Hi guys,
Now that the stock ROM has been around for a week, I was curious if someone made the switch from CM12 or any other custom lollipop ROM to stock and would like to share their experience?
I, for instance, switched from CM11 (4.4.4) to stock and found the battery drain worse than in kitkat. Customization is also a clear drawback on stock lollipop since Xposed modules are not ported yet. Would like to know if any custom ROM matches the stability of stock and goes beyond it's features :what:
I don't usually use GPE or CM roms but I'm really really liking JFLTE-GPE 5.0.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2557353.
I've using it for a week and been having great battery. Last night I just installed Xposed alpha for Lollipop with GravityBox[LP} with no issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3034811
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.ceco.lollipop.gravitybox
Using the same GPE rom as posted above for about 3 months. No problems.
It also has good battery life. If you let the phone idle, it will last you around 2 weeks
That's what the battery stats reported this morning.
I used CM11 for a long time, (since it was released till now), and I have to say, I'm a fan of being technical updated. ATM I'm using the Stock 5.0.1 Samsung Lollipop (of course, with removed Bloatware), and I'm afraid. I like the Samsung UI für the Stock, thats a little reason for me to use the Stock-ROMs. I don't have any Battery issues or find it worse than CM11. And even if, I've got my JBL Charge and Charge 2 to charge my phone in city. haha.
Well, i like them both but for now, I prefer Stock 5.0.1 (and can't wait for 5.0.2/5.1.0). Maybe i change back to CM12 (Antares/Alucard) when they made a 5.1.0 Update (forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/i9505-orig-develop/rom-cyanogenmod-12-t2943934).
I too used CM11 for a while on my i9505 and I loved the customization freedom. But I was pretty miserable about the battery life and overheating issues. Also, the stock camera was MUCH MUCH better than the one on CM 11 or even the Google Cam.
I am now back to stock with 5.0.1 and the battery life and camera have revived. But I equally miss the customization, so was wondering if anyone would recommend a custom ROM over stock.
I just went through an ordeal all for Viper4Android. Tried various kernel work arounds on stock 5.0.1 to get the V4A driver to install (no luck). Flashed to CM 12.1 and thought I was set only to find that cellular service (no sim card) didn't work. Flashed back to CM 11 and had the same issue. Then tried a ROM call Triforce and bricked my phone. Ended up doing a factory reset/wipe back to Lollipop 5.0.1 and now everything works again, but I'm not happy with the sound quality I'm getting now vs what I had with V4A under Kitkat. Wish I'd have never upgraded. V4A was wonderful. Anyway, CM 12.1 seemed to be pretty good for the short time I had it.
Part of me wants to try CM again but I don't want to go through all the problems.
Viper4Android needs a permissive kernel to work. If SELinux status is Enforcing then it won't work. Generally custom kernels have it set to permissive.
GDReaper said:
Viper4Android needs a permissive kernel to work. If SELinux status is Enforcing then it won't work. Generally custom kernels have it set to permissive.
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You are correct. The stock Lollipop kernel would never change to permissive no matter what the SELinux setting was. Very frustrating. Only solution that I could find was kernel replacement via a different ROM. Didn't quite work out though due to the cellular network loss.
Edit: back on topic, I made the switch but only out of necessity and not desire.
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I'm kinda lost here. I'm looking to buy a D800, but wanted to know if root and leave the phone free to install aosp roms like CM11 will be possible and not complicated as hell. Wich are the steps I should follow to root / unlock, install twrp, and backup the original rom? (To later install CM11)...
Please any advice, links, etc will be greatly appreciated. Cheers!
The phone itself is good but the stock software is annoying. There are stable aosp roms available, but they have all very bad Cameras and inferior battery life. So basically most people would be forced to use the crappy lg stock rom anyway. Rooting is very easy as well as recovery
Oh that's bad news... had the idea to flash it with CM11 (while 12 is under development), or G3 roms, some people had told me this phone were good with AOSP roms... It's only the camera that does not work as intended on aosp roms? No fix for battery?
