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[Q] Switch from Note II for Nexus 4?

I've been using Galaxy Nexus for 1 year and liked its size and weight, but didn't like it's battery life and performance, so I bought Note II, but my arms hurt so much because of size and weight Do you think I would better sell Note II and buy Nexus 4?

Totally

If you cant enjoy it than why keep it. Plus since the size of the phone is your problem than yes, Nexus 7 sounds about right.
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Nexus 4 or note and hit the gym. If your arms hurt from a phone there is a problem!
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jaju123 said:
Nexus 4 or note and hit the gym. If your arms hurt from a phone there is a problem!
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Gym is the reason why my arm hurts Probably had a small injury and Note II causes it to hurt....

Asking this question here, you just might get everyone saying get an N4!
It really depends on what you want, if the Note 2 is too big then why keep it. The Nexus 4 is really smooth, I haven't had any issues with it at all on stock. I've rooted it but I have never kept anything stock, so I'm trying to keep it this way to get a good feel for it.
I honestly thought about getting the Note 2 as well though too, if I wasn't able to buy a Nexus 4 I was going to get a Note 2.
Take a look at the threads, see how people like it. Personally I haven't had any issues with my phone, I would probably say the camera is better on the Note 2 though from what I've seen online, and the battery life. Remember if you get the N4, it wont have saturated colors like on Samsung phones.

ketjr81 said:
Asking this question here, you just might get everyone saying get an N4!
It really depends on what you want, if the Note 2 is too big then why keep it. The Nexus 4 is really smooth, I haven't had any issues with it at all on stock. I've rooted it but I have never kept anything stock, so I'm trying to keep it this way to get a good feel for it.
I honestly thought about getting the Note 2 as well though too, if I wasn't able to buy a Nexus 4 I was going to get a Note 2.
Take a look at the threads, see how people like it. Personally I haven't had any issues with my phone, I would probably say the camera is better on the Note 2 though from what I've seen online, and the battery life. Remember if you get the N4, it wont have saturated colors like on Samsung phones.
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I would certainly get Nexus 4 and Nexus 10 if nexus 10 had 3G module... That's why I took Note II - as a good combine.
Nexus 4 battery life doesn't appeal to me because I use a phone a lot, and I don't see a point in Nexus 10 without mobile internet.... and wifi tethering consumer battery as well.
By the way, I don't understand why people claim Note II as almost a tablet replacement - it is just a huge phone but not a tablet replacement at all, only in the battery terms. The experience is not much better comparing with 4.65 inch but it is even worse because of difficulties with one hand working with it....

Your arms hurt from the size and weight?
You may have bigger problems than a phone choice.

I switched from Note Ns loving the Nexus experience.
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any one came from the note 2?

hey guys I have the note 2 and I finally saw the nexus 4 in person and wow I was just wow its brighter then the note 2 going threw menus was just smooth! I can deal with stock andriod also I got a offer nexus 4 8gb for 175 for my note not sure if I should pull the tigger what do you guys think.
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Stock Android. Updates directly from Google as they become available.

Both are good... Depends on what you want. Personally I get bored with the plastic build of Samsung after a while. Only thing you will miss from Note 2 is the awesome camera and bigger battery. Camera is average in Nexus 4. Nexus rules them all with latest software and best xda dev support.
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kirdroid said:
Both are good... Depends on what you want. Personally I get bored with the plastic build of Samsung after a while. Only thing you will miss from Note 2 is the awesome camera and bigger battery. Camera is average in Nexus 4. Nexus rules them all with latest software and best xda dev support.
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There are cool features from Touchwiz which you may miss. The screenshare to Xbox 360 is pretty freakin cool.

