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[Q] How to use Epic as mobile hotspot

Ok one of the reasons I mainly got this phone was the mobile hotspot feature because the internet at my college blows and it would be nice for everyone to be able to browse the internet in a single dorm and not just 2 people. Unfortunately Sprint has made it so this feature costs an addition 25 with your bill. I don't pay the bill so this isn't an option for me. I heard that if you root the epic, you can use the mobile hotpot feature for free. I haven't rooted it yet but I have the z4 root application on my phone. So how can I go about doing this?

Run z4root and then download and run wireless tether. Its not on the market so google it and you will find the latest version. I don't recall whether it will run on a stock kernel; if not you'll want to install a custom rom.
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It is usually usable only on the Eclair build when rooted. Sometimes not ;-)
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Ok I found a hit on google for wireless tether on google code. The only samsung glaxy device I saw said it ran on 1.5 but I'm on 2.1 so it should work right. I'm not sure if the device listed works with epic but it said galaxy device. Also will sprint notice the increase of data usage and charge me more?

Nope, unless you start dl movies.
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So standard internet browsing should be fine then?

Your expectations are unrealistic and this is a really easy subject to search for.

I don't unerstand how my expectations are unrealistic but thanks for the responses anyways.
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Here you. Root and wifi tether and other stuff all in one. Easy menu.
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/epi...ecovery-2-04-for-windows-intel-mac-and-linux/

If you are on 2.1 the best way is to get clockwork (use the one click root) then find mobile ap in the dev section and apply the zip. Way more stable than wireless tether in my experience.
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Jayavarman said:
Here you. Root and wifi tether and other stuff all in one. Easy menu.
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/epi...ecovery-2-04-for-windows-intel-mac-and-linux/
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Thanks much Jay. Gonna give that link the once over before I mess with the phone itself. Thanks ipaq as well. I'll check that out if I find any problems with the one in Jay's link.

Definitly if you are staying on stock rom, use mobile ap, it is soooooooooo much better then wireless tether, and if you follow my tutorial after rooting and getting clockwork first you can have themes with it too.

I think what he's trying to say about your expectations is you think you can do this and give everyone internet on your dorm. Do you know how slow that will run? Also you can only connect so many devices at one time. I don't know how many for wireless tether but mobile AP is 5. Yes wireless tether is a great feature its just not going to meet your expectations for helping a while dorm out.
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What college do you attend?

Am I missing the OP's question that Sprint called this device a mobile hotspot?? Is Sprint lying?

If you don't pay the $30 a month charge for hotspotting, will Sprint find out and charge you any extra if you tether your phone after rooting it?

DangerZone1223 said:
If you don't pay the $30 a month charge for hotspotting, will Sprint find out and charge you any extra if you tether your phone after rooting it?
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Ive been tethering since i had windows mobile, and ive never been in trouble, just dont download movies or any other big files. I mean its not even worth it to download movies takes too long anyhow. Just dont take your phone in rooted with that app on it or then u might get into some trouble.

If you have an epic 4g you have unlimited (truely unlimited) data...they are not going to say anything regardless of how much data you use. That being said spint will not Check the status of your phone (root or un rooted). You are go to go on tethering

davidrules7778 said:
Ive been tethering since i had windows mobile, and ive never been in trouble, just dont download movies or any other big files. I mean its not even worth it to download movies takes too long anyhow. Just dont take your phone in rooted with that app on it or then u might get into some trouble.
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Yeah, I don't plan on doing anything crazy like torrenting. I'd use this to tether my iPad if I'm in an airport or on a long trip, or maybe if I'm on vacation and don't wanna pay $10-30 for the hotel's wifi. That's all. Nothing mundo crazy where I'm using gigs of transfers.
Thanks for letting me know!

I have a question that I hope someone here can answer.
I've toyed with the idea of installing one of the hotspot programs. But, I'm very wary of surfing the Net without a NAT/firewall between my Windows box and the Net. Do these programs provide firewall-type protection to the machines that are surfing through them?
Drake

[Q] Sprint monitoring Hotspot?

