Is it worth to buy a Nexus 4 at this time? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've used Galaxy Note II for about 6 months and just lost it in a festival last night
So I use my old Galaxy S II for now. Do you guys think it will be worth to buy a Nexus 4. Is it like using an worse phone than ever?
Because the price of a Nexus 4 is much lower than a Note II.
I know that I will lose some advantages of a Note II such as better camera, larger screen, S-Pen and its features (which I hardly use them), better battery life.
I, however, like flashing custom roms and like the speed of AOSP roms which is way smoother than Touchwiz UX in a Note II. And of course the closed-source CPU of a Note II is not much suitable to do it.
So what do you guys think if I buy a Nexus 4 at this time. Or it would be better to wait for the new Nexus device.
Thx

Don't compare the devices based on price
The hardware will last for a long time, and it will keep receiving the latest updates too
I would sell the SII and put the money towards a Nexus 4*. The Nexus 5 (or 4.2 or whatever...) might come out, and you might hate it. It might also cost £600 pay as you go instead of being cheap like the N4
If you must have the new Nexus when it comes out, you can sell the Nexus 4 and put the money towards the new one
*This may be a little bias as I hate Samsung devices, but it doesn't take away from the fact that the Nexus 4 is great, and worth a lot more than £250

I traded my galaxy note 2 for a nexus 4 and haven't looked back. The phone is more smooth and bloat free. It's unlocked and has a better resolution of 320 ppi compared to the note 2s ppi. You get timely updates from Google and the support on this phone is unmatched. The function I miss is the s pen but you'll quickly forget all that when you start using this phone. Now for me I can't see myself using another phone other then the Nexus 4 because it's so fast and buttery smooth.
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Have you noticed any lags on Nexus 4?
My old Note II had a little bit lag sometimes when scrolling through home screens or opening/closing the app drawer.

I have the note 1 and the charger port was going bad so I found a sweet deal on craiglist where this guy had just bought a N4 and he was to much an apple fan. So I scooped it up basically brand new for 300. I have had it for a week and I really do love the N4. It is so fast and easy to root. It will be getting updates for a while as well. I was always flashing AOSP roms on my note so why not just have and AOSP phone.
The only con I have found that I am getting over quickly is the screen size. I really did like the larger screen. However the N4 is not exactly a small phone either but compared to the note everything seems small. That is really the only con I have so far.
I think if your into flashing roms or like AOSP then the N4 is a no brainer.

OK. Just knows the smoothness
Let's talk about a problem (high PRS value)
Is it obviously noticeable for daily usage? I read about the problem and it makes me hesitate.

bankgg said:
I've used Galaxy Note II for about 6 months and just lost it in a festival last night
So I use my old Galaxy S II for now. Do you guys think it will be worth to buy a Nexus 4. Is it like using an worse phone than ever?
Because the price of a Nexus 4 is much lower than a Note II.
I know that I will lose some advantages of a Note II such as better camera, larger screen, S-Pen and its features (which I hardly use them), better battery life.
I, however, like flashing custom roms and like the speed of AOSP roms which is way smoother than Touchwiz UX in a Note II. And of course the closed-source CPU of a Note II is not much suitable to do it.
So what do you guys think if I buy a Nexus 4 at this time. Or it would be better to wait for the new Nexus device.
Thx
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Hi,
As far as N4 is concerned, I want to tell you that I am using this phone from last 1 month & it's performance is superb.
Also if you will wait for N5, it might not come as cheap as its predecessor (N4). N4 has hardware that will not be outdated for at least 2 years.
So the choice is yours....!! :good:

Just have to say just got my nexus and its great very fast and the battery is phenomenal... At least for how much I use my phone 2-3 hours screen time or less
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Agreed.. stock unrooted 4.2.2, I get 18-20 hours with 2.5 hours screen on daily.

bankgg said:
I've used Galaxy Note II for about 6 months and just lost it in a festival last night
So I use my old Galaxy S II for now. Do you guys think it will be worth to buy a Nexus 4. Is it like using an worse phone than ever?
Because the price of a Nexus 4 is much lower than a Note II.
I know that I will lose some advantages of a Note II such as better camera, larger screen, S-Pen and its features (which I hardly use them), better battery life.
I, however, like flashing custom roms and like the speed of AOSP roms which is way smoother than Touchwiz UX in a Note II. And of course the closed-source CPU of a Note II is not much suitable to do it.
So what do you guys think if I buy a Nexus 4 at this time. Or it would be better to wait for the new Nexus device.
Thx
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The Galaxy was quite popular and it still has much life left. That's why Samsung decided to create a successor...the Galaxy S3.
I agree that you shouldn't compare phones based on it's price. Just so you know when Google sells the phone they don't make a profit off of it. They lose money rather than gain.
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yes its still worth it at this moment in time.
Great hardware, great design, super fast and snappy
HUGE development for the phone as well.
Main question should be to yourself, is it worth it to you ?
you got the new htc one and galaxy s4 and note 3 in the future of course these will beat out nexus 4 specs doesn't bring down the nexus 4
is really up to you.
I love my nexus 4 i always got tired of my old phones quick, my touch 4g, galaxy s3, htc one s, etc.
this is the first phone im TAKING EXTRA CARE OF just because i love it so much and im keeping it as long as i can as well.
Its a decision youll have to make yourself
can u hold off a while while using the s2?
or you want a sexy phone ASAP ?

bodom_hc said:
yes its still worth it at this moment in time.
Great hardware, great design, super fast and snappy
HUGE development for the phone as well.
Main question should be to yourself, is it worth it to you ?
you got the new htc one and galaxy s4 and note 3 in the future of course these will beat out nexus 4 specs doesn't bring down the nexus 4
is really up to you.
I love my nexus 4 i always got tired of my old phones quick, my touch 4g, galaxy s3, htc one s, etc.
this is the first phone im TAKING EXTRA CARE OF just because i love it so much and im keeping it as long as i can as well.
Its a decision youll have to make yourself
can u hold off a while while using the s2?
or you want a sexy phone ASAP ?
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100% agree!!!

