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note 3 or z ultra?

Clove Uk are offering the Z ultra + sony smartwatch 2 + BT headset for same price as Note 3.
My last few phones were
Note 1, Note 2, SGS4, and now Mega
I do like Samsung phones, but it feels like a downgrade going from a 6.3 to 5.7 (half an inch)
The Z ultra on the other hand has a larger 1080p screen! but inferior camera and no flash. Undoubetely, the Z ultra will have **** poor call quality and loudspeaker...
Anyone in a similar boat?
The ZUltras looks and screen with the Note 3 camera and hardware would have made a perfect phone for me...

Note3 ftw.

6.3 inch with such massive bezel, such a total waste. I would better buy 7 inch tab then. Note 3 all the way.
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I owed Sony ZU 3G for about 3 weeks. It is a nice phone, especially for the ability to play ppsspp smoothly with PS3 wireless controller.
Great screen, speed, water prove, usable camera.
The resaons that I sold it on ebay are two things... first, battery life is just a little bit better than Galaxy note. Not so durable.
Second, it only got 16gb rom with about 10gb left for user. Yes, you can root for app2sd, but it would be better to get a larger rom inside without worrying about app2sd things.
So depends on your needs. For battery issue, sony will have a CP2 battery case which will cost you $250 for extra 3000mah battery juice.
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Note 3. I had the ZU for a couple of weeks. Was too big because of the huge bezels. Scratched extremely easy.
Great screen for viewing videos and such. Would make a better tablet than phone.

The Note 3 is more than just a large smartphone. If you can make use of its vast array of productivity features, go for it. Integrated stylus > Not stylus for such tasks. (3rd party styli cannot compare)

Note 3 is on another level... please don't compare the two.

Sony ultra is a joke... There's a fine line between phablet and tablet and that device crosses it.

MohJee said:
Sony ultra is a joke... There's a fine line between phablet and tablet and that device crosses it.
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That's what everyone said when the Note 1 came out........

@rbiter said:
Note3 ftw.
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Simple as that!

LuckyStrike88 said:
That's what everyone said when the Note 1 came out........
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Yes, but at least the Note was pocket-able. The Ultra is an absolute joke. You need to be a Hulk to have trousers big enough to fit the device easily without creating discomfort.

Next to a G-Tab 7. 'Nuf said.

barondebxl said:
Simple as that!
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Once my newly Note 3 fell into the water i would be wishing i had a ZU Simpe as that

xatlx said:
Once my newly Note 3 fell into the water i would be wishing i had a ZU Simpe as that
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Being flippant that would depend on the depth of the water. I am just waiting for Ultra owners to sit down and hear that cracking sound......
Hey I own the Xperia Z and the Xperia tablet 10.1, They are superb and I have no desire to change the tablet. I want a larger screen though but not even I can justify the Ultra's size. How on earth are you going to transport that around?
This is a question of choice. There will be a market for both devices.
I would like to see a new brand called Sonsam. Sony materials and design with Samsung internal know how.

xatlx said:
Once my newly Note 3 fell into the water i would be wishing i had a ZU Simpe as that
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Once my newly Z fell into the Shhit i would be wishing i had N3 Simple as that
Its easily to remove back and to wash it but when crap gets into Z, that my man is serious acid problem
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the area Xperia z ultra really beats note 3 is build quality and it's waterproof. Every other dept including ease of use has to go to note 3. Btw I'm not a samsung fan nor sony just prefer better product.

note 3 or z ultra?
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I f you want the Note 3 and want some reassuring ask it on a Note3 forum
If you are inclined to get that deal with the Z ultra , ask it on the Z Ultra forum
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My answer is :::
Whatever makes you happy .....
Since you are asking it on the GNote3 forum, just get it and get it over with :laugh:
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I like the Sony finish. If you have trousers and pockets or a bag just go ultra. But it is big a lot bigger than the Note. Could you really make this your phone? If you need a tablet with phone functions via a bluetooth headset get the Sony, otherwise go Note.

gavinfabl said:
I like the Sony finish. If you have trousers and pockets or a bag just go ultra. But it is big a lot bigger than the Note. Could you really make this your phone? If you need a tablet with phone functions via a bluetooth headset get the Sony, otherwise go Note.
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So the fact that the Z ultra doesn't have removable/replaceable battery, no sd card slot, less powerful hardware, no S-pen capabilities, no flash and ridiculous big bezels , is not that relevant to you?
Bluetooth functions? That's all?
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betoNL said:
So the fact that the Z ultra doesn't have removable/replaceable battery, no sd card slot, less powerful hardware, no S-pen capabilities, no flash and ridiculous big bezels , is not that relevant to you?
Bluetooth functions? That's all?
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I did say they were 2 different devices appealling to different requirements/people.
You could say the Note isnt waterproof... who cares.. just a different appeal for different people...

