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hey,
i installed push email (port88) on my phone, i have had it for two months (awesome service).
The only problem is my databill is 200$... for the second time. I have a 1 meg plan. i dont receive many emails on this phone.
I apparently went over 5 megabyets. My phone doesn't go over 0.05 KB a message as i have the default option to restrict it from downloading anymore.
I probably received 80 emails in a month (thats exagerating it). If we multiply 80x0.05 we get 4. Thats 4 Kilobytes used. I also send about 6 emails a month. That's not even 10kilobytes a month.
I never use my browser and it doesn't browse to sites itself (due to being in my pocket.) And the only data i use is for my email.
Does anyone have any ideas to what can be happening?
your phone could be autoconnecting to gprs/edge. and the constant connection could be sending kb back and forth without your knowledge.
hiimcliff is right on..
The way direct push works is that it maintains an HTTP(S) connection back to the Exchange Server.. Even though you might not be receiving emails, the phone will still be sending data to maintain the connection. That's the likely cause of it.
I asked my provider (fido) if i maintain a conenction, will i be charged, even if i keep disconnecting and reconnecting? I had the guy ask his tech
he replied, i can connect/disconnect as many times as i liked. Aslong as i didn't browse on anything, send receive data, i would be fine. Connecting doesn't use any of my data.
imasri29 said:
I asked my provider (fido) if i maintain a conenction, will i be charged, even if i keep disconnecting and reconnecting? I had the guy ask his tech
he replied, i can connect/disconnect as many times as i liked. Aslong as i didn't browse on anything, send receive data, i would be fine. Connecting doesn't use any of my data.
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thats crap. dont listen to that. there is no way for them to determine, email kb's from connect/disconnect kb's. makes no sense imo.
imasri29 said:
I asked my provider (fido) if i maintain a conenction, will i be charged, even if i keep disconnecting and reconnecting? I had the guy ask his tech
he replied, i can connect/disconnect as many times as i liked. Aslong as i didn't browse on anything, send receive data, i would be fine. Connecting doesn't use any of my data.
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connecting to GPRS may not use data (Questionable) but the constant traffic back and forth when your device talks to exchange definatly will.
I have push email on 2 different wizards and my bill shows a day to day readout of my usage which is never less than 7 megs a day. I generaly use about 2gb of data per month on each device sometimes as much as 4gb. The high monthly usage is attributed mostly to flashing my phone many times and resyncing my whole exchange account over active sync as well as teathering my laptop to the pda and surfing around.
If you use the push email you should just get unlimited data. $35 a month gets me unlimited data here in the states (nationwide no roaming) I think that is a pretty good deal. That is for each device so $70 a month on my cell bill is for data.
WELL WELL WELL.
So i got curious about this situtation about half way through posting this message, soo.... I called up FIDO and after navigating through their auto attendant I got some french canadian guy who told me a little secret after much poking and proding. Are you ready? This dude said that if I call in and say that I have a "HipTop" (equivalant to tmobile sidekick) that I could get unlimited data for that for $20 per month. He said they don't sell the HipTop anymore buy that if I had one (or said I had one) that I would get $20 a month data all day long. WOOT!
ok Canadians go forth and get your data plan.
be careful with that. providers are sometimes know to revert your phone back to the original and that could result in changing your plan back to a per/kb plan which can cost you loads of money.
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connecting to GPRS may not use data (Questionable) but the constant traffic back and forth when your device talks to exchange definatly will.
I have push email on 2 different wizards and my bill shows a day to day readout of my usage which is never less than 7 megs a day. I generaly use about 2gb of data per month on each device sometimes as much as 4gb. The high monthly usage is attributed mostly to flashing my phone many times and resyncing my whole exchange account over active sync as well as teathering my laptop to the pda and surfing around.
If you use the push email you should just get unlimited data. $35 a month gets me unlimited data here in the states (nationwide no roaming) I think that is a pretty good deal. That is for each device so $70 a month on my cell bill is for data.
WELL WELL WELL.
