Bad 3d performance on lolipop (Exynos) - Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
Short story: On 5.0.1 (bob4 or boc3) the 3d score in antutu is about 7k. On 4.4.4 I get over 15k. Even in 3dmark I get 20k on 4.4.4 and 11k on lolipop.
In some games (like asphalt 8) I see a struttering (But I can't see a difference between lolipop and kitkat performance).
I heard that is a gpu bug that lock the freq. to 350mhz, it's true?

would also like to know about this as i am planning to get the exynos version too

cap-shoot said:
Hello,
Short story: On 5.0.1 (bob4 or boc3) the 3d score in antutu is about 7k. On 4.4.4 I get over 15k. Even in 3dmark I get 20k on 4.4.4 and 11k on lolipop.
In some games (like asphalt 8) I see a struttering (But I can't see a difference between lolipop and kitkat performance).
I heard that is a gpu bug that lock the freq. to 350mhz, it's true?
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It is a known bug in current lollipop build (bob4, boc3), for some reason phone is stuck in power saving mode. Use kitkat for better performance, lollipop for better visual experience.

Still I don't understand why this issue is random??? I asked a few users on another forum and they don't have this bug.

Had the same issues here:
1st lollipop antutu scores - 49k (overall), 16k (3d)
2nd and ahead lollipop antutu scores - 39-42k (overall), 7.5k (3d).
I have no idea why it changed.
I have the exynos variant.

I'm running the new boc5 lollipop and getting 51,432 on antutu

cap-shoot said:
Still I don't understand why this issue is random??? I asked a few users on another forum and they don't have this bug.
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It's not really a bug, but a more conservative throttle-threshold. You can easily test this out by putting your phone somewhere cold for about 5 minutes and then running the benchmarks. The problem is though that in BOB4/BOC3 the throttle level was just way too conservative which caused games like asphalt 8 not to run at speeds greater than 350Mhz. This was solved in BOC5, so just update if you want KItKat level performance.

Toss3 said:
It's not really a bug, but a more conservative throttle-threshold. You can easily test this out by putting your phone somewhere cold for about 5 minutes and then running the benchmarks. The problem is though that in BOB4/BOC3 the throttle level was just way too conservative which caused games like asphalt 8 not to run at speeds greater than 350Mhz. This was solved in BOC5, so just update if you want KItKat level performance.
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I have no boc5 for my country. Is this a custom rom or official update?

erlyneto said:
I have no boc5 for my country. Is this a custom rom or official update?
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BOC5 is an official rom yes. You can usually find the official ROMs in the general section.

And you could give me a link to some as a good custom rom, or officially, because I tried one BOC5, but still had a problem with efficiency.

