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[Q] Sprint monitoring Hotspot?

Anyone know if Sprint is actively monitoring Hotspot usage on custom ROMs? I know they can, but never really worried about it since I only use it once every month or so for small amounts of data.
The other day I enabled it for a couple minutes just to test a tablet's wifi access out, and less than 5 minutes later, I got a message:
From 4483:
SprintFreeMsg: Turn your Evo 4G into a Wi-Fi router and connect up to 5 devices with Sprint Mobile Hotspot.
It could be a coincidence, but the timing is suspicious. Is there real concern about being charged/dropped? I've read some have been dropped for excessive forced roaming using custom ROMs, but didn't know if I should suspend use of limited Hotspot usage unless I pay the $30 monthly (which I'd never do for < 1 hour usage / month).

wvufan said:
Anyone know if Sprint is actively monitoring Hotspot usage on custom ROMs? I know they can, but never really worried about it since I only use it once every month or so for small amounts of data.
The other day I enabled it for a couple minutes just to test a tablet's wifi access out, and less than 5 minutes later, I got a message:
From 4483:
SprintFreeMsg: Turn your Evo 4G into a Wi-Fi router and connect up to 5 devices with Sprint Mobile Hotspot.
It could be a coincidence, but the timing is suspicious. Is there real concern about being charged/dropped? I've read some have been dropped for excessive forced roaming using custom ROMs, but didn't know if I should suspend use of limited Hotspot usage unless I pay the $30 monthly (which I'd never do for < 1 hour usage / month).
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ha, I jsut got the same one, and I never tether. Coincident

Anyone know if Sprint is actively monitoring Hotspot usage on custom ROMs? I know they can,
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no they cant.

wvufan said:
Anyone know if Sprint is actively monitoring Hotspot usage on custom ROMs? I know they can, but never really worried about it since I only use it once every month or so for small amounts of data.
The other day I enabled it for a couple minutes just to test a tablet's wifi access out, and less than 5 minutes later, I got a message:
From 4483:
SprintFreeMsg: Turn your Evo 4G into a Wi-Fi router and connect up to 5 devices with Sprint Mobile Hotspot.
It could be a coincidence, but the timing is suspicious. Is there real concern about being charged/dropped? I've read some have been dropped for excessive forced roaming using custom ROMs, but didn't know if I should suspend use of limited Hotspot usage unless I pay the $30 monthly (which I'd never do for < 1 hour usage / month).
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It's coincidence.
They can't tell if you're tethering from a custom rom.

This has been discussed by verizon customers for some time now. Carriers can monitor tethering, rooted or not. They can also block tethering apps in the market, which is what verizon and the others have done. Sprint doesnt block the apps in the market and could care less if your tethering without paying for it. If you pay the $10 a month for premium data you have unlimited data. They care less how you use it.

I was wondering the same thing since some ROMs come with Wireless Tether, which comes from the market, and the Sense ones come with Mobile Hot Spot. I remember reading that Mobile Hot Spot connects the the devices differently than the Wireless Tether and didn't know if Sprint was able to trace if you're using one or the other. Looks like they can't tell the difference between the two. And since you have unlimited data, they'll let you use as much data to tether as you want.

mikeyinid said:
Carriers can monitor tethering, rooted or not.
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What do you base this claim on?

mattykinsx said:
What do you base this claim on?
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My girlfriend has a Nexus S 4G(unrooted) and according to her she tethered for a day and the next was told to pay for it to continue to tether.

goodboynyc said:
My girlfriend has a Nexus S 4G(unrooted) and according to her she tethered for a day and the next was told to pay for it to continue to tether.
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I'm sure it has some sort of Sprint apps on it like SprintIQ/Sprint Zone or something that could potentially monitor that.
Especially if she used the tether function that is built in.
But if you use AOSP or some sort of ROM with the Sprint monitor apps removed it they can't monitor it.
There's no way for Sprint to know if I, with my Evo, tether with CM7

mattykinsx said:
What do you base this claim on?
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http://appadvice.com/appnn/2011/03/unauthorized-tethering-warnings-atts-bark-bigger-bite
Thats about att
http://stopthecap.com/2011/05/05/ve...start-cracking-down-on-tethering-freeloaders/
This is just in general.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news...own-on-wireless-tethering-app-for-android.ars
This talks about Sprint being the only carrier that doesnt block tethering apps in the market.
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If you think for a second they cant tell whos tethering, your wrong. I cant give you the science behind it, but carriers do know whos tethering. I think alot of it based on usage. If your tethering and playing COD, that would probably piss them off more than just checking emails, or browsing forums.