So i got curious about this situtation about half way through posting this message, soo.... I called up FIDO and after navigating through their auto attendant I got some french canadian guy who told me a little secret after much poking and proding. Are you ready? This dude said that if I call in and say that I have a "HipTop" (equivalant to tmobile sidekick) that I could get unlimited data for that for $20 per month. He said they don't sell the HipTop anymore buy that if I had one (or said I had one) that I would get $20 a month data all day long. WOOT!
ok Canadians go forth and get your data plan.
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computer9cowboy said:
connecting to GPRS may not use data (Questionable) but the constant traffic back and forth when your device talks to exchange definatly will.
I have push email on 2 different wizards and my bill shows a day to day readout of my usage which is never less than 7 megs a day. I generaly use about 2gb of data per month on each device sometimes as much as 4gb. The high monthly usage is attributed mostly to flashing my phone many times and resyncing my whole exchange account over active sync as well as teathering my laptop to the pda and surfing around.
If you use the push email you should just get unlimited data. $35 a month gets me unlimited data here in the states (nationwide no roaming) I think that is a pretty good deal. That is for each device so $70 a month on my cell bill is for data.
WELL WELL WELL.
So i got curious about this situtation about half way through posting this message, soo.... I called up FIDO and after navigating through their auto attendant I got some french canadian guy who told me a little secret after much poking and proding. Are you ready? This dude said that if I call in and say that I have a "HipTop" (equivalant to tmobile sidekick) that I could get unlimited data for that for $20 per month. He said they don't sell the HipTop anymore buy that if I had one (or said I had one) that I would get $20 a month data all day long. WOOT!
ok Canadians go forth and get your data plan.
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lol i was aware of that secret actually but i didn't want to pay 20 dollars as i didnt' think i'd use unlimited. GRR i got screwed.
One question, i have my phone set to manually synch. So it only synchs upon request but my emails come in.
I still dont udnerstand how i used so much data if i dont synch.
hiimcliff said:
thats crap. dont listen to that. there is no way for them to determine, email kb's from connect/disconnect kb's. makes no sense imo.
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I'm sorry, can you please rephrase taht?
imasri29 said:
lol i was aware of that secret actually but i didn't want to pay 20 dollars as i didnt' think i'd use unlimited. GRR i got screwed.
One question, i have my phone set to manually synch. So it only synchs upon request but my emails come in.
I still dont udnerstand how i used so much data if i dont synch.
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well if you had sucked it up and paid the $20 a month you would have saved money in the end.
$20 a month is a freakin steal man. TAKE IT. Then you can wire up your push email to download all your atachments and full messages, you can hook up to your laptop and let loose.
I love my unlimited data plan. I used to pay $75 a month for it. I would gladly pay that again on each device. For me I will pay whatever it takes to make my life better easier faster.
I can get up from my desk and go anywhere I please and stay connected to work, this is huge for me. Clients call my office get routed to my cell and I can look over emails they have sent. Then if need be i can pull out the laptop and get online to fix problems or whatever.
Data in my pocket, is kick ass.
RE: GPS, Data Plan, & Costs
I'm getting ready to buy an HTC X7501. I have a couple of questions regarding GPS. Once I buy a full GPS program like TomTom for instance, is there any cost involved in using the GPS on my X7501? For instance, does it make use of a data plan or do you need some other service to download maps?
The reason I ask is because I'm considering skipping the data plan since 90% of the time I'm in a WiFi area...
Thanks.
no software is all u need ...
unless u want traffic updates
if not than the software is fine
boinger66 said:
no software is all u need ...
unless u want traffic updates
if not than the software is fine
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So are traffic updates a part of your wireless data service then?
Thanks for the reply!
whoster69 said:
So are traffic updates a part of your wireless data service then?
Thanks for the reply!
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Yes, GPS isn't but traffic comes over GPRS (or Edge/3G/HSDPA) which is .
Confucious said:
Yes, GPS isn't but traffic comes over GPRS (or Edge/3G/HSDPA) which is .
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Good to know. Now I'll have to decide if I want it for the data plan. Any guess on how many MB it takes up? My guess would be that it would take up enough to make me want to go with an unlimited plan if I used it much...