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LG G2 GPU benchmarks

I was wondering why the LG G2 scored lower in pretty much every single GPU benchmark compared to other phones with the Snapdragon 800? Is it something related to the GRAM?
crzykiller said:
I was wondering why the LG G2 scored lower in pretty much every single GPU benchmark compared to other phones with the Snapdragon 800? Is it something related to the GRAM?
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I believe LG has made less memory available to the GPU than others, i.e. Sony. There maybe a mod at some point to change the balance, as this is probably a kernel thing.
since we are on the subject of kernels... if anyone cares to chime in... or point me to the right direction..
I did some experimenting today with stock and woots kernel..diff govs, temps, settings, etc..
The best speeds out of antutu I could get was 28500 with woots kernel... But yet I see everywhere with these phones getting 30-35000+...
What am I missing?
I ended up using interactive for my gov, bumped up the temps to 90/100 just to get 28000+
Using stock kernel and woots kernel using stock settings and on multiple roms I could never break 27500+ mostly got in the 22000 range.. I would also wait 15 minutes per benchmark to ensure my phone was cool...
Using carbon rom + woots kernel with interactive goc and temps bumped 90/100 can I only get 28000+...
kinda feeling bamboozeled! Did antutu put out an update that makes these achieve less benchmark numbers?
ars0n said:
since we are on the subject of kernels... if anyone cares to chime in... or point me to the right direction..
I did some experimenting today with stock and woots kernel..diff govs, temps, settings, etc..
The best speeds out of antutu I could get was 28500 with woots kernel... But yet I see everywhere with these phones getting 30-35000+...
What am I missing?
I ended up using interactive for my gov, bumped up the temps to 90/100 just to get 28000+
Using stock kernel and woots kernel using stock settings and on multiple roms I could never break 27500+ mostly got in the 22000 range.. I would also wait 15 minutes per benchmark to ensure my phone was cool...
Using carbon rom + woots kernel with interactive goc and temps bumped 90/100 can I only get 28000+...
kinda feeling bamboozeled! Did antutu put out an update that makes these achieve less benchmark numbers?
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Huh are you running CM? if so that can be your problem... on my stock Telus G2 i get 35-36k antutu constantly. Any LG ROM gets me between 35-37k. With Woots kernel and stock frequencies for CPU and GPU (GPU overclock reduces benchmarks quite a lot) i still get between 35-37k for my phone
edit: just saw you are running carbon ROM... that is most likely the problem... I used another CM based ROM and could not go past 30k
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Huh are you running CM? if so that can be your problem... on my stock Telus G2 i get 35-36k antutu constantly. Any LG ROM gets me between 35-37k. With Woots kernel and stock frequencies for CPU and GPU (GPU overclock reduces benchmarks quite a lot) i still get between 35-37k for my phone
edit: just saw you are running carbon ROM... that is most likely the problem... I used another CM based ROM and could not go past 30k
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any stock lg roms you recommend, or do you mean flashing back to stock stock?
and thank you for the reply ! =D
ars0n said:
any stock lg roms you recommend, or do you mean flashing back to stock stock?
and thank you for the reply ! =D
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I'm running my stock stock rom :laugh: I've rooted it and removed a lot of bloatware. All other custom ROMs are similar IMHO. Same performance but with different themes and stuff.
crzykiller said:
I'm running my stock stock rom :laugh: I've rooted it and removed a lot of bloatware. All other custom ROMs are similar IMHO. Same performance but with different themes and stuff.
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welll shiiiiieeeeeet. Will have to try a couple stock roms out and see whats up.. thank you again =D saved me lotsa hair pulling =]
ars0n said:
welll shiiiiieeeeeet. Will have to try a couple stock roms out and see whats up.. thank you again =D saved me lotsa hair pulling =]
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Haha no problem here's one of my scores i just got on Antutu
So my girlfriend just got a brand new g2 verizon, put antutu on it first thing, no roms, no updates, nodda.. got a 33,000 score. I just scored 30500 on my carbon rom with woots b2 verizon kernel intelliplug on, 90/100 temps, interactive gov, 1500 read ahead,
Seems like we are getting closer!!
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Was just reading up that antutu cant be trusted for the g2 for benchmarking.
Going to redo them with 3dmark on my gfs new stock phone and my rom'd phone and post up shortly..
It just means stock is the best
crzykiller said:
Haha no problem here's one of my scores i just got on Antutu
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why im getting low benchmark in the stock G2 rom 33000 only then 31000 now 22000 .. is there a way to overclock ?
and amazing spider-man 2 lag on my G2
Yassin1569 said:
why im getting low benchmark in the stock G2 rom 33000 only then 31000 now 22000 .. is there a way to overclock ?
and amazing spider-man 2 lag on my G2
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I guess you are running Kitkat on your G2 right?
Idk what they did with this Stupid KK Update because it made the Phone Significantly slower
I got over 36k Antutu Score on the unmodded Out of the Box JB 4.2.2 rom and the Phone was Extremely Snappy and everything ran Smooth
Now since i use KK Roms (Stock,Modded ones etc) I get Lags nearly Everywhere
Even with a OC to 2,8ghz only up to 29k Antutu scores Blablabla
UI Redraws are also present..
The most annoying thing is that i get lags especially in games (Real Racing 3 and even some 2D games)
My D802 doesnt gets Hot or something but it really makes me Mad
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I dont blame the Great Dev's i am sure LG messed up something
Skolotaie said:
I guess you are running Kitkat on your G2 right?
Idk what they did with this Stupid KK Update because it made the Phone Significantly slower
I got over 36k Antutu Score on the unmodded Out of the Box JB 4.2.2 rom and the Phone was Extremely Snappy and everything ran Smooth
Now since i use KK Roms (Stock,Modded ones etc) I get Lags nearly Everywhere
Even with a OC to 2,8ghz only up to 29k Antutu scores Blablabla
UI Redraws are also present..
The most annoying thing is that i get lags especially in games (Real Racing 3 and even some 2D games)
My D802 doesnt gets Hot or something but it really makes me Mad
EDIT:
I dont blame the Great Dev's i am sure LG messed up something
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yes i'm running kitkat ... and now im using cloudyflex rom ... the camera is cool now .. slow motion , magic foucs and 2160p video
LG g2 D802 android 4.4.2
LG g2 D802 android 4.4.2
Hi guy,
My device is LG G2 Korean F320 which is correctly running on RR 5.8.3 ( Nougat 7.1.2 ) and my phone scores 50904 on Benchmark. What do you guy think about it?

[Q] NEXUS 4 KitKat official release benchmark ?

