anyone has any thoughts on why Google removed the Camera Exposure compensation (+/- ev) on Android 5.1? Let's discuss
schizophrenia said:
anyone has any thoughts on why Google removed the Camera Exposure compensation (+/- ev) on Android 5.1? Let's discuss
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Is this manual exposure on the Google camera? If so I was wondering why it wasn't showing up when I turned it on >_<
Powereh said:
Is this manual exposure on the Google camera? If so I was wondering why it wasn't showing up when I turned it on >_<
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you are right. Not only it does not show up on Google Camera, but also because this module is removed, exposure can no longer be adjusted under all other camera apps.
Stupid of Google to remove it, I thought it was strange. They seem to be doing a lot of removing of things lately...
hmmmmm
schizophrenia said:
anyone has any thoughts on why Google removed the Camera Exposure compensation (+/- ev) on Android 5.1? Let's discuss
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Automatic exposure compensation is (on my 5.0.1) the achilles heel of the video camera. It just sucks as it lurches to expose +/- . It "stairsteps" instead of flowing smoothly. It is very easy to replicate on my release...
Use a static shot, sit a friend in front of a blank wall or a sky (with the sun behind you if outdoors) and slowly pan and and down. The exposure should adjust smoothly, not lurch into the next plus or minus value. All video cameras perform this as it is necessary for video.
Removing the control option is very odd, as using a third party app you can lock the exposure and prevent this artifact. This is suboptimal but a workaround in a pinch.
I hope this is a precursor to some effort made to fix this crucial (for video at least) working feature.
Much of what people associate with iPhone 6 superior video is due to this issue IN MY OPINION.. The iPhone 6 video is silky smooth,the Nexux 6 has plenty of horsepower and a good lens but the CODEC and guts were not optimized.
The toggle is still in the settings
mnsportsguy1978 said:
The toggle is still in the settings
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yes we know the toggles are there but the actually +/- wont show up.
try it
I too can confirm that manual exposure isn't working anymore. I was using camera zoom fx. I mapped the exposure +/- to my volume buttons and when pressing it it indicates an exposure change but nothing happens.
Hopefully its just a new camera api devs need to incorporate in their apps via an update. I have no idea if this is the case, so hopefully someone more knowledgeable can chime in on this
i thought my phone software is messed up and i just need
to reflash the software again to fix it
good to know that it is google problem
It's reported at https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=161613
This affects both the old and new Camera APIs - both of these now report 0 for min and max exposure (i.e., not supported). This definitely worked with Android 5 on the Nexus 6.
Just starred this issue on Google code. Hope they will explain why they removed that function or admit that its just a bug!
mdwh said:
It's reported at https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=161613
This affects both the old and new Camera APIs - both of these now report 0 for min and max exposure (i.e., not supported). This definitely worked with Android 5 on the Nexus 6.
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thanks i just starred this on their page, you guys should do this too.
Starred as well.
I starred it too and also give google a feedback about this issue using the feedback link in the stock app. Hope the bug will fixed soon; it's really annoying to me!
Hi guys,
i've realized that the compensation problem since 5.1 android affects also a great app like Camera FV-5 on my Nexus 6. It worked very well...I'm really disappointed...why did they do this??
any solution?
ciao!
gannjunior said:
Hi guys,
i've realized that the compensation problem since 5.1 android affects also a great app like Camera FV-5 on my Nexus 6. It worked very well...I'm really disappointed...why did they do this??
any solution?
ciao!
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seems they have replied that there are bugs they are fixing but unfortunately there have not been a fix. It is indeed super annoying and Android team is just disappointing with all these Lollipop bugs
I was an early subscriber of the bug report on Google code. This is a very annoying issue to me, I hope it will be fixed on 5.1.1. I'm impatient to receive the OTA update. Is there anyone who has sideloaded and has news about?
mathieau said:
I was an early subscriber of the bug report on Google code. This is a very annoying issue to me, I hope it will be fixed on 5.1.1. I'm impatient to receive the OTA update. Is there anyone who has sideloaded and has news about?