FedericoUY said:
Oh that's bad news... had the idea to flash it with CM11 (while 12 is under development), or G3 roms, some people had told me this phone were good with AOSP roms... It's only the camera that does not work as intended on aosp roms? No fix for battery?
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I have D800 and it really isn't as bad as people make it out to be. I can get 12 hours of usage on CM11 with 4-5 hours of screen time. Stock Rom is fine but then again I use the T-Mobile stock Rom on mine when I'm stock or CloudyG3 Rom. Right now I'm using Flyme OS Rom and I started this morning at 45% and was at 7% after 12 hours of work and had 4 hours of screen time.
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I have D800 and it really isn't as bad as people make it out to be. I can get 12 hours of usage on CM11 with 4-5 hours of screen time. Stock Rom is fine but then again I use the T-Mobile stock Rom on mine when I'm stock or CloudyG3 Rom. Right now I'm using Flyme OS Rom and I started this morning at 45% and was at 7% after 12 hours of work and had 4 hours of screen time.
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Yes I'm about to purchase a d800, if it is good with CM11, then its good for me. Maybe later it will have lollipop roms and that will be another era... Thanks for the answers! Cheers.
Hey FedericoUY, I received my phone about a month ago and I'll go through my journey from all of the likely problems and what's required for unlocking, rooting, installing a rom for the first time on this device. I'll describe the benefits/disadvantages from the different rom distributors recommended for this device. Until a few days ago I would have agreed AOSP was better left avoided on this device, and why CM11 is still not recommended for the G2.
When I received my G2, while I had the intention to flash it. I was gravely disappointed with it, because of the shocking software and default setup. But it's become my favourite phone since. I too thought CM11 would do it for me, it really didn't on this phone. And the display & specs make it seem extremely outdated, not to mention none of the phone-specific features really worked.
(In order of events)
Sim Locking for AT&T (do first)
By default it's locked, as I imported it through the US and without an account for them I had to purchase a 3rd party unlock code for $2. Strangely I had to keep it unlocked on the stock firmware for a certain amount of time (tried a day) before it remembered the unlocking when flashing a custom firmware.
Rooting (do secondly)
The only method which worked on the latest G2 stock rom was to use "Stump Root" in the "Brute force" mode as the latest rom version didn't have a pre-configured rooting routing.
Installing a custom recovery (do third)
The only method which worked on the latest G2 stock rom was an app called "D800_AutoRec.apk" which just installed the latest TWRP recovery, from there I could flash anything.
Which roms are decent for the D800?
While personally I've stayed with more AOSP roms like CM and AOKP, the best rom & kernel to use in terms of performance/battery life and phone specific features is not the stock G2 software nor AOSP. I'll explain further why.
For the kernel, the arguably most matured and feature rich, battery friendly and performance suited kernel is the Dorimanx kernel. Which is unfortunately only compatible with stock G2 & G3 roms.
With this in consideration and all of the improvements in the G3 firmware, fully supporting this phone's features, makes the G3 roms peoples choice, in particular CloudyG3 targeted for the G2.
When it comes to AOSP like roms, there is two okay kernels which are compatible with CM and the other is only compatible with AOSP roms, with a few exceptions. Both of these kernels have poor battery life in comparison and produce a lot of heat, not to mention lesser abilities in terms of tweaking (overclocking, underclocking rate, faster charge, etc). It generally only gets worse from here using rom released kernels. It's fairly uncommon for features such as double tapping wake to work, and the lack of on-screen keyboard usability improvements.
However, Lollipop has turned things around. While not flossing as much battery life savings as CloudyG3 with the Dorimanx kernel, performance, design/look (can change Google keyboard to old theme) has brilliantly increased. It's been the only close to stock rom I've ever been largely happy with. Despite not having any real CM features and a few bugs at this moment in time.
Therefore, if you like the ability to tweak and charge faster and overclock a lot with great battery life I suggest CloudyG3 and Dorimanx. If you want an AOSP rom, I'd use Lollipop. If you want a full featured stock rom with a nice kernel, I'd wait awhile and opt for CloudyG3 until lollipop roms mature. For a battery comparison, the stock G3 rom with a custom kernel lasted me 5-7 days without charging, with CM11 I can only get about 1 day if I'm lucky.