Anyone know if Sprint is actively monitoring Hotspot usage on custom ROMs? I know they can, but never really worried about it since I only use it once every month or so for small amounts of data.
The other day I enabled it for a couple minutes just to test a tablet's wifi access out, and less than 5 minutes later, I got a message:
From 4483:
SprintFreeMsg: Turn your Evo 4G into a Wi-Fi router and connect up to 5 devices with Sprint Mobile Hotspot.
It could be a coincidence, but the timing is suspicious. Is there real concern about being charged/dropped? I've read some have been dropped for excessive forced roaming using custom ROMs, but didn't know if I should suspend use of limited Hotspot usage unless I pay the $30 monthly (which I'd never do for < 1 hour usage / month).

wvufan said:
Anyone know if Sprint is actively monitoring Hotspot usage on custom ROMs? I know they can, but never really worried about it since I only use it once every month or so for small amounts of data.
The other day I enabled it for a couple minutes just to test a tablet's wifi access out, and less than 5 minutes later, I got a message:
From 4483:
SprintFreeMsg: Turn your Evo 4G into a Wi-Fi router and connect up to 5 devices with Sprint Mobile Hotspot.
It could be a coincidence, but the timing is suspicious. Is there real concern about being charged/dropped? I've read some have been dropped for excessive forced roaming using custom ROMs, but didn't know if I should suspend use of limited Hotspot usage unless I pay the $30 monthly (which I'd never do for < 1 hour usage / month).
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ha, I jsut got the same one, and I never tether. Coincident

Anyone know if Sprint is actively monitoring Hotspot usage on custom ROMs? I know they can,
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no they cant.

wvufan said:
Anyone know if Sprint is actively monitoring Hotspot usage on custom ROMs? I know they can, but never really worried about it since I only use it once every month or so for small amounts of data.
The other day I enabled it for a couple minutes just to test a tablet's wifi access out, and less than 5 minutes later, I got a message:
From 4483:
SprintFreeMsg: Turn your Evo 4G into a Wi-Fi router and connect up to 5 devices with Sprint Mobile Hotspot.
It could be a coincidence, but the timing is suspicious. Is there real concern about being charged/dropped? I've read some have been dropped for excessive forced roaming using custom ROMs, but didn't know if I should suspend use of limited Hotspot usage unless I pay the $30 monthly (which I'd never do for < 1 hour usage / month).
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It's coincidence.
They can't tell if you're tethering from a custom rom.

This has been discussed by verizon customers for some time now. Carriers can monitor tethering, rooted or not. They can also block tethering apps in the market, which is what verizon and the others have done. Sprint doesnt block the apps in the market and could care less if your tethering without paying for it. If you pay the $10 a month for premium data you have unlimited data. They care less how you use it.

I was wondering the same thing since some ROMs come with Wireless Tether, which comes from the market, and the Sense ones come with Mobile Hot Spot. I remember reading that Mobile Hot Spot connects the the devices differently than the Wireless Tether and didn't know if Sprint was able to trace if you're using one or the other. Looks like they can't tell the difference between the two. And since you have unlimited data, they'll let you use as much data to tether as you want.

mikeyinid said:
Carriers can monitor tethering, rooted or not.
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What do you base this claim on?

mattykinsx said:
What do you base this claim on?
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My girlfriend has a Nexus S 4G(unrooted) and according to her she tethered for a day and the next was told to pay for it to continue to tether.

goodboynyc said:
My girlfriend has a Nexus S 4G(unrooted) and according to her she tethered for a day and the next was told to pay for it to continue to tether.
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I'm sure it has some sort of Sprint apps on it like SprintIQ/Sprint Zone or something that could potentially monitor that.
Especially if she used the tether function that is built in.
But if you use AOSP or some sort of ROM with the Sprint monitor apps removed it they can't monitor it.
There's no way for Sprint to know if I, with my Evo, tether with CM7

mattykinsx said:
What do you base this claim on?
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http://appadvice.com/appnn/2011/03/unauthorized-tethering-warnings-atts-bark-bigger-bite
Thats about att
http://stopthecap.com/2011/05/05/ve...start-cracking-down-on-tethering-freeloaders/
This is just in general.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news...own-on-wireless-tethering-app-for-android.ars
This talks about Sprint being the only carrier that doesnt block tethering apps in the market.
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If you think for a second they cant tell whos tethering, your wrong. I cant give you the science behind it, but carriers do know whos tethering. I think alot of it based on usage. If your tethering and playing COD, that would probably piss them off more than just checking emails, or browsing forums.

mattykinsx said:
I'm sure it has some sort of Sprint apps on it like SprintIQ/Sprint Zone or something that could potentially monitor that.
Especially if she used the tether function that is built in.
But if you use AOSP or some sort of ROM with the Sprint monitor apps removed it they can't monitor it.
There's no way for Sprint to know if I, with my Evo, tether with CM7
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since the nexus s has 0 sprint apps on it, that is not the case.