What about the screen size change for you? Seems like most Note2 owner swears they can never downsize to anything smaller after using one. Personally, the biggest reason I'd switch from a Note 2 to a Nexus 4 is for cost savings. As stated, the N4's camera and battery life are certainly mediocre in comparison to the Note 2's.

i had the note 2, and my buddy still has it, which helps or else i would probably remember the note a little better than it actually is, that being said i lke my nexus 4 more, a larger screen is nice but for as long as the resolution is the same i dont mind it being on the smaller screen. and yeah its a little washed out and battery and cam lack, BUT after that i enjoy the feel, the onscreen buttons, jb 4.2, the dev community, Google wallet! and keeping track of less features often makes me use my phone in a more efficient manner, i think googles nexus program is perfect for learning to balance total customization and you 4X4 iphone screen, TW gets a little complicated though i understand it well. also coming from the note i didnt find the N4 to be washed out as much as i thought the note was way too vivid, just my 0.02 both are favs to me

The Note 2 is way more expensive... At least get the 16Gb version

Does note 2 use the same size sim card as nexus 4?
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Trade my Note 2 for new Nexus 4

Am I crazy for possibly thinking of trading my one month old Galaxy Note 2 for the Nexus 4 ? I have my N2 listed on CL I am will trade plus cash for a new in box N4.
My last three phones have been the Galaxy Nexus, Nexus-S, Nexus-One. When I couldn't buy the Nexus 4, due to bring sold out, I got the annual upgrade itch, and read so many positive reviews on the Note 2, I went for it.
Now four weeks with the N2, having second thoughts, if its a keeper.
Mainly the size, the N2, really is hard to handle one handed most of the time. I am so used to one hand texting, and just using my phones with ease one handed, the N2 is more if a two hander. Or can be used with one hand, but need to balance it just right cradled in your hand, to get your thumb all the way to the other side, or really stretch hard to pull down notification bar.
Buy the battery life is amazing, is super fast smooth phone, and the screen is awesome for YouTube and reading things.
I am running CM10.1, couldn't stand Touchwiz, and actually not using the S-Pen like I thought I would. I just forget its there, just not used to a stylus type device.
But worried about the Nexus 4, battery life, over heating, and other issues I read about.
Opinion ?
Selling my Note 2, I'd almost have enough for both, a new Nexus 4, and used Nexus 7 tablet.
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Since u have experience with previous nexus devices then go ahead and sell ur note.
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i love the nexus, no touchjiz and open source, dont have to worry about exynos chip, great stability out of the box. the build quality is good, theres alot of issues judging by whats in the thread but how many people post positive experiences, overheating isnt an issue, using francos kernel you can change the threshold.
the battery life is good, i spend 5hours daily reading from the display,glad i didnt get the s3 or note,
it will either be the nexus 4 or a xperia z

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i was really gonna get Galaxy S3. My brother got it first, and i got to play with it; installing custom rom. I didnt liked it much. Also, over the past years, I had bad experiences with Samsung and HTC products. Nexus 4 was my best option. I am happy choosing N4 . Love this phone. Battery life is awesome! recently updated to 4.2.2 with no issues. Its very fast!

Nexus is awesome. I'm sure you can sell your note2 easily.
Mytradeins.com could help if you can't sell to anyone...

I think only reason you would want a nexus device is to get the latest software. I think the note 2 is a better phone overall. Screen, sound and battery is bigger and better.
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i sold the note 2 for the nexus 4..
i shouldve stuck with the note 2 lol...
youll miss the 2 day battery life on the note

I own both phones... And while I love my Note II, I love my Nexus 4 as well, even though I've never cared for LG phones... There are features on my Note II that the N4 just doesn't provide, and while I still do have the option to flash an AOSP RoM to my Note II, thats where my N4 kicks in... IMHO if I had to only choose one, I'd keep my Note II any day of the week... But if your a purist, the N4 is the way to go...

Sure sounds like I should keep the Note 2 ? Might look back as a mistake later going for the Nexus 4 ? The battery life is amazing on the N2.
What about having both an, Nexus 4 + Nexus 7, vs just the Note 2 ? I could sell the N2, and pretty much have enough for both N4 + N7
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I would go with N4 !

Note 2 or Nexus 4 . I would stay with the Note 2. Now if you flip the Note 2 for a Nexus 4 and a Nexus 7 then do it. Basically you have a 2 for 1 deal.
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Owning htc, samsung, and other devices with manufacture overlays on top of android, I will never buy another non nexus stock android device again. Stock android is the place to be.

