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Samsung Galaxy S3 is now the most pre-ordered gadget in history

Don't know how accurate this is.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...m-beating-iPhone-4s-4m.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

It IS the most fastest electronic device to be sold in history.
With all the hype with Samsung they will.
And from each generation of the Galaxy S series, they've always gotten significantly better.
Hopefully iPhone 5 doesn't take over, but I know that they won't stand a chance against the S3.

Apple must be sitting back watching all of this thinking that they better pull something extraordinary out of the bag. Apple will no doubt be suing the pants off Samsung to coincide with the release of the S3.

I'm buying it on the release day, but I haven't pre-ordered it.

Wow, some of you really need to relax with the hate.
Honestly, do you want to know what the absolute best scenario is? For Apple to come out and blow the doors off of the GS3. Why? Competition. Without it, we wouldn't even be here to begin with. The SG1 doesn't exist without the I-phone. If Samsung has no competition, why exactly should they strive to improve?? They definitely wouldn't. So stop rooting for either one of them... and start rooting for your pocket.
At the end of the day, neither of them really care about you. So stop "celebrating" like you have something tangible to gain. You don't. You're merely a statistic. End of story.

I wonder how many of us have pre-ordered from different places? And not only that, people have pre-ordered both variants just in case of delays, and all memory sizes just in case.
So 9 million could well turn into only an actual 4.5 million phones based on colour alone.
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sjdean said:
I wonder how many of us have pre-ordered from different places? And not only that, people have pre-ordered both variants just in case of delays, and all memory sizes just in case.
So 9 million could well turn into only an actual 4.5 million phones based on colour alone.
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The same can be said about of most of the popular releases, so even the 4million that the iPhone got could easily be 2 million

Apple could make the most amazing hardware in the world, it'll still be **** because it'll be running IOS.

vapotrini said:
Wow, some of you really need to relax with the hate.
Honestly, do you want to know what the absolute best scenario is? For Apple to come out and blow the doors off of the GS3. Why? Competition. Without it, we wouldn't even be here to begin with. The SG1 doesn't exist without the I-phone. If Samsung has no competition, why exactly should they strive to improve?? They definitely wouldn't. So stop rooting for either one of them... and start rooting for your pocket.
At the end of the day, neither of them really care about you. So stop "celebrating" like you have something tangible to gain. You don't. You're merely a statistic. End of story.
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LeviathanPT said:
The same can be said about of most of the popular releases, so even the 4million that the iPhone got could easily be 2 million
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Absolutely,that is true.

First, I think this is a bunch of hype and probably overly exaggerated. If there were 9 million pre orders, wouldn't you expect just a little more people on this forum. Both the htc one x and gs2 forums on xda seemed to be more populated before their releases than this forum. Also, I know I live in the U.S. were the phone technically wasn't announced yet, but I only know of one person maybe two outside of the online forums that even knows about this phone. When the iphone 4s was announced almost everyone I knew was talking about.
On the apple talk, did apple ever have a global release? I am pretty sure apple preorder numbers are only on U.S. based customers but I could be wrong.

because this forum represents <1% of users. and people come here after release looking for softmods.

vapotrini said:
Wow, some of you really need to relax with the hate.
Honestly, do you want to know what the absolute best scenario is? For Apple to come out and blow the doors off of the GS3. Why? Competition. Without it, we wouldn't even be here to begin with. The SG1 doesn't exist without the I-phone. If Samsung has no competition, why exactly should they strive to improve?? They definitely wouldn't. So stop rooting for either one of them... and start rooting for your pocket.
At the end of the day, neither of them really care about you. So stop "celebrating" like you have something tangible to gain. You don't. You're merely a statistic. End of story.
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agreed.
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like, thumbs up.
you got a point on all your points.

djsaad1 said:
First, I think this is a bunch of hype and probably overly exaggerated. If there were 9 million pre orders, wouldn't you expect just a little more people on this forum. Both the htc one x and gs2 forums on xda seemed to be more populated before their releases than this forum. Also, I know I live in the U.S. were the phone technically wasn't announced yet, but I only know of one person maybe two outside of the online forums that even knows about this phone. When the iphone 4s was announced almost everyone I knew was talking about.
On the apple talk, did apple ever have a global release? I am pretty sure apple preorder numbers are only on U.S. based customers but I could be wrong.
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It's okay, the US is usually late for the parties anyway...

I find this hard to believe. If a new iPhone is coming out, everyone starts talking about it months before. When a new Samsung phone is coming out, only geeks like us talk about it. I haven't heard any buzz about SGS 3.

djsaad1 said:
First, I think this is a bunch of hype and probably overly exaggerated. If there were 9 million pre orders, wouldn't you expect just a little more people on this forum. Both the htc one x and gs2 forums on xda seemed to be more populated before their releases than this forum. Also, I know I live in the U.S. were the phone technically wasn't announced yet, but I only know of one person maybe two outside of the online forums that even knows about this phone. When the iphone 4s was announced almost everyone I knew was talking about.
On the apple talk, did apple ever have a global release? I am pretty sure apple preorder numbers are only on U.S. based customers but I could be wrong.
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Yeah because everybody in the world flocks to XDA.