mikeyinid said:
http://appadvice.com/appnn/2011/03/unauthorized-tethering-warnings-atts-bark-bigger-bite
Thats about att
http://stopthecap.com/2011/05/05/ve...start-cracking-down-on-tethering-freeloaders/
This is just in general.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news...own-on-wireless-tethering-app-for-android.ars
This talks about Sprint being the only carrier that doesnt block tethering apps in the market.
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If you think for a second they cant tell whos tethering, your wrong. I cant give you the science behind it, but carriers do know whos tethering. I think alot of it based on usage. If your tethering and playing COD, that would probably piss them off more than just checking emails, or browsing forums.
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I'm sure it is based on usage but that's no proof that they know you're tethering.
A reasonable person could use 5 GB a month tethering and I see no way and no proof that they would have any idea, unless they could see that you have downloaded a tether app from the market.
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since the nexus s has 0 sprint apps on it, that is not the case.
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You're misunderstanding.
Just because it doesn't have Sprint TV on it doesn't mean it doesn't have Sprint Framework.
Obviously you can activate and update your PRL/Profile with the Nexus S 4g so there is obviously some sort of Sprint framework and it's conceivable, that if they can tell you're tethering and it's not based on usage, (and there's been no evidence to prove they can presented here yet) that would be how.

So you think att or verizon will just send someone a letter or text saying "we know your tethering, knock it off" without REALLY knowing? Sounds like bad business to me.

mattykinsx said:
What do you base this claim on?
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There are a variety of ways they *could* track it if they wanted to. Whether or not they do is a different question, but they easily could. For example. think about some of what your computer tends to do in the background. If you're running Windows, it pings windowsupdate now and then, checks for antivirus updates from a Norton/McAfee/Kaspersky/whatever server, and even pings time.windows.com every now and then to sync your clock. All tell-tale signs you're using data on a Windows machine. I'm sure that similar clues can be identified for Mac and Linux, and that's just one way to go about it. Then it's just a question of matching up the phone's IP address at the time to an account, which I expect they track already.
Bottom line is that if someone gave me a directive and a budget to create a system to identify people who are tethering, I could come up with something that would probably be at least 90% effective, without any regard to what's on your phone.

bkrodgers is right. I don't know if Sprint does monitor, hence my question, but there are ways to look at the packets being sent to identify the source with reasonable accuracy. In addition to things like the user agent on browsers, which can be overridden but will give you away most of the time, there are other ways. There are well known network analysis tools that can look at the way low-level network negotiations work and accurately identify the specific version and operating system of a computer, and that's not even necessary because of the user agent and update signatures associated with various operating systems.
Because my tethering/hotspot usage is low compared to my normal usage (multiple gigabytes per month of podcasts and streaming audio usage), I don't think Sprint will care nearly so much about a few megs of tethering usage, but I also don't want to lose the good deal I have on my Sprint account. Thanks all for the feedback. I really wish I had some insight from a Sprint insider.

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So you think att or verizon will just send someone a letter or text saying "we know your tethering, knock it off" without REALLY knowing? Sounds like bad business to me.
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Do you really want me to answer that question? lol
wvufan said:
bkrodgers is right. I don't know if Sprint does monitor, hence my question, but there are ways to look at the packets being sent to identify the source with reasonable accuracy. In addition to things like the user agent on browsers, which can be overridden but will give you away most of the time, there are other ways. There are well known network analysis tools that can look at the way low-level network negotiations work and accurately identify the specific version and operating system of a computer, and that's not even necessary because of the user agent and update signatures associated with various operating systems.
Because my tethering/hotspot usage is low compared to my normal usage (multiple gigabytes per month of podcasts and streaming audio usage), I don't think Sprint will care nearly so much about a few megs of tethering usage, but I also don't want to lose the good deal I have on my Sprint account. Thanks all for the feedback. I really wish I had some insight from a Sprint insider.
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I really don't know if they can tell or not but I haven't really seen evidence that they actually can besides knowing the market apps you get or ridiculous usage.
When you tether via Android it's the same kinda concept as having a wireless router. [no, it is not the same exact thing]
Can your ISP tell you have a router?
Because routers have a firewall built-in, usually.
But that's not applicable to tether apps.
Furthermore, even I have received the Sprint text message about the tether charge and I have never tethered.
I'm *not* saying is or isn't capable of telling if you're tethering, I just want some proof.
Edit: I just thought of a *possible way* they could tell.
MAC Addresses.
If there are multiple MAC addresses that are using your connection that would give it away right there.
Is that what's going on? No proof.

