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YAMAHA Codec - NO bad news after all ! (at least for me)

I am no developer, but I got good musical ears and some good hardware and software...Here under my last post on that other Yamaha dac thread:
betoNL said:
Ok people hereby my 2 cents.
Went back to the showrom this time armed with the Fiio E5 amplifier and my AKG K430 headphones (not in-ear).
Got very good results just by playing with the built-in equalizer of the STOCK music player !
No need for Poweramp or the Equalizer app...really
But if you guys do want a 3rd party music player with a built-in equalizer and more options I would rather go for Neutron or my favourite: Mixzing Player.
But the good news are that after so many tests (on my part) , I am convinced that the Yamaha codec is somehow better implemented on the Note.
And all I need is playing with the equalizer and replace the stock headset with a kickass one.
And you dont need to go bankrupt in order to purchase a real good headset:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1190205
Some nice tips over there and the thread got only 6 pages...
And if you want to to try to get even more from the Note, just get the Fiio amplifier...it's small( clipable) and unexpensive, around 14 euros:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FiiO-E5-HEA...ltDomain_0&hash=item484252e339#ht_2980wt_1014
What counts for me is that I dont hesitate anymore in purchasing the Note even after getting used with the sound of my sgs1 powered by Wolfson & Voodoo...
But....the Nexus Prime is just around the corner...hesitation is coming back to me........decisions. decisions
is bad news maybe only for the sgs2 owners but not for the Note ones
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Feel free to prove me wrong....I didnt order the Note yet .... Still gotta feel that nexus Prime.....
EDIT: 26-nov-2011:
If gsmarena is not reliable, let's try the Sweeds: Originally Posted by Fredag
Swedroid did a test on sound quality:
(To bad I can not post links yet, had to remove it)
They conclude the test by saying it's the best result they ever measured. It comes very close to their reference MP3 standalone player Sandisk Sansa+
They are a bit surprised to see it perform so much better than SGSII. I guess I am a bit surprised too...
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​Thanks for the info...Here is the link:
http://www.swedroid.se/test-av-samsung-galaxy-note/
And here the translation (sound part):
We connect a pair of better headphones, we note an audible difference for the better in comparison with the Samsung Galaxy S II. The whole record is perceived as wider and the music feels more alive, not to mention that we can play a lot higher than in most of our reference headphones. We certainly do not have a real audio file at the office, but this is probably the closest we have come for a while if we compare with a dedicated MP3 players such as Sandisk Sansa +. For those who are very keen on a good sound, we recommend as always that you take with your favorite headphones and a microSD card loaded with your favorite music to the store and perform a trial listening.
In this subsection we connect the phone to a 3.5mm stereo Y-adapter that we in turn connects to both line-in jack on an Audigy Xifias sound card in a computer behind a UPS and a pair of AKG 420 headphones ( 32 ohm, 125 dB / mW). We then play a sound clip that we, in turn, recording and analysis using software RightMark Audio Analyzer .
The graph above illustrates the frequency response that indicates with precision what sound frequencies represented - particularly interesting is the range from 20Hz to 20KHz, since human hearing stretches between these bands. The ideal curve is in this case completely flat and lies at +0 dB. Note Galaxy performs surprisingly, a result that is anything but especially like the Galaxy SII despite according to specification sheet is based on the same platform and therefore should have the same audio chip / DAC. In fact, the result is not far from what our reference unit, Sandisk Sansa +, performs for the figures.
The noise level is under RMAA at 89 dB, which is one of the best results we have measured up. The other part is looking very good with some reservation for stereo crosstalk / noise leaks left and right audio channel between; Note that lands on a last place. The value is so close to the other and still so low that in any case we do not experience any problems during the test listening to a pair of better headphones.​__________________
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Tip bout the Fiio already mentioned on first post...and you get it cheaper from Ebay
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Thanks...
And thanks for your headset tips on the other thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1190205

Hi
Please read these tests on the sound quality of the Note :
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_n7000-review-676p8.php
same as the SGS 2 so why do we (sgs 2 users) get such crap sound, it would they have improved the software... can this be ported to SGS 2?

BenG7 said:
same as the SGS 2 so why do we (sgs 2 users) get such crap sound, it would they have improved the software... can this be ported to SGS 2?
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It could be a better designed circuit than sgs2, therefore it's the hardware issue however I might be wrong.

