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Gingerbread out to Testers

Looks like I didn't make the cut to be among the 1000 beta testers, dang it. I completed the survey within 15 mins of receiving the email, guess that wasn't fast enough.
Fingers crossed no issues are found and everyone gets it soon.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/0...erbread-update-rolls-out-to-some-users-today/

i dont know why people are acting like gingerbread isn't already here...

You don't want the OTA. The upgrade in SOAK will stop you flashing back. After its released the devs will dig into it to see what is different to the leaked OTA.
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Just because you dont have the OTA yet doesnt mean you where not picked. When its full the survey actually closes so if you filled it out you usually get the Soak. And like stated dont blindly update the OTA if you are unlocked or dont want to risk not being able to downgrade.

Magnetox said:
i dont know why people are acting like gingerbread isn't already here...
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Maybe because our build is full of small bugs. Jus' sayin'
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Kenns gingerbread 4.5.91 for AT&T has no issues except battery jumping around. Install the patch to fix and bam perfect.
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CaelanT said:
You don't want the OTA. The upgrade in SOAK will stop you flashing back. After its released the devs will dig into it to see what is different to the leaked OTA.
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So, as of right now, I am running 1.83 with GladiAtrix, locked bootloader, and very happy.
When the OTA goes out to everybody who is on AT&T, who isn't in the SOAK, I know that I will have to flash back in order to actually get the OTA because of the changes to my file system. You are saying that this new OTA will prohibit me from being able to unlock my bootloader, when the time comes that I want to do that?

Personally I don't do custom ROMs (or unlock the bootloader) until the phone is out of warranty or Moto made it official not to release new updates. I can't rely on bugs in custom ROMs...learned the hard way a while back.
With that said, didn't Moto hint to be unlocking the bootloader with the Gingerbread update?

spielnicht said:
Personally I don't do custom ROMs (or unlock the bootloader) until the phone is out of warranty or Moto made it official not to release new updates. I can't rely on bugs in custom ROMs...learned the hard way a while back.
With that said, didn't Moto hint to be unlocking the bootloader with the Gingerbread update?
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they did but then ken got word from someone at motorola that they wont be

Viamonte said:
Maybe because our build is full of small bugs. Jus' sayin'
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The soak version is identical to the stock version posted here a couple weeks ago.

GatorRuss said:
So, as of right now, I am running 1.83 with GladiAtrix, locked bootloader, and very happy.
When the OTA goes out to everybody who is on AT&T, who isn't in the SOAK, I know that I will have to flash back in order to actually get the OTA because of the changes to my file system. You are saying that this new OTA will prohibit me from being able to unlock my bootloader, when the time comes that I want to do that?
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The OTA that was released a little while bricked people who tried to SBF down to a lower firmware. This OTA will most likely do the exact same thing.
I'm not sure if Pudding would work or not with this future OTA.

spielnicht said:
Personally I don't do custom ROMs (or unlock the bootloader) until the phone is out of warranty or Moto made it official not to release new updates. I can't rely on bugs in custom ROMs...learned the hard way a while back.
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Take a look at the iPhone. Might be more along the lines of what you are looking for.

Jnewell05 said:
Kenns gingerbread 4.5.91 for AT&T has no issues except battery jumping around. Install the patch to fix and bam perfect.
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At&t version must be rewponsible for 30% of the market or less. I'm talking about the international version. Battery life sucks , wallpapers take a phone reset to re apply, widgets may go missing, some phones are overheating... of fourse, some have no problems at all, but this is certainly not a final release.
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Flashing around with RSD is bad in general. There wont be a reason to flash back to older builds since the bootloader is now unlocked. One little glitch while using RSD can result in a brick. Careful what you post about the Moto-OTA test. The main email said not to mention anything about the soak. This is the 4th post I have seen about it now even if you didnt get in, the NDA was still agreed too and now violated again.