Intratech said:
Yeah because everybody in the world flocks to XDA.
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No but $800 smartphone only tech addicts buy

MarkieSA said:
Apple must be sitting back watching all of this thinking that they better pull something extraordinary out of the bag. Apple will no doubt be suing the pants off Samsung to coincide with the release of the S3.
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The "pre-orders" are from carriers and resellers and are stretched out over a year. With the SGS2 selling 20MM copies to not have 10MM pre-orders for the SGS3 would be shocking. Samsung UK's said customer pre-orders are "in the thousands." But the UK carriers all confirmed it's the most pre-ordered device they've sold.
To put the SGS2's success and SGS3's potential in perspective, here's some statistics. In 2011 there were 488MM smartphones sold worldwide. Samsung sold 20MM SGS2's. That means the SGS2 made up 4% of 2011 global smartphone sales. There were 54MM iPhone's sold which represents 11% of the market. So 85% of the world bought something other than the two most hyped and recognized smartphones on the market.
And comparing the SGS2 against Samsung's total sales is interesting. They sold 90MM smartphones in 2011. With 20MM SGS2's sold, 78% of the smartphones they sold weren't SGS2s.
If the SGS3 doubles in sales (which is lofty) over the SGS2 it'll still be behind the iPhone (which itself will grow in sales) and have 8% of the market in 2012; meaning 92% of smartphone buyers will buy something other than the SGS3.
Samsung’s numbers are impressive and they and Apple share 90% of mobile device profit between them. But clearly the sun doesn't rise and set based on a single device; no matter how good it is. There's a reason for the Galaxy Y and One V which will outsell the SGS3 and One X by a large margin.

love the S3 But
There is always going to be a debate between apple and samsung, but I for 1 believe in the competition aspect of it also, I just hope that apple comes out with something that is going to challenge samsung and vice a versa the only winners here r us
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Sir-Awesome said:
It IS the most fastest electronic device to be sold in history.
With all the hype with Samsung they will.
And from each generation of the Galaxy S series, they've always gotten significantly better.
Hopefully iPhone 5 doesn't take over, but I know that they won't stand a chance against the S3.
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I don't think apple has a chance either but hope apple give them something to shoot for should be interesting to watch -

aydc said:
I find this hard to believe. If a new iPhone is coming out, everyone starts talking about it months before. When a new Samsung phone is coming out, only geeks like us talk about it. I haven't heard any buzz about SGS 3.
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Because its an Iphone? And 13 year old girls tend to talk more than normal people?

I really surprised at this, I thought the iPad/Pad would have been well ahead with "most preorders".

Is it just me, or....

Is it just me, or is the Xoom the best Android tablet STILL after 2 years? No other tablet from any other manufacturer (or offered by any carrier) offers the combination of LTE, external SD storage, quality screen, fast processor (once overclocked), and overall usability. I've seen the samsung tabs that are out, and none of the LTE ones are really an improvement over the xoom. They offer a dual core, 1 GB of RAM, same resolution screen, etc. I have no intention on replacing my Xoom unless something really groundbreaking comes out (1080p screen, LTE, external SD support, solid battery life). Thoughts?

I agree and I hate that the nexus series doesn't have place for external SD storage....wtf did they think??

Preach!

The XOOM has the worst display panel I've ever seen on a modern device. Colors are bleached they're so pale.

063_XOBX said:
The XOOM has the worst display panel I've ever seen on a modern device. Colors are bleached they're so pale.
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Had to be one hater
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Had to be one hater
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So being honest about my device makes me a hater? Sound logic.

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So being honest about my device makes me a hater? Sound logic.
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Seriously.
I don't get threads like this. Is the OP just trying to justify not upgrading his tablet or the fact that he has a relatively old device? Every 6 months we see new and better hardware. The Xoom is not the best, by any means. It is outdated.
That doesn't mean it doesn't still hold its purpose. It is holding up well, especially with custom rom support but compare it to the performance of a Nexus 7 or a Nexus 10 or even a Galaxy Nexus. Compare it to an S3. There are notable performance differences.
Honestly, the Xoom was a bit of a flop on launch; it was a rushed beta product. It shipped with beta software (lol Honeycomb), software that didn't even support the micro sd card (we had to wait until 3.2 for this I believe), its display is garbage, (it should have had the same display as the original Transformer tablet), and its prices were a joke ($600 with 2yr contract, $800 off contract). Eventually we got a $600 wifi version, though still overpriced IMO. And of course the marketing for the device was just plain bad; no surprise there though, Motorola device marketing is always poor.
With all that said, the Xoom has been a great device and I've used it endlessly over the past 1.5 years. But to try and say its still the best tablet on the market is just foolish. I might agree that its the best of the 2011 10" tablets that were released, but the Transformer had nearly identical specs with a better display and the advent of a keyboard dock, I'm just not sure how development over there has been.
Anyway, point is, the Xoom was and remains a great device. It has endured the test of time, in large thanks to developers like Team Eos. But it is by no means the best tablet on the market. That ship sailed quite some time ago.