Thanks again for the help.
The QuickGPS downloads are done over any available internet connection.
It could be GPRS, 3G or WiFi.
So, no, you do not need a data plan.
traffic updates for a month if you use it ONLY for that shouldnt be more than a 100MB
I find the average downloads when using traffic are 100K per hour, this is using a 15 min update interval. (This is based over a few months where I took notes of the daily downloads)
This means that 10 hours driving equates to 1MB, no more than 30MB per month - Mike
I have an unlimited data plan - the Athena cries out for one. You say you are within WiFi range most of the time , I have never used WiFi on my Athena, when I did on my Universal it drained the battery so much I gave up.
Here in the UK 3G coverage is great and HSDPA coverage is pretty good so I have connection wherever I go for less than £10/month. It does depend on cost/coverage but I'd recommend 3G/HSDPA over WiFi hen you just don't need to worry about it
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I have an unlimited data plan - the Athena cries out for one. You say you are within WiFi range most of the time , I have never used WiFi on my Athena, when I did on my Universal it drained the battery so much I gave up.
Here in the UK 3G coverage is great and HSDPA coverage is pretty good so I have connection wherever I go for less than £10/month. It does depend on cost/coverage but I'd recommend 3G/HSDPA over WiFi hen you just don't need to worry about it
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Sadly here where I live in California, we really only have one company with the coverage, AT&T. Their data plan is about $50 per month for unlimited, which is a lot. Since I can get WiFi at home and work for free, I will probably go with that and skip any data plan.
Thanks to all who replied. That gives me a much better idea of what to expect.
Situation:
I am w/ an HD, on T-Mobile, in the US.
I have the $9.99 / month 100 mb data plan (cuz I have wifi about 85% of the time).
I have unlimited messaging (of all kinds) on my plan.
I can connect to edge and browse on it just fine.
Another person on my family plan has working mms no problem.
I put in a friends SIM and it worked straight away, he used mine and it wouldn't work.
I have already tried getting my SIM card replaced.
already tried two cabs from these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394735
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395203
Problem:
NO MMS. I really can't figure it out. It seems that no matter what I do, it just never works. Sending gets to 99% (w/ the little icon at the top), but it never ends up going through.
When someone sends me a message...I just don't ever get any notification at all.
I have tried stock roms, cooked roms, I make sure to set my carrier to T-Mobile US, I have checked the internet as well as called CC for the server settings, and even just had my SIM replaced today...still no luck.
Anything welcome,
Thanks,
Jim.
Hi, I use Touch HD with T-Mobile, my sim accoubt is 'pay as you go' prepaid , I dont have data as my account has only MMS and it works great without any problems, after flashing my device with Dutty 1.7 the automitic configuration settings configured my phone but MMS didn't work and after checking the settings I discovered that the proxy is missing on the MMS access point setting and entering it, MMS worked again like charm.
Buy the way i am new here in US and when I go to T-mobile and ask about data plan they give me a Verizon prosure with alot of data plans and the cheapest is 39 $ !!! please let me know the details of your plan and what should I tell them when I go there in order to get the same 9 $ plan you have.
Thanks for the help
jim256 said:
I am w/ an HD, on T-Mobile, in the US.
I have the $9.99 / month 100 mb data plan (cuz I have wifi about 85% of the time).
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I have called T-Mobile several times to wee what my data usage is. Everythime they say ZERO.
I am on that same 9.99 plan and use Edge all the time. Have you ever checked your data usage? If you call don't give the secret away!
Everdog said:
I have called T-Mobile several times to wee what my data usage is. Everythime they say ZERO.
I am on that same 9.99 plan and use Edge all the time. Have you ever checked your data usage? If you call don't give the secret away!
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are you saying that you use the Tmobile data plan, but Tmobile can't tell?!!? I need to check this out. I'm on the $20 Unlimited package, but if that's the case, I'd totally switch to the $10
Everdog said:
I have called T-Mobile several times to wee what my data usage is. Everythime they say ZERO.
