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Engadget have just posted their official review of a final GT unit:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/01/samsung-galaxy-tab-review/
Overall it seems favourable, but not glowing. Mostly citing issues that are still due to FroYo's lacking support of the higher resolution screen and Samsungs stop-gap measures to adapt it. They liked the actual hardware, seemed ok with Samsungs custom UI, nice screen, reasonable battery life.
Here's hoping it ends up getting Android 3.0 one way or another.
I found it to be pretty much spot on.
And yes it is pretty favorable as the device is indeed top notch.
We’ve now produced a 'Mega' review of the HTC Sensation and Samsung Galaxy SII going head to head on all aspects of the phones. We thought you may be interested in reading the review. It starts:
Recently two new 'super phones' have been unleashed into the marketplace on the Android platform and thanks to our good friends at O2 UK we've been given the chance to produce a head-to-head review of both machines. We are of course talking dual core here and that means the Sensation from HTC and the Galaxy SII from Samsung.
Both machines are dual core with embedded graphics processors on board but they are designed in different ways with respect to the hardware and seemingly the end user market. The Sensation uses a half-shell body design and appears at first glance to be a big brother to the Desire S. The Galaxy SII is constructed from plastic and follows on from the hardware first encountered in the original Galaxy S model.
As we move through the review we'll look in turn at the differences in hardware and the custom user interfaces employed by the manufacturers, looking at the positive and negatives of each machine. The aim being not to show which is the 'best in class' machine, but to enable you to make up your own mind as to which machine would suit you as a prospective owner.
You can read the full review online here:
http://www.smartphonegurus.com/forums/topic/13554-mega-review-htc-sensation-v-samsung-galaxy-sii/
Waste of time reading that, I got the impression that reviewer lacked a neutral position in his write up or is a n00b.
Completely neutral mate and with a long standing reputation for accuracy. I've been impartially and honestly reviewing for over 10 years now.
What I printed is what I found after a lot of usage and testing.
If you disagree then please post your findings and let the discussions commence.
That is a super big review... Great work
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Completely neutral mate and with a long standing reputation for accuracy. I've been impartially and honestly reviewing for over 10 years now.
What I printed is what I found after a lot of usage and testing.
If you disagree then please post your findings and let the discussions commence.
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I've compared the photos from both phones on a screen at full resolution and I cannot agree with what you're saying about the sensation producing the more natural colours and true photo. In my experience the Galaxy S produces the more honest picture of the subjects in the photo and with better quality. I also found the battery life to be the exact opposite of what you've published with my workmate not being able to leave his charger for his Sensation at home as the device cannot last a workday without needing to be recharged whilst I get close to 48 hours on mine between charge and that is will fairly heavy use.
lol what a htc fanboy.. look at those pros/cons list... gtfo.
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Completely neutral mate and with a long standing reputation for accuracy. I've been impartially and honestly reviewing for over 10 years now.
What I printed is what I found after a lot of usage and testing.
If you disagree then please post your findings and let the discussions commence.
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My god,
I hope reviewing isn't your day job, horrendous taste and ability to perceive reality.
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Waste of time reading that, I got the impression that reviewer lacked a neutral position in his write up or is a n00b.
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+1
Also, considering how late this review is out compared to others, none of real world pros and cons of both devices as reported by users seems to be taken in to account or explored. And the "cons" for the SGS2? Battery cover, long pressing the menu key to search, and some applications force close? A bit of a reach, no? And in spite of all the issues users are reporting on the Sensation forum, the cons are a locked boot loader and lack of NAND? I applaud the amount of detail and work that went in to the review by the creator but in spite of the statement of being unbiased its imbedded in the editorial.
I'm not sure how you came up with "dismal battery life" for the SGII. I have the phone and the battery is solid. I get an average of 16 hours of battery life, with around 30% to spare when I plug it in. This is with 4 exchange e-mail accounts on push, texting and checking e-mail throughout the day, etc.
