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Vodafone DE updated firmware

Noticed on Vodafone DE's website they have an updated firmware download
http://www.vodafone.de/business/support_download/59345_90608.html
This is for version 1.20.162.3
I notice that my device is running 1.20.161.5
Other than (I assume) providing German language support, anyone else know what is this firmware update is worth using for a UK device ?
Steven

There's already a thread on the upgrading forum about the german voda rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279038

[Q] Newbie question

Hello, this is my first post and I am glad I joined this brilliant community with so many helpful people and resources.
I am getting a Blackstone in the next 24 hours from Orange UK and wanted to ask if the Orange device has the same programs and versions and no difference at all as the retail version (sim free, WWE, etc) that can be bought from other vendors.
And also wanted to know if installing the ROMs that are designed here would do the debranding of the Orange UK device. If the ROMs don't do that - and the Orange HD is different to the retail version - what should I do to debrand my new HD to make it similar to the retail ones? ( I know that flashing them will not unlock the sim).
Thanks.

ezsurfer said:
Hello, this is my first post and I am glad I joined this brilliant community with so many helpful people and resources.
I am getting a Blackstone in the next 24 hours from Orange UK and wanted to ask if the Orange device has the same programs and versions and no difference at all as the retail version (sim free, WWE, etc) that can be bought from other vendors.
And also wanted to know if installing the ROMs that are designed here would do the debranding of the Orange UK device. If the ROMs don't do that - and the Orange HD is different to the retail version - what should I do to debrand my new HD to make it similar to the retail ones? ( I know that flashing them will not unlock the sim).
Thanks.
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Welcome to XDA-Devs. I am not in the UK so I can't speak specifically about the the Orange HD device. I purchased mine from a retailer which was the HTC Touch HD with no mobile branding. This phone is not sim-locked to a mobile carrier so I can use whichever GSM carrier I so choose.
Typically phones "branded" for companies are cheaper and at a reduced price. Once you flash a ROM however all the Orange software, etc. will be gone. You can flash a shipped WWE HTC ROM version if you like and get all same software that I had on my phone.
Just make sure you have HardSPL on you device before you flash.
I highly recommend you try one of the cooked ROMs on XDA after you play around with your device for a while.

Thanks for your reply.
I was asking about the differences between Orange branded ones and SIM free ones because usually Orange have made changes in the previous original devices the sell and they become very sluggish and take off some factory settings and features.
I read about installing or having the HardSPL and understand that I need to use it and then install or flash a ROM. Just will need some time or advice on which ones to choose to have or at least a preview or some pics of how the device works or looks after each of them.

hello:
welcome to Xda.
i am in US and i got my phone from UK. it is unlocked, unbranded version. it came with europe version stock rom. there is no special software in it. i also tried orange uk version rom. it has exactly same software in europe wwe rom.
so you dont have to worry about the rom. they are the same.

Thanks for the replies.
I just got the HTD HD from Orange UK today and it seems with this model they didn't make any changes to the original OS - at least it looks like it.
I have been reading about SIM unlocking for the HD in another thread and wanted to ask if it is ok to SIM unlock and if it will remain unlocked after using HSPL and ROMs created here. Or should I go for the HardSPL and ROMs first and leave the SIM unlock for last? Also wanted to know which HardSPL and ROMs are the most used or prefered by most people in the forums so I could know which one to go for.

Orange HD
i also have the orange - not so bright - Touch Hd
there is no network branding or software on the handset - luckily for us

ezsurfer said:
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I have been reading about SIM unlocking for the HD in another thread and wanted to ask if it is ok to SIM unlock and if it will remain unlocked after using HSPL and ROMs created here.
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Once you SIM unlock it will stay that way. It can't be reversed by flashing another ROM.

Can't install Rom Update

The HTC website says that Rom update is not suitable for my phone.....Why Not? I am currently on ROM 1.43.110.2 UK based phone on the T-Mobile Network. I thought that the latest ROM was 1.48 or am I wrong?

proably because it is branded by t-mobile, it is only suitable for unbranded phones, you will need to use the goldcard method if you wish to update your rom

Richy99 said:
proably because it is branded by t-mobile, it is only suitable for unbranded phones, you will need to use the goldcard method if you wish to update your rom
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Could you explain the Goldcard method to me and why wouldn't branded phones want latest ROM updates?

branded phones need updates from the carrier.
unbranded (as they have no carrier afflilation) gets theirs direct from the manufacturer (HTC)

This link should help give you more of an idea what you will need to do. Haven't done it myself. Still waiting for the new ROM to be made official on the UK HTC site(well waiting and learning only had it 4 days). They haven't given it to us yet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591314

debranded rom

some people on ebay are selling debranded tg01s i contacted one and he said that he has the factory tg01 rom but was unwilling to sell it but would install it on my phone if i sent it to him with £20, anyway my question is
1. does anyone here have the factory rom to completly debrand from orange uk?
2. if no to above do you think it would be easier to decrypt the debranded rom compared to the orange branded one as it may be worth getting it to dump here?