[Q] Nexus 4 vs HTC One X vs Galaxy S3 vs Note 2 vs G Pro vs Xperia ZL in real world

I have only used dumb-phones until now and plan to get a smartphone.
I did a little surfing and found Adreno 320 is better than Mali 400 GPU and Qualcomm Snapdragons are better than Samsung Exynos, right?
But in real world they say Note 2 is considered better phone than Nexus 4. I don't understand this.
Different phones top in different benchmarks, and still some things like display quality are not considered in benchmarks i guess, right?
Now I haven't used any smartphone before, and the I would be using it for gaming or watching videos/movies only most of the time as I'm a student.
Which of these phones that I mentioned (all in 23-29,000 INR range) are better than others in reality?
Those who have used these phones or are techsavy might be able to guide me in making the right choice
Just found S3 in India has different specs than in US, Canada etc.
India: 1.4 Ghz Quad-core Exynos 4412,Mali-400,1GB
US: 1.5 Ghz Dual-core Snapdragon, Adreno 225,2GB

It really depends on your priorities.
You should take by consideration the battery capacity, camera, and other features.
Nexus 4 is not a champion in the last two, its camera relatively sucks, and the battery is not very impressive (for me it's pretty good actually). One of the main advantages of the Nexus 4 is the fast updates compared to other phones. Anything with quad-cores and 2 GB of RAM is more than enough.
HTC One X on the other hand is getting old, even though it has a great look, and a polished UI (Sense 5), and amazing sound (comes with beats audio, and believe me it does make a difference!)
GS3 is a champion, but is getting old too, and soon will run out of updates. Good camera though, and pretty fast.
Note 2 is full-featured, not really a phone though, pretty huge for a one, packs lots of great assets from S-Pen to better camera (than N4). I'd suggest you try it.
Xperia ZL is not a flagship like the others, but has a good look, and great specs. Don't expect fast updates from Sony though.
Note that all those phones are relatively recent, so you won't notice any big differences in the daily performance. And don't forget that you'll eventually buy a cover for your phone, so the size/design won't actually matter.
My advice? Go for the cheapest! you'll end up bricking it anyway if you stick around xda

silv3rfox said:
My advice? Go for the cheapest! you'll end up bricking it anyway if you stick around xda
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This made me chuckle.. In all honesty I'd go for a nexus 4 there's not a reason not to go for it
think about it.. S3 is getting old and thus will stop being supported by newer android updates.. The note 2s downside is the size many people hate the size and its uncomfortable in the pocket put a case on it and its not only big but its bulky.
Sony has never had great support by android and usually gets left behind quite early after release... The nexus 4 shatters the s3 I had a s3 and its not on the level of the n4 and its obvious when using it.. Id say ur only choice is nexus 4 or note 2 between the phones listed.. IMO nexus 4 is one of the best phones out even right now.. Do some more research and you'll find your own choice :good:
Forgot about the HTC Onex.. HTC is a great manufacturer and makes top quality devices but it also doesn't compare with nexus 4.. My T-Mobile s2 was neck and neck with the htc Onex

gabriel1946 said:
This made me chuckle.. In all honesty I'd go for a nexus 4 there's not a reason not to go for it
think about it.. S3 is getting old and thus will stop being supported by newer android updates.. The note 2s downside is the size many people hate the size and its uncomfortable in the pocket put a case on it and its not only big but its bulky.
Sony has never had great support by android and usually gets left behind quite early after release... The nexus 4 shatters the s3 I had a s3 and its not on the level of the n4 and its obvious when using it.. Id say ur only choice is nexus 4 or note 2 between the phones listed.. IMO nexus 4 is one of the best phones out even right now.. Do some more research and you'll find your own choice :good:
Forgot about the HTC Onex.. HTC is a great manufacturer and makes top quality devices but it also doesn't compare with nexus 4.. My T-Mobile s2 was neck and neck with the htc Onex
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Agree with you.. :good: Nexus 4 is best amongst this...and also has a good camera if you know photographing...