I should clarify that I'm not saying I believe Sprint is actually using anything like what I described. Though I wouldn't rule out Verizon and AT&T...they seem to know. For some reason I think Sprint's less evil, which might be naive. But they also seem to be less concerned about how much data people are using.
I don't think it's true that Sprint doesn't care if you tether though. If they didn't, they wouldn't be having manufacturers strip it out of their ROMs, and they wouldn't be selling a $30/month add-on. But that doesn't mean they care enough to go to the trouble I describe. At least not at this point.
I think they may have used data usage as an indicator in the past, but with streaming HD videos, music, and all sorts of other data heavy apps, it's easily possible to go past a couple GB with legit phone-only usage. At this point they'd need to go to something more sophisticated, and I don't think Sprint's concerned at that level.

mattykinsx said:
Edit: I just thought of a *possible way* they could tell.
MAC Addresses.
If there are multiple MAC addresses that are using your connection that would give it away right there.
Is that what's going on? No proof.
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Actually, I think they can only see the MAC address of the device directly connected to their network. Your ISP just sees your router's MAC address (though most routers have the ability to spoof the MAC address of the machine you were originally setup on, if your cable company requires that). Since your phone is basically the router, they'd just see the phone's MAC address.
But regardless, it still just comes down to whether they care enough to invest in a system to detect that. One way or the other, it can be done with pretty good accuracy if they really wanted to.

hhmmm, no comment

No tethering on NExus 7?

Where is the native Tethering option in the Nexus 7??
Don't tell me that this is missing also.. I am starting to think it was a big mistake to buy a "pure google" tablet. Yeah, pure "emptyness"

RusherDude said:
Where is the native Tethering option in the Nexus 7??
Don't tell me that this is missing also.. I am starting to think it was a big mistake to buy a "pure google" tablet. Yeah, pure "emptyness"
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What do you mean? The N7 is a WiFi only device. Or am I misunderstanding your question?
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RusherDude said:
Where is the native Tethering option in the Nexus 7??
Don't tell me that this is missing also.. I am starting to think it was a big mistake to buy a "pure google" tablet. Yeah, pure "emptyness"
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I have a solution, sell it to..no give it to me. LOL
I have tethered the N7 countless times. You use the wifi to search out porto hotspot you create on your phone, whatever it may be. Then connect.
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The n7 is a WiFi only. Smartphones can tether because of their 2g/3g capability.
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Nexus 7 is not a Wifi Device only, it also has a microUSB connector so it could tether via that one.
And anyway, even if it has wifi only and to be honest wouldn't have sense to tether to other wifi devices (since they could gather wifi from the primary sender..) but why they took us the option anyway? If I wanna, just for the lulz of it, block my smartphone from getting WiFi from the router, and do thethering from the nexus 7, why they have to cut out this option? :S

Your question was fine your answer was stupid.
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RusherDude said:
Nexus 7 is not a Wifi Device only, it also has a microUSB connector so it could tether via that one.
And anyway, even if it has wifi only and to be honest wouldn't have sense to tether to other wifi devices (since they could gather wifi from the primary sender..) but why they took us the option anyway? If I wanna, just for the lulz of it, block my smartphone from getting WiFi from the router, and do thethering from the nexus 7, why they have to cut out this option? :S
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lolwut?
You mean this?
Or this?
If not, I think you're misunderstanding how people commonly use the term tethering.
If I am wrong, you need to tell us, exactly, how you want to "tether".

RusherDude said:
Where is the native Tethering option in the Nexus 7??
Don't tell me that this is missing also.. I am starting to think it was a big mistake to buy a "pure google" tablet. Yeah, pure "emptyness"
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RockNrolling said:
What do you mean? The N7 is a WiFi only device. Or am I misunderstanding your question?
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I m confused too..

RusherDude said:
Nexus 7 is not a Wifi Device only, it also has a microUSB connector so it could tether via that one.
And anyway, even if it has wifi only and to be honest wouldn't have sense to tether to other wifi devices (since they could gather wifi from the primary sender..) but why they took us the option anyway? If I wanna, just for the lulz of it, block my smartphone from getting WiFi from the router, and do thethering from the nexus 7, why they have to cut out this option? :S
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No disrespect but ur coming off as stupid right now
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I'm assuming he means the ability to use USB Tethering (as in, provide Internet to a device or computer, over USB, from the Nexus 7 and a WiFi). A bit surprised people haven't really heard of this option, but it is indeed missing from the Nexus 7.

espionage724 said:
I'm assuming he means the ability to use USB Tethering (as in, provide Internet to a device or computer, over USB, from the Nexus 7 and a WiFi). A bit surprised people haven't really heard of this option, but it is indeed missing from the Nexus 7.
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Exactly.. it seems that noone knows about tethering FROM TABLET TO PC/OTHERS, when it is clearly an option in some scenarios.
Thank you for confirming that its missing. What a deception..

espionage724 said:
I'm assuming he means the ability to use USB Tethering (as in, provide Internet to a device or computer, over USB, from the Nexus 7 and a WiFi). A bit surprised people haven't really heard of this option, but it is indeed missing from the Nexus 7.
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Eh, doesn't really shock me. It doesn't really seem like a huge amount of people do that, at least compared to wifi tethering.
That being said, do tablets/phones normally have the option? Usually I see it having to be implemented after release by the community.
Edit: Opps, misread one of the links I put up.
Still some clarification other than "No tethering on Nexus 7" would've helped. There are multiple ways to do it.
Also, why not research before buying if it is such a big deal?

