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[Q] Email help

Hello -
I am a newbie here. I today got my Samsung Galaxy S. I have rooted it and applied the lag fix. It is super fast and very cool.
** Problem **
Now I am coming from the Blackberry Bold background. I am having trouble configuring the email setup on Galaxy.
I have 1 Exchange Account, 2 IMAP accounts and 1 Gmail account.
Gmail account was setup automatically the second I went to the Android Market place.
I tried setting up one IMAP account using the default Email application with mixed results. It downloaded the messages, so settings were correct. However, it is extremely slow. Further, I could not find any settings to sync say upto last 3 days only. It simply kept showing me "Load More messages"...
I am also wary that I do not have the choice to store messages on the internal 8GB SD card which shipped with the phone.
I haven't tried anything with Exchange yet.
Push email is a MUST for me. I do not want to return the phone as everything else seems to be super cool. But I do need to get emails, contacts and calendar working in harmony.
I would be extremely grateful if someone could help or point me in the right direction.
Many thanks.

The email app is really bad. you have to use the gmail app, which I also don't really care for. You cannot copy text from messages, viewing attachments is a pain (compared to iphone). K9 email is better than the stock app, but still to many bugs, so i went back to gmail.
Learn to live with gmail app or return the phone. Jorte calendar works good thought, but I really miss the nice iphone email app. Maybe some update will make the email app less buggy, but it is a very far step behind iphone email.

For a smartphone, it is essential that email/contacts/calendar work in harmony. I think the email is a major let down especially when compared with Blackberry.
I have exported all my contacts and calendar to Gmail. Will see how that pans out.
Will try out K9 email.

I use K-9 Mail. It's a free app available on the market. Much better support and options than the default email client. Give it a try.
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Changing gmail fetch rate?

On the Gmail app on the Vibrant, is there any way to set when your phone checks for mail? I'd like to be able to lower the rate at which it checks. Can't seem to find any option for it whatsoever.

As far as I know, there is no polling interval. New e-mails are pushed directly to your phone the moment they arrive.

vapotrini said:
On the Gmail app on the Vibrant, is there any way to set when your phone checks for mail? I'd like to be able to lower the rate at which it checks. Can't seem to find any option for it whatsoever.
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If you want to do this, you need to turn off email sync, with gmail , and set gmail up with the regular email app on the phone, gmail gets push mail notifictations, the regular app polls at a set time.

Thanks for the responses.
thegreatcity said:
As far as I know, there is no polling interval. New e-mails are pushed directly to your phone the moment they arrive.
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Well if that's true then surely that is hurting battery life, no?

A further question:
Will Gmail still update if you turn off Auto Sync? What about Background Data?

if you turn off auto sync, then nothing will come to the phone that is on that account, email, contacts, calendar, etc. its either all on or all off

vapotrini said:
Well if that's true then surely that is hurting battery life, no?
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Not necessarily. You may want to look into other options to conserve battery life, but if you feel that Gmail is the culprit, Id say that watcher has the appropriate solution. The regular email app, is decidedly less feature filled, but you can certainly change the polling interval with it.
Kubernetes said:
Will Gmail still update if you turn off Auto Sync? What about Background Data?
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No, with Auto-sync off, you only get calls and texts.

Push is not Poll
vapotrini said:
Well if that's true then surely that is hurting battery life, no?
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I don't believe that is necessarily true. Gmail leaves a TCP/IP connection open to a server, but transmits no data unless there is a new message. In other words, think of your phone as running a very simple and secure server that is ready and listening for Google to connect to it and alert it that there is a new message to retrieve (I don't think it's really a server, but it helps conceptually). Leaving that port open and a constant connection with no data flowing requires no additional battery life over what is necessary for your cellular modem to be on (which you need to be able to receive calls as well).
Wikipedia says that the technology used is Microsoft ActiveSync, but I'm inclined to believe it's XMPP (which is what Google Talk uses and is built into Android for other uses as well). But the above description of the technology is valid either way.
(spamblocker, remove the spaces) http :// en.wikipedia. org /wiki/ Push_e-mail # Google_Android
Every time a message is received, battery life is consumed in order to download the message. So, if you were to get the message on your desktop first, handle it, and delete it, I presume that would save you the battery life of the download of that message, but that is a very nominal amount of battery life. I wouldn't worry about it.