BenG7 said:
Hi
Please read these tests on the sound quality of the Note :
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_n7000-review-676p8.php
same as the SGS 2 so why do we (sgs 2 users) get such crap sound, it would they have improved the software... can this be ported to SGS 2?
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When reading those tests I noticed:
betoNL said:
I dont know if those are improvements or not but all the values :
Frequency responseNoise levelDynamic rangeTHD IMD + NoiseStereo crosstalk
Are different from the sgs2 with the same Yamaha thing....
And today I took my headsets to the showroom again...and indeed the Note sounds way better than the sgs2.....almost as good as the sgs1 without Voodoo app......
Comparison tests applied with same songs and same settings from stock music player...
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Gonna add this to first post::
Originally Posted by Fredag
Swedroid did a test on sound quality:
(To bad I can not post links yet, had to remove it)
They conclude the test by saying it's the best result they ever measured. It comes very close to their reference MP3 standalone player Sandisk Sansa+
They are a bit surprised to see it perform so much better than SGSII. I guess I am a bit surprised too...
​Thanks for the info...Here is the link:
http://www.swedroid.se/test-av-samsung-galaxy-note/
And here the translation (sound part):
We connect a pair of better headphones, we note an audible difference for the better in comparison with the Samsung Galaxy S II. The whole record is perceived as wider and the music feels more alive, not to mention that we can play a lot higher than in most of our reference headphones. We certainly do not have a real audio file at the office, but this is probably the closest we have come for a while if we compare with a dedicated MP3 players such as Sandisk Sansa +. For those who are very keen on a good sound, we recommend as always that you take with your favorite headphones and a microSD card loaded with your favorite music to the store and perform a trial listening.
In this subsection we connect the phone to a 3.5mm stereo Y-adapter that we in turn connects to both line-in jack on an Audigy Xifias sound card in a computer behind a UPS and a pair of AKG 420 headphones ( 32 ohm, 125 dB / mW). We then play a sound clip that we, in turn, recording and analysis using software RightMark Audio Analyzer .
The graph above illustrates the frequency response that indicates with precision what sound frequencies represented - particularly interesting is the range from 20Hz to 20KHz, since human hearing stretches between these bands. The ideal curve is in this case completely flat and lies at +0 dB. Note Galaxy performs surprisingly, a result that is anything but especially like the Galaxy SII despite according to specification sheet is based on the same platform and therefore should have the same audio chip / DAC. In fact, the result is not far from what our reference unit, Sandisk Sansa +, performs for the figures.
The noise level is under RMAA at 89 dB, which is one of the best results we have measured up. The other part is looking very good with some reservation for stereo crosstalk / noise leaks left and right audio channel between; Note that lands on a last place. The value is so close to the other and still so low that in any case we do not experience any problems during the test listening to a pair of better headphones.​ __________________

[Audiophiles] Note 2 DAC quality

Calling all audiophiles.
What do you think of the quality of the digital analogue converter (DAC) on the Note 2? Is it good enough to justify buying an expensive high end set of headphones? I've been burned before by HTC's supposed focus on audio and the deal with Beats, only to find the sound quality utter garbage.

I'm not an audiophile, but a crystal clear sound is a must for me. I'm pretty happy with Note's 2 performance, but i think you might need to just check for yourself cause this is very subjective. But i completely agree on HTC Beats audio - garbage sound with ridiculously high amounts of enchancements and low boosts does not mean good audio quality ( beats fans, dont eat me alive pls, its just my opinion )

I think that most true audiophiles would not be caught dead listening to music using a Samsung phone. To me, that word means people who are willing to spend thousands of dollars on cables. Some audiophiles have cables at home that cost more than my car.
The definition of the word audiophile may of course vary...
With that said, I work full-time as a musician and audio quality is very important to me although I would never call myself an audiophile. My Note II with the PlayerPro player listening to FLAC files has been a truly pleasant surprise. I don't even use an EQ anymore because I love the sound of the hardware a lot.
What is a high end set of headphones to you? My Note II sounds fantastic with my Sennheiser HD-25-1 II cans. Sounds really great! I also have a pair of Beyerdynamic DT1350 and they also sound great with my Note II, but the comfort isn't quite to my liking so I usually keep the Beyerdynamics on my nightstand and use them when I watch videos or listen to music in bed for short periods of time. The HD-25-1 II is what I carry around with me on the go and I am more than pleased with this as my portable listening rig. Actually I'm incredibly satisfied. I had my Note II for a month before I even tried listening to music with it, so I wasn't aiming on using it as a portable player when I bought it. Since the day I finally tried it though I have been using it to listen to music nearly every day. I sold my iPod video 5.5 gen and Sansa clip zip. I still have my Cowon J3, not going to sell that.
I also have a pair of Shure SRH940 that I use in my home recording studio, they are amazing with the Note II also, but I only use the Shures at my desk, I don't take them out of the house.

ozaghloul said:
Calling all audiophiles.
What do you think of the quality of the digital analogue converter (DAC) on the Note 2? Is it good enough to justify buying an expensive high end set of headphones? I've been burned before by HTC's supposed focus on audio and the deal with Beats, only to find the sound quality utter garbage.
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It's more or less the same as the chip in the I9300. Just make sure you use a kernel that supports Voodoo Sound aka Scooby Doo aka Eargasm, such as RedPill or Perseus.
Sound without it is pretty flat, but once you turn it on you will be pleasantly surprised! I use Sennheiser HD439

victorator said:
It's more or less the same as the chip in the I9300. Just make sure you use a kernel that supports Voodoo Sound aka Scooby Doo aka Eargasm, such as RedPill or Perseus.
Sound without it is pretty flat, but once you turn it on you will be pleasantly surprised! I use Sennheiser HD439
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It is not the same chip like in I9300. Note2 uses Yamaha sound chip, while S3 has Wolfson. The difference is hearable between those two devices. S3 wins with deeper bass and clarity of high frequencies. I own Note2 and S3, and I like listening to music on my S3 more.

