I'm kinda lost here. I'm looking to buy a D800, but wanted to know if root and leave the phone free to install aosp roms like CM11 will be possible and not complicated as hell. Wich are the steps I should follow to root / unlock, install twrp, and backup the original rom? (To later install CM11)...
Please any advice, links, etc will be greatly appreciated. Cheers!
The phone itself is good but the stock software is annoying. There are stable aosp roms available, but they have all very bad Cameras and inferior battery life. So basically most people would be forced to use the crappy lg stock rom anyway. Rooting is very easy as well as recovery
Oh that's bad news... had the idea to flash it with CM11 (while 12 is under development), or G3 roms, some people had told me this phone were good with AOSP roms... It's only the camera that does not work as intended on aosp roms? No fix for battery?
FedericoUY said:
Oh that's bad news... had the idea to flash it with CM11 (while 12 is under development), or G3 roms, some people had told me this phone were good with AOSP roms... It's only the camera that does not work as intended on aosp roms? No fix for battery?
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I have D800 and it really isn't as bad as people make it out to be. I can get 12 hours of usage on CM11 with 4-5 hours of screen time. Stock Rom is fine but then again I use the T-Mobile stock Rom on mine when I'm stock or CloudyG3 Rom. Right now I'm using Flyme OS Rom and I started this morning at 45% and was at 7% after 12 hours of work and had 4 hours of screen time.
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I have D800 and it really isn't as bad as people make it out to be. I can get 12 hours of usage on CM11 with 4-5 hours of screen time. Stock Rom is fine but then again I use the T-Mobile stock Rom on mine when I'm stock or CloudyG3 Rom. Right now I'm using Flyme OS Rom and I started this morning at 45% and was at 7% after 12 hours of work and had 4 hours of screen time.
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Yes I'm about to purchase a d800, if it is good with CM11, then its good for me. Maybe later it will have lollipop roms and that will be another era... Thanks for the answers! Cheers.
Hey FedericoUY, I received my phone about a month ago and I'll go through my journey from all of the likely problems and what's required for unlocking, rooting, installing a rom for the first time on this device. I'll describe the benefits/disadvantages from the different rom distributors recommended for this device. Until a few days ago I would have agreed AOSP was better left avoided on this device, and why CM11 is still not recommended for the G2.
When I received my G2, while I had the intention to flash it. I was gravely disappointed with it, because of the shocking software and default setup. But it's become my favourite phone since. I too thought CM11 would do it for me, it really didn't on this phone. And the display & specs make it seem extremely outdated, not to mention none of the phone-specific features really worked.
(In order of events)
Sim Locking for AT&T (do first)
By default it's locked, as I imported it through the US and without an account for them I had to purchase a 3rd party unlock code for $2. Strangely I had to keep it unlocked on the stock firmware for a certain amount of time (tried a day) before it remembered the unlocking when flashing a custom firmware.
Rooting (do secondly)
The only method which worked on the latest G2 stock rom was to use "Stump Root" in the "Brute force" mode as the latest rom version didn't have a pre-configured rooting routing.
Installing a custom recovery (do third)
The only method which worked on the latest G2 stock rom was an app called "D800_AutoRec.apk" which just installed the latest TWRP recovery, from there I could flash anything.
Which roms are decent for the D800?
While personally I've stayed with more AOSP roms like CM and AOKP, the best rom & kernel to use in terms of performance/battery life and phone specific features is not the stock G2 software nor AOSP. I'll explain further why.
For the kernel, the arguably most matured and feature rich, battery friendly and performance suited kernel is the Dorimanx kernel. Which is unfortunately only compatible with stock G2 & G3 roms.
With this in consideration and all of the improvements in the G3 firmware, fully supporting this phone's features, makes the G3 roms peoples choice, in particular CloudyG3 targeted for the G2.
When it comes to AOSP like roms, there is two okay kernels which are compatible with CM and the other is only compatible with AOSP roms, with a few exceptions. Both of these kernels have poor battery life in comparison and produce a lot of heat, not to mention lesser abilities in terms of tweaking (overclocking, underclocking rate, faster charge, etc). It generally only gets worse from here using rom released kernels. It's fairly uncommon for features such as double tapping wake to work, and the lack of on-screen keyboard usability improvements.