Iberian80 said:
Take a look at the iPhone. Might be more along the lines of what you are looking for.
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Just because I don't care for custom ROMs doesn't mean I want a crappy OS[x]. Who made up the rule that if you own an Android phone it's a requirement to install custom ROMs. You? If so, sorry son, your argument is flawed. Go troll somewhere else.

Dirtburgler said:
Flashing around with RSD is bad in general. There wont be a reason to flash back to older builds since the bootloader is now unlocked. One little glitch while using RSD can result in a brick. Careful what you post about the Moto-OTA test. The main email said not to mention anything about the soak. This is the 4th post I have seen about it now even if you didnt get in, the NDA was still agreed too and now violated again.
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The OP said nothing about getting an email from moto, he linked to a blog that mentioned it. he even stated that he was not chosen for the soak test. you should write the author of that blog to inform them that they are breaking the moto NDA.

neotekz said:
The OP said nothing about getting an email from moto, he linked to a blog that mentioned it. he even stated that he was not chosen for the soak test. you should write the author of that blog to inform them that they are breaking the moto NDA.
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You can only take the survey after you have agreed to the NDA. He clearly stated he got the email then took the survey. Wow
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THATS NOT TRUE SO DON NOT TROLL I CAN ASSURE YOU IS NOT BYTE BY BYTE IDENTICAL
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The soak version is identical to the stock version posted here a couple weeks ago.
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spielnicht said:
Just because I don't care for custom ROMs doesn't mean I want a crappy OS[x]. Who made up the rule that if you own an Android phone it's a requirement to install custom ROMs. You? If so, sorry son, your argument is flawed. Go troll somewhere else.
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maybe you don't need an iphone, but you probably shouldn't be on xda if you're anti-rom.

neotekz said:
The OP said nothing about getting an email from moto, he linked to a blog that mentioned it. he even stated that he was not chosen for the soak test. you should write the author of that blog to inform them that they are breaking the moto NDA.
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lol wow, do you know how to read? go back and re read the op.

Hey Google, Why Can’t Motorola Put Out a Jelly Bean Phone When You OWN MOTOROLA?

I just read an article on Gizmodo with same topic so wanted to share it with the community to answer the big question, Why don't Google do some thing good with Motorola and its old devices.
http://gizmodo.com/5940715/hey-goog...-out-a-jelly-bean-phone-when-you-own-motorola

Ask NASA why they cannot send a man to the Moon like in 1969?
"All you need is money..."

sms2000 said:
Ask NASA why they cannot send a man to the Moon like in 1969?
"All you need is money..."
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True and since they recently downsize 20% i think we should give them some time before they start to kick so ass. After all they are Mother [email protected]#$%^& Google.

Well, at least they are offering Jelly Bean/ $100 discount for those who own Motorola devices launched in 2011 and later.. That's a start, yeah?
Sent from that Atrix... Motorola, where's my ICS?!

Yeah...in the US only ! Because **** the rest of the world right ?