tehaerpl said:
It is not the same chip like in I9300. Note2 uses Yamaha sound chip, while S3 has Wolfson. The difference is hearable between those two devices. S3 wins with deeper bass and clarity of high frequencies. I own Note2 and S3, and I like listening to music on my S3 more.
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Nope. The Note II has a Wolfson DAC. See here, straight from the horses mouth.
http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/media_c...dio_to_samsung_galaxy_note_10.1_and_samsung_/
Audio output with my Creative Labs Aurvana In-Ear3's is absolutely top notch with Perseus kernel eargasm setting.

tehaerpl said:
It is not the same chip like in I9300. Note2 uses Yamaha sound chip, while S3 has Wolfson. The difference is hearable between those two devices. S3 wins with deeper bass and clarity of high frequencies. I own Note2 and S3, and I like listening to music on my S3 more.
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Dude, where are you getting your news from ? The note 2 has a wolfson chip
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KyleDevlin12 said:
Dude, where are you getting your news from ? The note 2 has a wolfson chip
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Well, that's strange, as I work at Samsung's R&D and every engineer says it is Yamaha in N2

If you work at Samsung do you know if they are working on a fix for the audio skipping, ect. When the Note 2's screen is off.
I've tried different players and it keeps happening. I've heard others talking about this and saying the same thing.
I'm just wondering about it as it really is a major issue if you ask me.
Thanks.
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tehaerpl said:
It is not the same chip like in I9300. Note2 uses Yamaha sound chip, while S3 has Wolfson. The difference is hearable between those two devices. S3 wins with deeper bass and clarity of high frequencies. I own Note2 and S3, and I like listening to music on my S3 more.
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tehaerpl said:
Well, that's strange, as I work at Samsung's R&D and every engineer says it is Yamaha in N2
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It's definitely got a Wolfson WM1811 Audio Hub. STweaks and Voodoo apps both pick up and can configure the chip. Also mentioned on iFixit tear down. Added to the above posted Wolfson news bulletin, this is kind of overwhelming evidence

Onemoa said:
If you work at Samsung do you know if they are working on a fix for the audio skipping, ect. When the Note 2's screen is off.
I've tried different players and it keeps happening. I've heard others talking about this and saying the same thing.
I'm just wondering about it as it really is a major issue if you ask me.
Thanks.
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I work at European R&D, we request only international projects (N7100 for example) so I cannot answer your question.
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It's definitely got a Wolfson WM1811 Audio Hub. STweaks and Voodoo apps both pick up and can configure the chip. Also mentioned on iFixit tear down. Added to the above posted Wolfson news bulletin, this is kind of overwhelming evidence
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Yeah, I just googled it. Well, maybe the engineers were referring to old H/W version. There's a lot of hardware changes when the project is in "ongoing" phase. Sorry for my mistake.

Well its all cool as long as the final result is the right answer
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I keep mi iPhone and my Bose Mie2i sounds much better on iPhone. But SGN2 still have an amazing audio quality, just keep away the stock earphone also the Monster are a myth, best experience on Sennheiser ie80 or Bose Mie2 (w/o "i").
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The galaxy note 2 sound output is more than enough for me
Sound alive + scoobydoo sound = best sound ever
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Thanks for all the replies. I didn't really think about the definition of audiophile before, and I guess it varies greatly. I am not a musician, nor do I know how to play any instrument. I can however tune many instruments only using my ear. My current music setup is the newest ipod with a set of Sennheiser IE60. However my cat chewed through those, so I was considering buying the IE80, but didn't want to do it if the Note 2 didn't have a good DAC. It seems from all the replies that the DAC is good enough to justify the $460 for the IE80.

victorator said:
It's more or less the same as the chip in the I9300. Just make sure you use a kernel that supports Voodoo Sound aka Scooby Doo aka Eargasm, such as RedPill or Perseus.
Sound without it is pretty flat, but once you turn it on you will be pleasantly surprised! I use Sennheiser HD439
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Sorry for sounding noobish, do I need to root to use those kernels? Do they come with a rom? I'd really rather not have to root and risk voiding warranty, and from previous experience with a One X the custom roms didn't add much to my experience. Is it possible to get Voodoo Sound or Sound Alive without rooting?

ozaghloul said:
t seems from all the replies that the DAC is good enough to justify the $460 for the IE80.
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Not $460 USD I hope! They can be had from Amazon for sub $300.