Definitely get it. Because of it's low selling price, it wont drop much at all.
Performance is the one of the best.
Custom rom support is great. Nexus 4 was my first Nexus device and from now on, I don't think I can go back to other phones. I'll be getting the Nexus 5 on release day for sure.

crazyninjah1992 said:
Just have to say just got my nexus and its great very fast and the battery is phenomenal... At least for how much I use my phone 2-3 hours screen time or less
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you can´t say that, that´s a lie.
2 hours of screentime on a smartphone on which you can do ANYTHING are absolute CRAP
2 hours of screentime, on a 24 hours day, means that you won´t go from morning till evening.
period.
I just got my n4 last week, and I´m really angry because no one mentions that the battery is CRAP.
the phone is absolutely great, but the battery, as I might have already mentioned, is CRAP.

If you interested in getting Latest updates quickly and great ROM support,just get it.
Else HTC one and S4 would be better options...

Its always worth it as long as the phone was newly released
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pesante said:
you can´t say that, that´s a lie.
2 hours of screentime on a smartphone on which you can do ANYTHING are absolute CRAP
2 hours of screentime, on a 24 hours day, means that you won´t go from morning till evening.
period.
I just got my n4 last week, and I´m really angry because no one mentions that the battery is CRAP.
the phone is absolutely great, but the battery, as I might have already mentioned, is CRAP.
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Relax. It's not a lie, the battery is phenomenal. I use my Nexus 4 the same exact way I used my Galaxy S3, and I used to get 10-12 hours on the S3 tops.
I get 18-20 hours on my Nexus 4 with the same exact usage.
Sounds like you have some bad configurations/apps messing up your battery life.. or unrealistic expectations. One of the two.

pesante said:
you can´t say that, that´s a lie.
2 hours of screentime on a smartphone on which you can do ANYTHING are absolute CRAP
2 hours of screentime, on a 24 hours day, means that you won´t go from morning till evening.
period.
I just got my n4 last week, and I´m really angry because no one mentions that the battery is CRAP.
the phone is absolutely great, but the battery, as I might have already mentioned, is CRAP.
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You can't say that that's a lie either (see what I did there? )
He's speaking from his own experiences and you have no way of conclusively proving that he's lying and hasn't managed a day with 2 hours of screen on time. For some people the battery life will be more than adequate (e.g. for myself). For others it'll be a huge disappointment (e.g. for you). Try out different kernels and you may be able to improve on what you're currently getting. I, for one, managed 17 hours with 2hrs 40 minutes of screen on time (playing Real Racing 3, that thing is addictive) before the phone reached 10% battery. This was with brightness at 100% and the kernel that comes with PA3+.

ingenious247 said:
Relax. It's not a lie, the battery is phenomenal. I use my Nexus 4 the same exact way I used my Galaxy S3, and I used to get 10-12 hours on the S3 tops.
I get 18-20 hours on my Nexus 4 with the same exact usage.
Sounds like you have some bad configurations/apps messing up your battery life.. or unrealistic expectations. One of the two.
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I don't think i have wrong settings
Of course, I also don't have any 'battery saver app that kills every single feature of this phone in order to go through the day.
And there's nothing unrealistic in that.
Jeeeez I'm kinda of confused now: i used to know that iPhone users were fanboys.... But looks like the situation here isn't any better

pesante said:
I don't think i have wrong settings
Of course, I also don't have any 'battery saver app that kills every single feature of this phone in order to go through the day.
And there's nothing unrealistic in that.
Jeeeez I'm kinda of confused now: i used to know that iPhone users were fanboys.... But looks like the situation here isn't any better
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I don't use any app to control my battery. I'm on stock 4.2.2 (not even rooted)
If 18-20 hours with 2.5-3 hours screen on time is not phenomenal for today's phones, please explain to me what is.
For the record no one is acting like a "fan boy", I'm not saying that the Nexus 4 is the best phone in the world or that other phones suck, all I am saying is that it has great battery life based on my experience comparing it to multiple Android phones. Every phone I have ever owned did not get this kind of battery life.

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former note1 user, now phoneless. what 2 do next?