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It's still broken\missing on my Nexus 6 with 5.1.1\LYZ28E. The option is there in settings, but doesn't do anything.
xdatastic said:
It's still broken\missing on my Nexus 6 with 5.1.1\LYZ28E. The option is there in settings, but doesn't do anything.
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Android development team is being super irresponsible to Nexus 6 users.
schizophrenia said:
Android development team is being super irresponsible to Nexus 6 users.
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And not only with users. This bug affects the APIs so every developer can't use ea compensation! Great apps as manual camera and fv5 now don't worth the money on n6. I'm really disappointed too!
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Here are some details I uncovered in regards to the camera of Moto G:
Camera specification:
- 5mpxl
- f/2.4
- 4mm focal length.
Most definitely a small sensor, (< 1/3.2' ), likely 1/4'. Also very likely won't have BSI for better low light performance.
Meanwhile there's no good teardown (yet) to find out the make of the camera module, by going through the spec sheets of many other phones, the sensor is likely to be same one you find in Lumia 625.
Most of you will probably agree that Moto G doesn't take good photos. Meanwhile the optic is the best it should be well capable of better.
Issue at the moment is that there's TOO MUCH noise reduction, which can cause a very 'water-paint' feel to the pictures, and destroying any form of sharpness.
From my test with stock and many other camera apps (Lenovo, focal, a better cam, etc etc), while they help with the compression, focus, white-balance and metering etc. and can help the quality of the photos. They don't fix the sharpness/noise reduction issue with the camera. It seems like it's been hard-coded into the software for the camera.
Are there anyone out there who will be able to fix this?
The Motorola camera app was updated today, has this improved the noise reduction?
Nuthin' but a 'Moto G' thang
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Are there anyone out there who will be able to fix this?
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Google seems to be working on a completely overhauled Hardware Abstraction Layer for the cameras that will allow apps to tap more directly into the camera pipelines. They'll be able, for instance, to get RAW captures and and do their own custom demoisacing/debayering and the whole post- pipeline. That would probably fix any heavy-handed processing done by any of the OEMs.
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Google seems to be working on a completely overhauled Hardware Abstraction Layer for the cameras that will allow apps to tap more directly into the camera pipelines. They'll be able, for instance, to get RAW captures and and do their own custom demoisacing/debayering and the whole post- pipeline. That would probably fix any heavy-handed processing done by any of the OEMs.
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RAW just gives an uncompressed image, there's no real guarantee that no processing takes place..
I'm going to report my findings on the new moto camera update. From the look of it it's just a routine, general update that shouldn't make much difference.
bien irleeno
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RAW just gives an uncompressed image, there's no real guarantee that no processing takes place..
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Not really. RAW is much more than an uncompressed image, it's as close to the raw, unprocessed sensor output as possible. No demosaicing, no tone mapping/gamma, no conversion from (typically) 12 bits per pixel to 8 bits, no processing and no lossy compression. If any of this is done, then it isn't RAW.
For you which camera app is the best ?
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For you which camera app is the best ?
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camera awesome is amazing and vignette its very good try with this app's u can get a better pic from stock cam
I think the original Android app takes better photos
The only problem with this app is the HDR
I installed the original app 4.2, 4.3 and 4.4, none of them has the HDR
Any way to solve this?
I've just installed snap camera, I have to say it is streets ahead of stock moto cam.
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I wasn't able to post before/after comparison with the stock camera app as it updated itself. So far I'm not seeing any different image wise between the update.
I've done some comparison shots in between the cameras, and added in my Ativ S (GS3 WP8 alter-ego) as a bonus.
Snap Camera focus very well, and I was able to take good shots with my shaky hands. However, the blurring issue is very apparent with all camera apps..
N.B. The Focal photo was slightly blurred due to my shaky hands, sorry!
Just to clear it, you're talking about this paid app ?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.marginz.snap&hl=en
SlashGear have posted an article on the Camera software update released by Motorola.
This update does a tiny bit to improve all areas of shooting with manual controls, and shows sign that Motorola isn’t going to let this device fall by the wayside at all, whatsoever.