Also, all of the other photo comparisons I have seen show the GSII to be the better shooter. Phonearena gave the Sensation poor marks on the camera. It seems to be a mixed bag for that phone, but I consistently see high marks for the GSII camera in every review I read.
Given your results on both camera and battery life, I would have to question your testing methodology. You also claimed both phones were fast web browsers, but videos on Phonedog clearly showed the Sensation lagging and stuttering during web browsing, where the GSII was completely smooth.
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He had a HTC phone thats were the 3rd phone came from in the pics. mybee not as bias as already knew his way around htc sence. so sgs made nosence. It has a few things u forgot to even commit on.
Sgs is for power users and htc is for those who just whant a phone.
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lol what a htc fanboy.. look at those pros/cons list... gtfo.
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Yeah seems to have a pretty obvious htc tilt with too many subjective conclusions.
Also not very thorough with his review. On a cursory flip-through I found the following errors:
1. Call answer screen of SGSII also shows the latest FB update of the caller if social hub is activated.
2. Camera: Metering :OP suggests SGSII does only centre weighted metering & not matrix mode - Untrue- option available under menu.
3. Geotag: OP suggests no geotagging in SGSII: Incorrect. Geotagging option in menu. Geotag shows up just fine in picasa.
4. Alarm: SGSII has snooze settings & options for number & duration of snooze in menu.
5. Long pressing the menu bar brings up the standard Search box (Not a web only search)- I use it to routinely search and start apps so I know.
6. OP mentions 'added functionality' of the sensation browser to highlight text in browser and copy, search or share it. This 'added' functionality is added in SGSII as well.
7. A 'big' bonus appeared to be the locations app which OP says provides turn-by-turn GPS 'based on free of charge map data'. Sounded great till the next para which said one could start a '30 day trial of the Premium Navigation system and test out the turn-by-turn GPS navigation system' ?
8. The battery graph looked somewhat iffy as well. However the set could have been wonky seeing how some people seemed to have battery problems on the SGSII- I've had it once caused by a misbehaving app.. However, I'm happy my SGSII does a lot more while consuming lot less battery. (My blog link below has some battery life screenshots from the android battery graph)
9. Cons list 'some' applications on the SII force close. As OP mentions, I too have had the APMobile force close once. None of the others did. Skeptic about the 'some' bit.
This was from a quick read. There could be other inconsistencies in the review as well.
Healthy dose of salt please.
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I've compared the photos from both phones on a screen at full resolution and I cannot agree with what you're saying about the sensation producing the more natural colours and true photo. In my experience the Galaxy S produces the more honest picture of the subjects in the photo and with better quality. I also found the battery life to be the exact opposite of what you've published with my workmate not being able to leave his charger for his Sensation at home as the device cannot last a workday without needing to be recharged whilst I get close to 48 hours on mine between charge and that is will fairly heavy use.
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Ditto with the battery life.
Not much of a camera expert but viewed on a regular screen the colours seem neutral (On the phone screen it does appear a touch vivid).
Found some other errors i mentioned in my last post as well.
How is the pro of the sensation "Godly" amount of RAM at 768mb and the S2 only a "good" amount of RAM at 1gb? Also sense takes up a ****LOAD of RAM...
Just watched a video review online comparing the two devices lol... only thing HTC beat the S2 on was linpack score... and even then my NOT overclocked S2 got a better score than it. You could tell from the video that browsing was clearly smoother on the S2 too. Hmmm glad I bought this over the sensation tbh...
I also think this device is more likely get get special attention in the dev community. Ah well. Both good phones either way.
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Only 1 thing needs said flash addict. Unlocked bootloaders.
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tuhinz said:
Yeah seems to have a pretty obvious htc tilt with too many subjective conclusions.
Also not very thorough with his review. On a cursory flip-through I found the following errors:
1. Call answer screen of SGSII also shows the latest FB update of the caller if social hub is activated.
2. Camera: Metering :OP suggests SGSII does only centre weighted metering & not matrix mode - Untrue- option available under menu.
3. Geotag: OP suggests no geotagging in SGSII: Incorrect. Geotagging option in menu. Geotag shows up just fine in picasa.