Hi guys,
I bought the first galaxy note very early last year, i was probably among the first people to have it. I bought it when I was on a trip to europe and just thought it would be better than the galaxy nexus or galaxy s2, by the time I arrived back to my country I realized that I am stuck with this phone and I better like it either i want to or not. So after a whole year of using it, I sold it to an unknown person for a pretty nice price. (I lost the s-pen, and the phone was pretty bruised).
Believe it or not, today I am without a smartphone and LIFE IS HARD! i am carrying this stupid nokia 5800 which fails at everything... so I am thinking should I buy the note2? should I wait for the htc one x+? S3? or should I continue waiting for something else?
Personally and most honestly the note1 was an impressive device, but the size made it a bit unrealistic, people stared at me whenever I answered a call.. and I found it a bit uncomfortable. Other than the size, everything else was good. Today after being without a smartphone for about 2 weeks, I get impressed and satisfied even with smaller screens like the s3 features...
so help your brother here find the right path, tell me what I should do in your opinion
I love the 5800 Xpressmusic (I still use mines as my alarm clock... and it's gone 2-3 weeks without charging already).
Nostalgia aside, if you want a smaller device, go with the S3, if you like the note, go with the Note II, it got a bit thinner and a little longer so, it is *slightly* better to hold in the hand. And yeah, I can understand the awkwardness, but then again, I'm the one who walks around with a Nexus 7 in his pockets
The S3 is pretty much comparable to the Note II except there isn't a stylus, however, if you want a smaller phone, I say wait til Oct 29, as Google has just announced a conference about android they might talk about the Nexus 4 device from LG with S4 Pro, 720p 4.7" screen and vanilla android. If you want a bigger phone, get the Note II.
Like the one above say, Note2 is a nr1 device "IF" you can handle the size.
I think the note2 is more easy use with one hand then the old Note1 but it does not make it a small device tho..
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Qvp said:
Hi guys,
I bought the first galaxy note very early last year, i was probably among the first people to have it. I bought it when I was on a trip to europe and just thought it would be better than the galaxy nexus or galaxy s2, by the time I arrived back to my country I realized that I am stuck with this phone and I better like it either i want to or not. So after a whole year of using it, I sold it to an unknown person for a pretty nice price. (I lost the s-pen, and the phone was pretty bruised).
Believe it or not, today I am without a smartphone and LIFE IS HARD! i am carrying this stupid nokia 5800 which fails at everything... so I am thinking should I buy the note2? should I wait for the htc one x+? S3? or should I continue waiting for something else?
Personally and most honestly the note1 was an impressive device, but the size made it a bit unrealistic, people stared at me whenever I answered a call.. and I found it a bit uncomfortable. Other than the size, everything else was good. Today after being without a smartphone for about 2 weeks, I get impressed and satisfied even with smaller screens like the s3 features...
so help your brother here find the right path, tell me what I should do in your opinion
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Like the others said, if you don't like how big the note is, then maybe you should go with a smaller size. The note 2 isn't as wide as the note 1 tho. You should check it out at a store to see if its good.
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Try the Meizu mx4 or wait for the Xiami mi2.
I'm using the mx4 and I'm very happy with it.
It's 4" sized and thus very nice to hold in your hand.
If you want something thats easy on your wallet try going for last generation material like the s2, which has a similar form factor.
MrColdbird said:
Try the Meizu mx4 or wait for the Xiami mi2.
I'm using the mx4 and I'm very happy with it.
It's 4" sized and thus very nice to hold in your hand.
If you want something thats easy on your wallet try going for last generation material like the s2, which has a similar form factor.
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Can u even get those phones outside of china? I would imagine in Amy country outside of china meizu would be served hot on a plate by apple... you think Samsung copied apple... heck meizu got famous for outright doing so.
If not going for Note i would for sure wait and take a look at the new nexus. Even the LG optimus G looks sweet if you not dislike Lg. Or the one i really want to test out myself when it come to my country later on..Lumia 920.
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Well seems like Note1 was not good for you, so definitely Note2 is not what you looking for.
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Whatever you decide, please get the s3 with exynos and 2gb ram. The i9305. I had a problem with my old s3 where apps constantly had to be bumped off because it was limited to 1gb ram.
Seriously consider the note 2 though. Best device I've ever owned!
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If size was an issue the note 2 is definitely not for you.
Wait for the nexus.
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Qvp said:
...the note1 was an impressive device, but the size made it a bit unrealistic, people stared at me whenever I answered a call.. and I found it a bit uncomfortable...