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[SlashGear]
lost101 said:
SlashGear have posted an article on the Camera software update released by Motorola.
[SlashGear]
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I dunno Slashgear articles seems iffy...
Moto G ALREADY had the Exposure/Focal Ring tbh, seems they didnt notice or use it in their original review. This exposure/focus ring is the basis of their camera comparison it seems.
I did not find options to manual focus and exposure.
Psychoferno said:
I did not find options to manual focus and exposure.
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It's just the ring that you can drag around the screen to choose the point of focus and exposure. I'm sure that we (at least I did!) had this from the beginning on Moto G (maybe the X didn't and that's where the stories are coming from?) and the recent update was basically bug fixes for us.
Yes, the G Moto already had this function. Thanks for the clarification.
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Just to clear it, you're talking about this paid app ?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.marginz.snap&hl=en
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Yes, I just used the trial for the comparison.
Note that XDA compresses the image so it's very hard to tell from the photos I posted.
But the Moto-G is absolutely no match for the camera on my Ativ-S/GS3. Not sure if it will fair better if the noise reduction issues been fixed.
But Snap Camera seem to do the best job out of the apps I've tried, for my shaky hand of course. Not compared the HDR mode yet but stock camera do that quite well.
any comparison between s3?^
t-bon3 said:
The Motorola camera app was updated today, has this improved the noise reduction?
Nuthin' but a 'Moto G' thang
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Camera apps rarely make any significant difference in quality, unless they start passing different parameters/settings to the camera HAL.
Usually, if you see major changes in camera performance, it's HAL changes, which require a system firmware update.
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Usually, if you see major changes in camera performance, it's HAL changes, which require a system firmware update.
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I'm guessing that we'll get the Camera HAL v3 with Kit Kat 4.5. I mean, that's the kind of feature that would justify a version bump. Hopefully the hardware will be compliant enough that it won't have to run in the Limited Semantics mode.
Change to 4K/2160p in Quality Settings! The only real compression is on youtube's side. And I will say I see a little better quality on my Master File than on youtube.
I decided to test the 4k video recording on the Nexus 6 by shooting my entire vacation with it. I've compiled a recap video showcasing the camera's abilities.
-There conditions recorded in are: high light, low light, sunny, overcast, indoors and outdoors, etc.
-I've zoomed in a few times and moved the phone to force refocus in a few clips.
-There has been NO post editing to the footage such as color correction, cropping, stabilizing, etc.
-Crossfading, fade to black, muting of audio, and title overlays are the only alterations made to compile this video
ENJOY!
Looks like OIS keeps making things a bit juttery and focusing in and out at times.
knitler said:
Looks like OIS keeps making things a bit juttery and focusing in and out at times.
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Yes Google camera does that. Same on nexus 5
rootSU said:
Yes Google camera does that. Same on nexus 5
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Does using another camera app prevent it?
knitler said:
Does using another camera app prevent it?
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I've never tried. I doubt it
Then it's a hardware issue I assume.
knitler said:
Then it's a hardware issue I assume.
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No... But 3rd party cameras are not a complete solution. They use the existing libs and camera HAL etc, which is software.
But you can try it, who knows?
i need to look around to see if there are any apps that lock focus.
That would come in handy
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i need to look around to see if there are any apps that lock focus.
That would come in handy
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Try with Cinema FV-5
I watched the whole thing before realizing my monitor at work isn't 4K
nice video - I'll have to watch it later at home to really see the quality. The focusing issue sucks and is really pronounced on this phone, I wonder if L Camera is any better at it.
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Try with Cinema FV-5
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I have that app in my wish list. Gotta do some more research to see if it offers what I want. I prefer simplicity like the stock app is designed, but I don't think google will ever include these especiall features.. Including 60/120/240 fps.
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Try with Cinema FV-5
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camera focus doesnt seem to be an issue with cinema fv-5. pretty sure its an android issue as my nexus 5 had the same problem (as mentioned above). anyway i just shot a few minutes of 4k video w cinema fv-5 and i dont see any re-focusing nonsense going on
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I watched the whole thing before realizing my monitor at work isn't 4K
nice video - I'll have to watch it later at home to really see the quality.
