customized Android actually offers valuable improvements (which I think Sony's does) it makes sense to take a little longer.
I still wish Sony were faster, tho

I'm a bit worried. I honestly Sony would concentrate on one flagship per year, like everyone else. I'm on an XZ and am sick of trying to keep up. I'm considering my next phone now, but I can't say if the z2 is a slam dunk now. I do like the sound of the speakers though...

I've used Sony (Ericsson) phones for years. Late updates are a condition you either live with or jump ship. Sony has always been notoriously late with update releases.
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Personally not worried about getting updates late but a bit worried about not getting updates at all after a while & becoming abandoned
I mean Samsung is releasing Kitkat for GS3 which is a device from may 2012, Not sure if it's the same with Sony specially with their two flagship a year strategy

I'm not. If there is not a disturbing bug in Z2, I still use it. If the new feature that roll out from Sony and Google with an update is not necessary and attracting to me,I don't change my phone to other brand.

Who cares what OS version you got? Unless there is a bug or something, I don't care if I ever get any updates. I would even prefer the older version now since they messed up the notification screen.

To be honest, Jellybean is stable enough so that we don't necesarily "need" further updates. I'm "suck" on 4.1.2 on my optimus g and don't really mind at all(And yes, LG is worse at abandoning their flagships). Got kit kat on my nexus 7 and don't really see much difference. I miss the great sony UI though. Still torn between this phone and the z1.

I buy phone - start to see if everything works - root - flash custom rom. Never worries about updates.
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And tell me what features of 4.4 you so desperately need having just 4.3 ? I understand the importance of an update, but on the other and I think people exaggerate the need for them a lot...
So to answer the question - no, i'm not afraid. Frankly speaking, I don't really care, as long as it won't take a year or so.

Akiainavas said:
And tell me what features of 4.4 you so desperately need having just 4.3 ?
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A pretty major update in 4.4 for devices with on-screen buttons, like the Xperia series, is "immersive mode" (http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...go-truly-full-screen-hide-the-navigation-bar/). There are other nice updates, and maybe that one doesn't interest you, but to me it's a big deal. You never know when Google is going to throw a great new feature like that in.

augie7107 said:
I've used Sony (Ericsson) phones for years. Late updates are a condition you either live with or jump ship. Sony has always been notoriously late with update releases.
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What? Worse than Samsung?
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Android 5.0 L for Z3

Greeting, if anyone knows when it will be available to Android 5.0 for Xperia Z3?
Something was discussed, it should come this year or next (Q1/2015)... It would be good if Sony starts thinking forward about the new android L...
Or we'll get a new update on Z3, while out new Z4..

zujko said:
Greeting, if anyone knows when it will be available to Android 5.0 for Xperia Z3?
Something was discussed, it should come this year or next (Q1/2015)... It would be good if Sony starts thinking forward about the new android L...
Or we'll get a new update on Z3, while out new Z4..
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Wait for Sony to announce their update roadmaps in the next few days

Probably we will all get in in Q1/2015
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http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/10...d-5-0-lollipop-to-the-entire-xperia-z-series/

Bäcker said:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/10...d-5-0-lollipop-to-the-entire-xperia-z-series/
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So that means we will get it 3 months from when the nexus devices get theirs. Its not fast update but its on par with other OEM's i guess.

Wow, Sony means xperia z will get android L update.... Fantastic!!!!

Good news. I will be holding onto my Nexus 5 until Christmas then, usually the carriers have devices on sale around then and also my upgrade fee will be less. SAWEEET!

viking2.0 said:
So that means we will get it 3 months from when the nexus devices get theirs. Its not fast update but its on par with other OEM's i guess.
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LOOL.... Nexus get out 6 of november, lollipop will land few days later on older nexus and GPE version of phone.
So it means sony have just one and half month to bring it to Z3 if they want to realease it for Z3 series, and you say its slow?
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HTC One (M7) - Android 5.0 Lollipop update in 90 days
HTC One (M8) - Android 5.0 Lollipop update in 90 days
HTC One mini - Android 5.0 Lollipop update, schedule TBA
HTC One mini 2 - Android 5.0 Lollipop update, schedule TBA
Motorola have 4-5 phones, samsung few phones, lg 2 maybe and sony will update entire Z series.
This is briliant

