How do I root from unrooted, stock lollipop 5.0? - Verizon Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have seen many threads with info about how to upgrade to lollipop and keep root but I have not seen any that tell how to take a phone that has never been rooted and is at lollipop 5.0 and root it.
Please point me in the right direction.

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KainRacure said:
I have seen many threads with info about how to upgrade to lollipop and keep root but I have not seen any that tell how to take a phone that has never been rooted and is at lollipop 5.0 and root it.
Please point me in the right direction.
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I believe you will have to Odin back to NCG, root your phone, install safestrap and follow the instructions in this thread. See the "notes #5" in the bottom of the original posting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...l/how-to-update-to-g900vvru1boa8-5-0-t3020546

Tulsadiver said:
I believe you will have to Odin back to NCG, root your phone, install safestrap and follow the instructions in this thread. See the "notes #5" in the bottom of the original posting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...l/how-to-update-to-g900vvru1boa8-5-0-t3020546
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Through a combination of googling and reading here I finally figured it out. I might make a tutorial on how I did it here for those who were confused like I was. Though you are correct sir. I think the issue was that I kept stopping reading when all of the tutorials here kept saying "YOU MUST HAVE ROOT!" or saying "YOU MUST HAVE ____ VERSION!" I think a tutorial that is written with unrooted OA8 users in mind (and possibly with explanations of the terms like ODIN, NCG and OA8) might help some people out.
But for now if anyone is reading this he is 100% right, that method will work.

Would I lose my app data through this method?

glicholas said:
Would I lose my app data through this method?
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Very likely. Without a custom recovery you have no way to backup your data unless your individual apps have there own way to back it up kind of like your contacts.
You could try titanium backup. There is a version for phones without root. Not sure what all it can backup.

did the method you followed trip knox?
I have full confidence in muniz_ri's instructions as well as any other contributor to the development of the root/exploit; and if they say it will not trip KNOX, I am inclined to believe them. But there is so much to do, so much flashing, I wanted to see if I could get a confirmation that flashing through the use of all of the files offered in the post that it does not trip KNOX, does it KainRacure?

simplepinoi177 said:
I have full confidence in muniz_ri's instructions as well as any other contributor to the development of the root/exploit; and if they say it will not trip KNOX, I am inclined to believe them. But there is so much to do, so much flashing, I wanted to see if I could get a confirmation that flashing through the use of all of the files offered in the post that it does not trip KNOX, does it KainRacure?
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I went directly from rooted 4.4.2 to rooted Lollipop without tripping Knox and this was using Muniz's method. I did not start with Lollipop. I am running the ROM called MOAR. Since I've had this phone, I've flashed the holy crud out of it, both with Odin and safestrap and have not tripped Knox. When using Odin, always have a charged up phone and use the original data cable that came with your phone.

Tulsadiver said:
I went directly from rooted 4.4.2 to rooted Lollipop without tripping Knox and this was using Muniz's method. I did not start with Lollipop. I am running the ROM called MOAR. Since I've had this phone, I've flashed the holy crud out of it, both with Odin and safestrap and have not tripped Knox. When using Odin, always have a charged up phone and use the original data cable that came with your phone.
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Thanks for the response. It's a relief to know for when I do it as well...