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That being said, do tablets/phones normally have the option? Usually I see it having to be implemented after release by the community.
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Non WiFi-only devices usually have it (my SGT7 had the option), can't really say if WiFi-only devices have it though.

espionage724 said:
I'm assuming he means the ability to use USB Tethering (as in, provide Internet to a device or computer, over USB, from the Nexus 7 and a WiFi). A bit surprised people haven't really heard of this option, but it is indeed missing from the Nexus 7.
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OK I get what you're saying. But I fail to see in what instance I would want to tether (share the internet connection) from my N7 with another device via USB.
Would I tether from my N7 to my phone? My phone can use whatever WiFi my N7 is on. Not to mention my phone has 3G.
Would I tether from my N7 to my laptop? My laptop can use whatever WiFi my N7 is using.
Now, I could see the the reverse of both of those circumstances. If I had 3G but no WiFi, I would want to share the 3G from my phone with my N7. Or if my laptop was using an Ethernet connection and no WiFi was available, I would want to share the connection from my laptop to my N7.
I hope I'm just misinterpreting this whole thing and I'll be slapping my forehead when I understand, but from what I've read so far, that seems unlikely.
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WOW ..
My only Question is WHY.. Nearly all if not all laptops in the past 10 years have had wifi built in. I think its not a option because it makes no sense to have another wifi capable device to usb tether a available wifi network when it can just get the signal itself . Likely stronger and more stable . faster then adding another hop thru data transfer .
My phone has usb tether built in with ICS .. You can use a app to enable what your looking for .I think pda net does it..
Good Luck People in here do understand what your asking . The confusion is WHY ...

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OK I get what you're saying. But I fail to see in what instance I would want to tether (share the internet connection) from my N7 with another device via USB.
Would I tether from my N7 to my phone? My phone can use whatever WiFi my N7 is on. Not to mention my phone has 3G.
Would I tether from my N7 to my laptop? My laptop can use whatever WiFi my N7 is using.
Now, I could see the the reverse of both of those circumstances. If I had 3G but no WiFi, I would want to share the 3G from my phone with my N7. Or if my laptop was using an Ethernet connection and no WiFi was available, I would want to share the connection from my laptop to my N7.
I hope I'm just misinterpreting this whole thing and I'll be slapping my forehead when I understand, but from what I've read so far, that seems unlikely.
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That is pretty much it. Commonly I see it as "reverse tethering" where someone wants to use the computers internet connection on the phone via USB connection. Due to lack of wifi/cell data connectivity, or to save data on their plan.

biohazrd51 said:
That is pretty much it. Commonly I see it as "reverse tethering" where someone wants to use the computers internet connection on the phone via USB connection. Due to lack of wifi/cell data connectivity, or to save data on their plan.
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Ah, I understand. I see how that has the potential to maybe be useful . But at it's best, it seems like a very limited application.
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RockNrolling said:
Ah, I understand. I see how that has the potential to maybe be useful . But at it's best, it seems like a very limited application.
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Yeah. Like espionage724 said, his SGT7 had it. I'm not entire sure, but I've never heard of stock android having this ability. I'd be willing to bet that the manufacturer put it in themselves.
Moral of the story: do your homework before buying.

I guess it would be useful if your wifi router was down so you could use your PC's internet access.
If implemented properly is should be faster for LAN file transfers (assuming you get good usb transfer speeds...obviously a PC on a gigabit LAN will crush wifi, so the usb 2 is the limiting factor...usb 2 is supposed to be a lot faster than wifi, but in practice, it does not always pan out).
I guess I could find a use for it. In our house 99% of the time only our tablets and phones use wifi. All of our fixed position devices are on a gigabit lan (media players, blueray player, HT recevier, wii, main PC, printer, even our laptop, which is really just the kitchen table PC now that we have a bunch of tablets). When I work from home I dock my work laptop on the LAN, and so does my wife. Wireless blows when there is a gigE jack nearby.

I've been trying to get reverse USB tether to work on the Nexus 7 with no luck

Tmobile Nexus 6 News..

So it looks as wifi calling should go out to tmobiles nexus 6 by the end of the first quarter.. and volte for the nexus 6 and tmobile is nearly done with testing http://www.tmonews.com/2015/02/wi-fi-calling-coming-to-nexus-6-by-the-end-of-q1/

It's great news for those who do use it. Personally I don't so yeah... I got one of those routers from T-Mo that is supposed to be used for Wi-Fi calling and have never used it for that. Otherwise it was a free $150-$200 router that works awesome!

simms22 said:
So it looks as wifi calling should go out to tmobiles nexus 6 by the end of the first quarter.. and volte for the nexus 6 and tmobile is nearly done with testing http://www.tmonews.com/2015/02/wi-fi-calling-coming-to-nexus-6-by-the-end-of-q1/
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Awesome I've been wondering when it will be enable. Looking forward to both VoLTE and Wifi-Calling!!!