DannyBiker said:
Yeah...in the US only ! Because **** the rest of the world right ?
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Honesty so few people know or care about updates have like 3 friends with droids that didn't know their sensations had upgrades waiting. So obviously we are the vast minority. Also who on xda doesn't have an unlocked bootloader. I'm sure we'll have fruitcakes soon after the us launch
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About three months ago I purchased Samsung Galaxy Note for its screen size mainly. Getting to that age it hurts looking at small screen for a long period of time. Unfortunately, I have been left without my Samsung Galaxy Note for a month because of the mess and very poor service I have received from my network provider. On the happy note, I'm collecting a brand new one today. So I have been using my Atrix heavily again in the past month.
I have now owned my Atrix for over a year now and I can say I have never been happy with the software side of Atrix. When I started using Samsung Note I even more realised how badly Atrix's ROM was cooked. I own the international version of Atrix and Motorola never released any updates after the GB firmware upgrade in the UK. I'm extremely furious I had to put up with Motorola's shortcomings and ignorance towards its international users.
I cannot simply throw away my Atrix as I still need the phone as Samsung Galaxy Note is too big to carry in my pocket. I rather carry Atrix in my pocket than Note but I prefer using Note for everything else and Note is a pleasure to use for both reading and writing. I love it.
I have never unlocked the bootloader for the warranty reason first and then I don't believe custom ROMs are that better when it comes to the reliability. What deeply bothers me is that Motorola will not allow I unlock the bootloader legally/officially even after my two year european warranty is over. Take my word for it I would unlock the BL after the warranty is over should I need to and wouldn't give a monkey to Google/Motorola about it.
Atrix would still be a good backup phone even for the entire 2013 so I am wishing Motorola would finally do the right/honorable thing by releasing a solid ROM, be it ICS or JB. There is a significant difference between GB and ICS when it comes to user-experience and that is why Atrix will shine with it.
As it stands, I would never give my money to the Motorola again even if they had the best phones on the market. Making promises to the new customers when you have not shown loyalty to your old customers only shows your business hasn't been changed. I would have believed Motorola when they gave international users a solid quarter release date for older devices when on stage trying to sell new handsets. What Motorola did to international Atrix users and other devices is not something I would forget that easily. I will always be there to tell my experience about you, Motorola.

jonnyboyC13 said:
Also who on xda doesn't have an unlocked bootloader.
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All those people that had the latest official update installed which came with an unlockable bootloader.

Google owns Motorola but they are not getting any special treatment. They have to wait lie any other manufacturer.
Motorola unveils 3 new Razr phones : http://usat.ly/RLZI8u
Read towards the bottom.
"Woodside says Motorola is not getting favorable treatment from Google though it's now part of the Google family. "Motorola is treated the way every other (manufacturer) is treated," he said during an interview. The company receives the Android software code the same day that rival handset makers get it. And Google doesn't get any special exposure to Motorola engineers."
That being said, this thread's question is answered.
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ravilov said:
All those people that had the latest official update installed which came with an unlockable bootloader.
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All those people that had the latest official update installed which came with a LOCKED bootloader.
There, fixed it for you...
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consolation said:
All those people that had the latest official update installed which came with a LOCKED bootloader.
There, fixed it for you...
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No, he's right, a lot of people got their Atrixes with an unlockable bootloader, you can find plenty of info about it here in the forum.
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sms2000 said:
Ask NASA why they cannot send a man to the Moon like in 1969?
"All you need is money..."
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Did they..... ?
u gotta be kidding me

MaxK47 said:
No, he's right, a lot of people got their Atrixes with an unlockable bootloader, you can find plenty of info about it here in the forum.
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No! They got a LOCKED bootloader.
Unlockable = can be unlocked and unsigned firmware installed.
Locked = can NOT be unlocked, you can ONLY install official signed firmware from Motorola.
Even if English is your second language, this is basic grammar.
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consolation said:
No! They got a LOCKED bootloader.
Unlockable = can be unlocked and unsigned firmware installed.
Locked = can NOT be unlocked, you can ONLY install official signed firmware from Motorola.
Even if English is your second language, this is basic grammar.
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OK, fine. I guess what I meant was UNunlockable.
Nitpick.
EDIT: I guess the actual proper term would be "non-unlockable".

ravilov said:
OK, fine. I guess what I meant was UNunlockable.
Nitpick.
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To his credit, you did say the exact opposite of what you were trying to communicate I chuckled at ununlockable though.
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4.4 Kit Kat to arrive "in a matter of weeks"

If the build date of the leaks wasn't enough proof that Motorola is very busy working on Kit Kat, let this be further proof:
http://www.androidcentral.com/moto-x-get-android-44-kitkat-matter-weeks
Needless to say, I am impressed.

I hope so, im in pain seeing users here from AT&T enjoying their 4.4.

And then Verizon "tests" it for next 9 months.
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xpc21 said:
I hope so, im in pain seeing users here from AT&T enjoying their 4.4.
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I'm talking more on Motorola's end. This is quite admirable what they're doing.
Obviously, the carriers will **** around like they always do. But that's not Motorola's fault really.