Chance for better 3rd party camera apps?
Since several of the features in 5.0 look quite interesting for photography purposes, any guesses if these could be used for better 3rd party camera apps?
As seen on http://www.android.com/versions/lollipop-5-0/ :
A range of new professional photography features for Android Lollipop that let you
Capture full resolution frames around 30 fps
Support raw formats like YUV and Bayer RAW
Control capture settings for the sensor, lens, and flash per individual frame
Capture metadata like noise models and optical information

electrash said:
LOOL.... Nexus get out 6 of november, lollipop will land few days later on older nexus and GPE version of phone.
So it means sony have just one and half month to bring it to Z3 if they want to realease it for Z3 series, and you say its slow?
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HTC One (M7) - Android 5.0 Lollipop update in 90 days
HTC One (M8) - Android 5.0 Lollipop update in 90 days
HTC One mini - Android 5.0 Lollipop update, schedule TBA
HTC One mini 2 - Android 5.0 Lollipop update, schedule TBA
Motorola have 4-5 phones, samsung few phones, lg 2 maybe and sony will update entire Z series.
This is briliant
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Sony states 5.0 will be released beginning of 2015. So assuming its end of Jan or early Feb then it is 3 months from the release of 5.0 to nexus devices. This could be the time frame for all the other OEM's except motorola which might release it in december. I would call that fast. I knew this before buying the device so i am not really bothered about it.

At least they have announced an intention to update those phones. Unlike Samsung...

Bäcker said:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/10...d-5-0-lollipop-to-the-entire-xperia-z-series/
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Wow, I am positively surprised that even my Xperia tablet z will get official lollipop. I thought that Sony was supposed to be bad at updating. Compared to my old Asus I feel that I am treated like a princess.
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So will there be any changes for an update for Z3 to Lollipop? When I had a Samsung/HTC update to 4.0, there weren't any major changes. Will the Z3 be able to run ART with even better battery saving capabilities? Anyone know what features might be added? Im interested to know if there will be any major changes, or if I should just wait for a Z4/Nexus 6 that will have the latest features instead of getting a slimmed down update.
Any help is appreciated. Thanks

Richie5767 said:
So will there be any changes for an update for Z3 to Lollipop? When I had a Samsung/HTC update to 4.0, there weren't any major changes. Will the Z3 be able to run ART with even better battery saving capabilities? Anyone know what features might be added? Im interested to know if there will be any major changes, or if I should just wait for a Z4/Nexus 6 that will have the latest features instead of getting a slimmed down update.
Any help is appreciated. Thanks
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If I read it correctly ART is the default runtime in lollipop so yeah... Guess it'll be able to run ART. And nobody knows what the exact changes will be... only sony.

I'm pretty sure Z3 will get L in late Jan - early Feb

viking2.0 said:
Sony states 5.0 will be released beginning of 2015. So assuming its end of Jan or early Feb then it is 3 months from the release of 5.0 to nexus devices. This could be the time frame for all the other OEM's except motorola which might release it in december. I would call that fast. I knew this before buying the device so i am not really bothered about it.
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Aye, let the Nexus users be the guinea pigs and do the testing for us - hopefully by that time it will be bug free is the way I see it

rooting lollipop may need a custom kernel ? (according to chainfire) this will make bootloader unlock and drm issue all the more interesting hehe
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CandyAndy said:
Wow, I am positively surprised that even my Xperia tablet z will get official lollipop. I thought that Sony was supposed to be bad at updating. Compared to my old Asus I feel that I am treated like a princess.
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Ah, yes, but because of the frequency of new models being released, it's easy to forget that the Z and Tablet Z actually only came out about 18 months ago - so are pretty much within the '18 month' window of getting supported.