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Hello,
As you seem to be very concerned about other peoples feelings/opinions and not your own comfort, don't punish yourself and go with the crowd. Buy a nice iPhone 5, nobody will notice you and you'll feel comfortable.
I'm very sorry but I'm astonished every time about these kind of posts; damned you're big boys and girls so make up your mind and do what you want! It's such a personal thing, nobody can help you because you are you and the others are the others....:silly:
Tonio78370 said:
Hello,
As you seem to be very concerned about other peoples feelings/opinions and not your own comfort, don't punish yourself and go with the crowd. Buy a nice iPhone 5, nobody will notice you and you'll feel comfortable.
I'm very sorry but I'm astonished every time about these kind of posts; damned you're big boys and girls so make up your mind and do what you want! It's such a personal thing, nobody can help you because you are you and the others are the others....:silly:
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I think he is just uncomfortable because when he whips out such a big phone like the note people look at him. It's really is usually big and I get stares too though I don't mind it.
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Ariozo said:
If not going for Note i would for sure wait and take a look at the new nexus. Even the LG optimus G looks sweet if you not dislike Lg. Or the one i really want to test out myself when it come to my country later on..Lumia 920.
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Yesterday I picked up my Note 2.
I was thinking the same thing: A Nexus device that comes out will always get updates a lot faster, and it'll be a "faster" device in general. But then I thought:
Quadcore is NEW and this will last a while on mobile devices.
The Note 2 has 2GB of Ram, which was my first REAL issue with the Note 1
It has an LED notification light
Giant battery
Those are the things I really wanted in my next device! The note 2 fulfills those tasks.
On the plus side of course is the SPen, NFC, and the larger screen. Another 5 inch device would be my only remedy but I didn't see LED notification light and the 2000 mah battery on the HTC version and no SPen. so I said bye bye to that idea! It would be a higher res LCD screen but a lot of minuses in my case (the LED Notification light is NECESSARY for my device now) and then the non removable battery? CRAP! I was on the bus traveling from city to city and my Note 1's battery died, and I just switched it out!
I have 15 days to return it if the next Nexus is a 5 inch device with notification LED, NFC, huge battery & an awesome screen, etc... then I'll change it for the Nexus! haha. But until then, this is a FANTASTIC device.
prinzhernan said:
Whatever you decide, please get the s3 with exynos and 2gb ram. The i9305. I had a problem with my old s3 where apps constantly had to be bumped off because it was limited to 1gb ram.
Seriously consider the note 2 though. Best device I've ever owned!
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+1
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zkyevolved said:
Yesterday I picked up my Note 2.
I was thinking the same thing: A Nexus device that comes out will always get updates a lot faster, and it'll be a "faster" device in general. But then I thought:
Quadcore is NEW and this will last a while on mobile devices.
The Note 2 has 2GB of Ram, which was my first REAL issue with the Note 1
It has an LED notification light
Giant battery
Those are the things I really wanted in my next device! The note 2 fulfills those tasks.
On the plus side of course is the SPen, NFC, and the larger screen. Another 5 inch device would be my only remedy but I didn't see LED notification light and the 2000 mah battery on the HTC version and no SPen. so I said bye bye to that idea! It would be a higher res LCD screen but a lot of minuses in my case (the LED Notification light is NECESSARY for my device now) and then the non removable battery? CRAP! I was on the bus traveling from city to city and my Note 1's battery died, and I just switched it out!
I have 15 days to return it if the next Nexus is a 5 inch device with notification LED, NFC, huge battery & an awesome screen, etc... then I'll change it for the Nexus! haha. But until then, this is a FANTASTIC device.
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Agreed. Definitely the best phone ever made... for now.
Frustration awaits, unless Samsung release those sources.
NO CM FOR YOU.
As nice CM is, i would not flash it on my note. As just on note it is the small things that CM should remove i like. I even thing if i had to chose one phone to only use with Stock it for sure should be the Note.
I cant stand stock most off the time but on Note it is doable.
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I'm awaiting the shipment of my Note II. I've been without my original Note for a while now as I sold it early so I could get more towards the II. I've been using the S3 which is a fantastic phone. Honestly I loved whenever I'd pull out the original Note and people would suddenly stare, joke, question, etc. People were always amazed by it and I can't tell you how many times I got asked if I could actually use it as a phone. People would end up loving it when I would let them use it for web browsing or something. The original Note really wasn't easy to use with one hand, but wasn't impossible. Hearing that the Note II's form factor fits slightly better in hand makes me really happy. Plus the bigger screen is ridiculous!