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Did you get to watch it in all its glory? Lol
Cinema FV-5 seems to fix the constant jittery focus issue. Wish I make this video test in that app instead
Manual Camera is, by far, the most feature-packed camera app for the Nexus 6. Full support with the new camera API's too ?
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Manual Camera is, by far, the most feature-packed camera app for the Nexus 6. Full support with the new camera API's too
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fv5 supports the new apis as well. i read manual camera has issues. like you can't zoom and theres no way to switch between front and rear cameras...
but on topic, does manual camera support video recording?
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fv5 supports the new apis as well.
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I hope they add 60/120 fps soon. That's the only camera feature I really want
Open camera supports everything people!!!! Just downloaded it and is now my default camera!!!! It support all resolutions for stills and recording, shows amount of memory left in real time, and a lot of other things and you get really check the options for a lot and best part of all its open source!!! So always free and never ad filled, I think Google should have hired this guy to make their camera app!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera
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I started watching the video on my phone, then decided to stream it to my 42 inch flat screen tv to check out the quality on a larger scale, and then realized my 42 inch TV is lower resolution than my phone as a result. lol!
i was recently looking around for other camera apps so as to see how the device's ability to shoot in RAW compares to various cameras. I was considering trying FV5 but was checking out the free alternatives first.
I tried L Camera, which did let me adjust ISO, white balance, and so on, but it had some pretty major issues that need to be worked out still.
While I haven't tried FV5 yet (so I can't say much about that app specifically) I just tried out Open Camera (the above post caused me to remember it showing up in the app store several times while I was browsing) and wowee it's actually really good so far. Only one bug so far that I've encountered and it's very minor. The customization and various settings are really well thought out.
It says it can do 60/120 fps with a disclaimer that it may not always reach the designated fps if the hardware doesn't support it..so maybe?
auto-focus seemed quite a bit faster compared to google's stock camera app and it's much easier to adjust the lighting quickly than any other camera apps I've tried so far.
Right now the only thing I can really find "wrong" with it is the overall design and layout of the app, but it's not poorly designed at all.
I'll be using Open Camera as my default camera app until a major flaw presents itself or google amps up it's own app to compete. Very pleasantly surprised so far.
Robert_W said:
Change to 4K/2160p in Quality Settings! The only real compression is on youtube's side. And I will say I see a little better quality on my Master File than on youtube.
I decided to test the 4k video recording on the Nexus 6 by shooting my entire vacation with it. I've compiled a recap video showcasing the camera's abilities.
-There conditions recorded in are: high light, low light, sunny, overcast, indoors and outdoors, etc.
-I've zoomed in a few times and moved the phone to force refocus in a few clips.
-There has been NO post editing to the footage such as color correction, cropping, stabilizing, etc.
-Crossfading, fade to black, muting of audio, and title overlays are the only alterations made to compile this video
ENJOY!
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Awesome video and very helpful. Thank you.
Recently seen that for the latest 8** series Snapdragon SOC driven devices the HDR+ function on Google Camera was made functional on most of devices. The results in comparison to their original camera seems day and night from all points of view especially in low-light situations. As we now this seems to be Achilles heel for the Mate 9 and maybe the biggest reason that most of us lookup for other devices.
As I am no expert, I wonder if this function can be made functional on Kirin chipsets!? I want to take this opportunity to pull the alarm for the developers' and for the skillful members of this forum.
If successful most likely most of us won't look that soon for the planned new launches like: Note 8, V30, maybe even the next Mate.
You can do it yourself you know. Just shoot several raw images and combine them into one in post. Not as quick as HDR+ but it works!
Swan Princess said:
You can do it yourself you know. Just shoot several raw images and combine them into one in post. Not as quick as HDR+ but it works!
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That thing already know, but regardless of how hard you try (any app or setup) you cannot achieve results that good. Plus google camera's exposure is much better. Please check this thing yourself if you don't believe me.
does google camera even work on mate 9?
galaxy16 said:
does google camera even work on mate 9?