I am on that same 9.99 plan and use Edge all the time. Have you ever checked your data usage? If you call don't give the secret away!
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WOW what a lucky man you are!!
I will try right now! Could you please share with us what state you're in, the rom and radio you are on, and any other details?
Also...what proxy are you guys using? I have read that it needs to be DISabled...so that's what I have it to.
Thanks,
Jim.
EDIT: WOAH!! Just called and checked my data usage and they said I hadn't used any!!!!!!!!!! Billed or unbilled. THATS INSANE! Lol
I have only had a data plan for about 4 days, and only been using it for about 3 but....still. I would think it would take only 2 business days maximum to show up. Maybe I don't wanna get my phone fixed... lol I'd rather have unlimited data than limited data and mms. I know all the carrier extensions, I'll just email them maybe...
But I guess I am still going to go to the store and have them check out the mms
ahmadddd said:
...Buy the way i am new here in US and when I go to T-mobile and ask about data plan they give me a Verizon prosure with alot of data plans and the cheapest is 39 $ !!! please let me know the details of your plan and what should I tell them when I go there in order to get the same 9 $ plan you have...
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When you go to T-Mobile they give you a VERIZON brochure?
But, you just tell them that you have a regular flip phone or something (don't tell them you have a smart phone) and tell them that you want to sign up for the 100mb / month web2go internet plan. It is $9.99 / month. You can also do it over the internet (that's how I did it).
Thanks guys!
I REALLLY hope I can keep getting unlimited data for $10! (especially considering that T-Mobile's data is the slowest of all the carriers..)
Jim
I just called them and they said that for the past 3 months I've used no data, however the guy told me that $20 is the lowest plan.....? (I let it slip i have a smart phone, and he said that's the lowest for smart phones) So should I call back and tell them I have an old flip phone piece of garbage (for which they have a $10 plan) and will it still work no problem? (I'm gonna try it, but a 'yes' or 'no' would help)
Thanks, looking forward to saving my $10 a month
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I just called them and they said that for the past 3 months I've used no data, however the guy told me that $20 is the lowest plan.....? (I let it slip i have a smart phone, and he said that's the lowest for smart phones) So should I call back and tell them I have an old flip phone piece of garbage (for which they have a $10 plan) and will it still work no problem? (I'm gonna try it, but a 'yes' or 'no' would help)
Thanks, looking forward to saving my $10 a month
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"yes"...lol yep that's what ya gotta do
The easiest way is to just log on to their site, change your phone to a razr or something, then add the web2go for $9.99 / month. Easy as that! That's what I did.
STILL NO MMS FOR ME THOUGH! UGH
jim256 said:
EDIT: WOAH!! Just called and checked my data usage and they said I hadn't used any!!!!!!!!!! Billed or unbilled. THATS INSANE! Lol
I have only had a data plan for about 4 days, and only been using it for about 3 but....still. I would think it would take only 2 business days maximum to show up. Maybe I don't wanna get my phone fixed... lol I'd rather have unlimited data than limited data and mms. I know all the carrier extensions, I'll just email them maybe...
But I guess I am still going to go to the store and have them check out the mms
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Now, any time I call I say, "I don't use the Interent stuff, and I want to make sure I don't have any data usage".
I really don't want them to catch on!
HAHA, yes, when I called, I too was very selective about my choice of words. But I'm gonna try and change the data plan later today through site as planned and sugested above (great minds....). I'll let you know if it works for me and if afterwords I can still send MMS since maybe it's the $10 plan that causes the problem.
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HAHA, yes, when I called, I too was very selective about my choice of words. But I'm gonna try and change the data plan later today through site as planned and sugested above (great minds....). I'll let you know if it works for me and if afterwords I can still send MMS since maybe it's the $10 plan that causes the problem.
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Great would love to hear from ya.
One thing I wanna interject though is that it didn't work for me even before I got the data plan...though that was also before I got my new sim hmm...
So 10 points to whoever tells me what the $10 plan is under on the Tmobile site (can't find it for my life; my phone is set as the V3 Razor)
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So 10 points to whoever tells me what the $10 plan is under on the Tmobile site (can't find it for my life; my phone is set as the V3 Razor)
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Go to www.tmobile.com
Log in.