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sticky on ROOT for 9506

after a LONG search I found this link, hidden in about 1300 threads in the General section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2529064
can anyone confirm this is working for the 9506 snapdragon 800 version? I got my device last night, and now for initial testing I JUST want root. I've not upgraded to 4.3.
there are only 13 threads in this section. wouldn't it be nice to get a tested and working [ROOT] sticky in this section? Root is a basic requirement for us developers (although it has been some time I've cooked something myself )
Flash a pre rooted v4.2.2 stock rom @
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2597058
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8monochrome said:
Flash a pre rooted v4.2.2 stock rom @
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2597058
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I had read that thread, but I also read that there were some issues with it (permissions, at least with the 4.3 image). So I don't want to go with that option just yet. I prefer for now the stock ROM.
I am merely trying to get root (and just root) by creating a simple root guide in this forum as a sticky.
dXsL said:
I had read that thread, but I also read that there were some issues with it (permissions, at least with the 4.3 image). So I don't want to go with that option just yet. I prefer for now the stock ROM.
I am merely trying to get root (and just root) by creating a simple root guide in this forum as a sticky.
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If your on 4.2.2 use this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2566509
Simple and works!
bumax said:
If your on 4.2.2 use this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2566509
Simple and works!
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as far as I know, and depending on who you trust, KingoApp and VROOT have not been able to produce evidence that they are NOT harvesting IMEI numbers. The last I read is that XDA admins remove all download links to KingoApp and VROOT software. In the past several warnings have been posted about both apps. Unless anyone know that these apps are ok now?
dXsL said:
as far as I know, and depending on who you trust, KingoApp and VROOT have not been able to produce evidence that they are NOT harvesting IMEI numbers. The last I read is that XDA admins remove all download links to KingoApp and VROOT software. In the past several warnings have been posted about both apps. Unless anyone know that these apps are ok now?
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I read from xda and KingoApp facebook page and they claim all of those things have been removed from their app.
Cant say it 100% sure but I am happy that root works with their app. :silly:
bumax said:
I read from xda and KingoApp facebook page and they claim all of those things have been removed from their app.
Cant say it 100% sure but I am happy that root works with their app. :silly:
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in the "old days" we could use something like RootKeeper... i.e., for example root an older version of android (like 4.2.2), upgrade to a newer version (like 4.3) and subsequently lose root, and then restore the root with RootKeeper. Is that possible with this phone?
dXsL said:
in the "old days" we could use something like RootKeeper... i.e., for example root an older version of android (like 4.2.2), upgrade to a newer version (like 4.3) and subsequently lose root, and then restore the root with RootKeeper. Is that possible with this phone?
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I havent test with i9506 but with Xcover2 (GT-S7710) I have updated two phones via OTA and root has remain after update.
Possible with i9506 I bet root wont remain, atleast with 4.3 update cause KNOX.
How I managed to root my I9506:
Note: If you updated to 4.3 via OTA, it is very likely that you wont be able to flash custom recovery via Odin.
1) Reflash the full 4.3 firmware that i got mine form sammobile via odin
2) Follow through the steps in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2529064
Warning : After rooting through the steps above my phone KNOX Warranty Void : 0x1
(Not sure if this is due to the SuperSU disabling the KNOX or the actual rooting process)
dan079 said:
How I managed to root my I9506:
Note: If you updated to 4.3 via OTA, it is very likely that you wont be able to flash custom recovery via Odin.
1) Reflash the full 4.3 firmware that i got mine form sammobile via odin
2) Follow through the steps in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2529064
Warning : After rooting through the steps above my phone KNOX Warranty Void : 0x1
(Not sure if this is due to the SuperSU disabling the KNOX or the actual rooting process)
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Hey!
Like in other treads, like galaxy S3 I9xx was talked http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2597774, the 4.3 and later have already KNOX installed and if you install custom recovery or root your device, you probably fire the KNOX warranty to 0x1. Still there no one who was able to reset this KNOX warranty to 0x0, like TRIANGLE AEAY is resetting your flashing counter.
Then DONT install any CUSTOM RECOVERY or try to ROOT your device in 4.3 or later, if you want your warranty(ofcourse if there is already have the way, how to reset KNOX).
PEACE FOR ALL!!!

Clarification on rooting and knox

OK so I have looked everywhere to find out which method is ok to run on the vz version of the note 3 running MJE. I think I find my answer and then people start talking about a different model of the note 3. So I figured the best way to find out is just ask.
How do I root without tripping the knox security? I'd like the option to flash my own roms, but have been able to figure out on my own that flashing a custom recovery will trip xnox. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
jmc2543 said:
OK so I have looked everywhere to find out which method is ok to run on the vz version of the note 3 running MJE. I think I find my answer and then people start talking about a different model of the note 3. So I figured the best way to find out is just ask.
How do I root without tripping the knox security? I'd like the option to flash my own roms, but have been able to figure out on my own that flashing a custom recovery will trip xnox. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Right now Kingo can be used to root mje build without tripping Knox. I have heard some guys having success with older versions of Kingo.
The only recovery available is safestrap. Since our bootloader is locked down. Safestrap and flashing roms for safestrap will not trip knox either.
Also heard guys using Vroot to root mje.
Tapped via my Blacked out Eclipsed Note 3
This is what I had assumed from what I read I just wanted to hear it for sure, directly for our device. Thanks a ton!!
jmc2543 said:
This is what I had assumed from what I read I just wanted to hear it for sure, directly for our device. Thanks a ton!!
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You bet bro. Maybe I will see you in the Eclipse thread?
Tapped via my Blacked out Eclipsed Note 3
Actually thanks for this thread, I was wondering the same thing. If I could add to it, is it possible to unroot and go back to complete stock if need be?
There are instructions on how to unroot back to stock but like everything else can't conform it is for this model. Thank you vz and Samsung for making crap difficult!
kubes069 said:
Actually thanks for this thread, I was wondering the same thing. If I could add to it, is it possible to unroot and go back to complete stock if need be?
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Yeppers! Flashing the stock image with odin will wipe all traces of root and safestrap, and return your phone to normal.
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[Q] Towelroot or Odin? Which is better or worse?