Would you switch from Note2 to Nexus4?

I got 30 days with my note2 and i got some decisions to make. Anyone else using the Note2 thinking of getting the Nexus4?
SysAdmNj said:
I got 30 days with my note2 and i got some decisions to make. Anyone else using the Note2 thinking of getting the Nexus4?
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I wouldn't have the note 2 in the first place. You could kill someone with the size of that phone
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I got 30 days with my note2 and i got some decisions to make. Anyone else using the Note2 thinking of getting the Nexus4?
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I'm in the same boat. I only have 14 days to make my decision though. I really like the note 2, but I like the idea of not being on contract with T-Mobile hence my conundrum with Nexus 4. What are your thoughts?
Syirrus
F4M0U569 said:
I wouldn't have the note 2 in the first place. You could kill someone with the size of that phone
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Well true, because of its weight I find myself filling up more at the pump.
Syirrus said:
I'm in the same boat. I only have 14 days to make my decision though. I really like the note 2, but I like the idea of not being on contract with T-Mobile hence my conundrum with Nexus 4. What are your thoughts?
Syirrus
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I think the note's size is a little much but if moving to the Nexus4 would mean going backwards as far as performance I wouldnt be happy with that either. I may just end up getting the Nexus4 on top lol.
I don't ownt he Note 2 or plan to buy one. Ever. But if I bought one, it would have been because I wanted a screen that size so I wouldn't trade it for the Nexus 4.
I don't think so...
I have AT&T Note ii and I have Nexus 4 16GB on the way. But I am buying Nexus 4 just to see how it is and then give it to my dad in India. There are multiple reasons for sticking with Note ii.
1) Removable MicroSD slot
2) Awesome Battery Life and Removable Battery
3) LTE Speeds (I use team viewer a lot to help my family and friends with their PCs and I am youtube junkie. Also s-pen helps a lot with team viewer and gotomypc apps.)
4) Every custom UI has its drawbacks and its positives. I feel like TouchWiz has improved a lottt and it has amazing new features which I use a lot on Note ii, like smart stay,smart rotation, smart alert, direct call, turn over to mute, palm swipe to capture screen shot and many more...
5) S-Pen is just amazing feature. I love to note down things immediately and also taking notes in the meeting. I love playing draw something too. :silly:
6) Big size and screen is negative for someone, but for me, I just love the big screen. It can be cumbersome to use it with one hand sometimes, but rest of the times while watching youtube videos and pictures and browsing, the experience is just stellar.
I have nexus 7 and I gotta tell you, for my own test, stock android doesn't cut it. I have to do many extra things to customize it. Though, it is just my opinion. Plenty of people love the stock android.
I dont know why people keep comparing them, ones a tablet that makes calls and ones a phone
I sold off my Note 2 to get the Nexus 4.
The size of the Note didn't bother me too much, I was still able to carry/bring it everywhere like a regular phone. The problems I had with it mostly laid with Touchwiz. I've only owned Nexus devices, I've had every single one of them (even if I only kept the Gnex for 6 months. **** verizon). I just really didn't like the looks of it, it's not visually appealing at all. Then we get to the s-pen. It certainly is a cool feature, but I'm no artist, I rarely need to edit spreadsheets on a mobile device. So it was mostly going unused for me. Plus the cost, I would rather pay half the price of the Note to have a device thats still quite high end. The $710 pricetag of the Note (with tax) really put a dent in my fun moneys.
My overall experience with the Note just solidified that I'll likely never own a Samsung cell phone, unless they make another Nexus.
I already have
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Bleaumaglite said:
I sold off my Note 2 to get the Nexus 4.
The size of the Note didn't bother me too much, I was still able to carry/bring it everywhere like a regular phone. The problems I had with it mostly laid with Touchwiz. I've only owned Nexus devices, I've had every single one of them (even if I only kept the Gnex for 6 months. **** verizon). I just really didn't like the looks of it, it's not visually appealing at all. Then we get to the s-pen. It certainly is a cool feature, but I'm no artist, I rarely need to edit spreadsheets on a mobile device. So it was mostly going unused for me. Plus the cost, I would rather pay half the price of the Note to have a device thats still quite high end. The $710 pricetag of the Note (with tax) really put a dent in my fun moneys.
My overall experience with the Note just solidified that I'll likely never own a Samsung cell phone, unless they make another Nexus.
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If the note was unlocked I would keep it over the nex 4 any day... The nex 4 seems awesome but a note 2 is an amassing device.. Of I could get an unlocked one for around the same price I would love to get one..
Just curious, how much did you sell the note for and was it unlocked?
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Note II to a Nexus 4 would be a huge downgrade.
Problem with touchwiz? Unlock and install vanilla android on it and problem solved.
I could never give up my Note II the screen size is amazing, camera is amazing and there hasn't been any major issues that I have heard. I think the Nexus as amazing as it is isn't quite at the same level as the Note.
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Note II to a Nexus 4 would be a huge downgrade.
Problem with touchwiz? Unlock and install vanilla android on it and problem solved.
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Can you actually do that?! If so, please point at the thread!!!
I wouldn't. The quality of Note 2 is significantly better, components used are better, internal design is better and what you get with Nexus 4 is a slightly faster CPU (which is slower after it throttles down) and official vanilla Android. I mean, it's a great phone for its price that I'm considering getting but it's not as good as the Note 2 overall. If you don't care about timely updates to official Android for the next 2 years or so as much as about hardware quality I'd keep the Note 2.
i have both. the nexus 4 is a solid phone but doesnt compare with the note 2. the note 2 is quicker ( regardless of benchmarks), samsung have done a top job with this version of touchwiz & the screen quality seems more vivid plus the additional size makes everything a pleasure:good:
Not really amused by the Nexus 4, I want a Note 2 now.
I have n4 would rather had note II but didnt have note II money. Nexus is fast. Its one the the best phones out and great price.
I don't want a phablet, I was happy to give up using a stylus once capacitive screens came out and there is no way in hell I'd pay $600 for an android device. N4 is an easy choice and if I already had the Note II I'd sell it, buy a N4 and have $300 ready for next year when the N5 comes out.
600 dollars for a big piece of touchwiz plastic. No thank you. N4 is good for me and then some.
Already have..... I took it back after using it for 10 days, got me 2 nexus and $89 back.
I've been using my Nexus for a day already and I don't miss the note.
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Nexus 5 or Note 2?