There still isn't another Android tablet I'd rather have (well other than the Kindle Fire 8.9 HD because I like the interface for Amazon Instant Video.) I really don't care about all of this performance that people go gaga over because I don't use my XOOM for games. It does what I need it to snappily enough. The only thing I would even consider replacing this with is the Surface Pro.
If this tablet died today, I would be sorely tempted to get a used XOOM LTE before I priced out another Android tablet.
I don't mind that the screen is subpar, a 10" tablet is still small anyway.
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Its still a good device... there are wayyyyyy better tablets out there but still. I'm keeping mine just to install in whatever car I buy in a few no that. It should do just fine!
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Cubanluke88 said:
Seriously.
I don't get threads like this. Is the OP just trying to justify not upgrading his tablet or the fact that he has a relatively old device? Every 6 months we see new and better hardware. The Xoom is not the best, by any means. It is outdated.
That doesn't mean it doesn't still hold its purpose. It is holding up well, especially with custom rom support but compare it to the performance of a Nexus 7 or a Nexus 10 or even a Galaxy Nexus. Compare it to an S3. There are notable performance differences.
Honestly, the Xoom was a bit of a flop on launch; it was a rushed beta product. It shipped with beta software (lol Honeycomb), software that didn't even support the micro sd card (we had to wait until 3.2 for this I believe), its display is garbage, (it should have had the same display as the original Transformer tablet), and its prices were a joke ($600 with 2yr contract, $800 off contract). Eventually we got a $600 wifi version, though still overpriced IMO. And of course the marketing for the device was just plain bad; no surprise there though, Motorola device marketing is always poor.
With all that said, the Xoom has been a great device and I've used it endlessly over the past 1.5 years. But to try and say its still the best tablet on the market is just foolish. I might agree that its the best of the 2011 10" tablets that were released, but the Transformer had nearly identical specs with a better display and the advent of a keyboard dock, I'm just not sure how development over there has been.
Anyway, point is, the Xoom was and remains a great device. It has endured the test of time, in large thanks to developers like Team Eos. But it is by no means the best tablet on the market. That ship sailed quite some time ago.
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Everything you say is true. I was not saying that it is the best tablet on the market spec wise, I just see no other tablet offered that has the Xoom's combination of features. Sure the Nexus 10 is great, but why can't I get one with external SD support and LTE? I use my Xoom primarily for work, so the LTE is a huge selling point (I do a lot of traveling). The only android tablet available right now that can match what the Xoom has to offer is the Samsung Galaxy 2 10.1, and it has the same Tegra 2, 1 GB of RAM, and a 1280x800 display. I did see that Verizon is launching the Note 10.1 which is rocking a quad core and 2 GB of RAM, but it still has a 1280x800 display. It'll probably look better than the Xoom's display, but my S3 (personal phone) has about the same resolution as the tabs I just mentioned (1280x720 vs 800) and that's a much smaller screen. I'm seriously hoping the Asus Transformer TF700KL becomes available here.
You are also absolutely right that Team EOS has been a huge part in keeping the Xoom alive. I convinced my coworker to get the Xoom when it first came out and it was incredibly disappointing. He gave it to me a year later, I installed some older ICS rom and it's performance was satisfactory at best. Since I installed Team Eos 3 stable bluild, my xoom has been an effin' peach!

External sdcards need to die. Internal storage and cloud storage is the future.
Seriously, I've had a 32GB sdcard in my Xoom for over a year and I don't think I've ever removed/swapped it out. I would be perfectly okay with a 64GB internal storage tablet (maybe we'll even see 128 GB in the future? doesn't the iPad come in a 128 GB variant?).
As for LTE, I'm willing to bet we'll at least see a 3G version of the Nexus 10 come out; we saw a 3G Nexus 7 not too long after release.

Cubanluke88 said:
External sdcards need to die. Internal storage and cloud storage is the future.
Seriously, I've had a 32GB sdcard in my Xoom for over a year and I don't think I've ever removed/swapped it out. I would be perfectly okay with a 64GB internal storage tablet (maybe we'll even see 128 GB in the future? doesn't the iPad come in a 128 GB variant?).
As for LTE, I'm willing to bet we'll at least see a 3G version of the Nexus 10 come out; we saw a 3G Nexus 7 not too long after release.
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It doesn't need to die but, it will. Alot of potential money is being lost by manufacturers and mobile data carriers.