mattykinsx said:
I'm sure it has some sort of Sprint apps on it like SprintIQ/Sprint Zone or something that could potentially monitor that.
Especially if she used the tether function that is built in.
But if you use AOSP or some sort of ROM with the Sprint monitor apps removed it they can't monitor it.
There's no way for Sprint to know if I, with my Evo, tether with CM7
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since the nexus s has 0 sprint apps on it, that is not the case.

mikeyinid said:
http://appadvice.com/appnn/2011/03/unauthorized-tethering-warnings-atts-bark-bigger-bite
Thats about att
http://stopthecap.com/2011/05/05/ve...start-cracking-down-on-tethering-freeloaders/
This is just in general.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news...own-on-wireless-tethering-app-for-android.ars
This talks about Sprint being the only carrier that doesnt block tethering apps in the market.
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If you think for a second they cant tell whos tethering, your wrong. I cant give you the science behind it, but carriers do know whos tethering. I think alot of it based on usage. If your tethering and playing COD, that would probably piss them off more than just checking emails, or browsing forums.
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I'm sure it is based on usage but that's no proof that they know you're tethering.
A reasonable person could use 5 GB a month tethering and I see no way and no proof that they would have any idea, unless they could see that you have downloaded a tether app from the market.
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since the nexus s has 0 sprint apps on it, that is not the case.
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You're misunderstanding.
Just because it doesn't have Sprint TV on it doesn't mean it doesn't have Sprint Framework.
Obviously you can activate and update your PRL/Profile with the Nexus S 4g so there is obviously some sort of Sprint framework and it's conceivable, that if they can tell you're tethering and it's not based on usage, (and there's been no evidence to prove they can presented here yet) that would be how.

So you think att or verizon will just send someone a letter or text saying "we know your tethering, knock it off" without REALLY knowing? Sounds like bad business to me.

mattykinsx said:
What do you base this claim on?
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There are a variety of ways they *could* track it if they wanted to. Whether or not they do is a different question, but they easily could. For example. think about some of what your computer tends to do in the background. If you're running Windows, it pings windowsupdate now and then, checks for antivirus updates from a Norton/McAfee/Kaspersky/whatever server, and even pings time.windows.com every now and then to sync your clock. All tell-tale signs you're using data on a Windows machine. I'm sure that similar clues can be identified for Mac and Linux, and that's just one way to go about it. Then it's just a question of matching up the phone's IP address at the time to an account, which I expect they track already.
Bottom line is that if someone gave me a directive and a budget to create a system to identify people who are tethering, I could come up with something that would probably be at least 90% effective, without any regard to what's on your phone.

bkrodgers is right. I don't know if Sprint does monitor, hence my question, but there are ways to look at the packets being sent to identify the source with reasonable accuracy. In addition to things like the user agent on browsers, which can be overridden but will give you away most of the time, there are other ways. There are well known network analysis tools that can look at the way low-level network negotiations work and accurately identify the specific version and operating system of a computer, and that's not even necessary because of the user agent and update signatures associated with various operating systems.
Because my tethering/hotspot usage is low compared to my normal usage (multiple gigabytes per month of podcasts and streaming audio usage), I don't think Sprint will care nearly so much about a few megs of tethering usage, but I also don't want to lose the good deal I have on my Sprint account. Thanks all for the feedback. I really wish I had some insight from a Sprint insider.

mikeyinid said:
So you think att or verizon will just send someone a letter or text saying "we know your tethering, knock it off" without REALLY knowing? Sounds like bad business to me.
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Do you really want me to answer that question? lol
wvufan said:
bkrodgers is right. I don't know if Sprint does monitor, hence my question, but there are ways to look at the packets being sent to identify the source with reasonable accuracy. In addition to things like the user agent on browsers, which can be overridden but will give you away most of the time, there are other ways. There are well known network analysis tools that can look at the way low-level network negotiations work and accurately identify the specific version and operating system of a computer, and that's not even necessary because of the user agent and update signatures associated with various operating systems.
Because my tethering/hotspot usage is low compared to my normal usage (multiple gigabytes per month of podcasts and streaming audio usage), I don't think Sprint will care nearly so much about a few megs of tethering usage, but I also don't want to lose the good deal I have on my Sprint account. Thanks all for the feedback. I really wish I had some insight from a Sprint insider.
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I really don't know if they can tell or not but I haven't really seen evidence that they actually can besides knowing the market apps you get or ridiculous usage.
When you tether via Android it's the same kinda concept as having a wireless router. [no, it is not the same exact thing]
Can your ISP tell you have a router?
Because routers have a firewall built-in, usually.
But that's not applicable to tether apps.
Furthermore, even I have received the Sprint text message about the tether charge and I have never tethered.
I'm *not* saying is or isn't capable of telling if you're tethering, I just want some proof.
Edit: I just thought of a *possible way* they could tell.
MAC Addresses.
If there are multiple MAC addresses that are using your connection that would give it away right there.
Is that what's going on? No proof.