Hi.
Do you have a suggestion for a Custom ROM which has:
Xposed compatible (means Android 4.4.4, not 5)
No Call issues (because of that I went away from Cm11)
good customizability (like CM) stability, battery, etc.
Because of the call issues I had to delete CM11.
So far the best Kernel/ROM combo I've had on 4.4.4 without any call issues was OmniROM and Unleashed 98
Enjoy
Beans
nadastry said:
Hi.
Do you have a suggestion for a Custom ROM which has:
Xposed compatible (means Android 4.4.4, not 5)
No Call issues (because of that I went away from Cm11)
good customizability (like CM) stability, battery, etc.
Because of the call issues I had to delete CM11.
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I recommend AICP http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/orig-development/rom-aicp-4-0-kk-4-4-2r2-mako-t2632777
I used this for about 9 months before the Lollipop version was released, rock solid. The stock kernel is fine, though you could also use the hellscore kernel.
After 3 months on Lollipop, I wouldn't return to KK I find it much smoother and faster, and plenty of tweaks are now incorporated into most ROMs
nadastry said:
Hi.
Do you have a suggestion for a Custom ROM which has:
Xposed compatible (means Android 4.4.4, not 5)
No Call issues (because of that I went away from Cm11)
good customizability (like CM) stability, battery, etc.
Because of the call issues I had to delete CM11.
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Have you considered re-flashing the Stock Factory Image and then rooting + installing Xposed Framework on top in order to get the features/customizations that you want?
I'm not an Xposed expert, but your customization needs don't sound too complex. The Gravity Box module has a lot of really cool features that you can add, and that's just one module.
I dont think I want a stock ROM. I am too into Customrom to do this.
Someone told me Slimrom would be good.
Is this without call troubles?
Hi,
I'm interested in getting a ROM for my Canadian Note 3 N900W8. My friend only pointed me to the Cyanogenmod website and I have no idea which rom to get. I'm looking in the HLTE section. I see nightlies with a risk that they may be unstable but under stable or milestone, there are no roms to download, and the only other option is snapshot. I've already rooted my note 3, and I'm mainly interested in getting the the GPS working with the note 3.
Any recommendations?
Thanks
conan48 said:
Hi,
I'm interested in getting a ROM for my Canadian Note 3 N900W8. My friend only pointed me to the Cyanogenmod website and I have no idea which rom to get. I'm looking in the HLTE section. I see nightlies with a risk that they may be unstable but under stable or milestone, there are no roms to download, and the only other option is snapshot. I've already rooted my note 3, and I'm mainly interested in getting the the GPS working with the note 3.
Any recommendations?
Thanks
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I use cm12.1 by temasek. Great rom. Nothing is bugfree now days but for me it works far more stable than stock rom. You can try.
Where can i get cm 12.1 (lollipop) for my note 3 sm-n900w8 hltecan, can anybody help me?
Hey! I was just going to post a question about the GPS issues I've been having with TW custom lollipop ROMS. I've tried s6 ports, note 4 ports , edge ports and all of them seem to have GPS issues. I downloaded GPS test and could never get a fix on my location . I figured it was a ROM issue so I went from ROM to ROM until I found xposed deathnote ROM for n900w8 which after flashing would acquire a signal right away . After restoring all my apps I went to flash a custom kernel so I could flash Viper and this is where I found the issue. As soon as I rebooted I lost my GPS so I started flashing kernels and finally found fulgor which not only fixed my GPS issues but is compatible with Viper.
I'm not sure if it's a bug or just the custom kernels not being compatible with n900w8 hardware but the fulgor kernel has been the only one that works.
FYI I had to re flash DOC firmware for my GPS to work . Before that didn't matter what kernel I used I had no lock on my location .
