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Korean Galaxy S II has NFC!!! *pics*

Just got my hand on a Korean Samsung Galaxy S II. Found a NFC option under Setting menu. Then i removed the back cover, and found the NFC logo on the battery??!!? Could it be the battery is where the NFC tag is at?
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Phone manufactured date: 2011-04-26
Image took with my old Nexus One.
What do you guys think?

Interesting
This is super interesting! From your pics I see that the phone has 4 connector pins, how many does the battery have? How many does the Indian battery have? I am inclined to believe this is the mystery behind "Optional NFC".

It would be interesting to see some side on shots compared to a standard SGS II - I hear the NFC version is somewhat thicker?

AFAIK, the KOREAN SGS2 had NFC since launch. lol

sd card slots not in the same place either

An NFC-chip inside the battery would actually make sense. It has a large surface area inside the phone, which would make the NFC handling easier.
However, the design is completly different. On the non-NFC GS2, the microSD cardslot is on the left side and the battery connectors are on the right side. Some small differences with the SIMcardslot and the external antenna connector too. So it seems its more than just the battery.

What are the specs on this version? Do they use the AT&T US frequencies?

Just a quick question: Have you checked 3G bands on the phone?
I heard that the Korean version is NOT quad-band, and am just wondering if you could check that.
Thanks.

I mentioned this a while ago.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13760704#post13760704
It's my understanding that the phone extends the NFC antenna onto the battery so signals don't get blocked by the battery.
It's tri-band only. Don't know why they'd do that though.

bmstrong said:
What are the specs on this version? Do they use the AT&T US frequencies?
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I think this version is quad-band GSM and quad-band UMTS. Not sure, I dont have the box with me. Will test this with AT&T in the states when i get back there next month.
kohiiou said:
Just a quick question: Have you checked 3G bands on the phone?
I heard that the Korean version is NOT quad-band, and am just wondering if you could check that.
Thanks.
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I'm unable to use the 3G since i dont have phone service on this SGS2, im just using it on wifi at the moment.
Sticks02 said:
I mentioned this a while ago.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13760704#post13760704
It's my understanding that the phone extends the NFC antenna onto the battery so signals don't get blocked by the battery.
It's tri-band only. Don't know why they'd do that though.
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How do you check to see if it's tri-band or quad-band GSM/UMTS?

can you pls dump the stock ROM u have in that SGS2 ? it might be useful... i dont know in what way, but may be yes or may be no...
just curious.... from that pic its quite clear that the battery has the NFC chip built in to the SGS2..... thats amazing...
thats why samsung has maded such a thin plastic backcover... i guess so.... nice thinking & it is an indirect clue i am almost sure....
what do u guys think ???

Was on one of the Korean Samsung Spec pages. Lost the link. Although I don't see why they'd make the international version quad band and the domestic version tri band, makes no sense. There's a number code you can enter to check the phone's settings/hardware. It didn't seem to work for me though.
BTW how did you manage to get the phone? It's my understanding you can't buy it outright here unless you're on a visa. Unless you're on a visa...
@manuvaidya:
They've been dumped already. They were dumped a few days after the phone was released. Seems like it's just not that interesting to devs here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068307

manuvaidya said:
can you pls dump the stock ROM u have in that SGS2 ? it might be useful... i dont know in what way, but may be yes or may be no...
just curious.... from that pic its quite clear that the battery has the NFC chip built in to the SGS2..... thats amazing...
thats why samsung has maded such a thin plastic backcover... i guess so.... nice thinking & it is an indirect clue i am almost sure....
what do u guys think ???
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I hope so, we can just purchase the battery and/or sim if both are needed and we get NFC.
I guess NFC in the future release might mean it comes with a NFC enabled battery.

I found a basic side-by-side comparison of the Korean and Internation models:
hxxp://u23dom.blogspot.com/2011/04/galaxy-s2_29.html
Hit up Google Translate for a .. er .. translation.