4. Alarm: SGSII has snooze settings & options for number & duration of snooze in menu.
5. Long pressing the menu bar brings up the standard Search box (Not a web only search)- I use it to routinely search and start apps so I know.
6. OP mentions 'added functionality' of the sensation browser to highlight text in browser and copy, search or share it. This 'added' functionality is added in SGSII as well.
7. A 'big' bonus appeared to be the locations app which OP says provides turn-by-turn GPS 'based on free of charge map data'. Sounded great till the next para which said one could start a '30 day trial of the Premium Navigation system and test out the turn-by-turn GPS navigation system' ?
8. The battery graph looked somewhat iffy as well. However the set could have been wonky seeing how some people seemed to have battery problems on the SGSII- I've had it once caused by a misbehaving app.. However, I'm happy my SGSII does a lot more while consuming lot less battery. (My blog link below has some battery life screenshots from the android battery graph)
9. Cons list 'some' applications on the SII force close. As OP mentions, I too have had the APMobile force close once. None of the others did. Skeptic about the 'some' bit.
This was from a quick read. There could be other inconsistencies in the review as well.
Healthy dose of salt please.
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Woah! You read the whole thing? After I my BS radar started to tick I only skimmed it. You're a very studious bloke.
Similarly, I also get 1.5 days worth of usage ...usually have 40%+ at the end of a day so clearly something was wrong in the review (old firmware?).
And I do lose a lot of respect for a reviewer who doesn't know that long pressing the menu button emulates the search button....poor form there.
Beginning with the screen, I think you find extremely difficult to ever let yourself say that the SII has the advantage in anything. Even Engadget admits that the SAMOLED+ is a superb screen, but I find it amazing that your conclusion (last paragraph of that section) of it is that it is "grainy" and "unrealistic" whilst the HTC is concluded to be of good "clarity"...really? If that's unbiased....I would hate to see what your biased is.
I could go through each section and show you how biased you are but for simplicities sake, the amount of times you used "impressive" to describe the Sensation is quite impressive in itself. And the amount of times that the SII is odd or weird... really? Looking at the email section, I don't quite get the the unusualness of the features...wouldn't useful be a better description? Bias at its finest again.
In Camera, you again missed the ability of the SII to customise the shortcuts as the user wants. As for geo-tagging....did you even open the options? Geotagging is right there...along with the other features from blink detection, anti-shake...
Now take your conclusion to the benchmarks section...its conclusion is the the Sensation can do better later....I'm sorry you are *comparing* right? So at some point the words SII completely trashed the Sensation should be in the final paragraph to that section, no? That whole section is a justificiation that despite the Sensations low scores, its better than the Desire S (really, thats what your comparing to?) and runs smooth in day-to-day operations...How about the SII? Amazing scores, silky smooth performance noted by many reviews to be smoother than the Sensation. Bias...again. A conclusion should be Both phones are extremely smooth in most operations, with the SII having a slight edge in web browsing and also holding the crown in benchmarks.
Keyboard...you did look at settings right? And saw the XT9 word prediction option? Again, thorough review.
If you can compare additional features in one phone (locations) surely you should do likewise in the other? What about Kies Wifi allowing the SII to transfer files, stream music or control most phone functions simply from a web browser. And Vlingo voice control and Driving Mode? All passed over since this review wasn't really a comparison, it was a self-justification of how the Sensation was a better phone.
Poor "comparative" review. Even Engadget seems less biased.
Intratech said:
Woah! You read the whole thing? After I my BS radar started to tick I only skimmed it. You're a very studious bloke.
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Heh heh. Thats coz the GF slept off!
..Actually the prodigious load of BS in the review angered me into writing it just so potential buyers arent taken in by the crap. Sensation Vs SGSII is a hot topic and I expect many buyers to skim xda for pointers.
It says a lot when nobody in the Sensation forum bothered to even reply to the OP after 104 views.