I actually don't want Android 5 / L before it has stabilized. KitKat needed 5 iterations to settle (remember all the connectivity issues up and including 4.4.3?!).
Hence, completly agree with zoomee, let Nexus users do some testing and Google do some fixes first

Meanwhile, the Z2 STILL doesn't have 4.4.4

[Not a surprise] We are getting Android 6.0 Marshmallow

According to the official Sony Mobile blog, we are indeed getting the next major release of Android:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/06/sony-xperia-and-android-6-0-marshmallow/
Excited?

Fantastic news!
Been debating whether or not to splash out on a Z3 Tablet Compact and the fact that it's also getting an update might push me over.
Cheers for the link

How long is the wait will be make the difference between Sony and other manufacturers.
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This time updates will come faster because sony is moving to close-to-stock firmware. Faster doesn't mean next month though Maybe December-January.

omegastarr said:
This time updates will come faster because sony is moving to close-to-stock firmware. Faster doesn't mean next month though Maybe December-January.
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They probably don't want to repeat an as sloppy start as with LP, so I'd guess somewhere between Jan-Mar, but the fact that they're moving closer to Vanilla may affect that..

Personally, I hope that they will expand the theming capabilities of their current theme engine. It's already quite good but being able to theme more the official way (no rooting or modding just swapping the themes on the go) would be great.

You think that next update will be closer to Vanilla from Sony's Android™ Concept??

Kinda pity the Z1 users. Their device is more than capable to run Marshmallow. But we're not here to talk about them. I'm kinda not that excited about the Marshmallow update. I just want Sony to release a bugfree update in just one release. Is that really too hard to ask for?
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You think that next update will be closer to Vanilla from Sony's Android™ Concept??
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Most probably not
But that is what I want too!!
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LeParkour012 said:
Kinda pity the Z1 users. Their device is more than capable to run Marshmallow. But we're not here to talk about them. I'm kinda not that excited about the Marshmallow update. I just want Sony to release a bugfree update in just one release. Is that really too hard to ask for?
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Google can't do it and you ask sony for that ? Impossibru

I don't get why Sony have to change the home circle to a house and the phone icon. I hope they keep it stock and get rid of that coloured notification bar

Should arrive around Dec 2016 then once the Networks have pissed around with it!

Always.... Complains when we hesr good news from Sony ><"
Get some of you never tired of yourself [emoji14]
Well be happy that we get Android 6.0 ^^
Just somewhere and keep positive

Xperia Z1 won't get the M

Bad news or good news mate,? Our beloved device will not get the M. So this is the time for change our device is'nt it?
Source :
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/06/sony-xperia-and-android-6-0-marshmallow
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odie70 said:
Bad news or good news mate,? Our beloved device will not get the M. So this is the time for change our device is'nt it?
Source :
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/06/sony-xperia-and-android-6-0-marshmallow
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Or you can stick with cyanogemod and wait for a port of Sony apps and câmera,Just like older xperias does...
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I'm pretty sure we will get Android M through various different means, even if Sony doesn't do it.

Does this include the AOSP developer version or just official stable roms?

Official stable roms.

FrosteezBR said:
Or you can stick with cyanogemod and wait for a port of Sony apps and câmera,Just like older xperias does...
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If only I didn't have a LB phone... bad luck for me.
I suppose around that time I will be wanting a new phone anyway, so *shrug*. 3 years on a handset is pretty solid IMO.

xasbo said:
If only I didn't have a LB phone... bad luck for me.
I suppose around that time I will be wanting a new phone anyway, so *shrug*. 3 years on a handset is pretty solid IMO.
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Bad luck man,3 years is good time tho
You'll be happy with z5 mate
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I know that sony can definitely make it. Z1 is a beast even these days, and it isnt much different compared to Z2. It's just sony doesnt care to do it coz it's old. Though I think Z1's life should be a little longer compared to the original Z. A little unfair here.