Just worried the loss of battery life, between the N2 and N4 ?
But if I can get both the brand new Nexus 4 and money left over for a used Nexus 7, I think that'd be worth it ?
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Zorachus said:
Just worried the loss of battery life, between the N2 and N4 ?
But if I can get both the brand new Nexus 4 and money left over for a used Nexus 7, I think that'd be worth it ?
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You WILL miss the battery life.
BUT in our lives we are now nearly always near a charger.
and
the screen has been fixed. Now putting my N4 next to my wife's S3, I have to say that whites are now better on N4 (won't vouch for the other colors, it s a matter of taste, and while we are on the subject, you will feel you are missing some colors from AMOLED, but after a week or 2 you ll like the N4 screen too ).

Is it worth to buy a Nexus 4 at this time?

I've used Galaxy Note II for about 6 months and just lost it in a festival last night
So I use my old Galaxy S II for now. Do you guys think it will be worth to buy a Nexus 4. Is it like using an worse phone than ever?
Because the price of a Nexus 4 is much lower than a Note II.
I know that I will lose some advantages of a Note II such as better camera, larger screen, S-Pen and its features (which I hardly use them), better battery life.
I, however, like flashing custom roms and like the speed of AOSP roms which is way smoother than Touchwiz UX in a Note II. And of course the closed-source CPU of a Note II is not much suitable to do it.
So what do you guys think if I buy a Nexus 4 at this time. Or it would be better to wait for the new Nexus device.
Thx

Don't compare the devices based on price
The hardware will last for a long time, and it will keep receiving the latest updates too
I would sell the SII and put the money towards a Nexus 4*. The Nexus 5 (or 4.2 or whatever...) might come out, and you might hate it. It might also cost £600 pay as you go instead of being cheap like the N4
If you must have the new Nexus when it comes out, you can sell the Nexus 4 and put the money towards the new one
*This may be a little bias as I hate Samsung devices, but it doesn't take away from the fact that the Nexus 4 is great, and worth a lot more than £250

I traded my galaxy note 2 for a nexus 4 and haven't looked back. The phone is more smooth and bloat free. It's unlocked and has a better resolution of 320 ppi compared to the note 2s ppi. You get timely updates from Google and the support on this phone is unmatched. The function I miss is the s pen but you'll quickly forget all that when you start using this phone. Now for me I can't see myself using another phone other then the Nexus 4 because it's so fast and buttery smooth.
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Have you noticed any lags on Nexus 4?
My old Note II had a little bit lag sometimes when scrolling through home screens or opening/closing the app drawer.

I have the note 1 and the charger port was going bad so I found a sweet deal on craiglist where this guy had just bought a N4 and he was to much an apple fan. So I scooped it up basically brand new for 300. I have had it for a week and I really do love the N4. It is so fast and easy to root. It will be getting updates for a while as well. I was always flashing AOSP roms on my note so why not just have and AOSP phone.
The only con I have found that I am getting over quickly is the screen size. I really did like the larger screen. However the N4 is not exactly a small phone either but compared to the note everything seems small. That is really the only con I have so far.
I think if your into flashing roms or like AOSP then the N4 is a no brainer.

OK. Just knows the smoothness
Let's talk about a problem (high PRS value)
Is it obviously noticeable for daily usage? I read about the problem and it makes me hesitate.

bankgg said:
I've used Galaxy Note II for about 6 months and just lost it in a festival last night
So I use my old Galaxy S II for now. Do you guys think it will be worth to buy a Nexus 4. Is it like using an worse phone than ever?
Because the price of a Nexus 4 is much lower than a Note II.
I know that I will lose some advantages of a Note II such as better camera, larger screen, S-Pen and its features (which I hardly use them), better battery life.
I, however, like flashing custom roms and like the speed of AOSP roms which is way smoother than Touchwiz UX in a Note II. And of course the closed-source CPU of a Note II is not much suitable to do it.
So what do you guys think if I buy a Nexus 4 at this time. Or it would be better to wait for the new Nexus device.
Thx
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Hi,
As far as N4 is concerned, I want to tell you that I am using this phone from last 1 month & it's performance is superb.
Also if you will wait for N5, it might not come as cheap as its predecessor (N4). N4 has hardware that will not be outdated for at least 2 years.
So the choice is yours....!! :good:

Just have to say just got my nexus and its great very fast and the battery is phenomenal... At least for how much I use my phone 2-3 hours screen time or less
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Agreed.. stock unrooted 4.2.2, I get 18-20 hours with 2.5 hours screen on daily.