Ad-sales said:
This is super interesting! From your pics I see that the phone has 4 connector pins, how many does the battery have? How many does the Indian battery have? I am inclined to believe this is the mystery behind "Optional NFC".
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The UK release phone also has 4 connectors pins and the UK battery also has 4 connectors.
chalid said:
An NFC-chip inside the battery would actually make sense. It has a large surface area inside the phone, which would make the NFC handling easier.
However, the design is completly different. On the non-NFC GS2, the microSD cardslot is on the left side and the battery connectors are on the right side. Some small differences with the SIMcardslot and the external antenna connector too. So it seems its more than just the battery.
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I have the same battery that is labeled "Near Field Communication" and no, unfortunately it does not enable NFC on a stock UK phone running KE7.
Also, did anyone notice that the connector pins on the Korean SGSII are on the left side vs ours which is on the right?

Sleepycat3 said:
The UK release phone also has 4 connectors pins and the UK battery also has 4 connectors.
I have the same battery that is labeled "Near Field Communication" and no, unfortunately it does not enable NFC on a stock UK phone running KE7.
Also, did anyone notice that the connector pins on the Korean SGSII are on the left side vs ours which is on the right?
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I think it's like that because the Korean SGS2 has an antenna on the right side to watch TV-over-the-air.

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It would be interesting to see some side on shots compared to a standard SGS II - I hear the NFC version is somewhat thicker?
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Extra thickness is probably from the DMB tuner
All korean phones come with DMB tuners.
jealous+++++++++

what is the software version of this device?

Dang, I was thinking of getting a spare battery from Korea.

Do both batteries work with uk version of the phone?
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Will the Note II Have different dimensions with the US carriers?

The Note II recently passed trough the FCC for the AT&T, T-mobile and Verizon version.
I wanted to put in a link, but since i am a new user, I can't.
What immediately struck my eye is that the drawings are all different shapes. I don't know how far we can rely on these drawings or shapes to be accurate but it worries me. They did the same with the Galaxy s2. My t-mobile version is completely different compared to the international version for example.
Also when you read some of the test documents on the FCC website, it mentions some dimensions of the phone and they are for each carrier different.
I hope this is not the case, because it would make it harder to find accessories.

engadget[dot]com/2012/09/28/samsung-galaxy-note-ii-variants-for-att-t-mobile-verizon-at-fcc/
^I'm also a new poster, so you'll have to append the actual "." where it says [dot]. I don't know anything about FCC documents, but as far as leaked images and non-FCC reports go, there's no indication that we're going to get the debacle that unfolded pre S III days. Pictures of Sprint, Verizon, AT&T, and US Cellular variants (some of them are test units) have already been leaked or released and they all retain the same shape with the only cosmetic differences being the branding.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/28/...or-att-t-mobile-verizon-at-fcc/#disqus_thread here s a screenshot

Thanks for the tip Paul2834 and for the screenshot deeznutz1977.
And indeed we saw the devices for the carriers and nothing suggested different shapes for each.,
So I hope this is the case. If you read some of the test results from PCtest engineering laboratory Inc for the FCC they mention that the dimensions for the Verizon device are 80,5mm x 151mm, while the same company states the dimensions for the T-Mobile version are 77mm x 146mm.
But I guess we will have to wait until released. They kept the same form for the SIII, so I would be surprised they didn't do this for the Note II, especially if they are launching them all at the same time.

I'll be buying the T-Mobile variant and I actually wouldn't mind the Note II being a bit smaller. I don't think we'll have to wait until release. T-Mobile will hopefully give us some release pics or specs in advance.

It would also surprise me if the phones had different dimensions.
This launch is going exactly the same as the SIII and they were all the same.
If I were a betting man I would say they will all be the same size.

What is the likelihood that the actual device is different that the FCC filing. The papers are what 2-3 weeks old? It's not like it was some super early test model then right? One would have to assume that of these were being tested after ifa that if they were going to be the same dimensions the FCC would show that. Or does this happen often that FCC documents are off on specs? I am just hoping they are all the same that's most likely a deal breaker for me.

The Only carrier that we have not seen yet is Verizon.
There are pictures floating around o Sprints version, ATT Version and T-Mobile version and they are all the same.
ATT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1910994
Sprint
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP-DAlLBtC4
T-Mobile
http://cdn.gottabemobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/gnote2specsheet-575x515.png

all variants are identical.

When is the last time that phones have had different dimensions across carriers?