Sturdy_99 said:
Agree with you.. :good: Nexus 4 is best amongst this...and also has a good camera if you know photographing...
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forget one X. totally outdated, even xperia ZL others are way better in that range.
1st you have to decide what size you are comfortable with.
Phablet size - Note 2, G pro
Phone size - N4, S3(23k) - higher range, N5 (30k)
If you choose any of above you wont be making bad decision. All are good performer in real life with couple of adv and dis adv with all.
so 1st go to some store and actually hold and decide size phablet or phone later we can discuss choice among those

I love my nexus 4, faster than anything, google support, i bought this phone in nov 2013, quite expensive from flipkart at 24500 INR, but still satisfied, s3 looks like grand and all cheap models of samsung, samsung actually sucks with its touchwiz laggy utility, note 2 is so big, its actually not a phone it is a tab, nexus 4 is comparatively small in size yet powerful, looks great with a bumper cover, i have a white one, after a lot of research i bought this phone and its great
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Sold m8, shall I get the s5 or wait?

Hi all, I sold the HTC One m8 and looking to get the S5, like the look of the camera, overall device looks and touchwiz looks improved from the s3 I use to have and get praises? from some users as a stock offering. I really enjoyed the s3 but rom community was not as good as its was closed source from samsung..was the s5 rom's / developer scene like? compared to xperia z2/3?
What do fellow s5 owners think, get one or wait for z3 / nexus 6 / note 4?
Im tempted by the z3 (when they come up for £430!), as it will be my first sony, I have loved and something really draws me to the the z ranges, started from z1, but really want to try the S5 before jumping deep in on xperia z3.
Appreciate your view.
Thanks.

The S5 is awesome....You won't regret getting it...But, if you have the money for the Note 4 and size isn't an issue, then get the Note 4 as it is coming soon

Wait for next gen lol. Not far away
BTW I had an Xperia z and the software and updates were so trash. Late updates that don't address bugs that slow down your phone. 4.4.2 came May this year and was unusable because it made me feel like I was on froyo with touchwiz and it gave me like 15 hours of standby. The standby was so trash. The ui fluidity was non existent. Seriously, pulling down the notification bar was delayed and had a laggy animation from a 2013 quad core flagship device running kitkat
ROM dev for the z was alright because some of the later gen devices features gets ported over so you don't feel like the phone is a pile of rubbish anymore.
Just had to let you know of my experience with Sony that was actually very very recent.

mhh, thanks, the more I see the s5 im tempted.
Love to get a note 4 but im one of those who can watch and wait for a decent price..........till I get a burning itch!! Plus cant justify paying 500+ on a phone, ill let someone else do that and buy it reduced after 2 - 3 months
May just sway towards a decent price Z3, new tech and few months down come back to Samsung Note 4 or..................s6!!
Let see.
What is the rom / dev like on the s5? I know on the s3 xynos? processor it was barley active but closed sourced on binary's and stuff.?

I'm in a similar situation and this is what I'll do: I'll wait for the presentation of Nexus 6 and then choose between that device and the S5.
They should have a similar price tag, but quite different hardware. We'll see...

Hellscythe said:
Wait for next gen lol. Not far away
BTW I had an Xperia z and the software and updates were so trash. Late updates that don't address bugs that slow down your phone. 4.4.2 came May this year and was unusable because it made me feel like I was on froyo with touchwiz and it gave me like 15 hours of standby. The standby was so trash. The ui fluidity was non existent. Seriously, pulling down the notification bar was delayed and had a laggy animation from a 2013 quad core flagship device running kitkat
ROM dev for the z was alright because some of the later gen devices features gets ported over so you don't feel like the phone is a pile of rubbish anymore.
Just had to let you know of my experience with Sony that was actually very very recent.
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I will straight up say that this is total bulls***... I had an Xperia Z2 and it was the smoothest phone i have used other than the M8. Wait for the xperia Z3 or wait for the Note 4 whichever suits your needs the most. The other phones are irrelevant as those 2 are definitely the best right now

crzykiller said:
I will straight up say that this is total bulls***... I had an Xperia Z2 and it was the smoothest phone i have used other than the M8. Wait for the xperia Z3 or wait for the Note 4 whichever suits your needs the most. The other phones are irrelevant as those 2 are definitely the best right now
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I wasn't talking about the Z2...anyway, just wait for the Z3 to come out and watch the quality of software updates hit rock bottom for the Z2. If you're lucky, the notification dragdown will actually be smooth rofl