Also if I did a clean install no titanium backup restore my GPS did work with those other ports. I'm not sure if it's a combo of flashing xposed , custom kernel and restoring that was causing my GPS issues. .
Sorry I couldn't provide you with a definite reason why our n900w8 are having these GPS issues, maybe someone with more knowledge can chime in.
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Hey! I was just going to post a question about the GPS issues I've been having with TW custom lollipop ROMS. I've tried s6 ports, note 4 ports , edge ports and all of them seem to have GPS issues. I downloaded GPS test and could never get a fix on my location . I figured it was a ROM issue so I went from ROM to ROM until I found xposed deathnote ROM for n900w8 which after flashing would acquire a signal right away . After restoring all my apps I went to flash a custom kernel so I could flash Viper and this is where I found the issue. As soon as I rebooted I lost my GPS so I started flashing kernels and finally found fulgor which not only fixed my GPS issues but is compatible with Viper.
I'm not sure if it's a bug or just the custom kernels not being compatible with n900w8 hardware but the fulgor kernel has been the only one that works.
FYI I had to re flash DOC firmware for my GPS to work . Before that didn't matter what kernel I used I had no lock on my location .
Also if I did a clean install no titanium backup restore my GPS did work with those other ports. I'm not sure if it's a combo of flashing xposed , custom kernel and restoring that was causing my GPS issues. .
Sorry I couldn't provide you with a definite reason why our n900w8 are having these GPS issues, maybe someone with more knowledge can chime in.
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Thanks a ton! I've been using XDA for years, rooted/modded an S2, Note 10.1 2014 and my daily driver n900w8. Like how nice and easy CM is great I can do it on an old S2. Still battle with GPS, the unified daemon, etc., but generally sticking with Lollipop. I was considering the Deathnote ROM, but I've never seen the fulgor kernel suggestion before. Will have to check it out. CM 12.1 had much better cell signal and performance, but some other stability issues. Always a trade off!
Do you notice better battery life when the GPS lock works? Still have working NFC with deathnote? Seems like some hit and miss for people. Thanks!
Garrett1972 said:
Thanks a ton! I've been using XDA for years, rooted/modded an S2, Note 10.1 2014 and my daily driver n900w8. Like how nice and easy CM is great I can do it on an old S2. Still battle with GPS, the unified daemon, etc., but generally sticking with Lollipop. I was considering the Deathnote ROM, but I've never seen the fulgor kernel suggestion before. Will have to check it out. CM 12.1 had much better cell signal and performance, but some other stability issues. Always a trade off!
Do you notice better battery life when the GPS lock works? Still have working NFC with deathnote? Seems like some hit and miss for people. Thanks!
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This is the ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3117018
(Xposed) DeathNote Rom Based On darklord for N900W8
My battery is always horrible when in use but great when it's in standby so can't really say. As far as I have tried no LP rom has a working NFC for N900W8 until Samsung releases our kernel source code (someone correct me if I'm wrong?) The developer for the Fulgor kernel has stopped development and is focused on audax kernel so not sure if fulgor will give you the best results. I'm too scared to start flashing kernels again since I have my phone set up perfectly which took me hours of restoring and tweaking lol.. gl
imsiin said:
This is the ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3117018
(Xposed) DeathNote Rom Based On darklord for N900W8
My battery is always horrible when in use but great when it's in standby so can't really say. As far as I have tried no LP rom has a working NFC for N900W8 until Samsung releases our kernel source code (someone correct me if I'm wrong?) The developer for the Fulgor kernel has stopped development and is focused on audax kernel so not sure if fulgor will give you the best results. I'm too scared to start flashing kernels again since I have my phone set up perfectly which took me hours of restoring and tweaking lol.. gl
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This is one I've been eyeing. Just haven't jumped in yet. Back on stock 5.0.1 when I had a problem flashing a different ROM.
Oddly the stock ROM battery seems to have improved in the last week or so. Standby is also great.
Before that CM 12.1 was better until I got too many stability issues and crashes...
May try it this weekend. Don't use NFC much but would like to implement NFC tags, which is why I'm holding back too.