However, Lollipop has turned things around. While not flossing as much battery life savings as CloudyG3 with the Dorimanx kernel, performance, design/look (can change Google keyboard to old theme) has brilliantly increased. It's been the only close to stock rom I've ever been largely happy with. Despite not having any real CM features and a few bugs at this moment in time.
Therefore, if you like the ability to tweak and charge faster and overclock a lot with great battery life I suggest CloudyG3 and Dorimanx. If you want an AOSP rom, I'd use Lollipop. If you want a full featured stock rom with a nice kernel, I'd wait awhile and opt for CloudyG3 until lollipop roms mature. For a battery comparison, the stock G3 rom with a custom kernel lasted me 5-7 days without charging, with CM11 I can only get about 1 day if I'm lucky.
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Hi guys,
Now that the stock ROM has been around for a week, I was curious if someone made the switch from CM12 or any other custom lollipop ROM to stock and would like to share their experience?
I, for instance, switched from CM11 (4.4.4) to stock and found the battery drain worse than in kitkat. Customization is also a clear drawback on stock lollipop since Xposed modules are not ported yet. Would like to know if any custom ROM matches the stability of stock and goes beyond it's features :what:
I don't usually use GPE or CM roms but I'm really really liking JFLTE-GPE 5.0.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2557353.
I've using it for a week and been having great battery. Last night I just installed Xposed alpha for Lollipop with GravityBox[LP} with no issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3034811
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.ceco.lollipop.gravitybox
Using the same GPE rom as posted above for about 3 months. No problems.
It also has good battery life. If you let the phone idle, it will last you around 2 weeks
That's what the battery stats reported this morning.
I used CM11 for a long time, (since it was released till now), and I have to say, I'm a fan of being technical updated. ATM I'm using the Stock 5.0.1 Samsung Lollipop (of course, with removed Bloatware), and I'm afraid. I like the Samsung UI für the Stock, thats a little reason for me to use the Stock-ROMs. I don't have any Battery issues or find it worse than CM11. And even if, I've got my JBL Charge and Charge 2 to charge my phone in city. haha.
Well, i like them both but for now, I prefer Stock 5.0.1 (and can't wait for 5.0.2/5.1.0). Maybe i change back to CM12 (Antares/Alucard) when they made a 5.1.0 Update (forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/i9505-orig-develop/rom-cyanogenmod-12-t2943934).
I too used CM11 for a while on my i9505 and I loved the customization freedom. But I was pretty miserable about the battery life and overheating issues. Also, the stock camera was MUCH MUCH better than the one on CM 11 or even the Google Cam.
I am now back to stock with 5.0.1 and the battery life and camera have revived. But I equally miss the customization, so was wondering if anyone would recommend a custom ROM over stock.
I just went through an ordeal all for Viper4Android. Tried various kernel work arounds on stock 5.0.1 to get the V4A driver to install (no luck). Flashed to CM 12.1 and thought I was set only to find that cellular service (no sim card) didn't work. Flashed back to CM 11 and had the same issue. Then tried a ROM call Triforce and bricked my phone. Ended up doing a factory reset/wipe back to Lollipop 5.0.1 and now everything works again, but I'm not happy with the sound quality I'm getting now vs what I had with V4A under Kitkat. Wish I'd have never upgraded. V4A was wonderful. Anyway, CM 12.1 seemed to be pretty good for the short time I had it.
Part of me wants to try CM again but I don't want to go through all the problems.
Viper4Android needs a permissive kernel to work. If SELinux status is Enforcing then it won't work. Generally custom kernels have it set to permissive.
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Viper4Android needs a permissive kernel to work. If SELinux status is Enforcing then it won't work. Generally custom kernels have it set to permissive.
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You are correct. The stock Lollipop kernel would never change to permissive no matter what the SELinux setting was. Very frustrating. Only solution that I could find was kernel replacement via a different ROM. Didn't quite work out though due to the cellular network loss.
Edit: back on topic, I made the switch but only out of necessity and not desire.
Hello,
I haven't tried CM12.1 or other slim/resurection/ Dirty Unicorns roms because I would really miss stock apps from stock based roms.
So this is my question:
If I do love good picture quality and quickremote apk (and reliable bluetooth), can I still have them on non stock roms ? I would love to have a less battery eater rom but I am afraid of loosing these functionnalities.
Thanks all for your time
a flashcoolick
Tried some roms mate but believe me I'm still on 4.4.2 cloudystock, cloudy flex roms
That's due to :
Cyanogen won't support xdadebbs driver for camera
Battery life is still good on 5.1.1 but I think they having all those lg stock features and same or 1/2 hours more on cyanogen worths it
5.0.2 stock based updates made me furious due to many hangs and less battery life.