NoNameAtAll said:
I'm talking more on Motorola's end. This is quite admirable what they're doing.
Obviously, the carriers will **** around like they always do. But that's not Motorola's fault really.
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I never understood why the carriers didn't have an opt-in program to get updates ASAP that essentially cut off your customer service if you opted in. Here, you can do it, but no, we won't help you. Its a flag on your account, so anywhere you go they'll see it and know not to help you. Their point is that they don't want to help people on 'untested' updates... fine then, don't help them. But this would be a HUGE PR boon for whatever carrier does it.

This is good news! Hopefully Verizon won't be too far behind. Maybe a couple weeks like the camera update.

Verizon soak test emails are being sent out

Yup I can confirm i just got an email for the vzw soak test
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seanrobot said:
Yup I can confirm i just got an email for the vzw soak test
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Accidental thanks Dumb question ahead, but whats a soak test?

anirudh412 said:
Accidental thanks Dumb question ahead, but whats a soak test?
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It's basically an opt-in staged roll out. If you register, you have the ability to be the first to receive an update... so there's a sizeable pool for motorola to determine if there are any major bugs before giving it to the masses. Typically, these things happen and everyone else gets the update about a week later.

anirudh412 said:
Accidental thanks Dumb question ahead, but whats a soak test?
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A soak test is where a group of people are chosen to do a sort of private beta test on the firmware, to make sure things don't assplode or catch fire before the software is rolled out to everyone.

mecasull said:
It's basically an opt-in staged roll out. If you register, you have the ability to be the first to receive an update... so there's a sizeable pool for motorola to determine if there are any major bugs before giving it to the masses. Typically, these things happen and everyone else gets the update about a week later.
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A soak test is where a group of people are chosen to do a sort of private beta test on the firmware, to make sure things don't assplode or catch fire before the software is rolled out to everyone.
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I see! Funny name though

xpc21 said:
A soak test is where a group of people are chosen to do a sort of private beta test on the firmware, to make sure things don't assplode or catch fire before the software is rolled out to everyone.
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such original wording!
http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-moto-x-soak-test-invites-going-out-again

Hadn't registered my X for MFN since i just got it Friday. I went in now and registered. We'll see if I get an invite

KidJoe said:
Hadn't registered my X for MFN since i just got it Friday. I went in now and registered. We'll see if I get an invite
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What's MFN?

br0nx finest said:
What's MFN?
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It is mototora forum page.

br0nx finest said:
What's MFN?
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Motorola feedback network.
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/77d4221775
You need to do it if you want to have a chance at being invited for soak.

Verizon guys are already getting soak tests and us Dev Edition owners have nothing. Weird.

icase81 said:
I never understood why the carriers didn't have an opt-in program to get updates ASAP that essentially cut off your customer service if you opted in. Here, you can do it, but no, we won't help you. Its a flag on your account, so anywhere you go they'll see it and know not to help you. Their point is that they don't want to help people on 'untested' updates... fine then, don't help them. But this would be a HUGE PR boon for whatever carrier does it.
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It's probably because to most people updates are not something they think about. The people that unsupported updates would appeal to are probably very small and at least to the carriers probably seems more complicated to have more programs rather than less.
The other concern of theirs isn't support. It's about their network. Verizon is really strict about how their network can be used and that's a big part of the reason that ATT got the iPhone for years before verizon. They want absolute control over how the network is used probably due to a fear of a small number of devices clogging up bandwidth.
The funny thing is in spite of the rules bootloaders get unlocked. Phones get rooted. ROMs get flashed and it doesn't seem to cause many apparent problems.
Edit: and I'll just add that most carrier support is clueless anyway - most answers are
-reset your phone
-delete all of your apps.
-do something you already tried.

I hope 4.4 kit kat won't affect Moto X's good battery life.

Hints on lollipop release date!