Nexus 5 released a day back and the specs are not that bad if we see. Now this has given rise to a hunger of having an official google product in me. I use my note 2 like crazy and love it too but I want to see how it feels having a nexus device.
Storage is one thing that still makes me think of retaining my Note 2. I dont use SPen much either. Nexus 5 looks strong on paper and its tempting me. Is it advisable to sell my Note 2 off and get a Nexus 5?
I am in same situation but specs are really a boost from note 2 but major flaws of nexus 5 are storage and battery life....though I really want to see the display comparison....is the nexus 5 display better than note 2's...I know its 1080p compared to 720p but I really saw some 1080p display looking worse than 720p's like xperia z1....
I will wait for some reviews and then will decide is it worth to upgrade..
The Nexus 5 compared to Note 2 , looks like cheep, plastic, smaller and non Spen device.
Next Move will bring us to Note 4.
And the answer is no way to abandon my Note 2.
Performance on the Nexus 5 will be superior. That Snapdragon 800 screams.
The main issue is battery life. A petty 2300mha battery for a 5 inch 1080p display... It's going to suck.
Screen is slightly smaller with more pixels. But it won't be as jumping with colors as it's an LCD type screen vs our AMOLED screens which pop with colors.
The performance will be much better on the Nexus 5. Better processor. Same RAM. Better GPU. More FREE ram at boot.
Now, if I didn't have the Note 2 and I were to buy a new device, I'd get the Nexus 5. But I think the Note 2 is superior FOR MY USAGE. The SPen helps a lot, and the extra screen is great. The screen is plenty packed with pixels for my usage, too. The 2GB ram is great. In fact, the Note 3 having 3GB isn't an upgrade as you have LESS FREE RAM AT BOOT than the Note 2! WTF Samsung! haha. Anyways, RAM is taken care of by the Android OS. But Samsung takes up too much ram to begin with.
With Nexus devices you won't have that issue, as there is nothing at boot extra. It's only Android processes. So it should run much more smoothly. My Note 2 does stutter or lag a little every once in a while, but it doesn't bother me in the slightest.
I don't know... Battery life on both devices are different. Smaller with updated processors vs bigger battery with less efficient display & processor? I don't know... Wait for some battery tests? Regardless, I've never killed my Note 2 in 18 hours except for my vacation days where I'm on a bus or train for 5-6 hours then I get it down a nice amount.
i was also thinking into a change to a nexus but the battery definitely make me consider having my note a year more. i bought the note for screen and battery and mexus doesn't win at any. moreover i dt know any game yet that doesn't run smoothly in the note and the screen difference is not that noticeable since my cousin has a 1080p screen and mine seems to be better also for him.
my 2 cents
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of course Nexus 5. Note 2 will get its last update with Android 4.3 Jelly Bean. But you will have many updates with Nexus 5. If you are not a traveller person, don't think about battery life. Buy 32 gb model and live your days good.
nidhish91 said:
Nexus 5 released a day back and the specs are not that bad if we see. Now this has given rise to a hunger of having an official google product in me. I use my note 2 like crazy and love it too but I want to see how it feels having a nexus device.
Storage is one thing that still makes me think of retaining my Note 2. I dont use SPen much either. Nexus 5 looks strong on paper and its tempting me. Is it advisable to sell my Note 2 off and get a Nexus 5?
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Non removable battery (instant deal killer right there for me), small and non expandable storage (32GB vs the 80GB total on my Note II), small display (even smaller than its 5" since part of that space is taken up by the virtual buttons), no S-Pen, no Samsung SW features like MultiWindow = for a poweruser they don't even play in the same league.
Samsung is doing something very stupid with the Region Lock and something less stupid but that is pissing powerusers and geeks off with the Knox warranty status but the (sad) truth is that the Note III is the ONLY smartphone out there today which I would replace my Note II with. ANYTHING else is INFERIOR to my Note II.
I gass you have very big hands to use note 3 like phone lol
Ive got note 2 yesterday and one nexus 4
Sorry but that clean android isnt for me. I prefer samsung and htc devices....not nexus
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I will get a Nexus 5 for sure to replace my backup phone HTC HD2, and will also keep my Note II forever!! unless otherwise Samsung smoehow try to screw it up with an dubious update,(yes I don't trust them anymore),I've played with a Note 3 at the store but didn't find it much an upgrade to my existing Note II.
I`d go with nexus 5..coming from note 2 user!!
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The Nexus 5 compared to Note 2 , looks like cheep, plastic
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Yea lol my Note 2's high quality aluminum construction looks so much better
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I've bought n5 and my only worry is battery. I'll tell you in a few days.
I'm happy with N2 but love nexus flavor.
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Well, If I were to buy a new phone and the Playstore sold hardware in my country, I'd seriously consider the Nexus 5.
But as an upgrade to Note 2? No way. Sure, it will run circles around the Note in the performance department... but I find that for my use, the Note's performance is sufficient (even though it lags now and then). Even for games, the lower res mens that pretty much everything runs smooth so far. And the lower res doesn't really bother me, as I find the screen of the Note 2 absolutely fantastic... better then that of HTC One, IMVHO. Xperias just can't compare. Sure some text zoomed out can be a tad sharper on 1080p, but otherwise the screen on the Note 2 is just gorgeous.
The S-Pen is usefull... especially for extending menus while browsing the web. That's one unique functionality that only a handfull of phones has and means that some webpages can only be browsed with these devices. Other tricks like video or gallery highlight thumbs are neat as well. And it's good for Excel editing too, especially during a meeting (otherwise it's quite difficult in a zoomed out view - only view in which you actually see a reasonable amount of data).
Storage? For me 16+64 GB is barely enough. Actually scratch that, 16GB internal is definately NOT enough (a bit more than 10 GB available...). I hope an update can allow me to use the external memory for apps. My memory card is almost full as well. So 32 GB altogether? No thanks (even with less bloat).
Battery? It's decent on the Note 2, but I wouldn't call it a stellar performer. So here we have a battery that's smaller by almost a third? And not removable too? I'll pass, thank you.
Plus, does the Nexus 5 even have the USB OTG capability? I remember there were some issues with the earlier models. I like to output video via MHL... love connecting an external USB drive or additional memory card via a card reader and it can be nice to connect external controllers via USB. Is Nexus 5 able to do this all?
Other stuff, primarily Multiwindow and Popup Browser are neat also. Hopefully even Pen Window will be possible on the Note 2.
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of course Nexus 5. Note 2 will get its last update with Android 4.3 Jelly Bean. But you will have many updates with Nexus 5. If you are not a traveller person, don't think about battery life. Buy 32 gb model and live your days good.
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It's not correct. Note 2 will get Kitkat update next year
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Think of it this way. Only for a few minor hardware boosts and a new Launcher would you really want to upgrade ?
Note 2 still stands as a power house when compared. And if you like the idea of talking to your phone start using Google Now the experience will be no diff.
On the other thoughts I would love to upgrade to Moto X if ever get an opportunity
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darkchazz said:
Yea lol my Note 2's high quality aluminum construction looks so much better
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Do let me know.
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After reading all your views I completely feel I'll have that itch with the nexus 5 when it comes to battery and storage Coz both things matter to me. I think my note 2 will stay in my pocket for comparatively good time
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I am running the Ditto note 3 rom. .. With 4.3... Note 3 apps and installed the 4.4 kit kat apps on top of it. .
I also have the nexus 7_2013.. which will get 4.4 and is similar to nexus 5.. But I rarely use it. .
I use my note 8 and note 2 more
Why would I need the nexus 5 ?... Note 2 is good enough. .
Will bother about a new phone next year
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C'mon!
Oh God! I think it makes no sense at all! Galaxy Note II is a pretty much older device which can still be compared to other TOP devices. Plus, the Note II has got touchwiz, and lots of Samsung applications which are pretty usefule. Nexus devices are a little too poor to me. I think that if you want to try out a Nexus device, you should try the Nexus 7 2013! I think that rocks. Got such a cool display, so incredibly fast and pure Google style. Plus: updates and other Nexus stuff.