Hi guys, I'd appreciate any feedback.
http://hemorrdroids.net/samsung-galaxy-note-review/
Video portion here --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxxEm_P57JE
It's very well written and objective. I think that the best praise I could give is that you came with an open mind. When comparing to other reviews, many were immediately critical of Samsung for the large size - you acknowledged that it was for a niche audience.
Oh well ... there are people who like big phones.
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Hi guys, I'd appreciate any feedback.
http://hemorrdroids.net/samsung-galaxy-note-review/
Video portion here --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxxEm_P57JE
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It's pretty decent.
I remain amazed at how few reviews discuss how awesome it would be to use the Note as a GPS, with its fast lock time (GLONASS), large screen, and free Navigation. I think it's a big selling point, not just for the Note but for android as well.
- Frank
Agree with the comments above good review Andy and I am following you on youtube (along with NZtechfreak) as well.
Thanks guys
I'm a little annoyed with myself, I meant to put in a picture of me using it as a SatNav, as it certainly is very good for it. Maybe I'll edit it in this week
Very good review. Also matches pretty well my opinion of the device, except for camera that seams clearly worse then S2. I have the Note for an week and i took plenty of shot with it. I think the aperture of Note < S2, also the diameter of the lens is smaller
ChodTheWacko said:
It's pretty decent.
I remain amazed at how few reviews discuss how awesome it would be to use the Note as a GPS, with its fast lock time (GLONASS), large screen, and free Navigation. I think it's a big selling point, not just for the Note but for android as well.
- Frank
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Totally agree with you Frank
Great tip on Samsung Dive. Didn't know about that. Thanks given
mdalacu said:
except for camera that seams clearly worse then S2. I have the Note for an week and i took plenty of shot with it. I think the aperture of Note < S2, also the diameter of the lens is smaller
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Yeah, the only two shots I had I could directly compare, one I was worried it was more about weather, the other they looked very similar.
The only thing I would recommend (and this is for all Android phones) is that you abandon the usage of Quadrant as a benchmark. It is inaccurate in terms of real world performance. Sadly, it is also one of the most widely used.
As an alternative I would recommend perhaps Smartbench 2011.
Smartbench wont run on the Note though
Hey Andy, nice review, like your work - I'm pretty disenchanted with the major sites rubbish gadget reviews, it's really nice to see some of the highest quality ones coming from people such as yourself.
Agree with the dark lords comments about Quadrant as a benchmark too, I still include it because lots of people want to know, but I also make sure to include some better benchmarks. Smartbench and Chainfire bench are two of the better ones (of course as you say, and as I alluded to in my own review Smartbench is buckets o' fail for the Note right now).
Oh, and in terms of feedback - more screenshots are good, particularly in a Note review where you can annotate them from the device itself!
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The only thing I would recommend (and this is for all Android phones) is that you abandon the usage of Quadrant as a benchmark. It is inaccurate in terms of real world performance. Sadly, it is also one of the most widely used.
As an alternative I would recommend perhaps Smartbench 2011.
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their quadrant score seems a little low. mine hits 3865 running stock.
Nice review, however regarding the S-Note app, you can add pages by clicking the plus in the bottom right of the screen.
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sauron0101 said:
The only thing I would recommend (and this is for all Android phones) is that you abandon the usage of Quadrant as a benchmark. It is inaccurate in terms of real world performance. Sadly, it is also one of the most widely used.
As an alternative I would recommend perhaps Smartbench 2011.
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As we all can see AnTuTu is clearly gaining it's fair share of reputation and well worth it I believe.
As for benchmarks tests for PC's, they usually subjective to the performance and not real world scenarios.
Also about Quadrant, I agree with what you said 100% but since it's so widely used we can only use it as average of what we are "supposed" to get. Nothing more.
Didnt read any reviews yet , dont own the Note yet ( but I will, unless the Nexus Prime will change my mind), but I did my own testing and comparison tests on some showrooms and I am quite impressed....even the Yamaha dac is better implemented...
I just could not test the GPS...
The gps chipset on my sgs1 needs some assist but it does the Job.(see videos on my sign)
I read that the sgs2 got the sirfstarIV chipset which is impressive cause all my standalone Gps devices got the SirfstarIII.