I was talking to live chat with Motorola support and managed to get connected to an employee who seemed to not care that the chat session was monitored.
I was asking about general stuff related to my battery and the Turbo. Towards the end of the chat I figured this guy might have some kind of idea whats going on in the company that he works for. So I asked about the release date for 5.0.
He answered very enthusiastically and hinted that Motorola is ready to release the update and that the only thing next on their list is to select an official Advert with Verizon. From the sound of it - we will not be experiencing the usual delay that Verizon has created for updates. Expect Lollipop on your Droid Turbo by December 1st.
Me personally. I'm waiting for root and boot unlock. But for all of you happy with Lollipop the wait is not too long.
Lets see if this all plays true come December 1st.

ccheww said:
I was talking to live chat with Motorola support and managed to get connected to an employee who seemed to not care that the chat session was monitored.
I was asking about general stuff related to my battery and the Turbo. Towards the end of the chat I figured this guy might have some kind of idea whats going on in the company that he works for. So I asked about the release date for 5.0.
He answered very enthusiastically and hinted that Motorola is ready to release the update and that the only thing next on their list is to select an official Advert with Verizon. From the sound of it - we will not be experiencing the usual delay that Verizon has created for updates. Expect Lollipop on your Droid Turbo by December 1st.
Me personally. I'm waiting for root and boot unlock. But for all of you happy with Lollipop the wait is not too long.
Lets see if this all plays true come December 1st.
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Thanks for the heads up. I thought it would be fast but not that fast. I figured they pretty much wanted it to run 5.0 very soon after launch.

civiksi said:
Thanks for the heads up. I thought it would be fast but not that fast. I figured they pretty much wanted it to run 5.0 very soon after launch.
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It looks like Motorola wont be putting too much effort into rolling out updates for kitkat, instead it appears all the fixes and issues will be done through lollipop. Its all just perspective. Ive been told things like this before...

ccheww said:
It looks like Motorola wont be putting too much effort into rolling out updates for kitkat, instead it appears all the fixes and issues will be done through lollipop. Its all just perspective. Ive been told things like this before...
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I was hoping the very few minimal complaints I have with this phone will be fixed in lollipop. Camera for example. That lag!

Lollipop schmollipop...
First things first:
Where's Advanced Calling with VoLTE?
I need my mobile data while talking!

mattlach said:
Lollipop schmollipop...
First things first:
Where's Advanced Calling with VoLTE?
I need my mobile data while talking!
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That's on Verizon lol it is so irritating though. I'm trying to remain optimistic because I really like the phone. People keep bashing it comparing it to rooted phones that have been debloated, greenified and tweaked.

mattlach said:
Lollipop schmollipop...
First things first:
Where's Advanced Calling with VoLTE?
I need my mobile data while talking!
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Could not agree more
Actually, I wouldnt update to lollipop for a while anyhow in hopes of holding out for roooooot

How many phones have not been rooted? In my personal experience every phone I've ever owned has eventually gotten root.
G1 (HTC dream)
HTC mytouch slide
Thunderbolt
Galaxy s4
I know there's probably a bunch of phones that haven't been rooted but are there any phones with high demand for root that have not been rooted?
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OTA's are rolled out by carriers not OEM's so I take this news as a grain of salt. If it was a Verizon Rep then I would be souped.

Maybe going to Lollipop can help with root? http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-9-root-chainfire-564138/
I know it has different specs, but just maybe...

STEV307204 said:
OTA's are rolled out by carriers not OEM's so I take this news as a grain of salt. If it was a Verizon Rep then I would be souped.
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I feel the same way. Verizon is the ultimate decision maker which is why it makes sense that the Motorola rep said "waiting on Verizon to pick an advertisement" advertisements announce dates... So on so forth. Even if I have to wait it's okay because
I've got all. the. time. in. the. woorlddd. Don't you want some of ittt?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I1tEfPbC9c
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It would make sense for volte to be part of L. Why send two turbo otas when you can send one. But no one asks my opinion.