mitchelln said:
Not $460 USD I hope! They can be had from Amazon for sub $300.
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You're RIGHT! I was checking the price on the Sennheiser website.

ozaghloul said:
Is it possible to get Voodoo Sound or Sound Alive without rooting?
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Sound Alive comes in the stock ROM. Check out the settings in the Music Player app.
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You're RIGHT! I was checking the price on the Sennheiser website.
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Blimey, that's a mark up and a half! You have $160 to spend on something else now

ozaghloul said:
Sorry for sounding noobish, do I need to root to use those kernels? Do they come with a rom? I'd really rather not have to root and risk voiding warranty, and from previous experience with a One X the custom roms didn't add much to my experience. Is it possible to get Voodoo Sound or Sound Alive without rooting?
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sound alive is Stock music player enchantments
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for Voodoo sound u need non stock kernel like Perseus or Redpill but trust me it really make difference
and forget about one x cuz Rooting and installing kernels - Roms are so easy on Samsung devices

[Q] samsung galaxy s4 sound quality !

Hi guys,
I'm new to xda developers and its my first post,i need help to determined which better in sound quality (specially in calls) galaxy s4 or htc one i'm not a fanboy to any company and i'm little afraid from samsung because i have samsung s2 and it's with my respect extremely bad with below average sound level many time in noisy enviroments i can't hear the caller even with my handfree is on !!!
sound quality is my biggest concern and factor if will i buy galaxy s4 or not because i do a lot of calls and listen to music for hours can any body help me to decide please?

egyptian86 said:
Hi guys,
I'm new to xda developers and its my first post,i need help to determined which better in sound quality (specially in calls) galaxy s4 or htc one i'm not a fanboy to any company and i'm little afraid from samsung because i have samsung s2 and it's with my respect extremely bad with below average sound level many time in noisy enviroments i can't hear the caller even with my handfree is on !!!
sound quality is my biggest concern and factor if will i buy galaxy s4 or not because i do a lot of calls and listen to music for hours can any body help me to decide please?
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As far as external sound quality conserned...htc one is ahead..but in internal sound (headphones) wether its call sound or music ...s4 is more impressive than one
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This is based upon many reviews I read.
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ipsuvedi said:
As far as external sound quality conserned...htc one is ahead..but in internal sound (headphones) wether its call sound or music ...s4 is more impressive than one
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This is based upon many reviews I read.
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thank you for your opinion,can put some reviews you read that discuss this matter.

dude u r posting in the wrong place :silly:
and i've never ever had any call quality issue on my GS2 in more than 1,6 years nor on my Note2
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ipsuvedi said:
As far as external sound quality conserned...htc one is ahead..but in internal sound (headphones) wether its call sound or music ...s4 is more impressive than one
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This is based upon many reviews I read.
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but stereo speakers will give nicer sound but not louder

Nah, the sgs2 is fairly low with the max call volume compared to some other phones I've had and the popularity of the increased caller volume mod seems to imply that a lot of people wanted somewhat more. The sgs3 was better and no one seems to be complaining about in call volume in the reviews for the sgs4. IMO if it is a strong consideration wait for the phone to hit the shelf and try one out at a local shop. You wont have to wait much longer and will have a definitive answer.

krabman said:
Nah, the sgs2 is fairly low with the max call volume compared to some other phones I've had and the popularity of the increased caller volume mod seems to imply that a lot of people wanted somewhat more. The sgs3 was better and no one seems to be complaining about in call volume in the reviews for the sgs4. IMO if it is a strong consideration wait for the phone to hit the shelf and try one out at a local shop. You wont have to wait much longer and will have a definitive answer.
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thank you sir, but in egypt there is no phone trying and that's a shame every local shop there is one rule take it or leave it just like that.

krabman said:
Nah, the sgs2 is fairly low with the max call volume compared to some other phones I've had and the popularity of the increased caller volume mod seems to imply that a lot of people wanted somewhat more. The sgs3 was better and no one seems to be complaining about in call volume in the reviews for the sgs4. IMO if it is a strong consideration wait for the phone to hit the shelf and try one out at a local shop. You wont have to wait much longer and will have a definitive answer.
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maybe ur phone has somthing wrong !!!
All my Samsung phones have great call quality

yahyoh said:
maybe ur phone has somthing wrong !!!
All my Samsung phones have great call quality
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I never said anything about sound quality, I said sound volume which is a different thing. The sgs2 had easily the lowest max call volume of any phone I have recently owned and the increased call volume mod was popular with it and included in most roms for a reason. The OP does not appear to be a native English speaker and my impression is that it is max call volume he is referring to rather than the actual call quality even though he did use those words. Perhaps I am mistaken and he really was referring to call quality?
Either way if this is a make or break issue IMO getting a hold of a handset and trying it out is the only way to know for sure that something subjective like sound is going to be acceptable. The OP indicated this is not possible in his local at least from a shop but perhaps he has an acquaintance that is purchasing the phone that might let him try it out?