watcher64 said:
If you want to do this, you need to turn off email sync, with gmail , and set gmail up with the regular email app on the phone, gmail gets push mail notifictations, the regular app polls at a set time.
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Just a heads up to the OP (or anyone interested) regarding the stock email application- my experience was that the polling interval was unreliable. I have 3 email accounts, 2 of them were set to check on frequent intervals like 10 minutes or something and the third was set up to check on the hour.
Often times the stock email app would miss the intervals or would not check at all. Additionally there were numerous occasions that mail was sitting on my server but the stock vibrant mail would report no messages.
Your mileage may vary as many people seem to have very different experiences with their phones and bugs. My experience with the stock email app was pretty poor so I thought it worth sharing.
GPS and such annoyed me but I figured I'd be able to wait it out for a fix. Email was nearly a deal breaker though, especially having these problems after coming from blackberrys which do a great job with email.
I figured gmail was the way to go but i didnt want to get into some complex forwading scheme fr all of my email addresses.
The way I ended up working it out was to set up a free Google business account and change the mx records on my mail server to run through Google servers instead of my webhosts servers. Now I'm running all of my email addresses on the Gmail application and have push email and aside from a few minor gripes with the gmail/android interface I am pretty happy overall.
I'd suggest sticking with the gmail application, push email is a good thing.

Juice Defender from the market allows for setting how often your phone connects to a data connection. More or less doing the same thing.
I don't personally use it since I don't care, but it should answer the OP's question with a working solution.

Thanks for all the responses guys, a lot of good alternatives out there it seems.
I don't get all that many emails a day so was just curious if disabling it would save a lot of battery life. Since the general consensus is that it doesn't I'll leave it be.

Sgs lags only when using Samsung email

Hi,
As the title says. .can u guys try it out. .im running on foryo now but the same thing was on 2.1...
It only lags when i configure an email account in the email client. ..once deleted NO LAG. .
Btw what's up with the gps fuss. .mine is working perfectly infact its best gps and wifi in a phone i owned.
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SGS also lags when browsing through different memos in Memos application. It's hilarious!

u didn't get what im saying it only lags after configuring an email account. ..ex ur memo browsing might not lag if u remove ur email account. .
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Well, I don't have seperate email accounts configured, only Gmail.... so don't know about that.

Either you've never had a gps-enabled phone before, or your previous phones have been useless, as my experience is that my old G1 has better gps than my SGS - it locks MUCH faster and is 100% accurate, whereas the SGS never gets within 10m of my location and once I start moving it just goes haywire - MY Tracks shows me driving through fields and houses 90% of the time and occasionally I've done handbrake turns in someones front garden apparently.

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Either you've never had a gps-enabled phone before, or your previous phones have been useless, as my experience is that my old G1 has better gps than my SGS - it locks MUCH faster and is 100% accurate, whereas the SGS never gets within 10m of my location and once I start moving it just goes haywire - MY Tracks shows me driving through fields and houses 90% of the time and occasionally I've done handbrake turns in someones front garden apparently.
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I don't know but i never faced an issue like that and the fix is pretty fast compared to my touch pro and omnia 2
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Lag also without email-accounts
Since upgrading to FroYo 2 weeks ago i haven't bothered to enter my email-accounts. (only gmail)
But it still lags!

dspjern said:
Since upgrading to FroYo 2 weeks ago i haven't bothered to enter my email-accounts. (only gmail)
But it still lags!
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You can add my name to this list. I've never used Samsung's crappy E-mail app, yet my phone lags constantly.
Back to the drawing board, eh?

adel6 said:
Hi,
As the title says. .can u guys try it out. .im running on foryo now but the same thing was on 2.1...
It only lags when i configure an email account in the email client. ..once deleted NO LAG. .
Btw what's up with the gps fuss. .mine is working perfectly infact its best gps and wifi in a phone i owned.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk
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I have experienced the same thing, i mainly experience the lag in the email app itself though. System Panel shows a steady 30% cpu usage when just looking at the email screen(s), and a steady continious +50% cpu when in the Accounts & Settings of the email accounts, so there is something odd. It seems to relate to Exchange accounts, but i'm not sure.
I read somewhere that a K9-mail user had a problem, downloading 20-25 messages took 10 minutes. After applying Voodoo Lagfix, this dropped to 2 seconds... So maybe the email app is really hammering the internal SD card for no good reason, which would explain the high CPU .