Any ideas how it will work? Will it be an app compatible with any custom rom or will it be something rom builders will need to go integrate?

kingston73 said:
Any ideas how it will work? Will it be an app compatible with any custom rom or will it be something rom builders will need to go integrate?
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i have nooooo idea..

I am going to guess application like google hangouts dialer.

Gorjira said:
It's great news for those who do use it. Personally I don't so yeah... I got one of those routers from T-Mo that is supposed to be used for Wi-Fi calling and have never used it for that. Otherwise it was a free $150-$200 router that works awesome!
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Same here.... Amazing router

Gorjira said:
It's great news for those who do use it. Personally I don't so yeah... I got one of those routers from T-Mo that is supposed to be used for Wi-Fi calling and have never used it for that. Otherwise it was a free $150-$200 router that works awesome!
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Same here.... Amazing router
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But you have to return the router after you terminate services or they will bill you for 100 dollars.
Something to keep in mind, and it will still be 100 dollars a year from now. Or two. Or three.. in three the router is definitely going to be less than 100 dollars market value.

It's still a free 5ghz AC router...I think I can remember to return a router

punisherb273 said:
It's still a free 5ghz AC router...I think I can remember to return a router
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I agree and I have had tmo for almost 7 years I think I might be around for a while

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It's still a free 5ghz AC router...I think I can remember to return a router
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Its a POS that won't run openwrt.

doitright said:
Its a POS that won't run openwrt.
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I had a dual band router with openwrt, and when the 2.4GHz hardware died (which happened far earlier than it should have, probably due to WRT overdriving the radio), and replaced it with a Netgear N900, expecting to get a wired router with WRT and run it as a WAP. Turns out there was not a single feature I used in WRT that was missing in the stock firmware, and the thing was rock solid as far as stability goes. I replaced the Netgear with the ASUS one from T-Mo (actually turned it into a WAP for better basement coverage) and it has even MORE features out of the box, like more powerful QOS support. Openwrt/DD-WRT/Tomato are nice, but they are far more than the vast majority of people need - even power users like me. I'm not using my CCNA skills to do stuff like routing multiple subnets here at home, and if I did, I would grab a used Cisco 861 and run the ASUS as a WAP behind it rather than messing with WRT.

Need that volte, hate dropping down to 3g when making voice calls then waiting for lte to kick in.

Illrigger said:
I had a dual band router with openwrt, and when the 2.4GHz hardware died (which happened far earlier than it should have, probably due to WRT overdriving the radio), and replaced it with a Netgear N900, expecting to get a wired router with WRT and run it as a WAP. Turns out there was not a single feature I used in WRT that was missing in the stock firmware, and the thing was rock solid as far as stability goes. I replaced the Netgear with the ASUS one from T-Mo (actually turned it into a WAP for better basement coverage) and it has even MORE features out of the box, like more powerful QOS support. Openwrt/DD-WRT/Tomato are nice, but they are far more than the vast majority of people need - even power users like me. I'm not using my CCNA skills to do stuff like routing multiple subnets here at home, and if I did, I would grab a used Cisco 861 and run the ASUS as a WAP behind it rather than messing with WRT.
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Because obviously every hack on the internet is CCNA.
Right kid.
You obviously wrote this all up to try to defend yourself, but not working.
Instead, you have a spyware infested piece of unstable junk.
Have fun with it.

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Because obviously every hack on the internet is CCNA.
Right kid.
You obviously wrote this all up to try to defend yourself, but not working.
Instead, you have a spyware infested piece of unstable junk.
Have fun with it.
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Dude, why so hostile? Did tmo and/or asus personally offend you at some point in your life?
I've been using the tmo/asus router for a month now and it works great. Not everybody needs high level, supertech setups. Some people just want a wifi signal that works well...

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Its a POS that won't run openwrt.
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Well for the rest of us that have a life beyond hacking a router, for no reason, it works just fine. Plug it in and connect. Its free 5 gigggaahertz

punisherb273 said:
Well for the rest of us that have a life beyond hacking a router, for no reason, it works just fine. Plug it in and connect. Its free 5 gigggaahertz
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Plug it in and they get to snoop on all your communications.
Also, its quite clear that your opinion of openwrt has been severely tainted by... probably a complete moron. Plug it in, and it works better than fine.