bankgg said:
I've used Galaxy Note II for about 6 months and just lost it in a festival last night
So I use my old Galaxy S II for now. Do you guys think it will be worth to buy a Nexus 4. Is it like using an worse phone than ever?
Because the price of a Nexus 4 is much lower than a Note II.
I know that I will lose some advantages of a Note II such as better camera, larger screen, S-Pen and its features (which I hardly use them), better battery life.
I, however, like flashing custom roms and like the speed of AOSP roms which is way smoother than Touchwiz UX in a Note II. And of course the closed-source CPU of a Note II is not much suitable to do it.
So what do you guys think if I buy a Nexus 4 at this time. Or it would be better to wait for the new Nexus device.
Thx
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The Galaxy was quite popular and it still has much life left. That's why Samsung decided to create a successor...the Galaxy S3.
I agree that you shouldn't compare phones based on it's price. Just so you know when Google sells the phone they don't make a profit off of it. They lose money rather than gain.
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yes its still worth it at this moment in time.
Great hardware, great design, super fast and snappy
HUGE development for the phone as well.
Main question should be to yourself, is it worth it to you ?
you got the new htc one and galaxy s4 and note 3 in the future of course these will beat out nexus 4 specs doesn't bring down the nexus 4
is really up to you.
I love my nexus 4 i always got tired of my old phones quick, my touch 4g, galaxy s3, htc one s, etc.
this is the first phone im TAKING EXTRA CARE OF just because i love it so much and im keeping it as long as i can as well.
Its a decision youll have to make yourself
can u hold off a while while using the s2?
or you want a sexy phone ASAP ?

bodom_hc said:
yes its still worth it at this moment in time.
Great hardware, great design, super fast and snappy
HUGE development for the phone as well.
Main question should be to yourself, is it worth it to you ?
you got the new htc one and galaxy s4 and note 3 in the future of course these will beat out nexus 4 specs doesn't bring down the nexus 4
is really up to you.
I love my nexus 4 i always got tired of my old phones quick, my touch 4g, galaxy s3, htc one s, etc.
this is the first phone im TAKING EXTRA CARE OF just because i love it so much and im keeping it as long as i can as well.
Its a decision youll have to make yourself
can u hold off a while while using the s2?
or you want a sexy phone ASAP ?
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100% agree!!!

Definitely get it. Because of it's low selling price, it wont drop much at all.
Performance is the one of the best.
Custom rom support is great. Nexus 4 was my first Nexus device and from now on, I don't think I can go back to other phones. I'll be getting the Nexus 5 on release day for sure.

crazyninjah1992 said:
Just have to say just got my nexus and its great very fast and the battery is phenomenal... At least for how much I use my phone 2-3 hours screen time or less
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you can´t say that, that´s a lie.
2 hours of screentime on a smartphone on which you can do ANYTHING are absolute CRAP
2 hours of screentime, on a 24 hours day, means that you won´t go from morning till evening.
period.
I just got my n4 last week, and I´m really angry because no one mentions that the battery is CRAP.
the phone is absolutely great, but the battery, as I might have already mentioned, is CRAP.

If you interested in getting Latest updates quickly and great ROM support,just get it.
Else HTC one and S4 would be better options...

Its always worth it as long as the phone was newly released
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pesante said:
you can´t say that, that´s a lie.
2 hours of screentime on a smartphone on which you can do ANYTHING are absolute CRAP
2 hours of screentime, on a 24 hours day, means that you won´t go from morning till evening.
period.
I just got my n4 last week, and I´m really angry because no one mentions that the battery is CRAP.
the phone is absolutely great, but the battery, as I might have already mentioned, is CRAP.
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Relax. It's not a lie, the battery is phenomenal. I use my Nexus 4 the same exact way I used my Galaxy S3, and I used to get 10-12 hours on the S3 tops.
I get 18-20 hours on my Nexus 4 with the same exact usage.
Sounds like you have some bad configurations/apps messing up your battery life.. or unrealistic expectations. One of the two.