Hello all!
Strange "issue" - i don't know if this is an issue but yeah - i installed the KITKAT release that appeared about 20 hrs ago on the google website...
Now - Antutu score has dropped a lot!
Before 4.4, i hat stock 4.3 - 19000 score and last AOKP with franco kernel - 20600
NOW - with 4.4 it has dropped to 14639 !!!!!!!
kreindler said:
Hello all!
Strange "issue" - i don't know if this is an issue but yeah - i installed the KITKAT release that appeared about 20 hrs ago on the google website...
Now - Antutu score has dropped a lot!
Before 4.4, i hat stock 4.3 - 19000 score and last AOKP with franco kernel - 20600
NOW - with 4.4 it has dropped to 14639 !!!!!!!
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Wait antutu gets compatible with 4.4 kikat
Karo. said:
Wait antutu gets compatible with 4.4 kikat
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already is, while i was on n5 port i got 16k witch is standard for stock, that 14k just confirm what i said in other threads, 4.4 is more laggy than 4.3(not laggy like it lags a lot, but sometimes u see some little lags where u dont see on 4.3)
1. Antutu has changed a lot since even 4.3.. Separate dalvik tests etc.. Scores may have changed
2. Google phone software always comes unoptimised.. No krait/bionic optimisation and also with dog slow dalvik/Java libraries.
Kernel and rom devs should have normal performance resumed shortly.. Hopefully.
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1. Antutu has changed a lot since even 4.3.. Separate dalvik tests etc.. Scores may have changed
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Not a valid argument - i've done all the tests today and yesterday- same antutu version
Furthermore- has anyone made similar before/after tests with other benchmark programs??
I dont know if it's placebo, but 4.4 seems at least that buttery as 4.3 to me....
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Don't go on what antutu says it's the worsts bench mark use geek bench for CPU and gfx bench for gpu
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THEBANDIT420 said:
Don't go on what antutu says it's the worsts bench mark use geek bench for CPU and gfx bench for gpu
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium
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now why do you say that antutu is the worst? in reality, they are both just as bad. yes, geek bench is just as inaccurate.
So, do these results indicate any sort of actual real life increase or decrease in performance?
I apologise just would like for someone to clear this up for me.
No. It is well known that bench marks mean nothing. They are easily fooled into giving higher scores with laggier performance
Wayne Tech Nexus
yes and no.... benchmarks are irrelevant to a certain point. But overall - they offer a view on the performance - an s2 will get a lower score as an s3, or a nexus 4.. and that with cheating on benchmarks, i think the only one that was found was samsung... one more reason 4 me to hate them and their recycled plastic products
kreindler said:
yes and no.... benchmarks are irrelevant to a certain point. But overall - they offer a view on the performance - an s2 will get a lower score as an s3, or a nexus 4.. and that with cheating on benchmarks, i think the only one that was found was samsung... one more reason 4 me to hate them and their recycled plastic products
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You should be aware that the phone underclocks when reaches a certain temperature. Keep that in mind and re-do your benchmark. Put your phone somewhere cold, like granite, wait some minutes and do your benchmark.
Me too its just 15k in antutu.. And im getting some lags in games like FIFA 14 and a good battery drain it drains 7-10% in one night without use.
opssemnik said:
already is, while i was on n5 port i got 16k witch is standard for stock, that 14k just confirm what i said in other threads, 4.4 is more laggy than 4.3(not laggy like it lags a lot, but sometimes u see some little lags where u dont see on 4.3)
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Agreed! Felt the same when i started using.
Any issues yet?
The only issue im having is that when i increase the volume while playing music and try to slide the volume bar on the screen, it doesnt work.
EDIT: Runnin butter smooth after 2 restarts since the rom installation.
Just got 17,915 Antutu on stock 4.4, tested in performance mode. Seems normal to me; bring on the bionic and dalvik enhancements.
kreindler said:
Hello all!
Strange "issue" - i don't know if this is an issue but yeah - i installed the KITKAT release that appeared about 20 hrs ago on the google website...
Now - Antutu score has dropped a lot!
Before 4.4, i hat stock 4.3 - 19000 score and last AOKP with franco kernel - 20600
NOW - with 4.4 it has dropped to 14639 !!!!!!!
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i tried antutu and got over 15k i will try again with ART
Flashed purity now... Will do antutu benchmark tomorrow! Fingers crossed)
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kreindler said:
Hello all!
Strange "issue" - i don't know if this is an issue but yeah - i installed the KITKAT release that appeared about 20 hrs ago on the google website...
Now - Antutu score has dropped a lot!
Before 4.4, i hat stock 4.3 - 19000 score and last AOKP with franco kernel - 20600
NOW - with 4.4 it has dropped to 14639 !!!!!!!
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Although i am new to nexus 4, ye i upgraded from nexus one just 1 week ago (nexus one lasted almost 4 years, what a dog !) i do have to say the kitkat update has made a significant negative impact in 3d games/applications.
The performance drop is obvious on say, minion rush. As i am a gamer in PCs for many years, since 1986, and a tv control news expert , i can easily feel the frames being near 25 and i can even tell if frames are down to 20 10 or 5.
I am pretty certain the frames in Minion Rush for example (heavier game i have atm in n4) have dropped at least 30% and i am pretty sure they were not way above 25 before kitkat. I estimate 10-15 fps max