4.4.2 FTW
I have been using Inazuma and it's been great on my 802.
Hi All,
I have had my Galaxy S 4 (I9505) for a while now but it is still running android 4.3.
I was hoping to update it to 5.0.1 but when I plugged it into my PC, Kies said 'This device is unsupported'
I want to flash a new rom onto it (I have done this in the past with a samsung tablet)
I was just wanting some feedback as to what is regarded as a good rom for it these days. Should I go a standard stock rom from sammobile or are there custom roms out there that perform better?
Thanks for any help and advice.
Daniel
Custom roms give you more performance. Stock roms tend to lag here and there, from what I saw in rom reviews.
If you want a minimalist rom, go for CM12 or Slim roms. They have very few features.
If you want lots of features, go for AICP or Resurrection Remix. These two combine the most popular features from other roms (I personally use Resurrection Remix).
And there are the GPE roms. I don't know how GPE 5.1 is, but on 5.0 the rom was rock solid and everything worked.
I can't say anythinv about stock touchwiz because, since I changed I never went back
Spoorman88 said:
Hi All,
I have had my Galaxy S 4 (I9505) for a while now but it is still running android 4.3.
I was hoping to update it to 5.0.1 but when I plugged it into my PC, Kies said 'This device is unsupported'
I want to flash a new rom onto it (I have done this in the past with a samsung tablet)
I was just wanting some feedback as to what is regarded as a good rom for it these days. Should I go a standard stock rom from sammobile or are there custom roms out there that perform better?
Thanks for any help and advice.
Daniel
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Try a custom S6 Touchwiz ROM for your phone model - you'll be pleasantly surprised by the new look, feel and performance. I know I am!
I tried CM but not such a big fan... Experiment a bit until you find what you were ALWAYS looking for!
You try to consider CM 12.1 or GPE Roms. The major disadvantage is the camera quality and some multitasking features on TW, but it's hella fast and smooth.
Sent from my GT-I9505G
Roms
I would recommend Cyanogenmod but sometimes it comes with some problems. Check out first which is the stable version for s4.
Also, I would recommend the WickedRom which is great and great performance. And the WanamLite Rom is amazing if you would like to tune your mobile , for example gpu or cpu in higher frequencies or even set custom gestures and etc.( but remember to be careful with those why you might break your phone
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I was hoping to update it to 5.0.1 but when I plugged it into my PC, Kies said 'This device is unsupported'
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it's like you have already a custom rom, or a rooted & modified stock rom !.
Spoorman88 said:
I was just wanting some feedback as to what is regarded as a good rom for it these days. Should I go a standard stock rom from sammobile or are there custom roms out there that perform better?
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go for Resurrection Remix like said: GDReaper, or may be BlissPOP ( with terrible battery drain for me).
I tried just the straight CM 12 rom and it was okay, but once I put on the one of the Optimized CM 12.1 roms I got better battery life and faster performance, but also lost a few features, got a few bugs, but so far so good. It really depends what you want.
If you are willing to have a few crashes, bugs you can put on the newest rom builds, but if you want stable, then going for the older well established ones may be a better option.
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I tried just the straight CM 12 rom and it was okay, but once I put on the one of the Optimized CM 12.1 roms I got better battery life and faster performance, but also lost a few features, got a few bugs, but so far so good. It really depends what you want.
If you are willing to have a few crashes, bugs you can put on the newest rom builds, but if you want stable, then going for the older well established ones may be a better option.
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I have to correct you here buddy It's almost always better to pick the latest CM build. Because it's a work in progress, every new build has a lot fixes.
I'm curious though to what bugs you are referring to. I used it pretty long and I found it almost to be bugfree. Besides the obvious difficulty's with bluetooth.
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I have to correct you here buddy It's almost always better to pick the latest CM build. Because it's a work in progress, every new build has a lot fixes.
I'm curious though to what bugs you are referring to. I used it pretty long and I found it almost to be bugfree. Besides the obvious difficulty's with bluetooth.
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Hey Lenny, the official CM builds I have never had an issue with (except nightlies of course) however when we get into the custom ROM world such as Slimroms, modified CM builds etc I do tend to hit a few bugs, such as crashes of apps, however often those builds then become stable.