I've never used Samsung's crappy E-mail app
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the e-mail app on the Galaxy S identical to the "stock Android" one?
I use the GMail app myself and I have no problems with it. The Memo app turned painfully slow after the 2.2 update, but fortunately I don't use it

pwhooftman said:
I have experienced the same thing, i mainly experience the lag in the email app itself though. System Panel shows a steady 30% cpu usage when just looking at the email screen(s), and a steady continious +50% cpu when in the Accounts & Settings of the email accounts, so there is something odd. It seems to relate to Exchange accounts, but i'm not sure.
I read somewhere that a K9-mail user had a problem, downloading 20-25 messages took 10 minutes. After applying Voodoo Lagfix, this dropped to 2 seconds... So maybe the email app is really hammering the internal SD card for no good reason, which would explain the high CPU .
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I haven't bothered investigating cpu usage and such, but I can confirm that the email client profits tremendously from a lag fix (OCLF, in my case, using two Exchange accounts).

As stated in Post #11, i had the same problems. After Setting back to Factory Defaults and installing Voodoo Lagix last night, my conclusions are:
- the problem is introduced/highly aggrevated by installing Froyo 2.2 over Eclair 2.1, which i did through Kies with the registry hack two weeks ago.
- a format of the Internal SD Card, followed by a reset to Factory Defaults, solves the problem to a point the email app is useable again (albeit no speed monster). Also, this solved other ittermittent force closes which i was suffering from mostly in Agenda related apps. Of course you will loose all apps and data doing this.
- Applying Voodoo lagfix solved the speed issues almost completely. You can still tell the email app isn't the best programmed app of the bunch, but its perfectly workable. Installing Voodoo was a breeze following the step by step instructions found through project-voodoo.org.

It does seem a little more responsive after removing te email account.
I will try the voodoo lagfix. But I'm hoping for an updated version of FroYo.

Try this app for email including exchange, it was provided by seven for Samsung, but it was not put on all Galaxy S's, seems to work quite well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8731758&postcount=25
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Running JP6 with voodoo. The default mail app works nicely with two accounts. One exchange and one imap.
No lags even with a few days uptime.

Exchange email accounts drain battery fast on Scandinavian Froyo update
To illustrate something is amiss with the Scandinavian Froyo update, that Samsung pulled afterwards:
If you set up Exchange email accounts, setting the Email retrieval update interval to anything else than 'Never' results in a continious 10% CPU load, draining the battery two times faster than in Eclair 2.1
I set it to 'Never', or have Tasker kill the Email app x seconds after Display Off
Determined by using System Panel app.
Edit: flashed JPA firmware (which is believed to be the official Froyo update coming 11-11), problem still exists