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Because obviously every hack on the internet is CCNA.
Right kid.
You obviously wrote this all up to try to defend yourself, but not working.
Instead, you have a spyware infested piece of unstable junk.
Have fun with it.
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I have been an enterprise SysAdmin for 15 years. I have been working with network equipment (the enterprise Cisco stuff, not your wannabe WRT crap) for over 10. I am neither a kid, nor a hack, thanks.
What's your network background that gives your opinion on WRT so valid, and what features make it so special? Because like I said, I have used it and there was nothing in it that made me miss it when I stopped.

Illrigger said:
I have been an enterprise SysAdmin for 15 years. I have been working with network equipment (the enterprise Cisco stuff, not your wannabe WRT crap) for over 10. I am neither a kid, nor a hack, thanks.
What's your network background that gives your opinion on WRT so valid, and what features make it so special? Because like I said, I have used it and there was nothing in it that made me miss it when I stopped.
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I second you on the wrt stuff. Yes while it is nice it is not necessary for home use at all. Especially since the Asus-68u / TMO-1900 AC (same router/WAP etc.) has it built in for the most part and actually works better than WRT crap-ware as I determine it. I to would get a used Cisco or aerohive or enterprise level hardware over any home-based consumer router for security and other things that just are not available. But that is not this subject I have the TMO-1900AC and Asus-68u at home I use the TMO as WAP and Asus as primary this works very well for wifi calling etc. I believe wifi calling will be built in to the phone on update not a wannabe app like sprint.

T-Mobile is reporting that WiFi calling won't be in the 5.1 update... This is getting old.

T-mobile is now giving free wifi router

Today I called t-mobile customer care for a few questions and before I got off the phone the rep asked me if I wanted a free router that gives great wifi calling, it use to cost $50 to get it but now is free. The only thigh you must know it's that if you decide to leave t-mobile you better return it or they will hit you with a nice bill.

Yeah that has been out for almost a 9 months.. Worth it
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Yea i got one yesterday havent set it up yet lol

Got it awhile back, it's a great router

Anyone know what model Asus it compares with? I have an RT-AC66U. If nothing else I figure T-Mos might make a nice extender.

Grims said:
Anyone know what model Asus it compares with? I have an RT-AC66U. If nothing else I figure T-Mos might make a nice extender.
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I haven't received it yet to tell you

Grims said:
Anyone know what model Asus it compares with? I have an RT-AC66U. If nothing else I figure T-Mos might make a nice extender.
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It ac68. The step up
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Grims said:
Anyone know what model Asus it compares with? I have an RT-AC66U. If nothing else I figure T-Mos might make a nice extender.
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It's actually the exact same hardware as the RT-AC68U. In fact I'm running builds of Merlin's custom RT-AC68U firmware on mine (I got mine soon after they became available before Tmo sent out an OTA that locked the bootloader).
Prior to getting my "cellspot", I actually had the exact same router that you do now The RT-AC66U is definitely a solid router, but I've found the 68U to be a fairly significant upgrade. I'd say that there's really no reason not to "rent" one for a refundable deposit. I was initially planning on keeping it for $100, but now I'm thinking that by the time I feel the need for a new router there will likely be better / newer models available for not too much more than that. Anyway, I get better and more consistent wifi performance with the 68 vs. the 66, it has more memory and more features (ex. QoS, which the 66U can't handle due to it packing less RAM), and if you decide to downgrade the bootloader to run custom firmware such as Merlin's (MAD soldering skills required!), then you can even overclock it!
So, yes, this is quite an excellent router. When Tmo started offering them gratis-ish it was some of the best hardware on the market. It's no longer top tier, but IME it's significantly better than the preceding Asus model. My only (minor) concern with getting one now is that I don't know how configurable the settings are with TMo's locked down config... still, for a refundable $25, I'd say it's worth at least checking one out; especially for people who don't have an AC router (every speed test I run from my N4 or tablet maxes out my 50 / 10 cable service... seriously, never seen a wifi speed test slower than like 47 Mbit down).
Oh btw, I'd almost definitely use the Cellspot as your main router. I initially planned on using my AC66U as a bridge or repeater or something, but as I live in an apt. and don't need a huge amount of space covered, my research into those kinds of applications generally made me feel that setting something like that up would "hurt" my LAN rather than help it. I did just find a good use for it though... I recently got a NAS with dual lan ports, so since my old router is just sitting around I'm going to configure it as a switch so that I can use port trunking. I don't want to discourage you from researching everything that could use an extra router for. A good site / forum for general home networking info with sort of an emphasis on Asus hardware (you'll also find the above mentioned Merlin there) is smallnetbuilder.com. Good luck all! I'm pretty familiar with many "cellspot" related things, so if anyone has any other questions I'd be happy to help or at least point you in the right direction :good:

jazzmachine said:
It's actually the exact same hardware as the RT-AC68U. In fact I'm running builds of Merlin's custom RT-AC68U firmware on mine (I got mine soon after they became available before Tmo sent out an OTA that locked the bootloader).
Prior to getting my "cellspot", I actually had the exact same router that you do now The RT-AC66U is definitely a solid router, but I've found the 68U to be a fairly significant upgrade. I'd say that there's really no reason not to "rent" one for a refundable deposit. I was initially planning on keeping it for $100, but now I'm thinking that by the time I feel the need for a new router there will likely be better / newer models available for not too much more than that. Anyway, I get better and more consistent wifi performance with the 68 vs. the 66, it has more memory and more features (ex. QoS, which the 66U can't handle due to it packing less RAM), and if you decide to downgrade the bootloader to run custom firmware such as Merlin's (MAD soldering skills required!), then you can even overclock it!
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Wow, thanks for all the info. That is a good deal then. It's too bad to hear about the bootloader getting locked. The RT-AC66U actually has QoS, but it turns off hardware acceleration. I tried to use it once and it all but killed my internet access. Kind of odd, I remember using QoS on my ancient linksys router 10 years ago running DDWRT.

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Wow, thanks for all the info. That is a good deal then. It's too bad to hear about the bootloader getting locked. The RT-AC66U actually has QoS, but it turns off hardware acceleration. I tried to use it once and it all but killed my internet access. Kind of odd, I remember using QoS on my ancient linksys router 10 years ago running DDWRT.
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Ah, my bad on the QoS... I leave QoS off, but that's one thing about the Cellspot: I'm pretty sure that it's enabled by default to prioritize VOIP and I don't think it's modifiable (the whole purpose being to "encourage'' wifi calling and all). I'm not sure if it does so to the degree that it'll slow down a download on a PC if you get a call... I suppose the biggest variable there is the speed of your connection. Actually by far, the most comprehensive source of info on it is actually a Slickdeals thread. It's insanely long, but the OP was edited into an extremely informative wiki! It is possible to downgrade the bootloader to flash alternative firmware, and doing so will actually cause it to identify itself on your network as an RT-68ACU rather than a TM-AC1900 and is explained by a guy named Engineer in that thread. It requires a pretty risky hardware mod involving some extremely precise soldering, but if you've got the skills I'd definitely recommend it. I'd like to actually do it myself sometime but need to work more on my soldering precision (semi OT but related to phones in a sense, I've gotten into buying relatively cheap headphones and modding them head-fi style to greatly improve the sq - classic ex. KSC75 )
Anyway, here's the thread with pretty much everything you'd want to know and more re: the cellspot https://slickdeals.net/f/7193262-t-...c-router-by-asus-free-for-postpaid-25-deposit

I have the T-Mobile router running on AP Mode since I use pfSense as my main router. I have been experiencing laggy internet on my Note 4. Not sure if it is related to QoS. I do hope T-Mobile releases a firmware update as their router is behind in updates compared to RT-AC68U.
Anyone else seeing this lag issue with TM-AC1900 router?

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I'm pretty sure that it's enabled by default to prioritize VOIP and I don't think it's modifiable [/url]
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The QoS feature is separate from the T-Mobile modifications. The tm1900ac still has the option to enable or disable QoS. Enabling this feature does turn off hardware acceleration though, just like an ac68u.

helpmejeebus said:
The QoS feature is separate from the T-Mobile modifications. The tm1900ac still has the option to enable or disable QoS. Enabling this feature does turn off hardware acceleration though, just like an ac68u.
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Is this feature under AP mode as well?

Yup I've had the router for about 2 months and it's nice!!! It's only $99 if u buy it outright!

SPreston2001 said:
Yup I've had the router for about 2 months and it's nice!!! It's only $99 if u buy it outright!
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I just receive it today it's great

You can also opt to get the free signal Booster instead, if you don't have WiFi

dotson817 said:
You can also opt to get the free signal Booster instead, if you don't have WiFi
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So it's not a singnal booster? Just wifi calling?

joe1blue said:
So it's not a singnal booster? Just wifi calling?
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The cell booster does lte. U need lte in area for it to boost. The WiFi router does WiFi and WiFi calling boost but not cell signal
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BACARDILIMON said:
The cell booster does lte. U need lte in area for it to boost. The WiFi router does WiFi and WiFi calling boost but not cell signal
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So besides being a pricy router it doesn't do anything better than my old netgear that also allows me to do wifi calling?

joe1blue said:
So besides being a pricy router it doesn't do anything better than my old netgear that also allows me to do wifi calling?
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It depends on how technical your gonna get with it.. Setting it up stock blows any netgear or lnksys router right out of the water.
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