I have finally come to a situation that leads me needing more than my XOOM can offer. I downloaded SightSpace 3d and brought in a model of the Washington National Cathedral. It's not a complicated model but it crashed. It doesn't on my Galaxy Nexus. I still don't think I'm gonna get another Android tablet though.
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External sdcards need to die. Internal storage and cloud storage is the future.
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Yes, but we're not in that future yet. Cloud services go down far too often these days. At this point, I can get SD cards for almost nothing and switch between movies faster than I can download them. I also am guaranteed a smoother viewing experience as my movies won't fall victim to network latency. It's a nice dream but I live in the present.
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Its not a dream at all if you live in a modern/civilized area.
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It doesn't needAlot of potential money is being lost by manufacturers and mobile data carriers.
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How?

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Its not a dream at all if you live in a modern/civilized area.
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How?
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Most of the world considers a reliable power grid, flushing toilets and ready supply of food to be modern and civilized, so are you just trolling or ignorant?? Of course areas with a higher population will be taken care of first when it comes to technology. The county I live in is larger than the state of Maryland, yet Maryland holds at least five times the population. Who do you think is going to be higher up on the "todo" list?
How, is simple economics. If google/samsung is charging a extra $50 dollars for every 8 gigs of internal storage, they would lose money adding a ext. sd slot since you can pick up a 16 gig card for $10-$20, and a 64 gb for $50-$90 (sometimes less) Why pay them more money for something that you can get more of for less money.
Data mobile carriers can make money on us less "civilized" folk who don't have a abundance of free wifi spots in our area, so, if we aren't near a wifi spot to download from our cloud storage, we have to use mobile data or do without. Two of the big mobile carriers are no longer offering unlimited data, so you have to pay. Others are offering unlimited, but ppl that are using more are getting throttled whether the companies will admit it or not. I won't be surprised if premium data packages start coming out offering faster data speeds by putting those accounts on priority... for a price

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Most of the world considers a reliable power grid, flushing toilets and ready supply of food to be modern and civilized, so are you just trolling or ignorant?? Of course areas with a higher population will be taken care of first when it comes to technology. The county I live in is larger than the state of Maryland, yet Maryland holds at least five times the population. Who do you think is going to be higher up on the "todo" list?
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Hey man, thats some adorable sarcasm. Look at you being all edgy. Man I wish I could be as cute and clever as you are.
Sorry but those places aren't the primary target for high end, high tech devices. By any means. OEMs should be pushing for more advanced tech, not less to accommodate people; this includes sd cards. Have you noticed that Apple hasn't included an sdcard slot for generations? Its no surprise that Google went this route. Its simpler manufacturing wise to not have the slot, helps encourage people to buy the devices with with more available internal storage (and thus have wider profit margins), and it compels people to take advantage of their streaming media market. All of these things help their bottom line.
How, is simple economics. If google/samsung is charging a extra $50 dollars for every 8 gigs of internal storage, they would lose money adding a ext. sd slot since you can pick up a 16 gig card for $10-$20, and a 64 gb for $50-$90 (sometimes less) Why pay them more money for something that you can get more of for less money.
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Again, I point you to Apple. They've been doing this for years and guess what? It works. Consumers buy it. Guess what also has been selling like hot cakes? The new Nexus devices. Yeah, they're sure losing out on a lot of money.
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Seriously, you took my "modern and civilized" comment a bit too literally, don't you think? We're talking about high end mobile devices in a giant nerd forum and you jump straight to HEY MAN RUNNING WATER AND STUFF.
The simple fact is, the cloud is big and getting bigger. Amazon, Apple, B&N and Google all have their hand in the cookie jar, It should be no surprise that they are pushing toward this. Remember that revamp they did last year with the Android market to the Google Play Store? Google Movies/TV. Watch some of their commercials for the tablets; "The Playground is Open." All from the cloud.
Sorry but the future is here and Google isn't going to hold the hands of people that are left behind, they're going to push forward like any smart company.

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Hey man, thats some adorable sarcasm. Look at you being all edgy. Man I wish I could be as cute and clever as you are.
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Thanks.
Sorry but those places aren't the primary target for high end, high tech devices. By any means. OEMs should be pushing for more advanced tech, not less to accommodate people; this includes sd cards. Have you noticed that Apple hasn't included an sdcard slot for generations? Its no surprise that Google went this route. Its simpler manufacturing wise to not have the slot, helps encourage people to buy the devices with with more available internal storage (and thus have wider profit margins), and it compels people to take advantage of their streaming media market. All of these things help their bottom line.
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And your point is?? I said that ext. sd didn't NEED to do but that it was going too. You still haven't explained why it needs to die, except, now, that it helps profit margins for the manufacturers...pretty much making my point for me, thanks again
Again, I point you to Apple. They've been doing this for years and guess what? It works. Consumers buy it. Guess what also has been selling like hot cakes? The new Nexus devices. Yeah, they're sure losing out on a lot of money.
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Apple is a nitch market, If you want to run iOS you need to have a Apple device, only available through Apple, so if they say it doesn't include a ext. sd slot, then it doesn't, if you don't like it, then you don't buy Apple. If you buy a Apple device with 16 gb then 6 months down the road want one with a 32 gb, then you have to buy a new device. Again proved my point.
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Seriously, you took my "modern and civilized" comment a bit too literally, don't you think? We're talking about high end mobile devices in a giant nerd forum and you jump straight to HEY MAN RUNNING WATER AND STUFF.
The simple fact is, the cloud is big and getting bigger. Amazon, Apple, B&N and Google all have their hand in the cookie jar, It should be no surprise that they are pushing toward this. Remember that revamp they did last year with the Android market to the Google Play Store? Google Movies/TV. Watch some of their commercials for the tablets; "The Playground is Open." All from the cloud.
Sorry but the future is here and Google isn't going to hold the hands of people that are left behind, they're going to push forward like any smart company.
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You jumped straight to, anybody that doesn't have constant, reliable ever ready internet access is in the stone age, I was just playing along, your point? Just because because it is big and getting bigger, doesn't mean it is better.