Scores of our Shield Tablet in Antutu

Hello there!
I've got an idea to make a post-poll to see what scores Antutu Benchmark is giving us in the Shield Tablet on any ROM, like CM11, Stock, etc.
Mine (WiFi-only model) got 53.844 points, with the latest stock firmware (1.2.1) and Antutu Benchmark 5.1.. Also, it was set to Max. Performance mode..
I also made a video, you can check it here:
What are your best scores with the Shield Tablet?
(And sorry for my bad english lol)
Of course, I didn't mentioned it, but It'd be nice to compare scores between roms, so, if you're using a different rom than stock, like CM11, please post it, so that we know which rom has best performance
56674
Settings > SHIELD Power Control > Processor Mode: Using Max Performance
Stock 2.2.1 update, no root.
hapihakr said:
Settings > SHIELD Power Control > Processor Mode: Using Max Performance
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In mine with 2.2.1 rooted I got the other days around 57 thousand and something, what a pity I didn't take any screenshot :silly:
(Also on max performance)
linuxct said:
Of course, I didn't mentioned it, but It'd be nice to compare scores between roms, so, if you're using a different rom than stock, like CM11, please post it, so that we know which rom has best performance
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The ROM that has the highest Antutu score, and the ROM that has the best performance could (most probably) be different. It's been proven time and time again that benchmarks mean little when it comes to real world performance.
stock and shaky kernel
Before 62000 couples times stock, shaky kernel, booster plus and battery saver,busyboox ,CPU tuner and shield in my power mode full
Right now 59326 with stock,shaky,booster plus,busybox,device control,CPU tuner,auto kill apk and shield in my power mode.

			
				
57,340
always one guy that just has to remind us that benchmarks don't necessarily mean your going to have a good experience across the board, yeah bud, we know, this is XDA, it's fun to benchmark, get over it. [rant off]
anywho, I'm stock, unlocked, and rooted with titanium to freeze apps and CWM for backups.
got a 56,593 & 57,340 Whoot!
Here's a recent one on mine. I want to hit 65k but that will likely require a GPU OC among other optimizations.
Pilz said:
Here's a recent one on mine. I want to hit 65k but that will likely require a GPU OC among other optimizations.
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How so much, custom kernel & overclock?????
cyraxx84 said:
How so much, custom kernel & overclock?????
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I OC'd my CPU to 2.5ghz and that's was about it. I'm running BitOsessions kernel on my stock Shield Tablet. I did another one a while ago that hit 63k but I can't find my screenshot so I'm working to get past that again.
Here's another one I did when I dropped the resolution from 1080 FHD to 720 HD.
Accidental double post... Delete
90009 on Stock Rooted MM ROM...
I got 84071 on mine
Edit: re-did the test after installing the latest update and got 84767
About 91500 on latest antutu 6.01. Stock 6.0 rooted and debloated.
Beat Y'all If you can
Screenshot Or it Didn't Happened
Nvidia Stock LP v5.1.1, rooted, no "performance related" modifications to speak of.
highest: 82517
average: 81842 (based on reboot then running Antutu v6.0.1 6 times in a row, scores increased on each run until the sixth)
FoxyDrew said:
The ROM that has the highest Antutu score, and the ROM that has the best performance could (most probably) be different. It's been proven time and time again that benchmarks mean little when it comes to real world performance.
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I completely disagree with this without meaning to be rude because every person suffers from confirmation bias and "self benchmarking" is one area where it effects everybody greatly.
To the extent that people can have very different experiences on exactly the same hardware and software as a matter of routine - and no one can know that it has ocurred since it's automatic.
Benchmarks are the in fact the only way to measure objectively IME and opinion.
This is certainly not to say that anyone has a better or worse experience though as you point out, that i agree with.
Antutu Benchmark
No root/no debloat - MM 6.0.1

[Q] Note 4 lags after lollipop update.