Very interesting....here is a picture of Sprints test device with the back popped off. Notice the corners are squared
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Jcossack88 said:
Very interesting....here is a picture of Sprints test device with the back popped off. Notice the corners are squared
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That was most likely their prototype for testing.
Here is a video of Sprints Version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP-DAlLBtC4
and here is off Sprints website:
http://community.sprint.com/baw/com...t-introduces-samsung-galaxy-note-ii-this-fall

spridell said:
The Only carrier that we have not seen yet is Verizon.
There are pictures floating around o Sprints version, ATT Version and T-Mobile version and they are all the same.
ATT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1910994
Sprint
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP-DAlLBtC4
T-Mobile
http://cdn.gottabemobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/gnote2specsheet-575x515.png
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na7q said:
all variants are identical.
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hope you guys are right

Hotobu said:
When is the last time that phones have had different dimensions across carriers?
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Really???
Samsung Galaxy S, Samsung Galaxy S2.
It was a pretty big deal for the Galaxy S3 to be identical across all carriers.

T-Mobile Version.
They will all be the same. This confirms it even more
http://phandroid.com/2012/10/03/t-m...ed-in-the-wild-is-that-a-branded-home-button/

This is good news.
Also like the fact that the branding of the providers in on the back with this smartphone.
My t989 (T-mobile's Galaxy s2) has it in the front. now you can get a new back cover and can loose the carrier logo

Doesn't make sense to even ask this question. The screen size is one of the biggest selling point of this device. Making it smaller kinda defeats the purpose of it.

Hotobu said:
When is the last time that phones have had different dimensions across carriers?
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2011.

Does the note 4 have FM radio or the hardware for one?

Cant seem to find an answer to this anywhere, here in aus we don't have unlimited data so streaming apps are out of the question has samsung finally woken up to itself and put in an fm radio? Or at least the hardware inside the phone to use an after market app like spirit FM?
Although the note 4 is full of awesomeness, If not i think its time for me to look else where for a phone maybe the next HTC will be up to par?
thanks for any help.

wow so even people that own the phone dont know if it has an fm radio, this is crazy i cant find the answer to this anywhere....

I don't think many people here have Note 4 yet, but judging from the past I don't think it will have one. Now funny part is, almost all Samsung phones in the past had radio hardware but it was disabled. There was a developer who wrote a program to enable it in some phones, but he speculated that for example Note 3 had antenna shorted to the ground, so even with his program it wouldn't work, unless you were brave enough to actually do some soldering. If I had to speculate, I would lean towards carriers requesting radio to be eliminated, they don't make money if you use free fm radio, instead of streaming, but that could mean some versions could have it. In many places Note 4 should be available any day now, so we should know more then.

it does have fm chip
Only sprint allows you to use it. The rest of the carriers have not activated it yet. Read the next radio website for more information

I believe Sprint Note 4 uses specific modem (radio) which includes fm radio tuner too. It is not about carriers not activating that feature, it is not included in hardware in other models of Note 4.
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Any update on this? I own SM-910F, Orange carrier here in Romania.
I also don't seem to find the info about built-in FM chip into this specific Note 4 model.
For all it matters, I do know it's Snapdragon CPU powered.
If I rooted the phone, would I be able to use the FM chip inside?
@ OP: have you been able to dig up more on this? Thanks!

bbbobbbo said:
Any update on this? I own SM-910F, Orange carrier here in Romania.
I also don't seem to find the info about built-in FM chip into this specific Note 4 model.
For all it matters, I do know it's Snapdragon CPU powered.
If I rooted the phone, would I be able to use the FM chip inside?
@ OP: have you been able to dig up more on this? Thanks!
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Root is required, You could try borrowing the apk for FM radio and the lib files from a "sprinter" and placing in your system. Thats the place to start.