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Yes. But not the most recent ones. The ones for 7.0 work.
True HDR uses three different images that you then assemble in a photo editing suite of your choice. The 'HDR' function in any phone is not a true HDR and just a computer algorithm that blends three exposures. Since the Mate 9 shoots raw, most will just do it the 'real' way Would be neat to see this function in the Mate 9 for us lazy folks(yes I am lazy and yes I am a professional photographer)
Ok, so no interest in this direction, nobody keen on improving the camera.
Not what I was saying at all. If we can improve the camera and keep all the functions built into it by Huawei, I would be first in line to sign up. Hell, I bought this phone specifically because of the camera. It is a wonderful performer that I have not even begun to stretch to the limits yet, but I have only had the phone for 3 days or so. I look forward to an improved camera, but only without the loss of functionality
Here we go: Unofficial Google Camera port updated with RAW support and HDR+ customization
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Here we go: Unofficial Google Camera port updated with RAW support and HDR+ customization
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Man, won't even open. That's ok, I figured it wouldn't. Would cool if we could merge some code with our stock camera app. I like it better than Google's personally
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Man, won't even open. That's ok, I figured it wouldn't. Would cool if we could merge some code with our stock camera app. I like it better than Google's personally
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It working fine on my Mate 9.
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It working fine on my Mate 9.
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Really? Interesting. Did you do anything specific or just install and go? I'm in FromFuture B198, rooted obviously. Maybe it's not happy with that. I'll try restarting at least.
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Really? Interesting. Did you do anything specific or just install and go? I'm in FromFuture B198, rooted obviously. Maybe it's not happy with that. I'll try restarting at least.
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No, I didn't do anything special. But pay attention: there are two different APKs. One of them is for Qualcomm CPUs. Download the one in the first link. This one.
Hey guys, I've tried the other one I think and crashed the camera driver had to reboot! Lemmie try this one! Thanks kermex
Edit: Nope! I open once, then can't open again :/ Oh well... Another curious thing is that it only detects the 12MB RGB Sensor... These sensores have so much potential, hope Huawei will get into the Camera Software deeper...
So now it works, change hw level to legacy.
Comparing histograms using 2 pictures, one is stock HDR and the other is using the Google Camera HDR+, I can conclude that HDR+ isn't working, can't see any improvements regarding dynamic range. What do you guys think?
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So now it works, change hw level to legacy.
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The only thing I changed was the option to save as RAW. Nothing else.
will test it with several set-ups to see if any improvement comes from the HDR+ function.
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Comparing histograms using 2 pictures, one is stock HDR and the other is using the Google Camera HDR+, I can conclude that HDR+ isn't working, can't see any improvements regarding dynamic range. What do you guys think?
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if there isnt a "nike" mark above the HDR+ icon, the function is not working
i tried using different settings, but not work for me, stay an "A" above HDR+
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if there isnt a "nike" mark above the HDR+ icon, the function is not working
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Soooo... How did you activate it then?
Hello,
since there are problems with the camera software, I am opening this thread to discuss your experiences and software update news.
I got my S20U Exynos variant today and straight out of the box there was an OTA (430MB) available which stated that the camera experience has been improved. It got better because I have tested it before the update but the autofocus is still "jumpy" and has problems with objects that are near to the phone. Even if i turn on the setting to adapt autofocus to the selected object in the viewer, it still jumps
EDIT: I did some tests today with my own face using the main sensor and the oversharpening / skin smoothing is gone. I tested it with HDR turned off and on.
EDIT 23.03.2020:
Look at this video guys. Focus hunting is gone. Sorry, I have orange blinds and the sun was shining directly on those.
https://streamable.com/ckj6d
buddy66 said:
Hello,
since there are problems with the camera software, I am opening this thread to discuss your experiences and software update news.
I got my S20U Exynos variant today and straight out of the box there was an OTA (430MB) available which stated that the camera experience has been improved. It got better because I have tested it before the update but the autofocus is still "jumpy" and has problems with objects that are near to the phone. Even if i turn on the setting to adapt autofocus to the selected object in the viewer, it still jumps
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Did the update bring any changes to the over sharpening / skin smoothing with the man lens?