I should clarify that I'm not saying I believe Sprint is actually using anything like what I described. Though I wouldn't rule out Verizon and AT&T...they seem to know. For some reason I think Sprint's less evil, which might be naive. But they also seem to be less concerned about how much data people are using.
I don't think it's true that Sprint doesn't care if you tether though. If they didn't, they wouldn't be having manufacturers strip it out of their ROMs, and they wouldn't be selling a $30/month add-on. But that doesn't mean they care enough to go to the trouble I describe. At least not at this point.
I think they may have used data usage as an indicator in the past, but with streaming HD videos, music, and all sorts of other data heavy apps, it's easily possible to go past a couple GB with legit phone-only usage. At this point they'd need to go to something more sophisticated, and I don't think Sprint's concerned at that level.

mattykinsx said:
Edit: I just thought of a *possible way* they could tell.
MAC Addresses.
If there are multiple MAC addresses that are using your connection that would give it away right there.
Is that what's going on? No proof.
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Actually, I think they can only see the MAC address of the device directly connected to their network. Your ISP just sees your router's MAC address (though most routers have the ability to spoof the MAC address of the machine you were originally setup on, if your cable company requires that). Since your phone is basically the router, they'd just see the phone's MAC address.
But regardless, it still just comes down to whether they care enough to invest in a system to detect that. One way or the other, it can be done with pretty good accuracy if they really wanted to.

hhmmm, no comment

[Q] 3G connectivity

Hello
Is it possible to connect usb 3G modem and make it work ??

I was picturing a bluetooth or wifi tethering of a mobile with a data connection to the nexus 7 as a possibility. Still not sure if i'm even getting one though.

People need to stop complaining about no 3g connectivity on devices the size of a tablet. Really? When are you going to sit down and use your tablet to browse the web in a public space that does not offer wifi? Nowadays we all have smartphones in case we need to quickly check an email, etc. The only time I would like to really have internet access would be if I go camping or go to a remote place. Lets be honest, how many times do you go camping a year? I know there are people who earn their living on the go and cannot perform without access to the web. The rest of us do not need this feature unless you are really addicted to the internet. Thanks for letting me share my opinion.
MB860, CM7.2.0, Faux 026b1 1Ghz

Soldier-2Point0 said:
People need to stop complaining about no 3g connectivity on devices the size of a tablet. Really? When are you going to sit down and use your tablet to browse the web in a public space that does not offer wifi? Nowadays we all have smartphones in case we need to quickly check an email, etc. The only time I would like to really have internet access would be if I go camping or go to a remote place. Lets be honest, how many times do you go camping a year? I know there are people who earn their living on the go and cannot perform without access to the web. The rest of us do not need this feature unless you are really addicted to the internet. Thanks for letting me share my opinion.
MB860, CM7.2.0, Faux 026b1 1Ghz
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I'm not complaining. I like the Nexus 7 a lot and for sure i will buy one when it is available at amazon or any other store that ship internationally. For me i use the 3G a lot and wifi is not available in the places i spent most of the time in. I was asking if it possible to connect a 3g usb modem like the asus transformer

M.Noury said:
I'm not complaining. I like the Nexus 7 a lot and for sure i will buy one when it is available at amazon or any other store that ship internationally. For me i use the 3G a lot and wifi is not available in the places i spent most of the time in. I was asking if it possible to connect a 3g usb modem like the asus transformer
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It was a general statement, do not take it personal. A lot of people are criticizing google for not including 3g connectivity.
You're better off tethering from your smartphone.
MB860, CM7.2.0, Faux 026b1 1Ghz

Soldier-2Point0 said:
People need to stop complaining about no 3g connectivity on devices the size of a tablet. Really? When are you going to sit down and use your tablet to browse the web in a public space that does not offer wifi? Nowadays we all have smartphones in case we need to quickly check an email, etc. The only time I would like to really have internet access would be if I go camping or go to a remote place. Lets be honest, how many times do you go camping a year? I know there are people who earn their living on the go and cannot perform without access to the web. The rest of us do not need this feature unless you are really addicted to the internet. Thanks for letting me share my opinion.
MB860, CM7.2.0, Faux 026b1 1Ghz
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not everyone lives in a developed country like you. some of us live outside of the US if you don't already know that. in some countries wifi is not as ubiquitous as in the US. i for one spend a lot of time travelling on a car where i am not the one driving. i love to browse the web using my smartphone on a trip. i'd love to do the same thing with tablet (nexus 7) without having to tether from my smartphone and drain the phone's battery. but that's just my opinion and thanks for letting me share it.