Does the note got the Sirfstar IV as well?
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I have owned a lot of devices and SGN has the best GPS by far, yes, better than SGS2. Very accurate and quick!
Nice reviews thank you for taking the time. You reaffirmed what I suspected great device but big. For me considering my hand are big (+10" span) this actually will be better for people with large hands.
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Thanks for good review!
Today was Samsung Galaxy Note release day in my country Latvia and first 50 phones were sold by the half price LVL 263.50 (~$ 540,00). I was lucky to get one by the half price
Phone is realy amazing so far!
Here you can check the link:
http://www.galaxynote.lv/http://www.galaxynote.lv/
katinsh said:
Thanks for good review!
Today was Samsung Galaxy Note release day in my country Latvia and first 50 phones were sold by the half price LVL 263.50 (~). I was lucky to get one by the half price
Phone is realy amazing so far!
Here you can check the link:
http://www.galaxynote.lv/http://www.galaxynote.lv/
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Where's the BUY BUTTON?!
Guys,
Currently I am having OnePlus 2 and needs to update my phone. The phones in my mind are : 1. BB PRIV and 2. NB Robin.
I am planning to keep this phone for around 3 years. So the major concerns are as below :
1. OS Stability - The phone should be stable enough. Even if newer updates should be reaching the phone.
2. Camera should be good.
3. Battery - Battery life should be good. should come atleast for a day with high data usage.
I saw all the reviews but still couldn't come to a conclusion, budget is not a concern. So please help me to get out from this dilemma
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Guys,
Currently I am having OnePlus 2 and needs to update my phone. The phones in my mind are : 1. BB PRIV and 2. NB Robin.
I am planning to keep this phone for around 3 years. So the major concerns are as below :
1. OS Stability - The phone should be stable enough. Even if newer updates should be reaching the phone.
2. Camera should be good.
3. Battery - Battery life should be good. should come atleast for a day with high data usage.
I saw all the reviews but still couldn't come to a conclusion, budget is not a concern. So please help me to get out from this dilemma
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Hm, NextBit Robin is cloud data driven, not a cloud kind of person, concept is catchy though, haven't used the Priv yet to judge it or the Nb Robin either, looked at the NbR but they stopped the CDMA development so lost interest. Priv is secure, about all I know about it. IPS NbR versus AMOLED Priv, IPS wins.
Priv would be my choice of the 2, $0.02
I can't really offer much insight, since for me, my biggest motivating factor in purchasing a cellphone is whether it has a hardware keyboard or not. Since the Priv is the only device currently in the market that does, it wins all contests for me purely based on that fact.
But, as for your other areas of concern, the Priv is more than suitable in terms of stability and battery life for me, and the camera is quite possibly the best I've ever experienced, though I'm hardly a photographer, I rarely take pictures, but the pictures and video I have taken with my Priv have been incredible in quality.
Thread closed, please use the existing thread for these discussions.
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Google confirms the presentation of Android O for August 21
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Yep it's called "Oreo". And I don't believe it will come to our device.
If rumors will became truth and Z5 line will get 8,0 then i guess Sony would benefit much from this as advertisment.
Especially that Nexus 6P probably would get 8,0 so SD810 will have drivers for it.
really really hard to believe almost 2 years untill they released 7.1.1
Z3 Series was more then rumors sony released alpha\pilot for 7.0 and then they cancelled it , and stay'ed with 6
but! with will can get android 8.0 via custom roms,(just with no real camera drivers etc..)
i have even got 7/8 for my Xperia Ray From 2010 (but camera is only VGA even not HD, because of missing sources libs and offical drivers
Google says they worked close with all mayor OEMs, including Sony, so we can get the updates faster and that all supported devices should be updated by the end of the year. Now, whether Z5C is going to be updated is unknown and until we have something official we can only hope for someone releasing a custom Rom using the official blobs.... :/
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Google says they worked close with all mayor OEMs, including Sony, so we can get the updates faster and that all supported devices should be updated by the end of the year. Now, whether Z5C is going to be updated is unknown and until we have something official we can only hope for someone releasing a custom Rom using the official blobs.... :/
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I don't think the Z5 series will get 8.x any time soon. Like before, it'll be delayed a lot. Not because Sony have trouble developing a stable release. It'll be delayed so Sony can promote newer devices first. Then after a year or five, it'll be released for the Z5.