nrd\ said:
Hi all, I sold the HTC One m8 and looking to get the S5, like the look of the camera, overall device looks and touchwiz looks improved from the s3 I use to have and get praises? from some users as a stock offering. I really enjoyed the s3 but rom community was not as good as its was closed source from samsung..was the s5 rom's / developer scene like? compared to xperia z2/3?
What do fellow s5 owners think, get one or wait for z3 / nexus 6 / note 4?
Im tempted by the z3 (when they come up for £430!), as it will be my first sony, I have loved and something really draws me to the the z ranges, started from z1, but really want to try the S5 before jumping deep in on xperia z3.
Appreciate your view.
Thanks.
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You must go for Note 4.
ice [N]ation

I've just sold an iPhone 6 64GB and bought another S5 :good::laugh:
Paid £385 with some discount for a brand new UK sim free one from a retail store on ebay.
The iPhone 6 is shocking worst phone Apple ever released, the coating on the screen scratches very very easily, not included all the hardware faults people are complaining about aswell, plus it's a slippy in the hand as the S3 was if not worst due to the thinness.
Luckily i managed to make all my money back on the iPhone 6 as people are still desperate to get hold of one.
The Note 4 will also drop considerable in price in the next few months, as it did with the Note 3.

I too switched from the iPhone 6 plus. I preordered it and really didn't like it at all. It was too tall and narrow. I just got the GS5 and am loving it so far. I was torn as well but when I considered the good battery life, removable battery, expandable memory, ultra power mode, IR sensor with Peel remote app, and the awesome screen...I decided to go ahead and get the GS5.

I am liking the s5 except one thing, why oh why does Samsung think I only need 16gb of storage?
The note 3 came with 32 and I am sure the note 4 will too. This s5 should be standard at 32.
Why?
Because the ext SD isn't that great if you can't write to it (Thanks google)
after installing my apps I have about 5 GB left. Even with them installed on ext sd.
So yeah just want more internal space.

ixon2001 said:
I've just sold an iPhone 6 64GB and bought another S5 :good::laugh:
Paid £385 with some discount for a brand new UK sim free one from a retail store on ebay.
The iPhone 6 is shocking worst phone Apple ever released, the coating on the screen scratches very very easily, not included all the hardware faults people are complaining about aswell, plus it's a slippy in the hand as the S3 was if not worst due to the thinness.
Luckily i managed to make all my money back on the iPhone 6 as people are still desperate to get hold of one.
The Note 4 will also drop considerable in price in the next few months, as it did with the Note 3.
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Do you please talk more about the iPhone 6 fraud? It's quite interesting.

Parradox said:
I too switched from the iPhone 6 plus. I preordered it and really didn't like it at all. It was too tall and narrow. I just got the GS5 and am loving it so far. I was torn as well but when I considered the good battery life, removable battery, expandable memory, ultra power mode, IR sensor with Peel remote app, and the awesome screen...I decided to go ahead and get the GS5.
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It's not worth the money is it, the GS5 or Note 3,4 ect are much better smartphones with an OS that works not the horrid mess that iOS8 is atm.
Honestly there only so much people will put up with Apple before switching, alot of people have started to question both their software & hardware considering the price they charge.
It be interesting next year when the S6 launches how many once diehard Apple fans switch over to Android for a better smartphone experience.

I currently have a Z2 and love it, but want to use SideSync with my tab s, so thinking of switching to an S5. They are similar spec. I would like to get the Note 4 but unfortunately it isn't waterproof/resistant...

The Nexus 6 will be introduced probably tomorrow and sold in November, i would wait for that one. I plan on getting one asap and i`ll sell my S5. The S5 is a good phone don`t get me wrong but i long back to pure Nexus android

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The Nexus 6 will be introduced probably tomorrow and sold in November, i would wait for that one. I plan on getting one asap and i`ll sell my S5. The S5 is a good phone don`t get me wrong but i long back to pure Nexus android
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It may be good, but come on, S5 has plenty more features and most of them are actually very useful I'd rather sacrifice some performance, but have those great features that stock android doesn't (and probably won't) have!