Cubanluke88 said:
Its no surprise that Google went this route. Its simpler manufacturing wise to not have the slot, helps encourage people to buy the devices with with more available internal storage (and thus have wider profit margins), and it compels people to take advantage of their streaming media market. All of these things help their bottom line.
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That is not the reason Google didn't putting sd card in their tablet and phone, Paying MS for using fat32 isn't in google cards,
all other android tech company do for using sd card, Motorola and Google nexus is not paying Microsoft toll money...

That is pretty ridiculous. Your modern civilized world couldn't even support Netflix on Christmas Eve. Part of Amazon's cloud services went down and many things weren't available. During hurricane Sandy, many prominent things on the internet were down. Your wifi and high speed broadband mean nothing if network bridges go down. I've got FiOS and it's still slow at times because the server on the other end only has T1. The cloud is not reliable yet. Most of the mainlines of the internet aren't scalable enough to support everyone cloud streaming everything. Apple is a poor example you've picked. iCloud was a disaster. Apple AND Amazon had a security nightmare in the last year. I can find more examples of these forward reaching companies flaking out if you insist that this is the future. We just don't have the redundancy or the capacity to support a connected world yet. Even if Apple managed to get its stuff together, there are still players that it depends on not to flake out on them.
If this is the future, we're screwed because it is an unstable insecure mess in our little modern and civilized world.
Anyway... My XOOM is 100% able to play every movie I own from my SD cards ALL of the time. If I have power, I have everything I own. I am not at some provider's mercy for data or connectivity. Oh, and by the way I don't have to worry about network security because I don't have to be connected. Ever.
I live in the present. I don't embrace the cloud and keep it at arm's length after a friendly handshake. The XOOM's LTE radio lets me enjoy the best of both worlds. I look to the future but I also remember the past and remain cognizant of what's happening around me.
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. Apple AND Amazon had a security nightmare in the last year. I don't embrace the cloud and keep it at arm's length after a friendly handshake. The XOOM's LTE radio lets me enjoy the best of both worlds. I look to the future but I also remember the past and remain cognizant of what's happening around me.
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Had to smile when i read your post, I host all of my media files and use Plex and Xbmc to access them over the net when i am not at home, As i am posting this a buddy in the caribbean is log on with plex on his At&t Galaxy 10 watching a movie....

[Q] Who thinks that HTC is about to repeat the success of the Galaxy S2?

I have a strong feeling that this is totally their Galaxy S2 moment.
This will be the point where they will finally be noticed.
HTC will keep releasing success after success.
This also includes the possibility of a real Phablet coming Q3 2013 (HTC Note?) instead of HTC One+
Then next year will be the year where they will seal the deal.
Samsung will burn to the ground.
And HTC will rise once again like the times of HD2.

if the phone ever get released in the states

Certainly the ONE should break out for HTC ... but lets face it, in the real (99% of buyers) world it will be smothered in a mountain of marketing foam by Samsung and Apple, and HTC will have to be happy picking up the pieces left over from the war of the big guys.
BUT .. their corporate performance WILL improve and they will be back in the running, but as the top dog in the rest of the pack.

This is HTC's window of opportunity as I can't see Samsung making the same mistake again especially if Samsung sell less then last year which I think they will.
Htc need to take a risk if the opportunity presents itself which it has. React HTC aggressively sell their own product, market it, advertise it properly and it's possible.

S2 moment! Not really. For majority of people out there the no SD card and non-removable battery is still an issue. If One had those then yes they could have nailed it.
HTC should now come out with a 4 or 4.3" version of One (similar premium build and features), maybe 720p SLCD3 screen, with a massive (2800mAH or bigger) battery and a SD card option for a very very good price (below S3). Then only it can see itself coming back to reckoning. They need that big battery in a device pretty badly coz as of now they have that tag of making phones with poor battery life. And its all about perceptions (at least for majority of people).

+1
for the "if ever released" comment
its already rolling for some customers in the UK
and HTC has said USA is their priority market
its us in the rest of the world who will have to wait
jsut a reminder:
Samsung Galaxy S 4 gets April 26th UK release date, preorders start March 28th

I doubt it, HTC don't have the marketing of Samsung or Apple to sell 90 million+ units.