I've been searching for a way to have a 3g connectivity as well and until now I've found 3 solutions:
1- Tether internet from your phone
2- buy one Huawei E5830
3- buy a 3g dongle, an usb to micro usb adapter and compile the drivers for android (I've no clue how to do it or if it's even possible on the nexus 7)
Regards

neric91 said:
I've been searching for a way to have a 3g connectivity as well and until now I've found 3 solutions:
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Can you share the solutions with us
I already pre-ordered one
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M.Noury said:
Can you share the solutions with us
I already pre-ordered one
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Allready edited my post ^^ sorry for that.

M.Noury said:
Hello
Is it possible to connect usb 3G modem and make it work ??
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I was also wondering about this so I emailed google, here is their reply:
"Thanks for contacting Google with your question.
Unfortunately I can't confirm that your OTG cable will work with your device, however I would definitely suggest that if you have one to give it a try."
Er thanks google!

neric91 said:
I've been searching for a way to have a 3g connectivity as well and until now I've found 3 solutions:
1- Tether internet from your phone
2- buy one Huawei E5830
3- buy a 3g dongle, an usb to micro usb adapter and compile the drivers for android (I've no clue how to do it or if it's even possible on the nexus 7)
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Option 3 should instead be a mifi device so no need for extra expense of a cable
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animatechnica said:
Option 3 should instead be a mifi device so no need for extra expense of a cable
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That's what his option 2 is.

username24 said:
I was also wondering about this so I emailed google, here is their reply:
"Thanks for contacting Google with your question.
Unfortunately I can't confirm that your OTG cable will work with your device, however I would definitely suggest that if you have one to give it a try."
Er thanks google!
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So, would this be the same question as asking "given that my phone and data plan allow tethering, can I tether my phone to this tablet and use the data connection to browse on my tablet?"
I plan to use this tablet while i'm at work for reading while i'm on my lunch break. I already do this on my phone (use Pulse to catch up on all the science and tech news) but would really like to be able to just tether my phone to the tablet and use the tablet for easier reading (and no, I don't have wifi connection at work, and I eat my lunch in the break room...no use wasting gas going down the street to McDonalds which also eats up my lunch time. I cherish every precious second lol).
EDIT: Can't believe I forgot this. I always give out detailed info, lol. Anyway, my current phone is the T-Mobile G2x running Android 2.3.4. Not sure if that would make any difference, but I prefer to give out too much info than not enough

I suggest you check out Foxfi in the Google play store. Its a free workaround to turn your Android device into a WiFi hotspot. The app is free, and you don't have to pay your provider for a hotspot plan. It will just be using the phone data you're already paying for. You also don't have to be rooted. When you have Foxfi activated, you can connect anything that can run off a wireless connection to it like your laptop and most likely the Nexus 7. I don't have a Nexus 7 yet so I can't confirm this completely, but I'm able to get Foxfi to work for other Android tablets. If you're on Sprint, sprint has blocked Foxfi from the play store, so just Google Foxfi and download from their website. Also, Foxfi doesn't play completely nice with all devices, so you may need to use it with bluetooth tethering with specific phones. All the instructions and disclamers are in the app description. Definitely check it out though. My wife and I love it...