But to be honest I don't expect to have any 8.x working within a reasonable time, if at all.
Wouldn't hold my breath.
I decided to abandon this device. This device was disappointment in all levels: battery life, ram full 90% of time, heat management is truly awful and software is just horsecrap. 2 years of usage and still not sign of proper official supported custom rom. I just ordered Xiaomi Redmi Note 4, had to make decision based by development activity so it was kinda easy call for the price/specs. Never Sony again.
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Wouldn't hold my breath.
I decided to abandon this device. This device was disappointment in all levels: battery life, ram full 90% of time, heat management is truly awful and software is just horsecrap. 2 years of usage and still not sign of proper official supported custom rom. I just ordered Xiaomi Redmi Note 4, had to make decision based by development activity so it was kinda easy call for the price/specs. Never Sony again.
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i agree, also the speakers super super low, alot of software\hardware bugs
the only kind of good thing its the camera (only in good light its even better from samsung s8 (i compred to a friend, because of more details in the photos like distanced sign or close flower,,although it's almost doubled 12MP>23MP, it feels like maybe 2-3MP more. and samsung got much better details in low light shots
MakeHav0 said:
Wouldn't hold my breath.
I decided to abandon this device. This device was disappointment in all levels: battery life, ram full 90% of time, heat management is truly awful and software is just horsecrap. 2 years of usage and still not sign of proper official supported custom rom. I just ordered Xiaomi Redmi Note 4, had to make decision based by development activity so it was kinda easy call for the price/specs. Never Sony again.
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i agree, also the speakers super super low, alot of software\hardware bugs
the only kind of good thing its the camera (only in good light its even better from samsung s8 (i compred to a friend, because of more details in the photos like distanced sign or close flower,,although it's almost doubled 12MP>23MP, it feels like maybe 2-3MP more. and samsung got much better details in low light shots
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I got a perfectly working LineageOS 14.1 going here. No problems at all.
I'd say that you shouldn't blame the device for a poor ROM, flash and/or misbehaving apps.
(free RAM is useless RAM. having lots of free RAM is not how Android operates)
SysGhost said:
I got a perfectly working LineageOS 14.1 going here. No problems at all.
I'd say that you shouldn't blame the device for a poor ROM, flash and/or misbehaving apps.
(free RAM is useless RAM. having lots of free RAM is not how Android operates)
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I agree on that free ram is useless, but the problem is that my ram usage is basically 100% of time at 1.7gb because Im extreme multitasker, so it doesn't serve well my usage and lag is enormous ofc. Sony did a mistake by not making this 3gb+ ram device.
Android 8.0 will be available through the AOSP project
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Android 8.0 will be available through the AOSP project
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Lol.
Talking about proper software right there
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Lol.
Talking about proper software right there
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haha yeah
To be honest, I was hoping for the update. The Z5 line was presented in the first days of September back in 2015 so upgrading it to Oreo would be very nice from Sony and yet would observe the 2 years policy the company follows.
I don't think I will use Xperia phones anymore. I don't see the dev community they have some years ago (anyway I prefer NFC payments rather than root) and my experience with the Z5 Compact (daily usage and support) haven't been as good as I expected.
Superrman said:
really really hard to believe almost 2 years untill they released 7.1.1
Z3 Series was more then rumors sony released alpha\pilot for 7.0 and then they cancelled it , and stay'ed with 6
but! with will can get android 8.0 via custom roms,(just with no real camera drivers etc..)
i have even got 7/8 for my Xperia Ray From 2010 (but camera is only VGA even not HD, because of missing sources libs and offical drivers
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Woah i miss my ray. Miss those days when jader were making good roms for us