Test with K9 and default Android Email app on i9000
Did a test on my i9000. Stock 2.1 no lag fix. Bought SIM-Free so only has Samsung's tweaks and no mobile operator branding.
I9000XXJM1
ECLAIR.XWJM2
TEST A. Default Email application
1. Used Email app (default one that comes with Android):
Added two Gmail accounts / IMAP, SMTP, SSL.
No unacceptable lag other than that encounted without the usual lag-fix.
2. Added 1 non-Gmail account / IMAP/ SMTP-AUTH, TLS
System became nearly inoperative. Swiping between home screens took 2 seconds. Using most apps, caused the screen to remain black for between 2 and 30 seconds. In one case using Xscope (browser, which was now impossible to use - unresponsive and 3 mins to draw a page) caused the screen to remain black for approx 3 mins. Contact, Messenger and Phone apps took a max of 2 seconds to open, but always opened. Outbound call quality degraded to the point the called party complained. I did not notice an app crash.
TEST B. K9 Mail application
1. Used K9-Mail app :
Added two Gmail accounts / IMAP, SMTP, SSL.
No unacceptable lag other than that encounted without the usual lag-fix.
2. Added 1 non-Gmail account / IMAP/ SMTP-AUTH, TLS
System became nearly inoperative. Swiping between home screens took 2 seconds. Using most apps, caused the screen to remain black for between 2 and 30 seconds. In one case using Xscope (browser, which was now impossible to use - unresponsive and 3 mins to draw a page) caused the screen to remain black for approx 3 mins. Contact, Messenger and Phone apps took a few seconds to open. Outbound call quality degraded to the point the called party complained. I did not notice an app crash. System load hit 39, which is very overloaded for a 1 CPU device. Often it was between 10 and 20.
I suspect the I/O but I did not see iostat in busybox; the stdout from top was badly formatted on the SGS display so I could not read the I/O column.
Notes:
i. Test B Result 2 is almost a copy and past of Test A Result 2. This is because the results were pretty much the same.
ii. System load (vmstat and top) I did not check system load with Test A. I only did this when I used K9-Mail.
iii. System was rebooted each time after an IMAP account was configured.
iv. I have since removed the non-Gmail IMAP accounts. It was hell. I almost beat the SGS into the wall.
v. Important: the non-Gmail IMAP account has the following in the mailbox:
Inbox 658 messages totalling 68.4Mb.
vi. K9-Mail configured to fetch full headers and messages <2kB hourly, and only the fetch the Inbox.
vii. NON-Gmail IMAP server capacities:
* OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 SASL-IR SORT THREAD=REFERENCES MULTIAPPEND UNSELECT LITERAL+ IDLE CHILDREN NAMESPACE LOGIN-REFERRALS UIDPLUS LIST-EXTENDED I18NLEVEL=1 STARTTLS AUTH=PLAIN] Dovecot ready.
No problem here - Google use Dovecot.
viii. A factory reset was done between the two tests. (Settings -> Privacy -> Factory data reset)
viiii. GMAIL IMAP accounts contained approx 20 Emails each in the Inbox. I await more SPAM for testing purposes.
UPDATE.
I had 1,000 Emails sent to me on Gmail. Then reran Test A Part 1, and had the Email app load 114 of these. The SGS stated to lag. I opened one of the messages (containing only 1 line of ASCII email), and the Email partially opened the Email, splutted, stopped, hung, screen went black. Eventually, I closed the app down. Even the Active Applications widget (and the programme it lauches) is slow (and red).
I went onto Gmail and deleted the 1,000 Emails, and synced the Email app with Gmail IMAP server. Messages read 0, and the SGS was back to normal speed without lag-fix.
I soubt very much that any one is using a normal Email account with the SGS Email app. I suspect most are using Gmail with the Gmail application. I cannot comment on the lag fix (I await CyanogenMod for mine), but the SGS cannot be used with a non-Gmail account without a lag fix : useless for me since I only use Gmail for the Market ; Like many people, work provides the Email account. Clearly, Samsung test team did not test their wonderful RFS with normally sized IMAP accounts. Nice one, Samsung. 10 out of 10 for cocking it up.
As for GPS its something like thsi:
- Where are the sats?
Oh there they are.
Please don't move for 30 seconds.
Found some!
Oh feck, you've moved.
Now where are those pesky sats?
What was I doing? Oh sats!

Setting Exchange to'"Push" seems to solve it
I came across this and lo and behold, excessive CPU usage goes down to fairly normal 1-3% CPU while asleep by setting Email retrieval for Exchange accounts to "Push"
Edit: at least, it did for a while. Now its back to previous behaviour. I'm still investigating

Series of tests reveal that email client performs different in certain circumstances
I made a lot of testruns of about one hour to determine the effect of setting up Email Exchange clients on CPU usage and therefore battery life:
Starting point:
- Build Froyo.XWJPA
- Smallband I9000XXJPP
- Voodoo lagfix
- One Gmail account set up, syncing contacts, Gmail, Picassa, Agenda
- Tests run against two separate Exchange Server 2003 servers SP2
- CPU load determined with SystemPanel app
1. Installed Exchange account #1 without security policies. Email retrieval set to "Push".
- Email process used 0% CPU, system CPU floating around 3%
2. Set Exchange account #1 to retrieve email every hour
- Email process used 1,1% CPU, system CPU floating around 10%
3. Set Exchange account #1 back to "Push"
- Email process used 0% CPU, system CPU floating around 3%
4. Set Exchange account #1 to retrieve every 5 minutes
- Email process used 1,5% CPU, system CPU floating around 10%
4. Added Exchange Account #2 with security policy, Email retrieval set to "Push"
- - Email process used 0,5% CPU, system CPU floating around 10%
5. Set Exchange account #2 to retrieve email every hour
- Email process used 1,5% CPU, system CPU floating around 10%
So, what seem conclusions from this test:
1. One Exchange account set to `Push` doesn´t affect battery life much. 'Push' is generally considered the most battery effective.
2. One Exchange account set to some time interval does affect CPU considerably, therefore batterylife also. It's irrelevant what interval is set. The reason the total system CPU goes to around 10% seems to be that the process name ´system´ starts using several % CPU as soon as the email process does. Based on the experience that the email client is slow with an exchange account without a lagfix leads me to the conclusion the email app is performing large amounts of I/O in this setting. This link (comment 14) seems to confirm this. Experiences here (comment 15 & 16) are similar.
3. Adding another Exchange account with security policy enforced increases CPU, no matter at what interval this second account is set. This could be related to the bug found on Motorola Droid that when the Maximum inactivity time out in the Activesync properties on the Exchange server are set to a higher value than the highest supported value on the phone, the email app keeps the phone in a wake lock.
So, i just have my exchange accounts set to Never. For one account, automatic retrieval is useless anyways because mail gets delivered to subfolders (which do not sync or get pushed automatically). Fot the other, i'll just have to open the email app every now and then and let it fetch mail at that moment.
This problem doesn't seem to be limited to the Galaxy S, Motorola Droid is mentioned also in above threads.