Its either a sim free model or he has just removed the bootup and shutdown screens. Personally If a debranded rom was out there it would already have been posted so save you £20 (and your phone)

thats what i was thinking o well

useyourfist said:
thats what i was thinking o well
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i contacted a guy from ebay about debranding & he said he had the original toshiba firmware that removed carrier branding....
not sure if this sounds plausable......

maybee its a tosh employee making a bit of extra cash i would
and that would explain why not willing to sell me the cab
or as BaconTrousers said just someone removing bootscreen ect.
i am tempted.

The only one debranded rom is Italian so it's possible that he sells TG01 with translation package installed...

nico101 said:
The only one debranded rom is Italian so it's possible that he sells TG01 with translation package installed...
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Italian ROM is debranded and it's better, i read about some voice problem in orange ROM.
But I see WM 6.6 in youtube running in our device. There is a system to install a new ROM in TG01 but we don't know.

can't someone use the italian debranded rom and create a custom rom from that? maybe even translate it into english, would be great even a custom rom in italian would be good

I've used leaked O2 then official Orange UK now I'm using leaked Orange UK (little bit stripped down from obsolette apps) had also Italian rom but i'ts based on 21840 build (leaked roms are 21856) so there is annoying bug in Start menu that closes after opening any settings ...
I've made translation for Italian German and UK rom to Polish so i think it's possible to translate Italian rom to english but I don't have time and motivation to do this...

Hi, I'm from RO, speaking a little bit of italian, owning an orange locked tg01(one of the first devices in RO), so I've upgraded(finally, one week ago) to wm6.5 italian ROM,by curiosity, encountering no problems so far:good signal on phone calling in/out, installed srs wow v.4(again curiosity, personally no need of it), 3 gps apps(iGO8.3.2, garmin&Automapa6.1.0.876+gpsgate2.6), awesome start=everything working fine, no random soft reset, waiting for a (god[xda]blessed) custom ROM..
edit:Nico, maybe we'll find, somehow, a motivation for you: let us know!!!

Generally you'll need rgu files from dumped UK rom all files containing 409 (mui, dat html txt bin) cpp_englocalization.dll (I think it's the right file name or something like this) DotNetLocalization.dll(to translate powersave and some other settings) thread_style.css, wc_style.css, wmStyles.css(translation of sms app) and WiFiSettingsLocalizationRes.dll i think that's all sorry for little bit chaotic description but I really don't have much time to write this.

nico101 said:
I've used leaked O2 then official Orange UK now I'm using leaked Orange UK (little bit stripped down from obsolette apps)
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What is this 'Leaked Orange ROM' of which you speak?
Could it be leaked to the forums, so we can play?

useyourfist said:
some people on ebay are selling debranded tg01s i contacted one and he said that he has the factory tg01 rom but was unwilling to sell it but would install it on my phone if i sent it to him with £20, anyway my question is
1. does anyone here have the factory rom to completly debrand from orange uk?
2. if no to above do you think it would be easier to decrypt the debranded rom compared to the orange branded one as it may be worth getting it to dump here?
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I'm using an Orange TG01 and the only branding I can see is that the windows boot screen is an orange background. I don't see any software or links to tell me it's an orange branded rom.
I bought it off ebay, and was told it was using a factory unlocked rom.
could this be the ROM you're talking about? What should I look for?

Dodge0069,
Was it from an eBay user called i_sell_fones ? Here is his current listing.
Apart from being de-branded, it would have come with Spb MObile Shell pre-installed.
If so then that's the one. I don't personally know if a dump of the ROM would tell the experts anything, but be useful to at least know if this additional piece of material could potentially be available !

No, the name was jeera_blade
Seller
Zahid Iqbal
[email protected]
Item# 270508745674

Dodge0069 said:
No, the name was jeera_blade
Seller
Zahid Iqbal
[email protected]
Item# 270508745674
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Guys there aren't debrandet rom. All rom is the same, Orange UK and France, Vomistar Spain, Italian don know and some more all of them branded. May be unlocked but branded. On the market you can't buy debranded because Toshiba still don't sell it.

Italian ROM is brand-free:as far as I've noticed in 2 weeks of using it.

bojan6 said:
Guys there aren't debrandet rom. All rom is the same, Orange UK and France, Vomistar Spain, Italian don know and some more all of them branded. May be unlocked but branded. On the market you can't buy debranded because Toshiba still don't sell it.
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Where do i see branding other than on the back of the phone, and the orange colored windows startup screen?

has it got any orange apps on it?
TV player or orange plus or orange maps?
if these apps aren't available from your start menu then they're aren't installed, BUT they may still have thier .cab files in the root of windows?
i partially debranded my phone by hard reset then before 1st set up, i deleted the install paths to cab files i didn't want to use in the registry... i wasn't brave enough with my deleting as there is still some orange stuff there !!!
cheers

There are no orange cabs
I have no installed orange apps
Also, i've hard reset, and it SPB Shell 3.0.1 is installed in the ROM.

Confused, What's the latest stock rom?