Click on the "Learn" link / tab at the top.
Click on the "Data and Web" link / button.
Click on the "Add Web2go" link / button under web2go (left).
Go under "Your current services" to click the link / button "change services".
Scroll down till you see something like this:
"Internet & E-mail
Line Level Services
Line level services apply to a particular line on your account.
Service
Description
Price per
month
Select
Services
HotSpot
Stay connected -- get Wi-Fi access on your laptop, phone, and select cameras and gaming devices at places you already go, including Starbucks, Borders Books and Music stores, airports such as DFW, LAX and SFO, Barnes & Noble bookstores and many more.
Terms and conditions
$9.99
100 MB Web for phones
Stay connected when you are on the move, with Web access on your phone or your T-Mobile phone.
$9.99
50 MB Web + 200 Messages for phones
Get 50 MB of Web access, bundled with any 200 domestic messages. Includes 50 MB Web access and 200 domestic text, picture, e-mail, or instant messages
$9.99
100 MB Web + Unlimited Messages for phones
Get 100 MB of Web access, bundled with unlimited domestic messages. Includes 100 MB Web access and Unlimited domestic text, picture, e-mail, and instant messages
$19.95"
Click the desired checkbox, then click the "change services" link / button at the bottom!
Jim.
Thanks jim, so I was in the right place, you just can't have the Razor selected as you phone. Apparently different phones have different packages. It took me like 6 tries before I got a phone that let me change my internet, while all the others only let me add the hotspots (I almost gave up). I finally choose the Sony Ericsson TM506 - Emerald which let me change the data plan and besides the 100mb for $10, it also had a 50mb with 200 texts for $10 (which is obviously the better choice, unless you need more than 200 texts).
So in the end, I swapped from $20 for unlimited data + $5 for 400texts to $10 for 200 texts with 50mb(unlimited on HD).....not a bad deal.
again, thanks for the help jim
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Thanks jim, so I was in the right place, you just can't have the Razor selected as you phone. Apparently different phones have different packages. It took me like 6 tries before I got a phone that let me change my internet, while all the others only let me add the hotspots (I almost gave up). I finally choose the Sony Ericsson TM506 - Emerald which let me change the data plan and besides the 100mb for $10, it also had a 50mb with 200 texts for $10 (which is obviously the better choice, unless you need more than 200 texts).
So in the end, I swapped from $20 for unlimited data + $5 for 400texts to $10 for 200 texts with 50mb(unlimited on HD).....not a bad deal.
again, thanks for the help jim
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Oh dang sorry. I so almost told you what phone I had selected but didn't bother.
I too saw the $10 for 200 txts and 50 mb, but since I already have unlimited messaging...the 100mb was obviously of course the better deal for me.
Glad you got it working!
I'm gonna call again right now and chk my data usage just in case...used a ton over the past 2 days or so :S
Jim
EDIT: They said that for the first month, they are unable to track / check your usage. Keep in mind! After that, you can check update anytime anyday. But up until it has been on there for one full month / billing cycle, they can't tell you how much you have used!!
They did say though that they will start over my 100mb on the 13th because they were unable to check how much I have used, and if I go ever between now and then they will credit it all back so that is awesome.
I've had the HD for about 3months now (with the Data Plan) and when I called and checked, they said 0mb used each month (which is, of course, wrong, but great) so I'm hoping that it will remain that way, but just to be sure I'll make calls to check.
i just pay the 20 bucks for the internet but i also pay for unlimited text and mms messages
wingtytn said:
i just pay the 20 bucks for the internet but i also pay for unlimited text and mms messages
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I would definitely recommend ditching that.
OK. Update.
Called up support again, wanted to add to my "trouble ticket" that I had submitted that my tmomail.net account wasn't working at all. I couldn't even email plain text to my tmomail.net address. Also wanted to update them with the fact that when some carriers send me a pic msg, they get a reply back saying that I rejected it.