Improved Email
I can advise everyone to look into "Improved Email" at http://www.mwebster.us/
It has the ability to sync specific subfolders, hide subfolders, apply color of your choice to the account, open up the email app in folder view, etc
Tip: first delete exisiting Exchange account and setup a new account from within the improved email app

loooking for an alternative to the gmail built in app?

Hi
I get the sending.... hanging problem with the galaxy s built in gmail app.
clearing the cache doesn't work, and using the other email app wont attach video , it just says too big.
what are the good alternative email programs?
Cheers

Hi,
I'm using K-9 Mail via an IMAP Account and are fairly happy with it. Only one thing: Push-Mail via IMAP-Idle drains the Battery like Hell... but a 15 Minute poll is fair enough (shorter Intervals are also available).
And it is FOSS...
Bye

ayn said:
Hi,
I'm using K-9 Mail via an IMAP Account and are fairly happy with it. Only one thing: Push-Mail via IMAP-Idle drains the Battery like Hell... but a 15 Minute poll is fair enough (shorter Intervals are also available).
And it is FOSS...
Bye
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cheers K9 came up in a google search, it sounds good
I turn off sync with email and check it manually when i want to.
its more about sending an email and it actually getting there . where the gmail app fails .
I check my mail on my main computer, but use my phone to 'quick check' stuff. but if an app is a 'beast that takes ages to open' that would be a pain. I didn't think about battery life, (cheers for that). so many apps just run in the background on my galaxy s. as much as i love it, it is another crazy computer in my life .
is K9 a free app or advertising/donation?
also any other suggestions welcome too

Are you sure the gmail app is failing? If you've got your phone to manually sync, the email will never send. The gmail app does not send emails as per request, they are put in a queue and sent out only when the phone syncs. Try it now. Send an email and keep syncing disabled. Nothing happens. Hi options the. Choose refresh option and I will push through the queued emails. As for file size limit, I wouldn't know but I have added a total of 5.8mb in an email which sent fine.
Edit: re read your post. Use the gmail app and try what I said, it has no issues with file size like other **** apps.

galaxy44 said:
is K9 a free app or advertising/donation?
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K9 is free open source software without any kind of adds or something else.

SargeRX8 said:
Are you sure the gmail app is failing? If you've got your phone to manually sync, the email will never send. The gmail app does not send emails as per request, they are put in a queue and sent out only when the phone syncs. Try it now. Send an email and keep syncing disabled. Nothing happens. Hi options the. Choose refresh option and I will push through the queued emails. As for file size limit, I wouldn't know but I have added a total of 5.8mb in an email which sent fine.
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its a known issue:
http://www.google.co.uk/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=1363d927a73ee840&hl=en
send sometimes works
sometimes doesn't (usually when i attach pic or video)
i can send very small test messages by clicking refresh
SargeRX8 said:
Try it now. Send an email and keep syncing disabled. Nothing happens. Hi options the. Choose refresh option and I will push through the queued emails. As for file size limit, I wouldn't know but I have added a total of 5.8mb in an email which sent fine.
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i always use refresh to send the email with sync disabled
its a know issue
the file size issue is to do with the 'other' email program that came with my phone.
I've ruled both out as not fit for purpose.
but i don't want to try hundreds of apps so i thought a few good recommendations might help.
cheers anyway, but I'm giving up on the gmail app.

quick update:
I've tried K9
it had success sending video attachments (that were stuck on gmail app or cancelled on the other galaxy s email app)
the bad
when it set up, it took ages (i have 1000s of email on my gmail account. so it could just be that)
it doesn't seem to group the emails (like replies from forums etc) can i set the settings to do this?
the names like expunge and poll (empty trash and refresh)
it seems a bit slower than the gmail app? but i could just be me
i'm trying to get used to the scrolling left and right in messages.
the good
it showed the full message
it could send video attachments to gmail (is 25mb max for gmail)
it sent the items (unlike the gmail app)
it seems pretty equipped with options
looks ok
I'm still not sure
What else might i try?