why stop complaining
Soldier-2Point0 said:
People need to stop complaining about no 3g connectivity on devices the size of a tablet. Really? When are you going to sit down and use your tablet to browse the web in a public space that does not offer wifi? Nowadays we all have smartphones in case we need to quickly check an email, etc. The only time I would like to really have internet access would be if I go camping or go to a remote place. Lets be honest, how many times do you go camping a year? I know there are people who earn their living on the go and cannot perform without access to the web. The rest of us do not need this feature unless you are really addicted to the internet. Thanks for letting me share my opinion.
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well, I think that ppl should continue complaining about missing 3G connectivity. 3G/4G connectivity should be state of the art as it has been in the past two years since the 7" Galaxy Tab was introduced. 7" is the best compromise in mobility and comfortable display size as well as a compromise regarding communication capabilities and tablet (life)style. I personally use an original 7" Galaxy Tab, privately and for business, and I love(!) being able to use it as a phone (w/ BT haedset) and device for internet access whenever and wherever I might be (even when camping, in the subway on a bus or in the mountains). There's no full WiFi coverage here in Austria and, honestly, I don't hink it's anywhere else. It's just such an advantage NOT to need a second (or third device e.g. TomTom or Garmin) device for connectivity, navigation or communication that I don't wanna miss it. Due to that it also bothers me (OT, as this is discussed in another thread) not to have a camera. As I've got only one device (and am very happy with that "configuration") I often use the camera for taking snapshots and sharing them online (after editing on the tablet) or deciphering QR codes etc.
In the beginning I was thrilled by the announcement of the Nexus 7 and it's incredible specs but honestly, I think there are too many no-go's for a 2012 7"-tab and I'll most probably choose Huawei's MediaPad as "legitimate successor" for my GT. it might be slower and more outdated but in my point of view way more "sophisticated".
thanks for letting me share my opinion..
now back to M.Noury's question. as it's possible to use 3G dongles with almost every "cheap" tablet that's e.g. offered on CECT-shop I'd definitely give it a try.
cheers
Tom

Anyone tried any 3g dongles?

tried with a zte MF112 and a huawei E535. Stick mount sees the card reader portions of the sticks and the status lighs start to flash but thats about it, not found any way of making use of them

[Q] Which router?

okay I know it is not a proper thread xD had no choice...help pls
Hi guys, I have an ISP service of 4mbps, and that gives me about 250kBps i believe, which is pretty fast for my country, ok, its not fast but its okay.
I bought a crappy Belkin wireless N router and it was ok, gave me about 180kBps on download.
But it broke down...
So now im offering 100 bucks for a good router.. was going for a good ASUS ac router but N is cheaper, so I was not sure if I should buy such good router with ISP bottlenecking the router speeds..
What do you think folks!?
I need one with good range also!
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fenchai said:
okay I know it is not a proper thread xD had no choice...help pls
Hi guys, I have an ISP service of 4mbps, and that gives me about 250kBps i believe, which is pretty fast for my country, ok, its not fast but its okay.
I bought a crappy Belkin wireless N router and it was ok, gave me about 180kBps on download.
But it broke down...
So now im offering 100 bucks for a good router.. was going for a good ASUS ac router but N is cheaper, so I was not sure if I should buy such good router with ISP bottlenecking the router speeds..
What do you think folks!?
I need one with good range also!
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I prefer Linksys and DD-WRT or. tomato firmware.

vaitapu said:
I prefer Linksys and DD-WRT or. tomato firmware.
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Ok, I think you didnt get my question.
I was daying, im going to buy an ASUS RT-N66U router. but my ISP service is 4mbps, So i dont know if this is an overkill router for my current speed...
But I also wanted a long range router, but i think this one is a bit overkill dont you think?
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fenchai said:
Ok, I think you didnt get my question.
I was daying, im going to buy an ASUS RT-N66U router. but my ISP service is 4mbps, So i dont know if this is an overkill router for my current speed...
But I also wanted a long range router, but i think this one is a bit overkill dont you think?
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the N66u is a GREAT router. But that is way to much for your needs. a simple $19 TP-Link would fit the bill for you. even an old relible WRT54G would as well for that internet speed.
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hyelton said:
the N66u is a GREAT router. But that is way to much for your needs. a simple $19 TP-Link would fit the bill for you. even an old relible WRT54G would as well for that internet speed.
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damn, I just wasted 100 bucks, But I also wanted long range because i have lot of walls in the house.
I also wanted to try new routers.
I know it is overkill xD But I think the range should be better.
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fenchai said:
damn, I just wasted 100 bucks, But I also wanted long range because i have lot of walls in the house.
I also wanted to try new routers.
I know it is overkill xD But I think the range should be better.
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range can Also depend on your wireless clients as well
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Although I think you already ordered the router, I'm reassuring your choice: a good, fast router helps for local traffic too. It's a huge difference from G/100Mbps to N/1Gbps when it comes to wireless/wired transfers between your local devices, be them computers, laptops, phones, TVs or whatever else.
PS: You should emigrate to Romania where your usual download speed would be around 4-5MB/s for as low as 8-10$ a month!