pesante said:
you can´t say that, that´s a lie.
2 hours of screentime on a smartphone on which you can do ANYTHING are absolute CRAP
2 hours of screentime, on a 24 hours day, means that you won´t go from morning till evening.
period.
I just got my n4 last week, and I´m really angry because no one mentions that the battery is CRAP.
the phone is absolutely great, but the battery, as I might have already mentioned, is CRAP.
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You can't say that that's a lie either (see what I did there? )
He's speaking from his own experiences and you have no way of conclusively proving that he's lying and hasn't managed a day with 2 hours of screen on time. For some people the battery life will be more than adequate (e.g. for myself). For others it'll be a huge disappointment (e.g. for you). Try out different kernels and you may be able to improve on what you're currently getting. I, for one, managed 17 hours with 2hrs 40 minutes of screen on time (playing Real Racing 3, that thing is addictive) before the phone reached 10% battery. This was with brightness at 100% and the kernel that comes with PA3+.

ingenious247 said:
Relax. It's not a lie, the battery is phenomenal. I use my Nexus 4 the same exact way I used my Galaxy S3, and I used to get 10-12 hours on the S3 tops.
I get 18-20 hours on my Nexus 4 with the same exact usage.
Sounds like you have some bad configurations/apps messing up your battery life.. or unrealistic expectations. One of the two.
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I don't think i have wrong settings
Of course, I also don't have any 'battery saver app that kills every single feature of this phone in order to go through the day.
And there's nothing unrealistic in that.
Jeeeez I'm kinda of confused now: i used to know that iPhone users were fanboys.... But looks like the situation here isn't any better

pesante said:
I don't think i have wrong settings
Of course, I also don't have any 'battery saver app that kills every single feature of this phone in order to go through the day.
And there's nothing unrealistic in that.
Jeeeez I'm kinda of confused now: i used to know that iPhone users were fanboys.... But looks like the situation here isn't any better
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I don't use any app to control my battery. I'm on stock 4.2.2 (not even rooted)
If 18-20 hours with 2.5-3 hours screen on time is not phenomenal for today's phones, please explain to me what is.
For the record no one is acting like a "fan boy", I'm not saying that the Nexus 4 is the best phone in the world or that other phones suck, all I am saying is that it has great battery life based on my experience comparing it to multiple Android phones. Every phone I have ever owned did not get this kind of battery life.

Previous Phone and Why Note 7

S7 edge and the curved on note 7 is better

S7 Edge, and because why not. New stuff is always fun, and I typically upgrade phones a lot.

Nexus 6p to note 7 because I like new phones

HTC One M8 to Note 7 because the M8 is wearing out and the Note 7 looks to be an awesome device. However I'm a bit uneasy about not having the ability to root, not being able to restore apps borked by updates, and not being able to TWRP backup the device once I have it set up the way I like. Hoping the device is good enough that no root will seem like a minor trade off.

Nexus 6 to Note 7. Nexus 6 is a lag-fest. I miss calls constantly because the screen refuses to let me swipe to answer. Yes, I've tried reflashing, keeping apps uninstalled, etc. The only thing I haven't tried is rooting and doing a custom ROM, which I am not doing to make the phone simply usable. Not to mention the camera is awful. Laggy, slow, and takes awful pictures. Of all the Android phones I've owned, the Nexus 6 is 2nd to worst [worst was Droid RAZR due to horrid battery life].
As much as everyone loves the Nexus, it feels like the only thing going for it is updates straight from El Goog.
One of my favorite phones was the Note 2, if not the favorite. It feels like I am coming home with the Note 7.

MJB_One said:
HTC One M8 to Note 7 because the M8 is wearing out and the Note 7 looks to be an awesome device. However I'm a bit uneasy about not having the ability to root, not being able to restore apps borked by updates, and not being able to TWRP backup the device once I have it set up the way I like. Hoping the device is good enough that no root will seem like a minor trade off.
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I went from M8 to Note 5 and was uneasy like you. It was the first phone I ever bought with (1) Nonremovable battery, (2) no expandable storage, and (3) the knowledge that it probably would never get root. I have not regretted it or missed flashing ROMs constantly at all, honestly! Maybe I'm just over the non-stop updates and stuff, but it was great having a phone that flat out rocked and I never felt the NEED for root because it was fast and pretty damn great out of the box (and still is!). I think you'll find a similar experience with the Note 7, which looks even better!
Anyway, I'm coming from the Note 5 and going to the Note 7 because I was able to get a good deal and sell my Note 5 for $450, making my Note 7 free for 13 months (and then my upgrade kicks in so the cost per month drops to $16/mo basically). So the phone will cost me under $200. No brainer at that point!
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HTC 10 - I thought I could live with the screen size. Turns out I can't.
Also -- The n7 just looks so damned good.