buying N4 in 2014?

hello, I was wondering what phone to choose next to use daily and I thought of Nexus 4, but I'm a bit concerning since this phone is quite long in market and should I really think about buying one by myself? Maybe someone could give me advice about this matter?
I would, I bought mine in February. it's indeed for quite some time on the market but it's still on of the best and the support on XDA is unbelievable. I really love this phone!
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How could anybody really tell if it's worth it?
Without the information of how much you can get it. How much other newer phones will cost you.... What are coming from.
For example a nexus 4 around 300 us dollars when a nexus 5 is new for 350 doesn't make much sense. But for a different price it can make a lot of sense.
I would say go for a
nexus 5 or a g2
In UAE both are for (400$) now so........
If can find a new n4 then.......
It have to be at 200$ if no, then don't buy it
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albundy2010 said:
How could anybody really tell if it's worth it?
Without the information of how much you can get it. How much other newer phones will cost you.... What are coming from.
For example a nexus 4 around 300 us dollars when a nexus 5 is new for 350 doesn't make much sense. But for a different price it can make a lot of sense.
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Im coming from old xperia, so almost any new device would be an upgrade for me anyway.
N5 for $350 would be ok, but it is not possible for me to acquire it for that price (it is somewhere around $500).
I was considering lumia 920 /xperia SP and Nexus4, and all are basically in the same price range.
Well despite it's ****ty camera (compared to other smartphones in the same price range), it's the most obvious choice when it comes to functionality, performance, customization and support. If you can live with that, get a Nexus 4.
There are lots of similar threads, I don't see the point of opening a new one, considering all the phone in your price range are relatively dated ones too.
I bought mine 3 weeks ago and i am happy. 250 euros, new. The N5 is 330 euros.
Camera was bad at first, but the more i use it the better the photos are (call me crazy haha) so the pictures are very nice now. My ex-Note 2 had better autofocus and video, but the N4 camera is better in every other part.
i bought a nexus 4 on 1st january, u can also go for galaxy s3 , its quite a good phone with better camera and display,,
Sure the nexus 4 is a great phone with an unbelievable good support on xda. But i suggest to buy a Samsung galaxy s4, because it has some features, which were for some people are important. For example changeable battery, no softkeys , better display , sd card slot etc. But if you want a very good support and tons of roms then nexus ftw.
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I'm constantly switching between my N4 and N5, and the difference is noticable, but only when you have both side by side. Nexus 4 is a very good device as it is, capable of handling most of what you throw at it. If you get a good price for it, go ahead. You won't regret it
get the neuxs 4, i just got a samsung s4 to compare it and i find it terrible, the s4 has alot of features but if your not staying on touchwiz your better off with a nexus, you can get used to not having a sd card.
After having a nexus4 you feel no need to upgrade,the n5 looks nice but i think battery isnt big enough for the 5 inches.
N4 2100 vs 2300mah N5
republicano said:
get the neuxs 4, i just got a samsung s4 to compare it and i find it terrible, the s4 has alot of features but if your not staying on touchwiz your better off with a nexus, you can get used to not having a sd card.
After having a nexus4 you feel no need to upgrade,the n5 looks nice but i think battery isnt big enough for the 5 inches.
N4 2100 vs 2300mah N5
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Actually my n5 has better battery life than what my n4 was ever capable of.
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Better wait for Nexus 6
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Actually my n5 has better battery life than what my n4 was ever capable of.
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the reviews state its better on battery and faster to charge than the nexus4, reading reviews people expect a bigger battery due to the screen size, comparing other phones with 5inch displays, but vanilla android helps significantly
having a samsung s4, i was expecting the 2600mah battery to last a very long time, it was ok on standby and with touchwiz but all the bloat and features consume power, with the display on it was simple to trigger 1.8ghz and that would drain it faster, under clocking didnt help with UI tearing there are kernels and roms to help but i only like PA
i will wait for hybrid on PA before updating to kitkat
dont bother about nexus 6,7,8,9,10, if you want to future proof by a nokia 3310 and wait 10 years.
republicano said:
the reviews state its better on battery and faster to charge than the nexus4, reading reviews people expect a bigger battery due to the screen size, comparing other phones with 5inch displays, but vanilla android helps significantly
having a samsung s4, i was expecting the 2600mah battery to last a very long time, it was ok on standby and with touchwiz but all the bloat and features consume power, with the display on it was simple to trigger 1.8ghz and that would drain it faster, under clocking didnt help with UI tearing there are kernels and roms to help but i only like PA
i will wait for hybrid on PA before updating to kitkat
dont bother about nexus 6,7,8,9,10, if you want to future proof by a nokia 3310 and wait 10 years.
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but a Nexus 7 and 10 already exist
Yeah it's much faster to charge and much slower to completely deplete the battery. Sure it could've had a bigger battery, but it could have gotten a high price too. People tend to forget the price of a nexus device and expect it to be the best of the best.
The nexus 4 is epic, I bought it in September and it is rooted and has a custom rom on it. It has quite good battery life, really good performance, and it keeps the stock android experience rather than Samsung phones clogging up the phone with TouchWiz.
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get the neuxs 4, i just got a samsung s4 to compare it and i find it terrible, the s4 has alot of features but if your not staying on touchwiz your better off with a nexus, you can get used to not having a sd card.
After having a nexus4 you feel no need to upgrade,the n5 looks nice but i think battery isnt big enough for the 5 inches.
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But if you install a custom ROM like cm or Google edition, then its like a nexus with pure android + changeable battery+ SD card slot+ better camera and display. Don't understand me wrong ( i love my nexus 4 and its smooth and powerful, without any lags). I am not a Samsung fanboy but if i can choose today which phone i should take i would take the s4 or lg g2.
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You can wait for a while and buy the Nexus 6.
When will it be released? somewhere around october/november? I'm afraid that would take too much time.
Trust me it's a great phone even today. I bought mine around Fall 2012 and although I had to change the battery once, it is still running extremely smooth with Kit Kat 4.4.2. I recently upgraded to an iPhone 5S but gave my dad the Nexus 4. He says it's really speedy and at times even faster than the iPhone. Good phone for the price.