Currently I have the following installed:
ROM: 1.66.405.2 (76641) WWE
Radio: 2.06.51.07
UK unbranded HD2 on o2
Now, a while back I'm sure the HTC support section had a new upgrade. I downloaded it but never bothered to install.
That file is called:
_HTC HD2_RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.66.405.2_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship.exe
Which seems to be the same as what I've got! Yet when i run that file it says:
PDA Phone ROM Update Utility 3.27.4.3 (is the 3.27 the rom or the version of the update utility?)
Additionaly the date on the HTC site of the update is 2010-01-25 which can't be the one i got before. I'm sure there is a 3. something rom.. ??? Have they taken the newer one down opr something?
Someone please, sort my brain out!! thanks!

3.14 is latest
go back to htc.com and look again at rom updates (support - pick hd2 in phone list - downloads)
The first one listed is an o2 specific update, but that wont work on yours because as you mentioned you actually have an unbranded hd2 (because o2 couldnt buy them and brand them quick enough for demand early 2010)

samsamuel said:
3.14 is latest
go back to htc.com and look again at rom updates (support - pick hd2 in phone list - downloads)
The first one listed is an o2 specific update, but that wont work on yours because as you mentioned you actually have an unbranded hd2 (because o2 couldnt buy them and brand them quick enough for demand early 2010)
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The only ROM upgrade listed for HTC HD2 is:
ROM Upgrade for HTC HD2
Release Date: 2010-01-25 Category: ROM Upgrade
An updated ROM is now available for HTC HD2 users to download. As always, HTC is committed to providing customers with the best possible mobile experience.
Installation Instructions:
Note: This update is not intended for use on T-Mobile(US) HTC HD2, and doing so may have undesired side effects.
ROM Version:
Norway:1.66.409.1, Spain :1.66.412.1, Denmark:1.66.403.1, France :1.66.406.1,
Sweden:1.66.413.2, Italy:1.66.408.1, WWE:1.66.405.2, France Bouygues: 1.66.483.0
Can't see any o2 update that you mentioned (not that i need it, like you say) but 3.14 is not there??
EDIT: FOUND IT NOW, DOESN'T SHOW UP ON THE WORLDWIDE SITE.. HAD TO SELECT EUROPE

u want seventh one down on this page
http://www.htc.com/uk/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=297&act=sd&cat=all
dated 2010-10-11

samsamuel said:
u want seventh one down on this page
http://www.htc.com/uk/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=297&act=sd&cat=all
dated 2010-10-11
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yeah thanks mate, i managed to find it on my pc from before, was in a different folder!! already flashed it, hope it's an improvement, was getting sick and tired of things hanging etc...
cheers

jonbaker76 said:
Currently I have the following installed:
ROM: 1.66.405.2 (76641) WWE
Radio: 2.06.51.07
UK unbranded HD2 on o2
Now, a while back I'm sure the HTC support section had a new upgrade. I downloaded it but never bothered to install.
That file is called:
_HTC HD2_RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.66.405.2_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship.exe
Which seems to be the same as what I've got! Yet when i run that file it says:
PDA Phone ROM Update Utility 3.27.4.3 (is the 3.27 the rom or the version of the update utility?)
Additionaly the date on the HTC site of the update is 2010-01-25 which can't be the one i got before. I'm sure there is a 3. something rom.. ??? Have they taken the newer one down opr something?
Someone please, sort my brain out!! thanks!
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sorry to charge in here with what may seem a very daft question but how to tell if your hd2 is branded..or not. Do you mean the actual device casing is Unbranded (as is mine) but i still have the 02 splashscreen when the device boots up. Again sorry for my ignorance but is my splashscreen indicitive of my phone being o2 branded or is it (should be) printed to the casing of the phone?
thanx

it has the o2 splash so its almost certainly branded. its the rom thats branded not the casing, and by branded we mean you get your updates through your provider (or select the provider branded rom on the HTC website, to be more accurate). Your phone will only accept roms signed by your provider, unless you use sspl/hspl, and vice versa, an unbranded phone wont take provider roms.
Some providers dont brand them, virgin, i believe dont brand them.
Also called rom lock or rom locked, or provider locked.
to be sure, go HERE (assuming you're uk) and try download teh top entry using your real serial number. its a branded 3.14 o2 rom, so if it lets you, your phone is branded. if it doesnt let you, its not, and you should use the one pointed out above, the generic wwe.
just as extra info, before 3.14, if your phone was branded you got different versions, so a generic 1.66 rom was 1.72 for branded phones. Same rom, just with o2 junk.

I don't have any branding to the case OR the software, to be honest i don't think i could stand either.. I've always bought my contracts from carphonewarehouse and every phone they have supplied me with is unbranded.
Always on O2, all my previous Nokia handsets were the same.
Perhaps like the previous poster said i don't give them a chance to get their software on, i'm always straight off the mark with brand new releases

jonbaker76 said:
I've always bought my contracts from carphonewarehouse and every phone they have supplied me with is unbranded.
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all yea thats why you use generic wwe roms. cpw sell unbranded phones, and sometimes lock them to a carrier, often dont. But either way, the phone would still use generic non branded roms. rom lock and carrier lock/sim lock are unconnected.