yahyoh said:
maybe ur phone has somthing wrong !!!
All my Samsung phones have great call quality
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I'm not saying the sound is bad all i'm saying is the sound level is not so great and the volume is below average specially in noisy places and i want to sure that galaxy s4 is better because i'm really love to have one.

yahyoh said:
dude u r posting in the wrong place :silly:
and i've never ever had any call quality issue on my GS2 in more than 1,6 years nor on my Note2
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not really
but stereo speakers will give nicer sound but not louder
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I said sound quality and...
Sound quality doesnt mean only loudness...
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The best, safest bet on headphone quality now (incl S4) is still I9300 or Note2 (or iPhone if you are so inclined). Supercurio reported there are frequency conversion issues with even the Wolfson S4 = noise. And no Qualcomm chip phone has equaled Wolfson to date in S/N.
My transition from GS2 to GS3 I9300 was mind-blowing. It is also a simple hack to turn up the volume to a reasonable level for demanding IEMs.
I was craving HTC One when it came out, but the headphone/camera risk is too great.

Why am here to boost sound quality lol......check my rom......
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BaronInkjet said:
The best, safest bet on headphone quality now (incl S4) is still I9300 or Note2 (or iPhone if you are so inclined). Supercurio reported there are frequency conversion issues with even the Wolfson S4 = noise. And no Qualcomm chip phone has equaled Wolfson to date in S/N.
My transition from GS2 to GS3 I9300 was mind-blowing. It is also a simple hack to turn up the volume to a reasonable level for demanding IEMs.
I was craving HTC One when it came out, but the headphone/camera risk is too great.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one-review-912p7.php
The one seems to have much better audio quality then the most other qualcomm devices.

BaronInkjet said:
The best, safest bet on headphone quality now (incl S4) is still I9300 or Note2 (or iPhone if you are so inclined). Supercurio reported there are frequency conversion issues with even the Wolfson S4 = noise. And no Qualcomm chip phone has equaled Wolfson to date in S/N.
My transition from GS2 to GS3 I9300 was mind-blowing. It is also a simple hack to turn up the volume to a reasonable level for demanding IEMs.
I was craving HTC One when it came out, but the headphone/camera risk is too great.
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I don't like iphone so much with apple price tag and closed ios and i think about galaxy s3 & not 2 but it's old now & updates will run out very soon on both devices so really i'm very confused!!

egyptian86 said:
I don't like iphone so much with apple price tag and closed ios and i think about galaxy s3 & not 2 but it's old now & updates will run out very soon on both devices so really i'm very confused!!
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get the Exynos Octa version which will have Wolfson WM5102 which is wayyyyyyyyy better than the piece of junk Qualcomm DAC

gsmarena has updated their readings. It seems that dac in qualcomm version is amazing.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4-review-914p8.php

Nik0la said:
gsmarena has updated their readings. It seems that dac in qualcomm version is amazing.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4-review-914p8.php
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WOW great improvement

Dont go into the tests too much..these minor differences cannot be noticed by most of the users..In simple words if the S4 has a wolfson DAC, your ears are in for a treat. Simple. I have a nexus 10 which has a wolfson DAC and nexus 4 which I guess doesn't and I can tell the differences when I listen to music on each of these devices.

Sound quality or call quality? Sound quality depends on your media, the DAC's S/N ratio, bit depth/sampling rate, your headphones, etc.
Call quality depends on your cell network
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ARPwizard said:
Sound quality or call quality? Sound quality depends on your media, the DAC's S/N ratio, bit depth/sampling rate, your headphones, etc.
Call quality depends on your cell network
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Sound quality on earphones

Could U compare Mate 7 sound output on earphones to Galaxy note 2 or Xiaomi Mi4? The first one had very good sound quality but Mi4 has disappointed me in this field.

Yary12 said:
Could U compare Mate 7 sound output on earphones to Galaxy note 2 or Xiaomi Mi4? The first one had very good sound quality but Mi4 has disappointed me in this field.
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Oh god yeah when I heard Mi 4 video on youtube, recorded sound I almost vomited ...

Simona Simmy said:
Oh god yeah when I heard Mi 4 video on youtube, recorded sound I almost vomited ...
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I use Beyerdynamic DT1350, and I am not at all impressed with the sound of M7...it is one of the weakest things about this device..

blackinfinity said:
I use Beyerdynamic DT1350, and I am not at all impressed with the sound of M7...it is one of the weakest things about this device..
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Try turn DTS on

Simona Simmy said:
Try turn DTS on
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I do.. it just sound fake...
my old Galaxy note sounded better..

blackinfinity said:
I use Beyerdynamic DT1350, and I am not at all impressed with the sound of M7...it is one of the weakest things about this device..
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no phone will push headphones that good buy 1 of these will sound ALOT better http://www.ebay.com/itm/Audiophile-...794?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae79a6f22