KWOKSFUNG said:
I know that sony can difinitely make it. Z1 is a beast even these days, and it isnt much different compared to Z2. It's just sony doesnt care to do it coz it's old. Though I think Z1's life should be a little longer compared to the original Z. A little unfair here.
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You're right, I think we deserve the android M from Sony

xasbo said:
If only I didn't have a LB phone... bad luck for me.
I suppose around that time I will be wanting a new phone anyway, so *shrug*. 3 years on a handset is pretty solid IMO.
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Hehe, my xperia is just 3 months old I'm a little angry because a few weeks ago xiaomi released redmi note 2 that will get A6 and it's even cheaper than a new z1. Only it's not made from metal and glass and it's not waterproof.

Lets post that we need it
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Soft...arshmallow-Which-Xperias-will-be/td-p/1033227
And comment here
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/06/sony-xperia-and-android-6-0-marshmallow/

wmcdrugs said:
Lets post that we need it
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Softw...e/td-p/1033227
And comment here
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/...0-marshmallow/
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Both of those links are broken.

Fixed, thanks

SuperLamic said:
Hehe, my xperia is just 3 months old I'm a little angry because a few weeks ago xiaomi released redmi note 2 that will get A6 and it's even cheaper than a new z1. Only it's not made from metal and glass and it's not waterproof.
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Yes, sony dev are suck i guess
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Judging from driver issues(ex: No 5GHz wifi listed on some device, and terrible wifi speed) on both 5.0.2 & 5.1.1, SONY seems to doing copy & paste the rom source from another variable like Z2.
Will there be any differences between SONY's official and ported ROM from Z2? I guess no.

No hating, but I suggest we all turn up the heat with Z1 getting 6.0. I mean look at the Z, it received updates up until 5.1.1, so it doesn't seem logical that the Z1 being a much newer and higher spec phone compared to the Z gets up to 5.1.1 only. We should get the 6.0 update. As for the Z, IMHO it's update until 5.1.1 is already a welcome farewell to the grandfather beast. Because of the Z, Sony has come along way.

Z1 got 4 major updates, more than most other phones, why are you all complaining it is being ditched?

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Z1 got 4 major updates, more than most other phones, why are you all complaining it is being ditched?
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Mostly because the updates where just all a mess except 4.4.4
But my mayor concern is if the Z5 sales fail - Sony will for sure sell their Xperia department this time ...
I was really keen to get a Z5, but considering the awesome specs of the Lumina 950 and 950XL, updates as you are used to get them on Windows I probably give it a try. Continuum is just to good to be true. Would the 950 be Waterresistant, no doubt at all to move...

Some people fighting for latest firmware. And there's people like me who still staying with Kit kat for stability and stuff.

PielunA said:
Judging from driver issues(ex: No 5GHz wifi listed on some device, and terrible wifi speed) on both 5.0.2 & 5.1.1, SONY seems to doing copy & paste the rom source from another variable like Z2.
Will there be any differences between SONY's official and ported ROM from Z2? I guess no.
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The core of the ROM is mainly from another device such as the Z2, but they're built against specific device configs. It's really not that complicated and it's something that Sony could easily support as it'd be no different to what they've already done with Lollipop.
The Nexus 5 is similar to the Z1 and that'll be receiving Marshmallow. Hell, the Z2 isn't all that different from the Z1 either. The only difficult part to deal with is the camera, but it's not like Sony can't get it done.
People should keep complaining and demanding the 6.0 update for the Z1 and then we might end up with an update, but if people sit quiet and don't even bother to ask about it then we'll be stuck on 5.1.1 unless you want to unlock your bootloader and install ROM's that will never be 100% stable.

Z5 Marshmallow update

Ok guys, since we're all waiting in here, seemed like a good idea to start this thread... If anyone has any 'good' news they'd like to share about the update, please do so here
Also, when the update is out, would be cool to have everyone post their comments and experiences in this thread, keeping it tight!
At this point, we don't seem to have anything set in stone on when this update is coming, I'm just hoping on a couple of good fixes with the update, like the auto brightness issue, camera optimisations, smoothness/lag issues etc..
What do you guys hope to get to see in the new update?

I hope it wont take long.