koragg97 said:
It may be good, but come on, S5 has plenty more features and most of them are actually very useful I'd rather sacrifice some performance, but have those great features that stock android doesn't (and probably won't) have!
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There are similar apps for most of the Samsung features available in Play mate, and i`am a bit bored with the S5 i must say truthfully

gee2012 said:
There are similar apps for most of the Samsung features available in Play mate, and i`am a bit bored with the S5 i must say truthfully
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Alternative to SideSync? But better than AirDroid?

gee2012 said:
There are similar apps for most of the Samsung features available in Play mate, and i`am a bit bored with the S5 i must say truthfully
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I guess it's all a matter of taste. I just love TouchWiz, but some people hate it Anyway, let me know how Android L is performing on the Nexus 6 when you get it
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Yes, Nexus 6 announced and few forums are very busy discussing prices vs size points, "hands up" im F5'ing daily to see if the UK price is out!! ARGHH come on google.
Looking at the S5 second hand prices have dropped around £20+ due to the Note 4 release / Z3.
Some good comments (thanks!) towards and s5 and I think ill be going S5 if I can see a tempting price and local to me.
Currently picked up a Moto g 2014, 5", very nice handset, running close to stock, but lack of internal storage is a bummer and im sure the 3G HSPA speeds are not great but for the price cant really moan, ergonomically very nice to hold and 5" screen, performance is mid, nexus 4 is slightly faster but cant moan for the price.
Does touchwiz really slow down the phone? Cant say I remember from the S3 days but I thought it was graphically nice to use and look at?

Sony Z3x... Successor to the z ultra?

Have you all googled z3x? It looks to be the successor to the z ultra that I know many of you, like myself, currently have.
The only reason I was considering a z3 tablet compact was cause I saw no successor to the Z ultra I currently have.
This Z3x looks to be what we've all been wanting.

CCJ22 said:
Have you all googled z3x? It looks to be the successor to the z ultra that I know many of you, like myself, currently have.
The only reason I was considering a z3 tablet compact was cause I saw no successor to the Z ultra I currently have.
This Z3x looks to be what we've all been wanting.
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6.2 inch is a dealbreaker to me. I use my Ultra for reading and can't take a smaller display so the Tablet Compact is still on the radar or rather, I am more or less fully ready to get it.
The Z3x looks like a great device, though but the smaller screen breaks it for me. If they would have introduced a 6.5 inch or perhaps 7 inch, I would have been all over it.

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6.2 inch is a dealbreaker to me. I use my Ultra for reading and can't take a smaller display so the Tablet Compact is still on the radar or rather, I am more or less fully ready to get it.
The Z3x looks like a great device, though but the smaller screen breaks it for me. If they would have introduced a 6.5 inch or perhaps 7 inch, I would have been all over it.
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A whole fifth of an inch on the diagonal would matter that much? If mine magically shrunk that much I may not even notice.

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A whole fifth of an inch on the diagonal would matter that much? If mine magically shrunk that much I may not even notice.
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The difference between 5.3 and 5.5 inch (Note I to Note II) or 5.5 to 5.7 inch (Note II to Note 3 and 4) is noticeable. For reading and browsing purposes, it is enough to shrink the text or force some extra zooming.
I am simply not interested in going down from 6.44 to 6.2 inches. Sony could very well give us a bigger screen while keeping the same overall size. A 7 inch screen with the same device proportions would also be perfect (it would be smaller than a Nexus 7 and just slightly bigger than the Ultra).
Even if 0.24 inches sounds little, it is certainly noticeable. It is around 6 mm smaller and yes, it is a step backwards for me.
If I want a smaller device, I can jump all the way down to around 6 inches then since most of the market hovers around 5.5-6 inches. It would be easy but I have realized that I prefer to go full in for a tablet replacement and a size that reduces the cravings for a 10 inch "full-size" device. Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact fit that bill and a 7 inch phablet with slim bezels would also do the same.
The Nexus 7 physical size is my optimum sweetspot, size wise.

[Q] anyone thinking of changing from note 4 to S6?

if rumors are correct 5.5 inch screen, lighter,thinner and longer battery life plus an awesome camera, good speaker, all features I would luv.....so slightly smaller and no s.pen which i don't use much.....could be tempting?

I'm considering getting the HTC One M9 Plus (or whatever it's called), provided it has a 2k screen (not that I need it), a good camera and a decent battery life.
I personally wouldn't get the S6, I've grown tired of Samsung and the horrible lag with their top end devices; but the S6 definitely looks interesting and I'm sure it'll shake up the 2015 flagship wars.