Sent from my SM-N900W8 using Tapatalk
So is there any rom (I think stock based would be my best bet) that has no important bugs? Or should I just flash a custom kernel on a stock firmware?
No there is no such perfect custom rom due to some technical limitations.
Try stable ROMS, there is more probability you find everything working there. I suggest you Resurrection Remix for personalization and CM 12.1 for stability. Btw is your choice, choose the one suits you best.
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So is there any rom (I think stock based would be my best bet) that has no important bugs? Or should I just flash a custom kernel on a stock firmware?
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as you said the stock based is your best bet but for me i use s5 mini rom it has everything working exept NFC because s5 mini does not have that feature
This rom has probably less bugs than the rest http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3-neo/development/rom-galaxy-s3-neo-stock-firmware-t2975102
Best is cm11 with sev3n kernel. 6h of screen good camera(cm12 is a joke), radio and everything. No bugs no lags and finally a decent phone. If you want lollipop flavour install cm11 ideal theme from store. It looks the same. After trying almost everything it,s my choice.
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Best is cm11 with sev3n kernel. 6h of screen good camera(cm12 is a joke), radio and everything. No bugs no lags and finally a decent phone. If you want lollipop flavour install cm11 ideal theme from store. It looks the same. After trying almost everything it,s my choice.
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Offline chaning work? Battery idle 7 day work? Thank you.
(SORRY BAD MY ENGLISH 50%)
Yes offline charging works and in cm12 also works. Only cm12.1 has that bug. Try kang cm 12.1 after flashing perharps 10 roms is now my favourite . Well i miss cm11 Camera but you can't have everything, i'm a little tired of KitKat and since yesterday we hace a good lollipop ROM with a good tweaked kernel and almost free of bugs.
I am using stock firmware 4.4.2 with xposed and some modifications. It is good and now i am going to try any custom kernel. For me, custom roms are useless especially those CM based.
Hey guys,
after trying many marshmallow and nougat roms and kernal combinations I think I may go back to a Lollipop rom. I just have not found anything that gives me a well rounded experience (gps, bluetooth and decent battery life are the deal breakers for me). Yes I know I could go back to stock and root and debloat but I just don't like touchwiz.
What rom/kernal combinations would you all recommend for Lollipop ? Would this be a wise choice security wise ?
Also, I would even go as far back to KitKat if there weren't the security issues. KitKat had some of the most stable roms I've ever used, especially on my old note 2 lol I miss using that thing sometimes.
Any help would be much appreciated !
Thanks!
I guess no recommendations ?
Anyway, I ended up trying Temasek Unofficial 12.1 again, Team Exodus's rom and ulimately settling for the last Official CM12 Nightly (20161016). I tried all 3 of these with the latest Idle Kernal
Temasek seem's to work for a lot of people but I always end up with a lot of issues with it especially in battery.
The Team Exodus rom was very promising and I wish they had of not stopped working on it. Bluetooth, GPS etc. working flawlessly. But battery life just wasn't good.
CM12 has been great. I have not had a hitch with it and everything seems to be working and I'm getting excellent battery life.
The most stable ROM for the phone will be a stock ROM. You can easily root a stock ROM to remove bloatware too.
rich6619 said:
I guess no recommendations ?
Anyway, I ended up trying Temasek Unofficial 12.1 again, Team Exodus's rom and ulimately settling for the last Official CM12 Nightly (20161016). I tried all 3 of these with the latest Idle Kernal
Temasek seem's to work for a lot of people but I always end up with a lot of issues with it especially in battery.
The Team Exodus rom was very promising and I wish they had of not stopped working on it. Bluetooth, GPS etc. working flawlessly. But battery life just wasn't good.
CM12 has been great. I have not had a hitch with it and everything seems to be working and I'm getting excellent battery life.
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If you want to go back to lollipop, then I recommend you few things:
Touchwiz Based Lollipop ROMs:
1)Aryamod Lollipop ROM
CM Based Lollipop ROM:
Slimlp 0.14. Best AOSP ROM I had ever tried so far.