my2cents said:
Maybe going to Lollipop can help with root? http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-9-root-chainfire-564138/
I know it has different specs, but just maybe...
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Oh hey @my2cents…look at us both over here from the spyder threads haha.
From what I've heard, root will be nearly impossible without unlocked bootloader on lollipop. Sadly, I'm not getting my hopes up for Turbo root on 5.0 unless we get bootloaders unlocked...again, seems unlikely
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Just read this so maybe we won't get lollipop by dec 1.
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/11/android-lollipop-rollout-may-delayed-due-battery-bug.html

wadamean said:
Just read this so maybe we won't get lollipop by dec 1.
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/11/android-lollipop-rollout-may-delayed-due-battery-bug.html
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they fixed it already
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...ght-be-on-hold-because-of-a-serious-wifi-bug/

Restola said:
It would make sense for volte to be part of L. Why send two turbo otas when you can send one. But no one asks my opinion.
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That's what they're supposed to do.
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Oh hey @my2cents…look at us both over here from the spyder threads haha.
From what I've heard, root will be nearly impossible without unlocked bootloader on lollipop. Sadly, I'm not getting my hopes up for Turbo root on 5.0 unless we get bootloaders unlocked...again, seems unlikely
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Yeah, with JCase saying that Sunshine V3.0 can't support Motorola on 4.4.4, and the secure kernel crap that will block root on Lollipop, I think this phone will stay stock unless a Chinese middleman pops up again or something.

Guys just realize you can kiss any hope of an unlock and root exploit goodbye if you update. It's going to suck; either choose unlock or 5.0

I pretty much left root behind when I got the Turbo. Moved to the share plan so I don't need the hotspot hack. I used TiBu a lot moving from phone to phone and ROM to ROM but I really didn't have much data that I had to have. Mostly when I was listening to back catalogs of Podcasts I would want to restore the app I was using so it kept my place. Now I have moved on to something different. And I did lose some game data but it was stupid stuff like Temple Run and Monsters Ate My Condo, nothing like an RPG or something. And really thats what root did for me. I am ready for 5.0.
I also think that the 5.0 update will have VoLTE. Maybe they got Google to roll it into 5.0 so instead of hitting each device individually with a VoLTE update, if they get 5.0 they will also get VoLTE (and it brings the Nexus 6 on VoLTE faster as well).

123421342 said:
Guys just realize you can kiss any hope of an unlock and root exploit goodbye if you update. It's going to suck; either choose unlock or 5.0
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What are you basing this on?

rlb81 said:
What are you basing this on?
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Chainfires detailed post on how root will more than likely (read; definitely) going to need a custom kernel to work. Kernel flashes need an unlocked bootloader. 5.0 comes with even more selinux restrictions which make any kind of exploitation harder. All in all, 5.0 is way more locked down and harder to unlock. Simply getting a root exploit without unlock is not likely

Root (DROID)

Okay, so call me crazy/stupid but what is the easiest way to root my Moto Z Force Droid Edition?

ThisIsAGoodUsername said:
Okay, so call me crazy/stupid but what is the easiest way to root my Moto Z Force Droid Edition?
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Root is automatically activated when the phone has been in free fall for more than 10 seconds. Find a tall building and throw your phone off of it.
Seriously, have a look around before you post questions like this.
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ThisIsAGoodUsername said:
Okay, so call me crazy/stupid but what is the easiest way to root my Moto Z Force Droid Edition?
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Not at all at the moment.

PiousInquisitor said:
Root is automatically activated when the phone has been in free fall for more than 10 seconds. Find a tall building and throw your phone off of it.
Seriously, have a look around before you post questions like this.
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He was just asking a basic question. Did you really have to reply so meanly to him?

With it being a Verizon Droid brand, there's a good chance the answer is never. Probably not a lot of developers with the phone and Big Red is pretty serious about locking it down, hence the answers.