Livebyte said:
I have a strong feeling that this is totally their Galaxy S2 moment.
This will be the point where they will finally be noticed.
HTC will keep releasing success after success.
This also includes the possibility of a real Phablet coming Q3 2013 (HTC Note?) instead of HTC One+
Then next year will be the year where they will seal the deal.
Samsung will burn to the ground.
And HTC will rise once again like the times of HD2.
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you do know that this is just a phone at the end of the day

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you do know that this is just a phone at the end of the day
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you do realize HTC is struggling? its ok if its fans want it to rise again before its late
and you can't deny there is a window of opportunity here
finally we already know your One X is too good for you to buy either

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you do realize HTC is nearly dying? its ok if its fans want it to rise again before its late
and you can't deny there is a window of opportunity here
finally we already know your One X is too good for you to buy either
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i do not mind the constant discussions regarding which phone is better than the other one but sometimes people tend to take it to the extreme..
yes my One X is to good to sell it..i know one day i say i am going to sell it and the next i will not but the matter is now not even the Nexus for me now is something i am interested in...my money is on a tablet device and from next friday i will have the money to purchase one...will wait for the next upgrade which is this time next year...for now my One x is more than good enough
As for a company dying..I feel sorry for people losing there jobs if that happens...Nothing else...i really do hope HTC do well as i really love the build quality of there phones but they do need to get there act together.

Goku80 said:
i do not mind the constant discussions regarding which phone is better than the other one but sometimes people tend to take it to the extreme..
yes my One X is to good to sell it..i know one day i say i am going to sell it and the next i will not but the matter is now not even the Nexus for me now is something i am interested in...my money is on a tablet device and from next friday i will have the money to purchase one...will wait for the next upgrade which is this time next year...for now my One x is more than good enough
As for a company dying..I feel sorry for people losing there jobs if that happens...Nothing else...i really do hope HTC do well as i really love the build quality of there phones but they do need to get there act together.
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well you might be in luck
considering they r launching only one flagship this year, and how agressive they are becoming
and the fact Google is worried about Samsung
I think we might see an HTC NEXUS this year

hamdir said:
well you might be in luck
considering they r launching only one flagship this year, and how agressive they are becoming
and the fact Google is worried about Samsung
I think we might see an HTC NEXUS this year
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Not this year, next year.
This year we are getting motorola nexus.

Dharkan said:
Not this year, next year.
This year we are getting motorola nexus.
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oh is there real leaks about this? about time to be honest
im truly siding with everyone honestly against sammy, all of them build good phones, i mean even the optimus G is nicely built
sadly LG is going Sammy's way with the pro...

hamdir said:
oh is there real leaks about this? about time to be honest
im truly siding with everyone honestly against sammy, all of them build good phones, i mean even the optimus G is nicely built
sadly LG is going Sammy's way with the pro...
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Oh I saw the specs told by Google, was that rumors? Let me find an english source, I saw them in turkish tech site.
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Yeah sorry it seems they are rumors.
4.7-inç Full HD screen
NVIDIA Tegra 4i cpu
16-megapiksel camera
5-megapiksel front camera (light and eyescrolling sensor)
2GB RAM
Bluetooth 4.0
2400Mah battery
Size: 131.2 x 66.7 x 7.9 mm
Rumored to be announced in Google IO in May.

hamdir said:
oh is there real leaks about this? about time to be honest
im truly siding with everyone honestly against sammy, all of them build good phones, i mean even the optimus G is nicely built
sadly LG is going Sammy's way with the pro...
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This thing looks like a moto nexus http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/13/4097778/motorola-google-phone-leak

Dharkan said:
Oh I saw the specs told by Google, was that rumors? Let me find an english source, I saw them in turkish tech site.
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Yeah sorry it seems they are rumors.
4.7-inç Full HD screen
NVIDIA Tegra 4i cpu
16-megapiksel camera
5-megapiksel front camera (light and eyescrolling sensor)
2GB RAM
Bluetooth 4.0
2400Mah battery
Size: 131.2 x 66.7 x 7.9 mm
Rumored to be announced in Google IO in May.
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what? T4i? this is step back...especially at 1080p
(the back camera is crazy how are they gonna deal with noise?)

joslicx said:
S2 moment! Not really. For majority of people out there the no SD card and non-removable battery is still an issue. If One had those then yes they could have nailed it.
HTC should now come out with a 4 or 4.3" version of One (similar premium build and features), maybe 720p SLCD3 screen, with a massive (2800mAH or bigger) battery and a SD card option for a very very good price (below S3). Then only it can see itself coming back to reckoning. They need that big battery in a device pretty badly coz as of now they have that tag of making phones with poor battery life. And its all about perceptions (at least for majority of people).
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I don't think no SD card and removable battery are an issue for most people at all, only some. 4 people I know really well have an SGS3, none of them have a second battery or bother with the SD card. In fact, I think two of them don't even know about these 'features'.
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HTC will be success only if the customers can get their phones in Hand in time......Delaying will kill brand loyaltiy

joslicx said:
S2 moment! Not really. For majority of people out there the no SD card and non-removable battery is still an issue. If One had those then yes they could have nailed it.
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lol, sure why not.
most people couldn't care less about sd card and definitely most people don't care about non-removable battery.
the only people that do care are phone nerds like yourself.
End of.