Look at Nextradio apps supported devices page, find your device in my case Note 4.
Unless a Boost Mobile, Sprint, or Virgin Mobile version of a Samsung Galaxy Note 4 differs from a AT&T or Verizon version then I highly doubt any version of the Note 4 is lacking an FM radio chip. I recall AT&T unlocking the feature in the near future for the Note 4 *hint*. Not to mention Samsung purposely didn't advertise the fact *hint*. So logic says yes it's there and for some reason carriers are playing the "we didn't know" game and prefer to force you to use your data so it would seem. Since voice, and text is unlimited nowadays. I've called Verizon and even their reps are advertising it doesn't exist for the Note 4. But I know better! xD

Ci2e said:
I recall AT&T unlocking the feature in the near future for the Note 4 *hint*. Not to mention Samsung purposely didn't advertise the fact *hint*.
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Wow, that's great news. (And I even thought this ropic was dead, even more so with recent note 5 hipe and all).
Really appreciate your contribution to this and since I'm in Europe and not following US mobile tech events, if you could just let us know whether or not AT&T unlocking FM ever happens, would mean a great deal.
Still havent rooted my note 4 and moreover I'm in greater doubt than ever before, if it's worth doing it - perhaps time to sell it is near and it unrooted means better resell value.
If I would just know for sure if my specific SM 910F model has real physical inbuilt FM hardware chip, I'd definitely go for it.

Ci2e said:
Look at Nextradio apps supported devices page, find your device in my case Note 4.
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As you said, it is there but only for aprint , boost and vergin. I'm Orange.
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As you said, it is there but only for aprint , boost and vergin. I'm Orange.
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This only means those carriers are enabling the FM chip. Boost and Virgin both use Sprint towers I believe so they all have Sprint hardware with their own front end.
*You all should take into account that I'm merely researching and interpreting it all to my logic. It may differ from yours.

Any updates on Radio tuner enabled? I'm just curious if you got it to work.

What would be the case if I bought my Note 4 phone unlocked, from an electronics sales Samsung representative (not from a carrier)? is there a way to find out if the hardware is installed?

I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 4 SM_N910G with Resurrection Remix 5.8.3 on it. How do I activate it if i do not have any carrier to go too because I live in australia.

Galaxy Note Edge (Korean Model) vs (International Model)

I am thinking of getting the Galaxy Note Edge but I am confused which model to get.
The Korean Model has the Exynos CPU while the International Model has the Snapdragon CPU.
Which do you think will be a better option?
The only negative point about the Korean model is the useless Korean apps and Korean Text on the phone dialer.

MCube74 said:
I am thinking of getting the Galaxy Note Edge but I am confused which model to get.
The Korean Model has the Exynos CPU while the International Model has the Snapdragon CPU.
Which do you think will be a better option?
The only negative point about the Korean model is the useless Korean apps and Korean Text on the phone dialer.
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I have the Snapdradon Note 4 and Exynos Edge and i do prefer the Exynos based Note. But i have no warranty as it is imported to the UK. If you are happy with that risk i recommend Exynos. Also check the LTE coverage for your location. In the UK on EE i appear to have Cat 6 LTE, which is good.

MCube74 said:
I am thinking of getting the Galaxy Note Edge but I am confused which model to get.
The Korean Model has the Exynos CPU while the International Model has the Snapdragon CPU.
Which do you think will be a better option?
The only negative point about the Korean model is the useless Korean apps and Korean Text on the phone dialer.
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I have the Exynos Edge and the Snapdragon Note 4 and I find the Edge superior in every way.

I too have Note 4 snapdragon and the Exnyos Edge. Very impressed with the edge. I would not swap it for snapdragon model.
Yes you end up some useless Korean apps but uninstall most. Korean characters on the dialer is the only thing thats currently bothering me.

Dear
I had the chance to use three models of the device
N-915S ||| N-915G ||| N-915F
the later models uses the snapdragon while the first uses the exynos.
I can say that the snapdrgon Edges are way better than the exynos. I had lag in the S model. Battery life is at least 20% better in the snapdragon. The only drawback is it gets heat more.
However we should consider that the S had an operator ROM which might causes the issues above.
Sent from my SM-N915F using XDA Free mobile app

mhg2000 said:
Dear
I had the chance to use three models of the device
N-915S ||| N-915G ||| N-915F
the later models uses the snapdragon while the first uses the exynos.
I can say that the snapdrgon Edges are way better than the exynos. I had lag in the S model. Battery life is at least 20% better in the snapdragon. The only drawback is it gets heat more.
However we should consider that the S had an operator ROM which might causes the issues above.
Sent from my SM-N915F using XDA Free mobile app
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No lag at all on my N915S and I also have a N910F ao an idea anout Snapdragon performance