Misleading title

I'm kinda happy with my Z5 so far (I encounter bugs and issues here and there though). I'm a little bit less impressed with Sony when it comes to fixing bugs and releasing updates.
Mashmallow release date: October 5, 2015
October... November... December... 1/2 January... still no release date. I'm not talking about the actual ROM, just about a release date... (January? February?)
And I'm pretty sure they received the Marshmallow sources way before October 5th and they use a pretty-near stock ROM. What's taking so long compared to, for example, Motorola or LG (already on Marshmallow)? I mean, yeah the KitKat -> Lollipop transition was pretty steep, with a lot of new code, but Marshmallow and Lollipop are close cousins, use the same design, ART runtime, etc.
Or maybe it's just me; After using custom roms for years, and not having to wait that long after a manufacturer to update its phones, I became impatient :|

At least Sony update their phones I'm happy to wait when it comes it comes I'm tired of expecting. We had 2 year updates with the original XZ so I'm more than happy
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I don't understand why the Z3 series has the Marshmallow concept and Z5 doesn't.

Waiting is okay for me, as long as the update brings something big, like new feautres. But at least Sony should tell us when they're going to release Marshmallow - it's now a bit long time already.

I hope to see new redesigned UI as current one is really boring and these colorfull icons in menus are no longer elegant to be honest, it does not look consistent to me any longer.
Camera blur fix and low light improvements along with 4K 60fps and intelligent stady shot are expected.
Battery life for sure needs to be improved as well as lags and response of the phone.
Bug fixes please.
Dream Wishes? Old Timescape in new rewamped design

The most important is the manual camera, or at least return of iso on sony manual camera app

Phazonclash said:
Mashmallow release date: October 5, 2015
October... November... December... 1/2 January... still no release date. I'm not talking about the actual ROM, just about a release date... (January? February?)
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They keeping it temporary exclusive for the Z6 launch. (lol)
Ok I'm out.
It's the same every time Just wait à little more to be sure to have à good rom. Z3 users already bêta test it for us..
Btw where did you see October for Z5 MM release ?

You can monitor this thread cause this guy gbil work at sony always have true info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3261154

ninjy said:
They keeping it temporary exclusive for the Z6 launch. (lol)
Ok I'm out.
It's the same every time Just wait à little more to be sure to have à good rom. Z3 users already bêta test it for us..
Btw where did you see October for Z5 MM release ?
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Marshmallow was released by google on October 5th 2015...

It's a shame because I'm waiting for the marshmallow update to see if it's worth me keeping this phone or selling and getting a nexus 6p

Sony never promised MM to release in 2015 for the Z5 lineup, according to sources the update is going to be released this month.

chrisully said:
It's a shame because I'm waiting for the marshmallow update to see if it's worth me keeping this phone or selling and getting a nexus 6p
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I'm thinking the same thing, either swapping it or selling it for either a 6P or a G4 (or even my previous Moto X Style I swapped for this device)
They need to fix and improve a lot of stuff for the device for me to keep it..

It's been reported that the new firmware bound for Sony Xperia Z5 and Xperia Z4 in Japan has been certified by the Wi-Fi Alliance, a process that is needed to for OTA software update, so hang in there folks =)

Sckank said:
It's been reported that the new firmware bound for Sony Xperia Z5 and Xperia Z4 in Japan has been certified by the Wi-Fi Alliance, a process that is needed to for OTA software update, so hang in there folks =)
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Any links to that statement? Who reported it?

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Any links to that statement? Who reported it?
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It was, like, a month ago... Nothing new.

I have marshmallow on my 6P and I tried the concept on the Z3 and it's not that much of a change. It does bring native fingerprint scanner support that hopefully Sony will bring forward with their own scanner. Also adopted SD storage with it's a bit of a mess on its own.
Another thing I've noticed, because app uptake for new versions of android is slow (right now about 5% of people are on marshmallow) there's a lot of bugs to be ironed out by devs at the beginning therefore IMHO is much better to get onto the new big releases a few months later after Google puts them out.
I think Sony does a fine job with all this. By the time they came out with Lollipop most bugs had been ironed out and they quickly brought it up to 5.1.1.