My N910H lags in games after I updated it to stock 5.0.1.
I play Modern Combat 5 it was smooth in Kitkat now it's really laggy.
I got 50k in Antutu with Kitkat, now it's 38-42k.
Can someone help me? I'm a heavy gamer and I want the best performance in games. Or should I downgrade to Kitkat?
Thanks for your help!
Things I already tried:
- Factory reset (2x)
- Power saving mode is OFF.
- Turning off bluetooth, sync, location, and nfc.
- Reinstall Antutu.
- Reinstall MC5
My device is unrooted and Knox warranty status is 0x0.
Benchmarks don't really mean anything for Christ sake....if your games don't play smoothly then just downgrade to kitkat and wait for Samsung to hopefully updated our devices with a newer and better working version of Lollipop.
I had the g3 and boy did they screw the pooch on that one! The device got so slow and battery life was considerably worse! This was the 32/3gb version... Hopefully samsung won't mess this up big time.
All other scores looks fine.. Except for 3d graphics.
Man i have the same problem here it seems that the phone is always in power saving mode and the gpu is limited to 350 mhz instead of 700 mhz. Also the cpu runs at 1.3 ghz instead of 1.9 for the big cores thats why it has low score in antutu hope somebody figures out a solution and also this is a bug in this update
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I have the same problem guys with my n910f. It starts after lollipop update. Did you try kitkat, it works now as it should?
TheW7U11 said:
I have the same problem guys with my n910f. It starts after lollipop update. Did you try kitkat, it works now as it should?
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Try doing a factory reset if you have't done it already.
It didnt work.
i updated my N910H too and i confirm the lag too, perhaps i will downgrade, will give it more time.

Note 4 snapdragon Getting Hot

Hi guys,
I have purchased Note 4 recently and it seems to be heating in minimal tasks also like surfing the internet. i have flashed KITKAT, LOLLIPOP(default) and MARSHMALLOW but in all these firmwares the problem seemed to be consistent. Earlier i used snapdragon phone which was clocked at 2.3 GHZ and used to heat @ heavy games like No Limits, with recording on but this one is heating in angry birds itself. Though no lags are observed. I have not tried the Marshmallow version latest yet but some body told that latest update fixed heating issue. The root problem i see is its Processor clocked @ 2.7 GHZ, i mean this much we see in PC. I dont understand why they have gone so far. Now Samsung kernel must be clocked such way that on demand it bumps the frequency to max. This max i want to limit to 2 GHZ but without knocking down KNOX warranty. If some one has latest updated Marshmallow release and can confirm that it is indeed not heating please comment or tell me the solution to this problem, i really like this phone but hate when it heats. I am ok with slight lagging due to underclocking. i am willing to flash kernels with lower max frequency via ODIN. No custom recovery intended. Also i dont want to loose on warranty.
Thanks and Regards,
Really looking forward to solution
Ankit
xdatechie said:
Hi guys,
I have purchased Note 4 recently and it seems to be heating in minimal tasks also like surfing the internet. i have flashed KITKAT, LOLLIPOP(default) and MARSHMALLOW but in all these firmwares the problem seemed to be consistent. Earlier i used snapdragon phone which was clocked at 2.3 GHZ and used to heat @ heavy games like No Limits, with recording on but this one is heating in angry birds itself. Though no lags are observed. I have not tried the Marshmallow version latest yet but some body told that latest update fixed heating issue. The root problem i see is its Processor clocked @ 2.7 GHZ, i mean this much we see in PC. I dont understand why they have gone so far. Now Samsung kernel must be clocked such way that on demand it bumps the frequency to max. This max i want to limit to 2 GHZ but without knocking down KNOX warranty. If some one has latest updated Marshmallow release and can confirm that it is indeed not heating please comment or tell me the solution to this problem, i really like this phone but hate when it heats. I am ok with slight lagging due to underclocking. i am willing to flash kernels with lower max frequency via ODIN. No custom recovery intended. Also i dont want to loose on warranty.
Thanks and Regards,
Really looking forward to solution
Ankit
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well i had the same problem in LP but with MM the heating problem is gone. You might have a defective device.
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Amar.B said:
well i had the same problem in LP but with MM the heating problem is gone. You might have a defective device.
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Thanks , but i have got replacements and all of them heated in marshmallow, but i didnot try thr latest patch of marshmallow. So according to you in Marshmallow its not heating at all right?
xdatechie said:
Thanks , but i have got replacements and all of them heated in marshmallow, but i didnot try thr latest patch of marshmallow. So according to you in Marshmallow its not heating at all right?
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Yeah don't worry, mine has been replaced too actually twice in one week
i asked around and i found out that the heating issue is normal. just flash the latest august security patch
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