I needed to unroot (originally Towelrooted) to get an update, now I'm wanting to root again. Is there any advantage to root with Odin instead of Towelroot? Has anybody found any security flaws or any other negative quality with Towelroot by now? Does Odin still trip Knox? Because Towelroot didn't trip mine. Is there anything that significantly makes Odin better to use? Thanks.
How many threads are you going to start that ask the same question? This has been answered for you already. You updated, towelroot will no longer work for you, you need to root with cf-auto root using Odin. Knox will be tripped. You can try towelroot if you want.
There is no reason to make multiple threads for the same thing.
tempest22 said:
I needed to unroot (originally Towelrooted) to get an update, now I'm wanting to root again. Is there any advantage to root with Odin instead of Towelroot? Has anybody found any security flaws or any other negative quality with Towelroot by now? Does Odin still trip Knox? Because Towelroot didn't trip mine. Is there anything that significantly makes Odin better to use? Thanks.
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Wow you really need to learn how to search/read all the answers you need are there. Or better yet just don't bother cause it sounds like your just doing stuff for the sake of doing stuff
metalfan78 said:
How many threads are you going to start that ask the same question? This has been answered for you already. You updated, towelroot will no longer work for you, you need to root with cf-auto root using Odin. Knox will be tripped. You can try towelroot if you want.
There is no reason to make multiple threads for the same thing.
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But he can downgrade the kernel with Odin, towelroot then and re-upgrade the kernel afterwards.
As far as i know Odin still trips Knox, so i don't see a reason not to use towelroot if you upgrade the kernel afterwards.
tempest22 said:
I needed to unroot (originally Towelrooted) to get an update, now I'm wanting to root again. Is there any advantage to root with Odin instead of Towelroot? Has anybody found any security flaws or any other negative quality with Towelroot by now? Does Odin still trip Knox? Because Towelroot didn't trip mine. Is there anything that significantly makes Odin better to use? Thanks.
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Idi... um i mean users like you ought to be reprimanded severely when posting a question that many times cause you`re too lazy to search yourself.

[Q] Does Towelroot not work anymore? Why is my S5 not supported?

Galaxy S5, SM-G900F (I'm in Europe), Kernel is Jul 3 2014,
I used to have Towelroot. I unrooted, updated to my most current Android version (4.4.2), and since then Towelroot won't work to reroot (it says I'm not supported). Is this so for all others? Is there a way to properly have Towelroot root my device, or is Odin my only option now?
Thanks.
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tempest22 said:
Galaxy S5, SM-G900F (I'm in Europe), Kernel is Jul 3 2014,
I used to have Towelroot. I unrooted, updated to my most current Android version (4.4.2), and since then Towelroot won't work to reroot (it says I'm not supported). Is this so for all others? Is there a way to properly have Towelroot root my device, or is Odin my only option now?
Thanks.
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Use the search engine and you will find answers to those questions
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fffft said:
Asked and answered many times. Read a few posts in the forum, do a search or look in my post history for all of the details.
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sigh...look, I only wish to know whether Towelroot is dead and/or what I can do to make it work on my S5. I can't look through thousands of ultra specific threads. I'm not a phone guy. Someone just give me a straight answer and I'm happy. Please. You guys are the experts, I'm not.
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Christ the writing in this thread, just answer him for crying out loud. @tempest22 you've answered your own question, you updated. Towel root doesn't work on the newest firmware, downgrade using Odin to an earlier build then use towel root, use neatroms method to install a recovery and flash a ROM , you'll need to use mobile Odin to flash the modem and bootloader, or you may even be able to do it via recovery if you're on a high enough ROM version, there are other ways to root and install a custom rom. If its just root access you need then downgrade then use towel root..always use a method which retains your Knox 0x0 status.
dladz said:
Christ the writing in this thread, just answer him for crying out loud. @tempest22 you've answered your own question, you updated. Towel root doesn't work on the newest firmware, downgrade using Odin to an earlier build then use towel root, use neatroms method to install a recovery and flash a ROM , you'll need to use mobile Odin to flash the modem and bootloader, or you may even be able to do it via recovery if you're on a high enough ROM version, there are other ways to root and install a custom rom. If its just root access you need then downgrade then use towel root..always use a method which retains your Knox 0x0 status.
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Thank you so much man, seriously. I really just need root access, so if Towelroot doesn't work anymore I guess I'll just use Odin knowing it will trip Knox. Apart from voiding the warranty it doesn't do anything else right? Any reason to keep Knox? I'd rather keep the most recent firmware, so no downgrade for me.
I don't think flashing a ROM via odin makes you lose your warranty, flashing a custom recovery would, bootloader, modem. But not the entire official TAR file. So you won't have anything to worry about. If it were me id do everything I can to retain my warranty, chances are Knox will never be fixed, so if you trip it then it'll stay that way. There is a guide once you're rooted in neat ROMs thread, its straight forward, just download everything you need, get Odin ready and follow the guide. Should be a walk in the park.
Good luck m8
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tempest22 said:
Thank you so much man, seriously. I really just need root access, so if Towelroot doesn't work anymore I guess I'll just use Odin knowing it will trip Knox. Apart from voiding the warranty it doesn't do anything else right? Any reason to keep Knox? I'd rather keep the most recent firmware, so no downgrade for me.
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Not disregarding other replies " But", if your not concerned about warranty, and your work doesn't require your phone to have Knox security enabled, Root and flash to your hearts content. Again.... If warranty, is Not a concern, go for it, because trying to maintain Knox 0x0, makes things more complicated than they need to be, nor do you get to try all options at your disposal , and really if you weren't a little bit of a risk taker you would not even know what XDA does.(Odin away, lol) Again just my opinion and if it offends, disregard.
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[Q] Proper Rooting and SafeStrap Process NC4