daniel_loft said:
Although I think you already ordered the router, I'm reassuring your choice: a good, fast router helps for local traffic too. It's a huge difference from G/100Mbps to N/1Gbps when it comes to wireless/wired transfers between your local devices, be them computers, laptops, phones, TVs or whatever else.
PS: You should emigrate to Romania where your usual download speed would be around 4-5MB/s for as low as 8-10$ a month!
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omg, im paying for $15, IS of 4mbp...this is not good. But yeah, I believe network transfer and range should compensate for my inversion. Also I wanted to pay and learn/try something for experience because I use it on my everyday life, just like an smartphone.
Thanks for answering hav a great day
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Oh... and don't forget to put dd-wrt on it!

daniel_loft said:
Oh... and don't forget to put dd-wrt on it!
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Yeap, I will. Welp, My friend told me that He havent ordered it yet xD. I have a second chance..
Which router do you recommend me, friend.
Needs to have long range
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I personally use a Linksys EA2700 which was around 100$ here in Romania.
I don't fully recommend it as I sent back two crashing units (original software). The third one seems to be ok, but it runs dd-wrt (only when I go to the third router was dd-wrt stable for this model).
For more recommendations I'd go to smallnetbuilder.com and dd-wrt.com.
Good luck!

daniel_loft said:
I personally use a Linksys EA2700 which was around 100$ here in Romania.
I don't fully recommend it as I sent back two crashing units (original software). The third one seems to be ok, but it runs dd-wrt (only when I go to the third router was dd-wrt stable for this model).
For more recommendations I'd go to smallnetbuilder.com and dd-wrt.com.
Good luck!
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Thanks, I just made up my mind, I will go for the ASUS RT-N66U.
Dont know why you all prefer DD-WRT FW xD. Whats your fav feature in that firmware?
I think I will play with it a few weeks then, go for dd-wrt to try.
Thanks
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Well... at least with my EA2700 I had three major reasons to switch to dd-wrt:
1. The original has at least one security flaw that nobody seems to patch it.
2. I really got used to local DNS (been using it for years with my previous router - WRT54GL)
3. I prefer running dynamic DNS on the router and dd-wrt has support for no-ip.
Good luck!
PS: 4. The interface is better than the original.

daniel_loft said:
Well... at least with my EA2700 I had three major reasons to switch to dd-wrt:
1. The original has at least one security flaw that nobody seems to patch it.
2. I really got used to local DNS (been using it for years with my previous router - WRT54GL)
3. I prefer running dynamic DNS on the router and dd-wrt has support for no-ip.
Good luck!
PS: 4. The interface is better than the original.
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wow, thats great, I will give it a try, thanks!
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i think TP-Link would fit the bill for you

I agree, TL-WR1043ND is highly regarded. Just be sure that it is the second version, which is blue, like on the site.
Good luck!

daniel_loft said:
I agree, TL-WR1043ND is highly regarded. Just be sure that it is the second version, which is blue, like on the site.
Good luck!
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Hi Thanks for your recommendations, I mostly want is great range, seen the antenas, Looks promising. I will check. Thanks guys.
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i think TP-Link would fit the bill for you
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O.k. I'm sorry guys but you are connecting your phone to a wifi router? And what is that doing exactly? Thanks
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execuse me, whats the benefit of using dd-wrt than original firmware? is that making the internet connection more stable?

Let me remind you why I picked dd-wrt over the original EA2700 firmware:
1. The original has at least one security flaw that nobody seems to patch it.
2. I really got used to local DNS (been using it for years with my previous router - WRT54GL)
3. I prefer running dynamic DNS on the router and dd-wrt has support for no-ip.
4. The interface is better than the original.

Damn the internet speed on this phone is crazy!!!!

Man I have never had home internet speeds like this before!!! Post your internet speed for your Note 4!!! This phone has lots of potential!!!

Here is one.

Let me guess, speed tanked after rooting?

Chicago ill

jamice4u said:
Man I have never had home internet speeds like this before!!! Post your internet speed for your Note 4!!! This phone has lots of potential!!!
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Wow...that's pretty decent.

I got this speed in Millbrae, CA too bad I live in Hayward, CA.