The sound is not good at all and its not very loud.
Im using Hidizs AP100

leo5111 said:
no phone will push headphones that good buy 1 of these will sound ALOT better http://www.ebay.com/itm/Audiophile-...794?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae79a6f22
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I have plugged in my headphones to many other devices and phones without an extermal headphone amp.
I can say for instance, I was quite impressed with the sound of my LG G2.
Mate 7 compared to my LG G2 is big difference...
My DT1350 headphones sounds very well without a headamp of course.. I have plans to buy a good USB DAC for my phone when I get the money
Like this one http://www.headstage.com/Arrow-5TX/....html?XTCsid=d99628f16e91ce69c9d50b1b0173b532
It is small enough to have in my backpocket in my jeans.
Further I try to avoid listening to headphones as much as possible since it will cause a big strain on your ears due added sound pressure (I have mild tinitus)
But when I am on vacation or travel to a different city and not at home it can be nice to have a good portable sound.
At Home I have an Antelope Eclipse AD/DA converter and Trident HG3 speakers.
But yes... this DTS "bull****" Mate 7 is just a marketing term just like this braindead "retina sound" for people who do not know or care much about audio..
DTS have a good effect on the Phone speakers since it adds more bottom and richness to the sound but with headphones it just adds "fake sound"
it is not a sound I would "trust" . With that said I bought this phone knowing it was not perfect, I drop my Lg G2 in the floor..I was desperate to get a new phone was and I did refuse to buy the Note 4 because of the insane price, plus I admire good screen to body ratio, a big smart phone today is NOT smartphone if there has been no focus to slim down the dead area, I want as much screen area as possible otherwise it's simply and idiotic construction, Huawei and LG are one of the few who understand screen to body ratio is important.

Blackinfinity, you only THINK your Headphones sound good with other phones, TRUST ME, i got into audio and i for instance was using these http://www.amazon.com/Beyerdynamic-...id=1428598957&sr=8-2&keywords=beyer+dt+770+80 which are 80 ohm,s like yours and i thought the headphones sounded OK, then i got a headphone amp, and it became VERY apparent that the headphones want alot more current to sound good then what comes out of your phone,seriously when i plugged em into the amp, i thought i had seriously upgraded my headphones, sounded ALOT better

I have the d880 too... They are hard to drive and react to amplification a lot more..
Dt1350 are made to sound good unamplified since that his how most people use headphones these days... However I still want a good portable headphone amp.

your headphones are 80 ohms they will improve with a amp
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guys.. i was on OPPO find 7a till few weeks ago..
trust me audio on opo find7a was so so much better than mate 7 !
I'm not an expert in audio/sound.. but even my ears could tell the big difference! I'm not talking just about the LOUDNESS.. but the richness of the quality of the sound!!
I don't use smartphone essentially for music but.. it's such a pity that this nice mat 7 lack in the audio so much :-/

leo5111 said:
Blackinfinity, you only THINK your Headphones sound good with other phones, TRUST ME, i got into audio and i for instance was using these http://www.amazon.com/Beyerdynamic-...id=1428598957&sr=8-2&keywords=beyer+dt+770+80 which are 80 ohm,s like yours and i thought the headphones sounded OK, then i got a headphone amp, and it became VERY apparent that the headphones want alot more current to sound good then what comes out of your phone,seriously when i plugged em into the amp, i thought i had seriously upgraded my headphones, sounded ALOT better
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Whos gonna carry bloody amp it is like have brick in pocket then...

simika said:
guys.. i was on OPPO find 7a till few weeks ago..
trust me audio on opo find7a was so so much better than mate 7 !
I'm not an expert in audio/sound.. but even my ears could tell the big difference! I'm not talking just about the LOUDNESS.. but the richness of the quality of the sound!!
I don't use smartphone essentially for music but.. it's such a pity that this nice mat 7 lack in the audio so much :-/
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Audio is not as easy as you say, impedance synergy pairing and headphone / IEM play a large role in the perception you have, for me with my IEM's collection the Mate 7 sound realy good, better than my old Wolfson Note2 using Viper4Android or Boeffla kernel.
Here the audio test part on GSMARENA to compare between both:
Find 7
The Oppo Find 7 put in a stellar performance in the first part of our audio quality test. It had excellently high volume levels to go with its very clean output. Barring for the slightly high IMD reading this is one of the best score sets we've seen lately.
However, the smartphone faltered quite a bit when we plugged in a pair of headphones. Its frequency response started missing the mark now and then, the IMD rose further and the stereo crosstalk hiked quite a bit. It's not as bad as the stereo crosstalk disaster that was the 7a, but elsewhere the more premium member of the pair lagged behind its stablemate. Volume level dropped as well, adding up to what was a good, but not quite flagship-worthy performance here.
Find 7a
The Oppo Find 7a audio output is certainly among the cleanest we have seen when the smartphone is connected to an active external amplifier. Posting excellent scores top to bottom in the first part of our test, the Find 7a was also nicely loud, producing one of the best performances out there.
Plugging in a pair of headphones tells a different story, however. The stereo crosstalk increases way beyond the point where it can be considered as good, or even acceptable. The other readings remain great, but the high cross-channel leakage has the potential of damaging the whole audio experience for more exacting users and put the Oppo Find 7a below the current crop of flagships as far as audio output is concerned.
Mate 7
The Huawei Ascend Mate7 did excellently in the active external audio test, posting great scores and showing no weaknesses to its performance. The only thing to potentially frown at is its sub-par volume, but quality-wise it's right up with there with the best.
Impressively enough, plugging in a pair of headphones causes a very minor increase in stereo crosstalk - in this scenario the Ascend Mate7 ranks even better compared to the competition, which often see more degradation. Alas, the volume is below average here too, so we can't really say it's the best phablet for audio playback, but we can certainly promise you it will play every track the way its authors meant it to sound.
With my sensitive InEar SD3 I have plenty of volume, I listening beetween 3-5 most of the time, I dont want to end up deaf
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Simona Simmy said:
Whos gonna carry bloody amp it is like have brick in pocket then...
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Audiophile