So happy with my Nexus 6

Well, I am literally just sharing that I am so happy with my purchase of the N6.
I came from the note 3 and before that all my phones were Samsung's. I ALWAYS rooted, and then installed an AOSP ROM. I have always LOVED straight android without all the crap. So I decided since the N6 had a big enough screen I would make the switch. I thought I would lose the better picture quality, but I was wrong.
I love that I get straight updates from google, I love the battery life, I love that I don't even need to flash a new ROM everyday. I have rooted my phone running 5.1(e) build, and installed the mod pack in the themes and apps forum so that I can switch the nav bar layout, enable battery percentage, and enable double tap to wake. I literally have nothing else I need to do to get this phone to where I want it.
Kinda sad that I don't have to flash new Roms all the time because I get bored...but that is not really a complaint.
All in all, best phone I have EVER owned....and I have owned a LOT.
Sorry for a boring post, but thought I would share my feelings.
Exactly same feel here. Very impressed with Nexus 6.
Though I've not rooted my device yet, but I heard Franco kernel is really impressive. Did you tried that?
I haven't tried Franco kernel, thought about leankernel, but trying to see how battery is with my newly installed 5.1e build. When I do, I will update this
Give Franco a try. You will not be disappointed. His kernel and the 5.1 update are killer together.
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Same here! Amazing piece of hardware, solid in the hand and beautiful to look at :victory::good:
i agree awesome phone
I really like this phone so much so I am selling my note 4 and buying another nexus 6 as a back up to my back up xperia ultra lol
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I really like this phone so much so I am selling my note 4 and buying another nexus 6 as a back up to my back up xperia ultra lol
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Do you really prefer it that much more than the note 4? any particular reasons?
Well i just got the nexus 6 and first expression was the speakers like OMG the sound is amazing now i see why you guys like the front face speaker lol. Well i have had this phone for about 3 hours lol haven't even activated it but I'm loving it so far.
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Do you really prefer it that much more than the note 4? any particular reasons?
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again this is just my opinion. both are great phones if you will use the touchpen and the other Samsung features then you will be better off with the note 4. I like pure android ( which you can also get on the note 4 with root and custom rom ) the nexus 6 has about the same footprint as the note 4 it has a bigger screen which I really like. I still have many Samsung products - 7.7 / 12.2 / note 3, and the note 4 which I am selling now - but if I had to choose between the note 4 and the nexus 6 it would be no question for me nexus 6 all the way
Coming from note 3 & found nexus 6 good but not best. I still love Samsung. Samsung do smooth out any bugs stock nexus leave.
For example lots of people complain about nexus 6 battery life, cracking noise in google voice search & ringtones, high intensity vibrations, pink screens etc. My note 3 also running Android L with 7 hours screen on time compared to just 3-4 hours on nexus 6.
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I am getting 6 hours sot with my nexus 6 and note 4 you shouldn't compare it to the note 3 which has much lower spec's
You cannot compare a note 3 to a nexus 6 at least have a note 4 to compare
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6 hours SOT not bad
Can you pls share ROM, kernel etc you are using
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Awesome. I'm on a note 3 now wanting to make the jump. Been waiting since the phone came out.
Might sound like a dumb question, but are all the Roms universal? I'm on sprint, so would I need sprint only Roms? I don't see seperwte sections like other phones have.
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Awesome. I'm on a note 3 now wanting to make the jump. Been waiting since the phone came out.
Might sound like a dumb question, but are all the Roms universal? I'm on sprint, so would I need sprint only Roms? I don't see seperwte sections like other phones have.
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All Roms are universal, as long as your are running the correct boot loader. But even that hasn't kept us from running anything. Great phone. Gonna try Franco kernel cause right now I am only getting 4 hours screen on...stock rooted, stock kernel.
Off to download Franco. Thanks everyone for participating!
My last 3 devices have all been nexus devices. Nexus 6, Nexus 4 and Galaxy Nexus. Did consider the Note 4 but to be honest have never been disappointed with Googles Vision. Its like my cars! Last few have all been jaguars. If it ticks your boxes, why take the chance for disappointment!
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Galaxy nexus.....horrible
To those of you that have had / have both a note 4 (preferably exynos for this comparrison) and a nexus 6, how do you find they compare on signal strength, particularly in areas where coverage is not all that good?
I have a note 4, and I find it slightly worse than my nexus 5 for signal strength. .. this is making me think of selling it for a n6
Chalk up another one in the "loving this phone" category. I was still on S4 and waiting for the S6, but when I realized Verizon was about to release the Nexus I had to give it a try. I was concerned about the size a little at first but once I started using it, it's a good thing. I find it much easier to type on, and just use in general. It's beautiful, snappy, and smooth as silk.
Same here, long time Samsung user that switched to the nexus side of things.
Had the s1/s3/s4/note2/note3 and when the new nexus was announced to be a 6 inch beast I couldn't resist either.
Love the dual speaker setup, the screen itself and the fact that instead of 258 apps installed on device it's 128 now (yay for bloat free awesomeness) battery life is pretty good for me and if all fails just hook it up to that big turbocharger for some quick charge juice.
This phone makes me feel the same as when I had my note 2 (note 2 is my fav note in the series imo)
I can safely say I don't miss my note 3 which was my daily phone before this one.

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