@thedarkmunk The words HTC and good camera is not possible in one sentence :angel::angel:
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magichoward said:
if rumors are correct 5.5 inch screen, lighter,thinner and longer battery life plus an awesome camera, good speaker, all features I would luv.....so slightly smaller and no s.pen which i don't use much.....could be tempting?
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@magichoward Prolly getting both devices again S6 and then the Note 5

Lol to each their own, my camera on my HTC Sensation back in the day was alright. To be honest, anything is better than the crummy Ultrapixel crap; if there is a 20MP sensor (and it might be a Hitachi one according to PocketNow), then who knows? It'll still be better than Ultrapixel!

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Lol to each their own, my camera on my HTC Sensation back in the day was alright. To be honest, anything is better than the crummy Ultrapixel crap; if there is a 20MP sensor (and it might be a Hitachi one according to PocketNow), then who knows? It'll still be better than Ultrapixel!
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Yeah I was indeed revering to the ultra pixel crap , I must admit that my Desire and One X made reasonable pictures. I played with a M7 and M8 of a friend at that was utterly crap (I do like the Sense UI though)

I would not switch from Note 4 to S6. I haven't even read what the rumored specs are in detail, but my Note 4 is brand new and I love my s pen, it's a feature I highly use and the main reason I got it over the S5 and its water resistance.

Should be good phone and likely will get one too (at least for temporary testing - I get phones from dealer/retailer friends that are either reduced price to buy, sometimes free or a phone to use and test for few months) so I'll try it but TouchWiz will still be a problem most of us will want to root and rom to get rid of.
They say they are going to trim down TW and reduce bloat only to replace with some Microsoft apps... Oh yeah, like that is better and like we haven't heard about TW getting made lighter before.
Hardware should be real good so worth a look but keeping my Note for sure.

i will be getting the Note 8 to replace my Note 4 based on my usual upgrade cycle.

magichoward said:
if rumors are correct 5.5 inch screen, lighter,thinner and longer battery life plus an awesome camera, good speaker, all features I would luv.....so slightly smaller and no s.pen which i don't use much.....could be tempting?
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That's until the Note 5 comes out. Which will of course be surpassed by the S7 a few months later. But, alas, the Note 6 will bring it to its knees. Of course, the S8 will have the final word in this war. Until the Note 7 is released [...]
It's an infinite loop.
I don't think it's worth comparing the Note series with the S series. They were never meant to be the same or targeted to the same audience.
If you don't like the S-Pen, then yes, your money may have been better spent on something else. But, on the other hand, who can really tell you what to do and which device you'll be happy with?

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This is so true.. An infinite loop.. Next one to outdo the last.. Just the way it works.. Sure you can compare Notes to S series but isn't apple to apples as different uses and features.
I typically like to compare hardware though..

I think I wait for Note 5 with 4k display.
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No way. This Note 4 is a laggy POS, going back to LG after this. Samsung did say they would make Touchwiz less laggy on the S6,but I don't believe them.
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There will always be a better phone on the horizon, you've just got to take what you can get now. That being said I was holding out for the S6 until I was burgled back in November. They robbed my S4 which was on charge right next to me while I was sleeping. (Scary feeling to wake up and reach for my phone then slowly realise what's happened).
Anyways I needed a new phone and the Note 4 had just been released so I ended up going for it. I'd never considered a Note before. Now that I have it, I have to admit I've been blown away by it. I'm almost (not quite) glad I got burgled. I've broken my S cycle and can happily say I'm sticking to the Note series for the foreseeable future.
S6 ......nope I've gone Note I can't go back.

I actually waited to see if the S6 is any good before buying a replacement for my OnePlus and I decided to get the Note 4 instead because of the following reasons:
* No microSD on the S6 - the difference for the higher memory S6 is almost £100, I got a 64GB microSD for £19
* No removable battery on the S6 - not a deal breaker but it certainly did not help in choosing the S6
* A lot of the apps (mostly for root) does not work properly with Lollipop and the S6 will only run Lollipop
* The "premium" design of the S6 is not worth the increase in price. I always use a case on my phones anyway.
* Going back to less than 5.5" screen is not something I would like
I will stick with my Note 4 until most of the apps I use works perfectly with lollipop, probably several months after the Note 5's release. I never buy a Samsung phone within 2 months of its release as the value goes down rapidly in that period together with accessories. Reviews are also available and bugs are ironed out.