ZayaanAhyaan said:
Did the update bring any changes to the over sharpening / skin smoothing with the man lens?
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I have just tested it with my own face at work in bureau using the main sensor and the oversharpening / skin smoothing is gone. I tested it with HDR turned off and on.
Plz keep us updated on the auto focus issue
buddy66 said:
Hello,
since there are problems with the camera software, I am opening this thread to discuss your experiences and software update news.
I got my S20U Exynos variant today and straight out of the box there was an OTA (430MB) available which stated that the camera experience has been improved. It got better because I have tested it before the update but the autofocus is still "jumpy" and has problems with objects that are near to the phone. Even if i turn on the setting to adapt autofocus to the selected object in the viewer, it still jumps
EDIT: I did some tests today with my own face using the main sensor and the oversharpening / skin smoothing is gone. I tested it with HDR turned off and on.
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I'm thinking the update you got, is the same as all of us. What's the sw#.
Here are the details for the one with camera improvements
https://9to5google.com/2020/03/05/galaxy-s20-camera-update-samsung/amp/
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I'm thinking the update you got, is the same as all of us. What's the sw#.
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It is the ATBM.
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It is the ATBM.
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That's not the camera fix one. We all have that.
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That's not the camera fix one. We all have that.
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I just did a little research and it should be the ATC2, right? The one that we all have also fixed the face photos with main camera.
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I just did a little research and it should be the ATC2, right? The one that we all have also fixed the face photos with main camera.
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Yes, that one. Hopefully it comes before my return period. If not, I'm sending it back.
ATC2 is already out in South Korea. Should be in the US in a few days or about a week the most
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ATC2 is already out in South Korea. Should be in the US in a few days or about a week the most
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Lets hope so!!
As has been stated, ATBM is the one that everyone already has and it definitely did nothing for the camera.
Specific to the S20 Ultra, what about subjects' edge blurriness issue due to narrow Plane of Focus? - it can only minimally get resolved or may not at all..?
For reference, attaching pics taken from YT:
MKBHD(at 9:31) and Danny Winget(at 1:41). Marques explained it pretty well on why it might not!
Edit: S20 Ultra users with the OTA updates( "ATBR" & "ATC2") installed can check and report..
so in Germany i got a Day1 update but it seems to be only the March security patch. the update was a Little less than 500mb.
the autofocus is kinda slow in compare to the s10+
and the autofocus has some Trouble tu Focus with zoom 5+ and distance lower than 5 meters
update:
in the patchnotes
- better cam perf.
- enhanced security 4 the device
Version G99BXXU1ATBM
431.19 MB
so hopefully there will be another update to improve the cam
neigo said:
so in Germany i got a Day1 update but it seems to be only the March security patch. the update was a Little less than 500mb.
the autofocus is kinda slow in compare to the s10+
and the autofocus has some Trouble tu Focus with zoom 5+ and distance lower than 5 meters
update:
in the patchnotes
- better cam perf.
- enhanced security 4 the device
Version G99BXXU1ATBM
431.19 MB
so hopefully there will be another update to improve the cam
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I think that this update fixed the problems with the main camera when capturing photos with a recognizable face. I have tested it yesterday and it does not change the colour of my face or make it smoother.
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Specific to the S20 Ultra, what about subjects' edge blurriness issue due to narrow Plane of Focus? - it can only minimally get resolved or may not at all..?
For reference, attaching pics taken from YT:
MKBHD(at 9:31) and Danny Winget(at 1:41). Marques explained it pretty well on why it might not!
Edit: S20 Ultra users with the OTA updates( "ATBR" & "ATC2") installed can check and report..
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I have already read some feedback from gsmarena who stated: According to TizenHelp, users are reporting improved function of both autofocus and manual focusing on the Galaxy S20 Ultra.