But the Wi-Fi sucks. I have a 150/150 connection and can't get 20 down, upload is between 60-80.

currentuserjade said:
Let me guess, speed tanked after rooting?
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You just speculating wildly, or have some evidence of this for the N4?
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But the Wi-Fi sucks. I have a 150/150 connection and can't get 20 down, upload is between 60-80.
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Wifi seems good to me. no problems connecting via 802.11ac @ 866 Mbps.
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Speculating wildly, thus the question mark. I can confirm wifi is awesome, btw.
Router:
ASUS RT-AC68U
Firmware 376.47 Merlin

jkwjkw said:
You just speculating wildly, or have some evidence of this for the N4?
Wifi seems good to me. no problems connecting via 802.11ac @ 866 Mbps.
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Now, only if the rest of us could get Google Fiber. The reason for my question, is that many things can be done after rooting, and one of those things may have caused it to tank. Freezing apps, deleting files, changing permissions, you know, the usual stuff you can do after rooting. It was asked poorly, but that's what was meant. :cyclops:

currentuserjade said:
Now, only if the rest of us could get Google Fiber. The reason for my question, is that many things can be done after rooting, and one of those things may have caused it to tank. Freezing apps, deleting files, changing permissions, you know, the usual stuff you can do after rooting. It was asked poorly, but that's what was meant. :cyclops:
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Ah ok, thanks for the clarification. You had me worried for a second. I had rooted my damn phone before I even checked the internet speed with spark.
Everybody deserves Google Fiber. it's ridiculous. A year from now I'll probably have a petabyte of storage space at home because of all the crap I download.

Yea... my speeds at work and home are terrible..... Brockton, MA
First one is LTE at work and other 2 are 3G at my house. Soo sad
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I tested before and after. The WiFi sucks on both N and AC.

My phone was rooted and I used my phone to tether to my laptop to take the speed test.

Lol.. Lucky you two, I'm pulling 10mb max, sometimes 0.1~0.5. Come on, this is Los Angeles, where's our rollout ?

I am sure this could and should be better, but still acceptable
Tried another test from home and got even better results
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/1017457145

Wow that is fast. At my home my internet speed improve for 3 to 5 MBS to 10 to 15 MBS.

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But the Wi-Fi sucks. I have a 150/150 connection and can't get 20 down, upload is between 60-80.
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Wifi works great on this phone. It's your router.

I love that you assume it's my router. WiFi on my other devices is phenomenal and my router is an ASUS RT‑AC68U. It's not my router or any settings, it's the phone. I'm planning on taking my Note back to stock to have a fresh start and seeing if anything changes.

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I love that you assume it's my router. WiFi on my other devices is phenomenal and my router is an ASUS RT‑AC68U. It's not my router or any settings, it's the phone. I'm planning on taking my Note back to stock to have a fresh start and seeing if anything changes.
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Try to change your router channel. I have the ac66u and it maxes out my connection of 60/60 anywhere in my house.

Tmobile Nexus 6 News..

So it looks as wifi calling should go out to tmobiles nexus 6 by the end of the first quarter.. and volte for the nexus 6 and tmobile is nearly done with testing http://www.tmonews.com/2015/02/wi-fi-calling-coming-to-nexus-6-by-the-end-of-q1/

It's great news for those who do use it. Personally I don't so yeah... I got one of those routers from T-Mo that is supposed to be used for Wi-Fi calling and have never used it for that. Otherwise it was a free $150-$200 router that works awesome!

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So it looks as wifi calling should go out to tmobiles nexus 6 by the end of the first quarter.. and volte for the nexus 6 and tmobile is nearly done with testing http://www.tmonews.com/2015/02/wi-fi-calling-coming-to-nexus-6-by-the-end-of-q1/
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Awesome I've been wondering when it will be enable. Looking forward to both VoLTE and Wifi-Calling!!!

Any ideas how it will work? Will it be an app compatible with any custom rom or will it be something rom builders will need to go integrate?

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Any ideas how it will work? Will it be an app compatible with any custom rom or will it be something rom builders will need to go integrate?
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i have nooooo idea..

I am going to guess application like google hangouts dialer.

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It's great news for those who do use it. Personally I don't so yeah... I got one of those routers from T-Mo that is supposed to be used for Wi-Fi calling and have never used it for that. Otherwise it was a free $150-$200 router that works awesome!
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Same here.... Amazing router

Gorjira said:
It's great news for those who do use it. Personally I don't so yeah... I got one of those routers from T-Mo that is supposed to be used for Wi-Fi calling and have never used it for that. Otherwise it was a free $150-$200 router that works awesome!
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Same here.... Amazing router
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But you have to return the router after you terminate services or they will bill you for 100 dollars.
Something to keep in mind, and it will still be 100 dollars a year from now. Or two. Or three.. in three the router is definitely going to be less than 100 dollars market value.

It's still a free 5ghz AC router...I think I can remember to return a router

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It's still a free 5ghz AC router...I think I can remember to return a router
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I agree and I have had tmo for almost 7 years I think I might be around for a while

punisherb273 said:
It's still a free 5ghz AC router...I think I can remember to return a router
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Its a POS that won't run openwrt.