Very reassuring, thank you! I am SO looking forward to getting this phone, and really tired of seeing the "order processing" status on Verizon lol.
PsiPhiDan said:
I went from M8 to Note 5 and was uneasy like you. It was the first phone I ever bought with (1) Nonremovable battery, (2) no expandable storage, and (3) the knowledge that it probably would never get root. I have not regretted it or missed flashing ROMs constantly at all, honestly! Maybe I'm just over the non-stop updates and stuff, but it was great having a phone that flat out rocked and I never felt the NEED for root because it was fast and pretty damn great out of the box (and still is!). I think you'll find a similar experience with the Note 7, which looks even better!
Anyway, I'm coming from the Note 5 and going to the Note 7 because I was able to get a good deal and sell my Note 5 for $450, making my Note 7 free for 13 months (and then my upgrade kicks in so the cost per month drops to $16/mo basically). So the phone will cost me under $200. No brainer at that point!
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Note 3. I REALLY wanted the Note 5 but was not impressed enough, I love my rooted Note 3. I thought it was just time for something new. Not thrilled with the Edge screen but tired of waiting for the perfect phone that just never seems to come out as expected.

Note 5, and because it's a Note.
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HTC M 9 because it's my 4th one and it's garbage. HTC NEVER AGAIN

jak341 said:
Nexus 6 is a lag-fest.
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My Nexus 6 is one of the fastest, smoothest phones I've ever used.
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The only thing I haven't tried is rooting and doing a custom ROM, which I am not doing to make the phone simply usable.
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That's unfortunate, because that's one of the main features of buying an unlocked Nexus device. Being able to ROM it with any number of amazing ROM's. And that is why my Nexus 6 runs super-fast and super-smooth.
jak341 said:
Of all the Android phones I've owned, the Nexus 6 is 2nd to worst
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My Nexus 6 has been the 2nd best device I've ever used, only next to my Note 2 and 3.
jak341 said:
As much as everyone loves the Nexus, it feels like the only thing going for it is updates straight from El Goog.
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One of the features is frequent updates. Another is one that I mentioned previously: to be able to install any ROM you like. To be able to completely customize the phone however you like from top to bottom. It's all about freedom to do what you wish with your device.
The only negatives I have about my Nexus 6 is battery life is waning. And the phone is much heavier and thicker than a Note. I'll be retiring my Nexus 6 (as a backup device), and getting the Note 7. I'll miss being able to root and ROM. But, with the updates to TouchWiz, and the amount of features and settings that come with the Note 7, I think I may be able to live without rooting/ROMing...... for now.

Exactly. Honestly I am tired of chasing custom roms, kernels, radios..... trying to figure out what works best, what's compatible with what, having to maintain software updates myself.... I want my phone to work and I don't have time or interest in "modding it". That's why my Nexus 6 is going back to VZW and I'm finally getting another Note..
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Note 5... because of the IP68 water and dust resistance.

S6 - wanted to give the curved screen and s-pen a try. Also miss microSD storage, but it appears I'm trading that for the IR blaster.

iPhone 6S Plus 64GB, Upgraded to the Note 7 for the iPhone 7 supposedly not having a headphone jack and never getting a jailbreak. Got bored with the phone and needed to go back to Android.

Coming from the Nexus 6P, main reason was no support on Verizon for my phone so features like wifi calling at my house isnt an option and I need to be able to receive calls for work. Love my 6P but when I saw that Note 7 i had to order

iPhone 6s to the N7. Bored of iOS and want a bigger screen. Love the water/dust resistance and miss having an s-pen when I had a N3.

Note 4. Because I dropped it and broke the screen about a month ago and had to use my wife's old phone waiting for the 7 to come out.

Coming from Note 5 64GB which I liked more than the note 2, 3, and 4. Upgraded because the SD is back, better battery, cool Iris feature, sleeker, Spen is better, color, and just the fact that it's a new note.