Okay so I've been browsing through the forums and been reading up on this phone (even contacted Samsung about info on unlocking the bootloader, no go on that. Had to try though)
Basically I want to know what's the proper procedure for installing custom roms on an NC4 device 4.4.2
Things I know:
Bootloader is unlockable at the moment (hoping for some good news in the future)
Towelroot for rooting
Safestrap for recovery
(Both just download and install the apk)
Things I don't know:
Kernel?
Somebody said I had to flash the NC2 kernel via Odin?
Knox?
What is this? What trips it?
I did see the list of guides and I did read and watch all the necessary ones, but the date on those are from 2 years ago and I just need confirmation on if I'm going about this right.
Any help is appreciated. I thank you in advance for taking the time to read this.
Please excuse my lack of knowledge, this is my first Samsung device.
Also, what would happen if somebody were to flash the DE stock files via Odin to a Retail N3?
If you upgraded to NC4 or NK1, you're stuck until Samsung unlocks the bootloader or Verizon stops lying to their customers. There is no root available after upgrade at this moment in time.
Dravekx said:
If you upgraded to NC4 or NK1, you're stuck until Samsung unlocks the bootloader or Verizon stops lying to their customers. There is no root available after upgrade at this moment in time.
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I didn't upgrade to NC4, it came like this.
rdar_93 said:
I didn't upgrade to NC4, it came like this.
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That sucks. You can't do anything about it at the moment. I was forced to upgrade and lost root. Custom ROMs won't be available to you or me until someone finds a hole to unlock the bootloader. Welcome to our Verizon Note 3 rooting dilemma.
mirrin said:
You do not have a dev version so cm 11 or 12 is a far off dream you won't get. Your bootloader is locked there is no unlock.
You are in luck nc4 is root able using towel root then safe strap and the unified firmware. You will need odin and a pc for flashing a few things the NK1 modem towel root and the unified firmware. Pick a rom from the development thread i suggest jasmine 1.x or eclipse.
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Copied from another post I had.
I don't know much about the device which is why I'm trying to find out.
Dravekx said:
That sucks. You can't do anything about it at the moment. I was forced to upgrade and lost root. Custom ROMs won't be available to you or me until someone finds a hole to unlock the bootloader. Welcome to our Verizon Note 3 rooting dilemma.
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I actually just got root on my phone, I felt adventurous and installed towelroot and voila it rooted my phone.
I should state that I'm on 4.4.2, not 4.4.4.
Checked root status with Titanium Backup Pro, everything checked out a-okay.
rdar_93 said:
Okay so I've been browsing through the forums and been reading up on this phone (even contacted Samsung about info on unlocking the bootloader, no go on that. Had to try though)
Basically I want to know what's the proper procedure for installing custom roms on an NC4 device 4.4.2
Things I know:
Bootloader is unlockable at the moment (hoping for some good news in the future)
Towelroot for rooting
Safestrap for recovery
(Both just download and install the apk)
Things I don't know:
Kernel?
Somebody said I had to flash the NC2 kernel via Odin?
Knox?
What is this? What trips it?
I did see the list of guides and I did read and watch all the necessary ones, but the date on those are from 2 years ago and I just need confirmation on if I'm going about this right.
Any help is appreciated. I thank you in advance for taking the time to read this.
Please excuse my lack of knowledge, this is my first Samsung device.
Also, what would happen if somebody were to flash the DE stock files via Odin to a Retail N3?
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Ahhhh... You're good to go then! Find a good custom ROM and follow the instructions. Whatever you do.. Don't upgrade!
rdar_93 said:
I actually just got root on my phone, I felt adventurous and installed towelroot and voila it rooted my phone.
I should state that I'm on 4.4.2, not 4.4.4.
Checked root status with Titanium Backup Pro, everything checked out a-okay.
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Dravekx said:
Ahhhh... You're good to go then! Find a good custom ROM and follow the instructions. Whatever you do.. Don't upgrade!
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Lol I still need clarification on the Kernel information that I don't know about.
What do I need to flash?
Do I flash it after I install a custom rom or before?
rdar_93 said:
Lol I still need clarification on the Kernel information that I don't know about.
What do I need to flash?
Do I flash it after I install a custom rom or before?
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My opinion: If you're doing a custom kernel, make sure it works with whatever ROM you're flashing. I suggest sticking with the stock kernel* until you get the hang of things OR do a little research and learn a bit before you attempt anything. There's a lot of forums with details and help here. I've installed kernels before and after installing ROMs with little or zero problems, but I'm more of a dabbler than a professional.
I would suggest backing up your current setup in case you need to reflash. That's a definite.
Dravekx said:
My opinion: If you're doing a custom kernel, make sure it works with whatever ROM you're flashing. I suggest sticking with the stock kernel* until you get the hang of things OR do a little research and learn a bit before you attempt anything. There's a lot of forums with details and help here. I've installed kernels before and after installing ROMs with little or zero problems, but I'm more of a dabbler than a professional.
I would suggest backing up your current setup in case you need to reflash. That's a definite.
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Lol that doesn't really answer the question. I hope somebody sees it and clears it up for me
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Lol that doesn't really answer the question. I hope somebody sees it and clears it up for me
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The kernel can't be changed...although it can be "tuned" if you have root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=58813428
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Still hoping somebody helps me out and posts a short but precise guide to install a custom rom on 4.4.2 NC4
I don't want to end up bricking my device on the first try. I've been there already and it sucks lol
rdar_93 said:
Still hoping somebody helps me out and posts a short but precise guide to install a custom rom on 4.4.2 NC4
I don't want to end up bricking my device on the first try. I've been there already and it sucks lol
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It really depends on the ROM, there is no set guide for all ROMs.
Did you install busybox? I like using busybox on rails. Just download the app and click install.
Download the safestrap apk (3.75 B04) and install that, open it and install recovery.
I'm currently running Clean ROM. I am on NC4. I downloaded the rom, and moved it to my SD card. I rebooted to safestrap, wiped data, cache and dalvik then installed the ROM to the stock slot. Then, following the instructions for Clean ROM, I rebooted to download mode from recovery and flashed the NC2 Kernel with odin.
The main thing is to read the installation instructions for the particular ROM you want to flash.
Don't forget to use Titanium backup to freeze SDM app (I think that's what its called) so your phone will stop trying to update.
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rdar_93 said:
Still hoping somebody helps me out and posts a short but precise guide to install a custom rom on 4.4.2 NC4
I don't want to end up bricking my device on the first try. I've been there already and it sucks lol
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If you're at all proficient with Odin it is really REALLY hard to brick these phones.
BladeRunner said:
It really depends on the ROM, there is no set guide for all ROMs.
Did you install busybox? I like using busybox on rails. Just download the app and click install.
Download the safestrap apk (3.75 B04) and install that, open it and install recovery.
I'm currently running Clean ROM. I am on NC4. I downloaded the rom, and moved it to my SD card. I rebooted to safestrap, wiped data, cache and dalvik then installed the ROM to the stock slot. Then, following the instructions for Clean ROM, I rebooted to download mode from recovery and flashed the NC2 Kernel with odin.
The main thing is to read the installation instructions for the particular ROM you want to flash.
Don't forget to use Titanium backup to freeze SDM app (I think that's what its called) so your phone will stop trying to update.
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If you're at all proficient with Odin it is really REALLY hard to brick these phones.
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Thanks man, I was supposed to update this thread saying that I got through with the proper procedure for installing Jasmine Rom
Although I was running Eclipse before, and I wanted to try going back to stock but it just got stuck on the Verizon splash screen