PiousInquisitor said:
Root is automatically activated when the phone has been in free fall for more than 10 seconds. Find a tall building and throw your phone off of it.
Seriously, have a look around before you post questions like this.
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Actually I have looked. I have seen several sources that claim rooting this latest VZW Droid phone is trivially easy. They even post instructions on how to do it.
Now, I wasn't at first going to believe those sources, because they have some odd errors, like 1/2 way thru their instructions they start to refer to the Mot Z Force Droid as being a Samsung phone.
However, based on your knowledgeable answer, I will take your vouching that these sources are being 100% reliable.

WaltA said:
However, based on your knowledgeable answer, I will take your vouching that these sources are being 100% reliable.
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Quite the opposite. If there isn't a root method on this forum, then there isn't one that works.
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WaltA said:
Actually I have looked. I have seen several sources that claim rooting this latest VZW Droid phone is trivially easy. They even post instructions on how to do it.
Now, I wasn't at first going to believe those sources, because they have some odd errors, like 1/2 way thru their instructions they start to refer to the Mot Z Force Droid as being a Samsung phone.
However, based on your knowledgeable answer, I will take your vouching that these sources are being 100% reliable.
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I've seen several sources claiming root for NON-VZW Moto Z phones (i.e.: Bootloader unlocked), I've seen none valid for VZW Droid (i.e.: Locked down like fort Knox)... Guess we have different search engines.
Wrote to Moto, no intention of unlocking it either. So unless someone finds an exploit/backdoor/Universal unlock key, you're SOL.

The current issue is that taking an update will destroy your chances of getting root. Take 0 updates until an exploit is found that will allow us root. Dirtycow/quadrooter are the only linux exploits that we might be able to get to work. Its just a matter of who. I know Jcase (https://twitter.com/jcase?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) has posted in a couple places about compiling dirtycow and even has an "Android Hacking" basics kinda PDF floating around. He has done a lot in the community (SunShine) he doesn't deserve the hate being thrown at him for not developing a root method for this one device.

daifunai said:
He was just asking a basic question. Did you really have to reply so meanly to him?
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It's the trend nowadays.
Instead of helping he posts what he did.
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Sirshark10 said:
Take 0 updates until an exploit is found that will allow us root.
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Oh. Well now I regret taking all those updates. I still doubt we'll get root on this device tho. I can only hope. It seems XDA forums has gone quiet and essentially given up on trying to root this phone, but I hope I'm wrong about that.

MOARStuff said:
Oh. Well now I regret taking all those updates. I still doubt we'll get root on this device tho. I can only hope. It seems XDA forums has gone quiet and essentially given up on trying to root this phone, but I hope I'm wrong about that.
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pretty much true

I wish that some developer would even try working on this. I myself have thought of many things and will probably create a separate post for root soon since I have a couple ideas which I feel MIGHT MAYBE work, but I need the XDA community to pitch in and help me think of a method. Like I said, I have a rough idea but it needs refining, which I can hopefully get from the community.

Moto z force jailbreak
So what you guys are saying it's inpossable to jail brake our phone? So I should just go out and get a new phone if I want to jail break it?

I was aware the when I bought my phone used that the Droid version probably wouldn't see root anytime soon but I bought it anyway because I did research online and felt the phone had good enough specs and the UI looked good and had cool features so I personally don't even need or miss having root on this phone. My reasons for rooting phones has ALWAYS been for performance tweaks with occasional UI adjustments.
My last phone was an Acend XT (H611) which before having the bootloader unlocked and flashing a debloated and tweaked stock rom it was an utter POS. I paid $50 for that Ascent XT and I liked it but performance and UI wise it doesn't even compare to the Moto Z Force. So I personally don't even miss having root.
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Alex222339 said:
So what you guys are saying it's inpossable to jail brake our phone? So I should just go out and get a new phone if I want to jail break it?
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Yeah need bootloader unlocked and Verizon won't let Lenovo Unlock our Droid version.
I am more concerned about when we will get another update for Oreo because it has problems sometimes.... I have to restart my phone once a week because the fingerprint scanner or chop for flashlight stop working or some other random bug pops up.

Damn Verizon, thets how they killed the turbo 2