- It is nice to hear that but we need to wait for some comparisons or a wider update push. I have also watched how Marques explained the narrow point of focus on the Ultra and he might be right but that hardware masterpiece has other sensors to help the main one with information so maybe it can be fixed with software update. I have already asked German Samsung support about when the update is going to roll out because the camera is almost useless and that I am very disappointed about it. Of course I also wrote that if it does not happen before the return window closes, they will get that hardware back, simple.
EDIT: They just answered that they do not know when the update is going to roll out. They also did not respond to me being disappointed so I asked for Tier 2 Support or Customer Relations response.
EDIT2: This was already a Tier 2 answer and they do not know on their own when it is going to arrive because it is being rolled out without properly informing all Samsung Sites.
buddy66 said:
I think that this update fixed the problems with the main camera when capturing photos with a recognizable face. I have tested it yesterday and it does not change the colour of my face or make it smoother.
I have already read some feedback from gsmarena who stated: According to TizenHelp, users are reporting improved function of both autofocus and manual focusing on the Galaxy S20 Ultra.
- It is nice to hear that but we need to wait for some comparisons or a wider update push. I have also watched how Marques explained the narrow point of focus on the Ultra and he might be right but that hardware masterpiece has other sensors to help the main one with information so maybe it can be fixed with software update. I have already asked German Samsung support about when the update is going to roll out because the camera is almost useless and that I am very disappointed about it. Of course I also wrote that if it does not happen before the return window closes, they will get that hardware back, simple.
EDIT: They just answered that they do not know when the update is going to roll out. They also did not respond to me being disappointed so I asked for Tier 2 Support or Customer Relations response.
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Autofocus/manual focusing improved, but I think let's not mix it up with the Plane of Focus limitation i.e. after the object is in focus, clicked, the pic is sharp on few places but blurry elsewhere on the same object.
As for Samsung support(customer support?) about Samsung, I will rather ask my Pets about it..
Virgo_Guy said:
Autofocus/manual focusing improved, but I think let's not mix it up with the Plane of Focus limitation i.e. after the object is in focus, clicked, the pic is sharp on few places but blurry elsewhere on the same object.
As for Samsung support(customer support?) about Samsung, I will rather ask my Pets about it..
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I know that support from such big companies is mostly not helpful but if they throw a voucher for something, then there is at least something useful you get if they cannot help. As I have written before, the other lenses could help with the Plane of Focus. Maybe Samsung will figure it out. Samsung integrated Google Duo so let Google guys improve the camera software :silly:
They're not going to be able to fix the narrow focus depth of close up images. Have you ever noticed that "fast" zoom lenses with constant aperture for cameras are invariably heavy and expensive? That's because they cram in several aspherical lens in there to be able to maintain the wide aperture. But on a camera lens, you can adjust the aperture if you want to increase the focus plane. The Ultra has a variable zoom with fixed aperture, so it's a trade off. They may be able to improve the focus hunting issues but I doubt it will ever match the speed and precision of the dpaf of their cheaper siblings.
For this reason I changed my pre-order at the last minute to the s20 plus. My subjects are typically closer range shots that are moving (my kids), so auto focus performance is important.
Virgo_Guy said:
Specific to the S20 Ultra, what about subjects' edge blurriness issue due to narrow Plane of Focus? - it can only minimally get resolved or may not at all..?
For reference, attaching pics taken from YT:
MKBHD(at 9:31) and Danny Winget(at 1:41). Marques explained it pretty well on why it might not!
Edit: S20 Ultra users with the OTA updates( "ATBR" & "ATC2") installed can check and report..
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That's an artifact of the sensor size, the only way to fix it would be artifical sharpening or taking multiple photos and combining them.
_Dennis_ said:
That's an artifact of the sensor size, the only way to fix it would be artifical sharpening or taking multiple photos and combining them.
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That!
It's a feature, not a bug.
The culprit is fixed aperture.
Thanks to Wichaya for developing this version of GCam 8.1
After trying different versions of GCam for our Nothing Phone 1, I finally found this proper GCam file!