The sound quality for me on headphones is the best I have ever heard from the Mate 7.
Thoroughly impressed.

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Audiophile
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I am a bit of audiofile but NOT crazy one..
But guyyzz if u want TRULLY amazing audio quality FROM smartphone I'll tell you which phone to get ..
It is called Vivo X5 ..
There is studio version u probably NEVER seen packaging like this !
The phone uses audio chip
Yamaha YSS205X-CZE2,
Cirrus Logic CS4398 DAC
and headphone amplifier Maxim Integrated MAX97220
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^ lol, now that is packaging

Audio Quality

Better than any Smartphone I have ever used.
I have tested the S6 Edge with lossless FLAC music purchased from an online store (24 bit 96 khz). I played back using the Onkyo HF app over aptx to my Hi Fi. I am astonished at the quality of reproduction. You can also try ripping a CD in FLAC lossless format and the playback quality is great over wired or BT audiophile headphones.

Thanks for your opinion! ! This mobile is really great

Great review which also covers audio aspects in detail http://gavinsgadgets.com/2015/04/27/samsung-galaxy-s6-edge-the-review/

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Better than any Smartphone I have ever used.
I have tested the S6 Edge with lossless FLAC music purchased from an online store (24 bit 96 khz). I played back using the Onkyo HF app over aptx to my Hi Fi. I am astonished at the quality of reproduction. You can also try ripping a CD in FLAC lossless format and the playback quality is great over wired or BT audiophile headphones.
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do u have any technical detail about S6E audio outputs? (speaker/s and headphone jack)
if i remember correctly it doesn't have stereo speaker! can u make video for comparison of S6E sound?
Thanks
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Geeks Empire said:
do u have any technical detail about S6E audio outputs? (speaker/s and headphone jack)
if i remember correctly it doesn't have stereo speaker! can u make video for comparison of S6E sound?
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Please read the review I linked to above. The audio assessment is not about the speaker but the ability to reproduce audiophile level of quality for headphones and aptx devices.

I'm a bit of an audiophile myself and the S6 really is amazing. Using the Shure se846 it sounds as good as through my Macbook Pro. No amp or external DAC necessary.

SomeGuyDude said:
I'm a bit of an audiophile myself and the S6 really is amazing. Using the Shure se846 it sounds as good as through my Macbook Pro. No amp or external DAC necessary.
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I also use the S6 Edge with my custom in-ears ( not UE Personal Reference, but it was tuned to my ears by a friend - I'm FOH engineer and also work in studio as well ). It sound as good as iphone's output. Pretty much un-colored signal. I remember there are threads about S6 Edge somewhere in this forum about audio quality with lots of debations of S6 Edge audio. Totally not true. Listen to Natalie Cole - Yo Lo Amo (And I Love Him) [feat. Chris Botti] on the S6 Edge was as enjoyable as on iphone 6 ( i owned both iphone 6 and 6 plus + ipad Air ). My S6E was rooted, no ViperFX ( ViperFX is good, but it is way too colored and not real, at least to my ears) , played with PowerAmp, Flat setting with no Samsung crappy audio FXs as well.
S6 Edge Speakers are loud but they are crappy in comparison to iphone 6...but headphone output is pretty much on par