The result was that I was finally transferred all the way up to 'advanced'. This is supposedly the highest. I had already spoken w/ tier 1, tier 2, and tier3 before, and once transferred to advanced I had everything fixed within about 20 minutes!
Thanks,
Jim.
I'm having trouble getting email over EDGE. It works fine over wifi. Does anyone know how to fix this?
Dawei94 said:
I'm having trouble getting email over EDGE. It works fine over wifi. Does anyone know how to fix this?
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What errors are you encountering over EDGE with email?
Or bypass it or anything. Sending videos is something I actually do use alot and as a musician it is something that becomes very helpful to me and not having it bothers me alot.
what limit
What data plan are you on? If you're on the standard Android Web there is no limit.
I think you'll find there is a fair use policy on all "unlimited" packages. In the UK atleast
I'd have to check what plan I put myself on but i bought mine unsubsidized and I'm on the flexpay I think. Is that parrt of the problem?
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I'd have to check what plan I put myself on but i bought mine unsubsidized and I'm on the flexpay I think. Is that parrt of the problem?
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No Flex Pay isn't different for anything except when you pay your bill and credit lines.
Well I can't send videos or other large files so what's the problem.
you can't send large files over 3G... don't know if it's an android limitation or t-mobile...
i've only had luck uploading large files over wifi...
Videos sent through text are limited, however if you send it through gmail it put it on YouTube r, it has to be under 10mb Over 3g, or bigger files require a WiFi connection
Worth noting, there's another difference between FlexPay and 'normal'; on FlexPay, you can't change your forwarding #'s, so you can't use google voice as your answering service.
It's what prompted me to switch from FlexPay to normal. Took 4 hours of customer service to determine that this was the cause.
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Worth noting, there's another difference between FlexPay and 'normal'; on FlexPay, you can't change your forwarding #'s, so you can't use google voice as your answering service.
It's what prompted me to switch from FlexPay to normal. Took 4 hours of customer service to determine that this was the cause.
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last year, it took me about 5 hrs over 3 seperate days for them to figure it out
lots of hangups from them while on hold also
So my question is it possible to send videos to another mobile device via MMS? In ANY WAY?
Good to know about with Flex and forwarding numbers. Didn't know that.
I'm about to start living on the road and will be using my hotspot quite a bit. Is it possible (if rooted) to have your data seen as normal data and not hotspot data? I have TMobile, and will burn though my hotspot data in a week.
Thanks in advance for any help and advice.
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I'm about to start living on the road and will be using my hotspot quite a bit. Is it possible (if rooted) to have your data seen as normal data and not hotspot data? I have TMobile, and will burn though my hotspot data in a week.
Thanks in advance for any help and advice.
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Don't know if it still works, but used to use VPNs on TMO and it didn't register as hotspot usage.
johnboy693 said:
I'm about to start living on the road and will be using my hotspot quite a bit. Is it possible (if rooted) to have your data seen as normal data and not hotspot data? I have TMobile, and will burn though my hotspot data in a week.
Thanks in advance for any help and advice.
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Ok so this is how you do it. I had the same issue with tmo where I paid for their unlimited data because I needed to do some work on my laptop and they throttled my tethering to 0.5 megabits per second making the internet connection unusable.they literally gave me the run-around and told me the reasoning behind why my speed was so slow was because my phone did not support 5 gigahertz Wi-Fi literally useless customer support. I guess I showed them...
https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/214463/how-to-ssh-into-android-which-is-a-hotspot
this hides your traffic by making all of the traffic originate from your phone as opposed to it originating from a tethered device
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Ok so this is how you do it. I had the same issue with tmo where I paid for their unlimited data because I needed to do some work on my laptop and they throttled my tethering to 0.5 megabits per second making the internet connection unusable.they literally gave me the run-around and told me the reasoning behind why my speed was so slow was because my phone did not support 5 gigahertz Wi-Fi literally useless customer support. I guess I showed them...
https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/214463/how-to-ssh-into-android-which-is-a-hotspot
this hides your traffic by making all of the traffic originate from your phone as opposed to it originating from a tethered device
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I'll give it a try, thank you so much!
get it!