The sdcard argument is so played out. 32 and 64 gb storage isn't enough?
The removable battery argument I get but the new qualcomm processors allow charging to be very fast
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Another but different S4 vs One Thread

I have been reading a bunch of HTC One vs S4 threads and been watching them. And I feel like everyone is making the comparisons on each stock, which makes sense. But I was wondering which is better when rooted and both having a custom rom and kernel. Since I know that having a custom rom and kernel can make the overall performance better.
For Example, people were complaining about the lag on the S4 so they switched to the One. But I feel like if those people would've have rooted it and put a custom rom or kernel, it might have helped the lag.
So which device do you guys think is better with custom rom and kernel improvements?
Which one has a bigger improvement with custom roms and kernels?
Thanks guys And if there is a thread like this comparing the roms and kernels of each device against each other, then post a link and I can ask to close this thread.
Posted this on the One forum as well to see the arguments from both sides, since the majority of people replying to this will be from S4 users.

With all due respect--
I would copy the replies you got on the One Forum, but I doubt if we will need them.
To capsulize, comparisons are worthless and opinion only; not recommended by XDA; and doubt that many people have both phones rooted
Also, like many these threads have gotten old
If you are still deciding there are dozens of videos on both and development is good for either phone
Good luck on your decision
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Also, it looks like you have the One, so no need to Troll
I would vote to close thread--

I will never use another HTC phone as long as I live. After the lies they have put forth, I will never spend another time or minute with their device. As far as saying better its the GS4 hands down. Samsung revolutionizes the cellphone world where as other companies(HTC,Apple, and others) steal or "borrow" from them and blame that Samsung stole it. But Samsung will always push out as better in my opinion.
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perhaps if you remain indecisive for long enough on this matter you can wait until the galaxy s5 and htc two? or maybe just wait until the summer there may be a new stellar device that rubs all your fancies.
I tried both phones. s4 to the one back to s4. I dont necessarily suggest you do that. but if you canr decide whixh is better for you then you need to go play with them.
if you want removable battery, sd card and 5inch screen get the s4. if you cant live without those speakers, want an alumium unibody design, and prefer the one for other reasons then get it.
s4 will likely have more support if only for the reason that it sells more. s2 and 3 still have a large following so its logical.
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toxicpaulution said:
I will never use another HTC phone as long as I live. After the lies they have put forth, I will never spend another time or minute with their device. As far as saying better its the GS4 hands down. Samsung revolutionizes the cellphone world where as other companies(HTC,Apple, and others) steal or "borrow" from them and blame that Samsung stole it. But Samsung will always push out as better in my opinion.
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well htc made the first smartphone actually. so who is stealing what really? innovation is better than stagnation.
why dont I like the one? well I largely do. but I dont need my phone to be pretty. I think the s4 is too but whatever. its cased. it cost 700 bucks. if I could afford to damage it I would just buy both. amd I can't get over the sealed battery. s4 has a bigger battery and is thinner. where is the benefit to bury the the battery in there? you have to mutilate the device to change the battery. might as well throw it in the garbage when the time comes. its absurd. all for what? looks? I've probabky never needed an sd card. but if I samsung asked if id prefer my s4 without it I would laugh.
build quality I get sort of. you want a nice strong device. ok cool. but is your phine a tool or a status? the single reason I wanted the one was the speakers.