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Its a POS that won't run openwrt.
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I had a dual band router with openwrt, and when the 2.4GHz hardware died (which happened far earlier than it should have, probably due to WRT overdriving the radio), and replaced it with a Netgear N900, expecting to get a wired router with WRT and run it as a WAP. Turns out there was not a single feature I used in WRT that was missing in the stock firmware, and the thing was rock solid as far as stability goes. I replaced the Netgear with the ASUS one from T-Mo (actually turned it into a WAP for better basement coverage) and it has even MORE features out of the box, like more powerful QOS support. Openwrt/DD-WRT/Tomato are nice, but they are far more than the vast majority of people need - even power users like me. I'm not using my CCNA skills to do stuff like routing multiple subnets here at home, and if I did, I would grab a used Cisco 861 and run the ASUS as a WAP behind it rather than messing with WRT.

Need that volte, hate dropping down to 3g when making voice calls then waiting for lte to kick in.

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I had a dual band router with openwrt, and when the 2.4GHz hardware died (which happened far earlier than it should have, probably due to WRT overdriving the radio), and replaced it with a Netgear N900, expecting to get a wired router with WRT and run it as a WAP. Turns out there was not a single feature I used in WRT that was missing in the stock firmware, and the thing was rock solid as far as stability goes. I replaced the Netgear with the ASUS one from T-Mo (actually turned it into a WAP for better basement coverage) and it has even MORE features out of the box, like more powerful QOS support. Openwrt/DD-WRT/Tomato are nice, but they are far more than the vast majority of people need - even power users like me. I'm not using my CCNA skills to do stuff like routing multiple subnets here at home, and if I did, I would grab a used Cisco 861 and run the ASUS as a WAP behind it rather than messing with WRT.
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Because obviously every hack on the internet is CCNA.
Right kid.
You obviously wrote this all up to try to defend yourself, but not working.
Instead, you have a spyware infested piece of unstable junk.
Have fun with it.

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Because obviously every hack on the internet is CCNA.
Right kid.
You obviously wrote this all up to try to defend yourself, but not working.
Instead, you have a spyware infested piece of unstable junk.
Have fun with it.
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Dude, why so hostile? Did tmo and/or asus personally offend you at some point in your life?
I've been using the tmo/asus router for a month now and it works great. Not everybody needs high level, supertech setups. Some people just want a wifi signal that works well...

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Well for the rest of us that have a life beyond hacking a router, for no reason, it works just fine. Plug it in and connect. Its free 5 gigggaahertz

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Well for the rest of us that have a life beyond hacking a router, for no reason, it works just fine. Plug it in and connect. Its free 5 gigggaahertz
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Plug it in and they get to snoop on all your communications.
Also, its quite clear that your opinion of openwrt has been severely tainted by... probably a complete moron. Plug it in, and it works better than fine.

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Because obviously every hack on the internet is CCNA.
Right kid.
You obviously wrote this all up to try to defend yourself, but not working.
Instead, you have a spyware infested piece of unstable junk.
Have fun with it.
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I have been an enterprise SysAdmin for 15 years. I have been working with network equipment (the enterprise Cisco stuff, not your wannabe WRT crap) for over 10. I am neither a kid, nor a hack, thanks.
What's your network background that gives your opinion on WRT so valid, and what features make it so special? Because like I said, I have used it and there was nothing in it that made me miss it when I stopped.

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I have been an enterprise SysAdmin for 15 years. I have been working with network equipment (the enterprise Cisco stuff, not your wannabe WRT crap) for over 10. I am neither a kid, nor a hack, thanks.
What's your network background that gives your opinion on WRT so valid, and what features make it so special? Because like I said, I have used it and there was nothing in it that made me miss it when I stopped.
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I second you on the wrt stuff. Yes while it is nice it is not necessary for home use at all. Especially since the Asus-68u / TMO-1900 AC (same router/WAP etc.) has it built in for the most part and actually works better than WRT crap-ware as I determine it. I to would get a used Cisco or aerohive or enterprise level hardware over any home-based consumer router for security and other things that just are not available. But that is not this subject I have the TMO-1900AC and Asus-68u at home I use the TMO as WAP and Asus as primary this works very well for wifi calling etc. I believe wifi calling will be built in to the phone on update not a wannabe app like sprint.

T-Mobile is reporting that WiFi calling won't be in the 5.1 update... This is getting old.