ok
I'm using a Samsung Galaxy S
I shoot 3 videos (all 3 are about 7mb)
Gmail can handle attachments up to 25MB
Gmail app always gets stuck on sending (with no warning to let you know its not sent)
MMS wont convert the files
Other Email app wont accept the file size
K9 sends them (which is a step forward)
but doesn't group messages by conversation
also it has the push always running (i don't know what push is)
and seems to always be checking my mail (I don't mind exploring the oddly named and confusing settings if its the program i am going to use)
also the built in gmail app shortens messages so replies from this forum wont display the link to the topic (pretty annoying) the other built in email app does display the link long enough to click.
I feel very frustrated.
I just wanted to send a couple of funny videos to my friend via any means.
And it feels like my Samsung Galaxy S is just completely against me doing this in any easy fashion
I might keep K9 but turn all the setting to check the email off and use it if i want to send a file.
how do i turn the check mail settings off on k9 (the options are confusing, confusingly named, and different depending on where you are in the program.
if i turn K9 off, and use it only occasionally will it take ages to open if i keep all my messages on the server?
Or is there a fourth email program:
that opens fast
groups the messages
sends attachments up to 25mb
Cheers

i tried Maildroid but he adds were annoying.
back to K9:
How do i stop K9 automatically checking mail?
and how do stop the k9 mail service app running constantly (i assume its the push thing)
I'm thinking of keeping the app on there to send files by email, and for links that don't show up properly like replies from this forum. but i don't want it spanking my battery or checking for emails
How do i set it up for "there when i need it"?
the options are confusing and have nonsense kind of names.
Cheers

Stock email app - archive gmail messages

I'm using the gmail app right now, but I'm trying to switch over to the stock app to take advantage of the aod email notifications (for the time being anyway....). I'm not sure if i'm missing something or I'm the biggest noob around or what, but I can't seem to archive new gmail messages from the inbox or the stock email app. My options are swipe right: Move,Set Reminder,Unread,Reply ... swipe left: Delete. I noticed if I move messages, I have to select a folder to put them in. This marks then as read, however, I would like to simply archive my messages and have them appear in 'All Messages' without having a label attached to them. Is this possible and I'm totally missing something? Or is this just gonna happen? I realize this is more of a standard email client, but given the amount of gmail accounts out there, this is something I would expect would be available for a google email account. I will stick to the Gmail app for now, but would be nice to know, even just to get the oad notifications, thanks.
ps - I searched the forums first, but if I missed the answer already, sorry.
tldr: Archive in Samsung mail client ... where is it?

Don't think you are going to get it with the stock app. However, when Nougat rolls out for the S7 I am hoping the AOD will also update to show all notifications.

Verme1 said:
I'm using the gmail app right now, but I'm trying to switch over to the stock app to take advantage of the aod email notifications (for the time being anyway....). I'm not sure if i'm missing something or I'm the biggest noob around or what, but I can't seem to archive new gmail messages from the inbox or the stock email app. My options are swipe right: Move,Set Reminder,Unread,Reply ... swipe left: Delete. I noticed if I move messages, I have to select a folder to put them in. This marks then as read, however, I would like to simply archive my messages and have them appear in 'All Messages' without having a label attached to them. Is this possible and I'm totally missing something? Or is this just gonna happen? I realize this is more of a standard email client, but given the amount of gmail accounts out there, this is something I would expect would be available for a google email account. I will stick to the Gmail app for now, but would be nice to know, even just to get the oad notifications, thanks.
ps - I searched the forums first, but if I missed the answer already, sorry.
tldr: Archive in Samsung mail client ... where is it?
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Albeit a little late to reply to you, but I ran into the same issue.
The answer basically is that in Gmail terms, archiving a message means removing all tags from it.
You can do this on the Samsung mail app by "moving" it to "all messages" folder...it sucks, I know

Well, I'm not 100% to your liking, but I did not use either both gmail or samsung mail. I switched to bluemail. If you want, you should try

mashardpro said:
Well, I'm not 100% to your liking, but I did not use either both gmail or samsung mail. I switched to bluemail. If you want, you should try
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Jut be aware of the possible security issues using BlueMail
:fingers-crossed:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/xda-assist/typeapp-bluemail-security-problems-t3427000

It's the same as on iPhones I think, where a gmail account on their default email client app will go straight to delete.
Moreover, as Yahoo app does the same (I think), the outlier might actually be Gmail which doesn't let you delete, but only archive emails.