I'm thinking it's because I had the NC2 kernel active when I should have gone back to the NC4 kernel
I looked for a NC4 kernel to flash but I only saw the modems and tar files, so not knowing if those were the same as kernels I decided to just try Jasmine. So far, I like it.
I have crazy battery drain though. I think it's because I'm running it in Slot 1
just picked up a verizon note 3 android 4.4.2 NC4
one of the very first posts above says you cant do anything on NC4 and then another post says NC4 is ok but just not android 4.4.4
NC4 is the latest update as of this writing isnt it?
what can actually be done with this vzw note 3 on android 4.4.2 NC4?
non dev edition of course
what about knox?
if rooting can be done with this phone on this OS is there any safe way not to trip knox?
en11gma said:
just picked up a verizon note 3 android 4.4.2 NC4
one of the very first posts above says you cant do anything on NC4 and then another post says NC4 is ok but just not android 4.4.4
NC4 is the latest update as of this writing isnt it?
what can actually be done with this vzw note 3 on android 4.4.2 NC4?
non dev edition of course
what about knox?
if rooting can be done with this phone on this OS is there any safe way not to trip knox?
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I'd be happy to answer your questions
If you have an NC4 device that's running 4.4.2, you are able to gain root access and install safestrap recovery on your device. However, if the android version is 4.4.4, you cannot root or install safestrap.
NC4 is just our last build number, but there are two versions I think, the 4.4.2 and the 4.4.4. In the 4.4.4, they blacklisted every single compatible kernel that could work on the device. They forgot to do it in the 4.4.2 version, that's why we're able to gain root.
On our NC4 4.4.2 Verizon Note 3, we can root, install safestrap recovery and install a very limited amount of roms from the non developer edition selection on the XDA forums.
Rooting via towelroot, to my knowledge, does not trip knox. However, installing safestrap recovery does. But if you're worried about your warranty being voided, I wouldn't panic too much because with our bootloader being locked, it is very easy to flash the original Stock Verizon files through Odin to go straight back to factory settings so it looks like if you just pulled it out the box. The knox code would be reset and you would have a device that looked like if it has never been rooted or modified.
rdar_93 said:
I'd be happy to answer your questions
If you have an NC4 device that's running 4.4.2, you are able to gain root access and install safestrap recovery on your device. However, if the android version is 4.4.4, you cannot root or install safestrap.
NC4 is just our last build number, but there are two versions I think, the 4.4.2 and the 4.4.4. In the 4.4.4, they blacklisted every single compatible kernel that could work on the device. They forgot to do it in the 4.4.2 version, that's why we're able to gain root.
On our NC4 4.4.2 Verizon Note 3, we can root, install safestrap recovery and install a very limited amount of roms from the non developer edition selection on the XDA forums.
Rooting via towelroot, to my knowledge, does not trip knox. However, installing safestrap recovery does. But if you're worried about your warranty being voided, I wouldn't panic too much because with our bootloader being locked, it is very easy to flash the original Stock Verizon files through Odin to go straight back to factory settings so it looks like if you just pulled it out the box. The knox code would be reset and you would have a device that looked like if it has never been rooted or modified.
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Safestrap does not trip knox.
mjh68 said:
Safestrap does not trip knox.
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Thanks. I must have tripped mine somehow cause my device says "custom" when booting.
I'm guessing it might be Xposed but I'm not too sure.
rdar_93 said:
Thanks. I must have tripped mine somehow cause my device says "custom" when booting.
I'm guessing it might be Xposed but I'm not too sure.
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It will say custom, but that isn't tripping knox. Custom can be removed with the triangle away app. Custom just gets flagged like you were saying by changing the recovery , but it doesn't trip the knox counter.
mjh68 said:
It will say custom, but that isn't tripping knox. Custom can be removed with the triangle away app. Custom just gets flagged like you were saying by changing the recovery , but it doesn't trip the knox counter.
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Then I must be confused about what knox really is.
What is "Knox" then?

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