Hope that makes more sense?
The only good advice is to just use stock roms. It's stable, no bugs, no issues. The only thing that pisses you off is the laggggggg!
Im new at this phone and getting it today the d800 i have files already for CM13. Which one is more stable and can overclock without issues? Cloudy or MM?
Why do you want to overclock? CM13 is 100 times faster then any 5.0 stock rom, you don't need to overclock. But when using CM you should accept there are bugs and parts not working well. Camera is always best on stock! Sound in stock is better. But on CM13, GPS works well and my phone is as a brand new up to date fast phone. ALthough there are some bugs, it's stable as hell. Never had any hangup or reboot, using CM13's special build from Dr4xxxx (see the most thanked post in official CM13 thread) and Psychogames Kernel. Battery is the same for me.
It depands on you
Well I have tried both ....cloudy rom gives you the feel of LG g4 plus it is stock based rom so it will be bugs free... but it has a lot LG bloatwares which some people find them useful ..you can also install dorimanx kernel which can overclock both CPU and GPU (which for me it is note an important feature since it affects battery life and stability of our precious g2).
CM13 in the other hand is debloated rom with all new Marshmallow features with fast response and much more free ram...it has a few bugs but the developers all fixing it in a good time...I have installed it since last week from Cyanogenmod official site and tested intensively and the only bugs I have found so far are : the rear notification led is not working and the quality of the camera is fine but not as stock .....everything else is working great including the IR remote functions.
For me I have decided to keep using CM13 ?
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Im new at this phone and getting it today the d800 i have files already for CM13. Which one is more stable and can overclock without issues? Cloudy or MM?
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before doing anything else, make sure your phone is not refurbished. then proceed. if refurbished it could say d800 but be a ls980. so itll brick.
if you dont care about camera, slow motion, and 4k video. then go CM is faster.
camera in stock is better. but CM or AOSP have some bugs. when i tried them theres was hissing coming from speaker.
if you go th cloudy route, then i recomend
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cloudy. to me battery isnt good as others and its slower. besides the others are based on newer firmwares cloudy hasnt been updated.
Its been a long time since I've flashed anything on my pure ( I think it's on a slightly tweaked stock marshmallow rom now), and looking around I can't seem to find a recommended rom.
What would you all suggest as the current most stable and fully functional roms and tweaks that I should be looking for?
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Its been a long time since I've flashed anything on my pure ( I think it's on a slightly tweaked stock marshmallow rom now), and looking around I can't seem to find a recommended rom.
What would you all suggest as the current most stable and fully functional roms and tweaks that I should be looking for?
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I recommend updating to stock nougat and flashing the system with SuperSu for root. It's the most stable rom and I get a solid four hours of battery life. Lineage OS has bugs with sound and the audio effects aren't as good. Also Lineage OS has a battery profile I figured out that Stock has one like that but it functions dynamically as the battery life drops the clock speeds automatically reduce and cores turn off but on Lineage based roms if you leave it on balanced it'll drain the battery faster but if you put it on power save you'll struggle with lag and get the same battery life as stock. If you take my advice I don't recommend changing anything in the kernel except the I/0 schedular I set mine to ROW instead of CFQ and apps open faster. Another thing with stock roms don't try changing the partition format in TWRP that'll make it bootloop some people like to set their cache to f2fs and Magisk causes bootloops that's another issue with stock.
neofire4 said:
Its been a long time since I've flashed anything on my pure ( I think it's on a slightly tweaked stock marshmallow rom now), and looking around I can't seem to find a recommended rom.
What would you all suggest as the current most stable and fully functional roms and tweaks that I should be looking for?
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I tried everything, but pretty much exclusively used AICP when I had this phone
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I tried everything, but pretty much exclusively used AICP when I had this phone
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Is that Android Ice Cold Project? If so, after looking it up, only see for the Moto G5. Guess they stopped for the Moto X Pure?
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Is that Android Ice Cold Project? If so, after looking it up, only see for the Moto G5. Guess they stopped for the Moto X Pure?
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They haven't released anything new for the pure/style since nougat, and old builds have been shuffled off their website. Look at the last few pages of this thread. Some users mirrored the last builds after the downloads disappeared. https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/development/rom-aicp-clark-xt1575-t3222868
My pure died a little over a year ago, but at that time aicp was the best rom. The newer custom roms all seem to have some camera issues. The builds of aicp that are available do require the marshmallow modem stack.