Tried different config files for days & finally created a one that,
Clicks detailed pictures without too much HDR+ or oversharpening
Very minimal color difference between Main & Ultra wide lens
External-mic works like charm
NOTE:
No macro mode
Slow-motion doesn't work on Ultra-wide cam. Will force close
HOW TO INSTALL:
Download the Atttached GCam file, Install it
Place the Config file in Internal Storage/GCam/Configs8/ Folder
Open GCam, give the required permissions, tap the blank space to your right of shutter icon
On the pop-up, choose "Nalann's Nothing.xml", Click on update & Restart the Camera
There is already gcam thread for this phone.
Gcam for Nothing phone 1
Dear anyone, please assist me to get Gcam for nothing phone 1. Stable one
forum.xda-developers.com
is there any benefit to using Gcam though? Every phone I've tried it on just makes it laggy, with noticable delay between pressing the shutter and capturing the actual photo
UserNamist said:
is there any benefit to using Gcam though? Every phone I've tried it on just makes it laggy, with noticable delay between pressing the shutter and capturing the actual photo
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It depends on who you ask. I personally love using GCam for the colour tones and styles it produces. I personally own a lot of phones including some from the actual Pixel lineup, and the consistency GCam makes on different devices Is just awesome.
UserNamist said:
is there any benefit to using Gcam though? Every phone I've tried it on just makes it laggy, with noticable delay between pressing the shutter and capturing the actual photo
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I have been using GCam on most of my androids, midrange to premium ones. The lag or delay you noticed may be due to wrong version of Gcam(not optimized for the phone's processor) or an incapable processor that was unable to handle those HDR+ with ZSL(Zero shutter Lag) or atmost minimal lag. It may be even due to an wrong config file.
Personally Gcam provides better details, specially for selfies. Also the color tone, skin tones will be more realistic And few additional options like external mic support, tweaking the image processing as per your likability through advanced settings etc. I was annoyed as i was uanble to use external mic on default camera app of nothing. And finally this GCam version of wichaya helped me out in Fixing this. Im using wireless mic to record videos and it works like charm
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van valami haszna a Gcam használatának? Minden telefon, amelyen kipróbáltam, csak késlelteti, észrevehető késéssel az exponáló lenyomása és a tényleges fénykép elkészítése között.
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Yes! Now the 1.1.4 farkkk up the UW(Oversaturated,oversharpened noise)
Nalkal!Thank you!! The uw and regular camera color profile almost perfect good job mate!
Hello, does anyone knows how to enable higher framerate slow-motion ? Apparently the camera is able to do higher than 120 fps but it crashes the app
Hi, is it possible to use slow motion with more than 120fps ? Because the sensor is capable of. Thanks.
BAd news at this point. It may change, Nothing has gotten back to me and they said that they are going to close my request(case) without any further help from them in regards to this issue.
I will sell my Nothing phone and replace it with another phone since their customer service has taken a complete downfall.
Later on today or tomorrow I should have an update about this.
rogerrulez said:
BAd news at this point. It may change, Nothing has gotten back to me and they said that they are going to close my request(case) without any further help from them in regards to this issue.
I will sell my Nothing phone and replace it with another phone since their customer service has taken a complete downfall.
Later on today or tomorrow I should have an update about this.
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UPDATE: Nothing has not followed up with my request. As a consumer i take this as a company who does not back their commitment, their desire to provide customer service as they said they would.
Therefore, I have decided to get rid of my Nothing phone, return back to OnePlus and take it as it is. They are NOT a good company to deal with since they do not stand by their products. Sad as it is, but it is.
Peace
rogerrulez said:
UPDATE: Nothing has not followed up with my request. As a consumer i take this as a company who does not back their commitment, their desire to provide customer service as they said they would.
Therefore, I have decided to get rid of my Nothing phone, return back to OnePlus and take it as it is. They are NOT a good company to deal with since they do not stand by their products. Sad as it is, but it is.
Peace
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haha , I just rid off OnePlus Nord 2 for the worst support , lack of updates , instable OS and so on . Nothing Phone is upper class compare to OnePlus
muppetz said:
haha , I just rid off OnePlus Nord 2 for the worst support , lack of updates , instable OS and so on . Nothing Phone is upper class compare to OnePlus
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I believed that as well, until this support request.