mhg2000 said:
Dear
I had the chance to use three models of the device
N-915S ||| N-915G ||| N-915F
the later models uses the snapdragon while the first uses the exynos.
I can say that the snapdrgon Edges are way better than the exynos. I had lag in the S model. Battery life is at least 20% better in the snapdragon. The only drawback is it gets heat more.
However we should consider that the S had an operator ROM which might causes the issues above.
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I have no lag at all on my Note Edge and I also prefer the Exynos version than the Snapdragon on my Note 4

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have the n915k (another korean variant like the s)
dont have lte in my country yet but I noticed with my previous note3 n9005 snapdragon if your 3G provider supports h+ (hspa or something) the connection is upgraded to H+ (and shown in the status bar as h+ instead of 3g)
with exynos unable to connect to 3g as h+ (same location same operator) hope this is a modem thing and could be fixed via custom or official update in the future coz h+ is definitively faster than 3g at least with my operator.
the Korean characters did also bug me so I had to install a 3rd party dialer

From my experience with the G906S...even if you are connected to H+ the icon still stays at 3G.

otacon888 said:
From my experience with the G906S...even if you are connected to H+ the icon still stays at 3G.
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Correct. Just tested 13 mbps download speed when signal reported as 3G!

same problem
invisiblesense said:
I too have Note 4 snapdragon and the Exnyos Edge. Very impressed with the edge. I would not swap it for snapdragon model.
Yes you end up some useless Korean apps but uninstall most. Korean characters on the dialer is the only thing thats currently bothering me.
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I am very happy now after i install true dialer from play store just to get rid of thoes korean words

So OP, what did you bought? & hows your exp?

saifbukhari said:
So OP, what did you bought? & hows your exp?
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I bought the Korean N915S phone and I am very happy with it.
The performance is good as expected. I waiting for someone to find a way to get the Korean text out of the phone dialer but apart from that it is a great phone.
I am currently running Skyhigh rom from "UpInTheAir". Thanks for a nice rom. Hope he carries on with updates as new firmwares are released.
Here are some pictures of my phone.

Here is a test run of Antutu.
Antutu = 49771

Finally found a better full screen protector for my Note Edge.
It is anti glare though but it covers the full screen (edge to edge)

MCube74 said:
Finally found a better full screen protector for my Note Edge.
It is anti glare though but it covers the full screen (edge to edge)
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do share its link please...

Here is my new result with Antutu using SkyHigh Rom and DVFS disabled
Antutu = 50188

onours said:
do share its link please...
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http://www.healingshield.co

Last week I got the S Charger cover for my Note Edge. I also put 3M protection for the phone body and back cover so that I don't need to put a case on. It is much easier to carry it without a case.

New TMobile software update 146.91MB battery seem improved screenshot included.

This is a T mobile update
Let's discuss the result. Exciting time, not expect to see update this fast, but man I just want this problem to be solved. Do I need clean cache after update? Security patch has been updated to April. I feel like I'm looking at a new Samsung with timely software update!
After some more usage with the new update I think it is safe to say that battery life now is much more consistent. I don't have stuff that jumps out that suddenly drain 200 mAh of my battery where android system consistently responsible for 1300 mAh to 1600 mAh of battery loss per day.
However, I still think there are still a lot of improvement on the software side can be made to improve this phone (including battery optimization). Hopefully Samsung can continue the development of the software to discover all the potential of this phone.
Still looking forward to the Android N as well.
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Pretty large update.

Report please sprint had same notes it might go official soon

emptydream said:
Let's discuss the result. Exciting time, not expect to see update this fast, but man I just want this problem to be solved. Do I need clean cache after update? Security patch has been updated to April. I feel like I'm looking at a new Samsung with timely software update!
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There's a seperate thread voor the T-Mobile S7Edge:
Forums for the T-Mobile Galaxy S7 Edge

I'm pretty sure other carrier will get it soon, just want to share some early result and thought

henklbr said:
There's a seperate thread voor the T-Mobile S7Edge:
Forums for the T-Mobile Galaxy S7 Edge
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We know this.....In my opinion however I'm sure there are plenty of other S7 Edge users who don't have T-Mobile versions and would like to know there is a fix on the horizon.
Whether you're on T-Mobile or not, this information is still pretty useful to most users.
Get my drift?