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I also use the S6 Edge with my custom in-ears ( not UE Personal Reference, but it was tuned to my ears by a friend - I'm FOH engineer and also work in studio as well ). It sound as good as iphone's output. Pretty much un-colored signal. I remember there are threads about S6 Edge somewhere in this forum about audio quality with lots of debations of S6 Edge audio. Totally not true. Listen to Natalie Cole - Yo Lo Amo (And I Love Him) [feat. Chris Botti] on the S6 Edge was as enjoyable as on iphone 6 ( i owned both iphone 6 and 6 plus + ipad Air ). My S6E was rooted, no ViperFX ( ViperFX is good, but it is way too colored and not real, at least to my ears) , played with PowerAmp, Flat setting with no Samsung crappy audio FXs as well.
S6 Edge Speakers are loud but they are crappy in comparison to iphone 6...but headphone output is pretty much on par
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Fellow engineer here, also UE10 pro custom user for 9 years before the Logitech acquisition. Anyhow, I'll have to check this out!
I'll definitely check out some of my personal reference recordings.
I've yet to take the phone to a live gig and see how it handles transients and kick drums at 120dB! SEC in the past has been major fail. Although the camera on the Note 4 handled Ace Frehley fairly decently, right on the edge of the stage, quite loud, over 123dB! The iPhone 6 had about the same amount of distortion at that gig, FWIW. Most ALCs on these devices hard clip well before that level. The S3 was really bad, could not handle FOH levels in most venues.

cpufrost said:
Fellow engineer here, also UE10 pro custom user for 9 years before the Logitech acquisition. Anyhow, I'll have to check this out!
I'll definitely check out some of my personal reference recordings.
I've yet to take the phone to a live gig and see how it handles transients and kick drums at 120dB! SEC in the past has been major fail. Although the camera on the Note 4 handled Ace Frehley fairly decently, right on the edge of the stage, quite loud, over 123dB! The iPhone 6 had about the same amount of distortion at that gig, FWIW. Most ALCs on these devices hard clip well before that level. The S3 was really bad, could not handle FOH levels in most venues.
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Hmmm, the phone to a live gig to record u mean ? Pretty sure it wont stand. I mix variable genres of music. My in-ears were tuned to matched with the UE PErsonal Reference response but with less boost at 10k. I found those peaks of UE Capitol version are way too bright.
Anyway, S6 edge handles quite well even with a very loud commercial Rock track with loud RMS , eg: I'm A River - FooFighter. Its a very busy track with lots of things going on, even with string ensemble at the end but my IEM wasnt distorted, which is a good thing. I think the output on S6E was a bit low in compare to ip6 but loud enough for low impedance high sensitive headphone or IEM. My IEM impedance is around 50 Ohm but it seems to be fine with S6E. Quite transparent.

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Hmmm, the phone to a live gig to record u mean ? Pretty sure it wont stand. I mix variable genres of music. My in-ears were tuned to matched with the UE PErsonal Reference response but with less boost at 10k. I found those peaks of UE Capitol version are way too bright.
Anyway, S6 edge handles quite well even with a very loud commercial Rock track with loud RMS , eg: I'm A River - FooFighter. Its a very busy track with lots of things going on, even with string ensemble at the end but my IEM wasnt distorted, which is a good thing. I think the output on S6E was a bit low in compare to ip6 but loud enough for low impedance high sensitive headphone or IEM. My IEM impedance is around 50 Ohm but it seems to be fine with S6E. Quite transparent.
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Yes, the camera one has with them is the best camera as the saying goes.
So with that in mind I like to test these devices under all sorts of conditions.
If a device can capture the crack of a stun gun's arc without distorting, I'd be impressed.
Then again, most equipment struggles with that, it's like trying to get a speaker to reproduce a square wave.
I'm definitely not into loud (as in compressed, no crest factor) recordings. Those will fry your ears, might as well stand next to a kiloton Frick chiller running at WOT.
For rock I'm more of a Robert Fripp guy.

I am using customs Lime Ears Aether and s6 edge sounds really good but to be frank this is still thin compared to Ibasso DX90 [emoji9]
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What surprised me the most with this device is how powerful the speaker is. Quality is there too ...
But when you listen to music with your headset it's very impressive. Sound is very clear and deep. It's so cool to have many toggles to improve quality. Samsung has already been the best I think regarding sound (not talking about speaker ... HTC boomsound remains above all).

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I am using customs Lime Ears Aether and s6 edge sounds really good but to be frank this is still thin compared to Ibasso DX90 [emoji9]
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Nice IEM man. Looks like Noble custom IEM to me i also use a pair of Westone UM Pro 50 + AKG K812 Pro. They also sound as they are supposed to be on S6E.
DX90 bass is a bit colored dont u think ? I love tight and uncolored low end. Kinda punchy.
S6E speakers ? Bleh!
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Yes, the camera one has with them is the best camera as the saying goes.
So with that in mind I like to test these devices under all sorts of conditions.
If a device can capture the crack of a stun gun's arc without distorting, I'd be impressed.
Then again, most equipment struggles with that, it's like trying to get a speaker to reproduce a square wave.
I'm definitely not into loud (as in compressed, no crest factor) recordings. Those will fry your ears, might as well stand next to a kiloton Frick chiller running at WOT.
For rock I'm more of a Robert Fripp guy.
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Pretty sure S6e wont keep up with high SPL IMO. Lemme know your result. My previous ip6 wont keep up but with Sony Z3, sound was fantastic after recording full HD ( Z3 allows u to choose high or low mic recording volume ).