I have the APC8 version since like 2 weeks ago (I have the International Exynos version). Battery life is indeed much improved after this update, but I'm not sure if this also applies for the Snapdragon 820.

Where's AT&T at? Looks like an improvement with regards to Android System battery drain.
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Hopefully it will be soon,if t-mobile has it all the other carriers should as well.

I have an unbranded phone from Vietnam (G935FD), does anyone know what the update trains are like for non-carrier phones? I haven't had a single update and I got the phone the day it was released. I'm experiencing heavy battery drain (and a very warm device from normal use), so I'm holding out hope that an update will fix it.

Have had the APC7 update for about a week on a SD820 (the greater China edition SM-9350), empirically battery life is quite a bit better. Android system is still #1 but that includes camera usage (what a battery drainer!)

ngmic said:
Have had the APC7 update for about a week on a SD820 (the greater China edition SM-9350), empirically battery life is quite a bit better. Android system is still #1 but that includes camera usage (what a battery drainer!)
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There's a PC9 update available for our SM-G9350 from what I can see online, but I haven't received the OTA yet. I'm on the HK version.

jrwingate6 said:
We know this.....In my opinion however I'm sure there are plenty of other S7 Edge users who don't have T-Mobile versions and would like to know there is a fix on the horizon.
Whether you're on T-Mobile or not, this information is still pretty useful to most users.
Get my drift?
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Other users (international NON-USA) don't have anything about this information:
The updates in the USA are OPERATOR-dependant and released, and are DIFFERENT from the international updates!
So: this info should be in the T-Mobile USA section of the S7Edge (it's created for that)!

After one day testing very happy with the result.

henklbr said:
Other users (international NON-USA) don't have anything about this information:
The updates in the USA are OPERATOR-dependant and released, and are DIFFERENT from the international updates!
So: this info should be in the T-Mobile USA section of the S7Edge (it's created for that)!
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International users don't have an issue with Android System battery drain.
This thread is for the US users and they have the right to be informed that there is an update coming soon to their provider that will fix it. You're not from the US so I wouldn't expect you to know how provider updates work here. T-Mobile is usually the quickest getting them out and then it follows by Sprint, ATT and Verizon.
This thread is to let those users on other US networks know that they are about to be shown the light at the end of the tunnel. Nothing more, nothing less.
If you're an international user then you need not apply.

jrwingate6 said:
International users don't have an issue with Android System battery drain.
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You will not have an issue either, once you will learn that this is actually the idle power draw of the Snapdragon 820 processor and not much can be done about it.

Cst79 said:
You will not have an issue either, once you will learn that this is actually the idle power draw of the Snapdragon 820 processor and not much can be done about it.
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Except that there can. The update out for T-Mobile users fixes it. From what I've seen in screenshots, it gets it down to that of Exynos phones.

gettinwicked said:
Except that there can. The update out for T-Mobile users fixes it. From what I've seen in screenshots, it gets it down to that of Exynos phones.
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Well, hopefully, but the Android System drain on Exynos is at around 3% while after the update on SD820 it goes down from around 30% to around 20%.

Cst79 said:
Well, hopefully, but the Android System drain on Exynos is at around 3% while after the update on SD820 it goes down from around 30% to around 20%.
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I think is less of about percentage it showing. As you can see, I don't use my phone like 5 hours a day or something like that. Even without update, I can also pull 5 hours screen on time if I just keep using it or read book on it. If you look into the Android system drain compare on mAh level is huge different. Used to be 1700 mAh for android system now is less than 400 mAh per day. That's much more than just 10% of difference. What I'm excited about is the improvement on the idle time where I use it to check massage and respond once every three or five min.

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Except that there can. The update out for T-Mobile users fixes it. From what I've seen in screenshots, it gets it down to that of Exynos phones.
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From what I can see it just draws less and don't fix it..still over 30% with both android and system while the international have way less combined (10%). See pic