s384 said:
perhaps if you remain indecisive for long enough on this matter you can wait until the galaxy s5 and htc two? or maybe just wait until the summer there may be a new stellar device that rubs all your fancies.
I tried both phones. s4 to the one back to s4. I dont necessarily suggest you do that. but if you canr decide whixh is better for you then you need to go play with them.
if you want removable battery, sd card and 5inch screen get the s4. if you cant live without those speakers, want an alumium unibody design, and prefer the one for other reasons then get it.
s4 will likely have more support if only for the reason that it sells more. s2 and 3 still have a large following so its logical.
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well htc made the first smartphone actually. so who is stealing what really? innovation is better than stagnation.
why dont I like the one? well I largely do. but I dont need my phone to be pretty. I think the s4 is too but whatever. its cased. it cost 700 bucks. if I could afford to damage it I would just buy both. amd I can't get over the sealed battery. s4 has a bigger battery and is thinner. where is the benefit to bury the the battery in there? you have to mutilate the device to change the battery. might as well throw it in the garbage when the time comes. its absurd. all for what? looks? I've probabky never needed an sd card. but if I samsung asked if id prefer my s4 without it I would laugh.
build quality I get sort of. you want a nice strong device. ok cool. but is your phine a tool or a status? the single reason I wanted the one was the speakers.
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Just because someone made the first smartphone doesn't mean they are the best? You don't own a Ford because they were the first cars do you? Didn't think so. And its because of that logic you are trying to say that your theory is better than mine. HTC has horrible customer service. Their phones are medicore at best and they lie. Big lies. And its because of that I wont own another HTC device.
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Just because someone made the first smartphone doesn't mean they are the best? You don't own a Ford because they were the first cars do you? Didn't think so. And its because of that logic you are trying to say that your theory is better than mine. HTC has horrible customer service. Their phones are medicore at best and they lie. Big lies. And its because of that I wont own another HTC device.
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i never made the arguement you set out. simply replied to you saying htc steals ideas and I said htc made the first smartphone.
as for customer service. well samsung could suck too. I've never had a reason to call them. and I dont think htc has a big meeting with all customer service reps and says: ok guys. lets all be giant dicks and trest our customers like dirt. im sure its an individual thing. I call my provider a lot. sometimes I get people who domt know anything. other times I get knowledgeable friendly people. its customer service.
you cant say companies steal. its much more complicated and you know it. if company A decides to implimate something and company B sees that and knows its a good idea, they will do it. its not stealing. its how we innovate. its different if you infringe on a patent no matter how frivolous. the bottom line counts above all for any company. samsung doesnt care about you any more than htc.
and what has htc lied to you about? they also had the first 1080p screen then samsung implimented it. your logic would suggest samsung stole that too. what if samsung moved the speaker to the front? face it. phones didnt get to where they are today just because. same way cars change designs. add features.
yea im done

your friends/associates/loved ones' reaction to seeing your new edge

we all know the edge is a head turner with its unique design and this being a limited edition device not many people would have owned it by now. So what did the people close to you or even random strangers in the streets say when they saw your new phone?
post the amusing comments you've heard!

Someone: Is that iPhone 7?
I: No iPhone 10 S
Bring it on.....

A few of my work colleagues commented " Samsung are unbelievable" others asked if it was Note 4...most people around me don't even know that a device called Galaxy Note Edge exists.
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joganjani said:
someone: Is that iphone 7?
I: No iphone 10 s
bring it on.....
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lol ?

there's no better form of advertisement then for your close friends to see how awesome your phone is for them to be enticed to buy as well, invisible, hehe

avenging said:
there's no better form of advertisement then for your close friends to see how awesome your phone is for them to be enticed to buy as well, invisible, hehe
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When people hear about the price of the phone, they think I'm crazy and loaded.
I am neither. ?

invisiblesense said:
When people hear about the price of the phone, they think I'm crazy and loaded.
I am neither. ?
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I read a ton of reviews and all were saying how incredibly expensive the Note Edge was even on contract. Yet no one even blinks an eye at the price of the iPhone 6+ 64GB, and its the same price. I guess for the same reasons that no one blinks at the AppleWatches being $350 for the cheap one (I think the other 2 are supposed to be something like $1k and $5k?), but people talk about how expensive a $200 AndroidWear watch is. SMH.

brain21 said:
I read a ton of reviews and all were saying how incredibly expensive the Note Edge was even on contract. Yet no one even blinks an eye at the price of the iPhone 6+ 64GB, and its the same price. I guess for the same reasons that no one blinks at the AppleWatches being $350 for the cheap one (I think the other 2 are supposed to be something like $1k and $5k?), but people talk about how expensive a $200 AndroidWear watch is. SMH.
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Yeah, this also annoys me very much. The two phones are not even comparable, just look at the features/functionality the Note Edge has to offer compared to iPhone 6+... Seems like Apple just has to stick its logo on something and it could ask for any price which people would pay without questioning. Crazy!!

invisiblesense said:
Yeah, this also annoys me very much. The two phones are not even comparable, just look at the features/functionality the Note Edge has to offer compared to iPhone 6+... Seems like Apple just has to stick its logo on something and it could ask for any price which people would pay without questioning. Crazy!!
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Yep. That's what they do. Put there logo on crap and make money, people eat it up and buy it.
It's funny that you have to ask someone which iPhone they have because they all look the same lol.
But yea the note edge is light years above the iPhone 6 +. And for those saying it's a 64gb not 32. Well the edge has a sd port which wins. But yet people still fuss about it being a high price device. And it's only what $75 to $100 more then the note 4 and note 3 @ launch.

xile6 said:
Yep. That's what they do. Put there logo on crap and make money, people eat it up and buy it.
It's funny that you have to ask someone which iPhone they have because they all look the same lol.
But yea the note edge is light years above the iPhone 6 +. And for those saying it's a 64gb not 32. Well the edge has a sd port which wins. But yet people still fuss about it being a high price device. And it's only what $75 to $100 more then the note 4 and note 3 @ launch.
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Exactly! This is made worse by the fact the so called experts (reviewers) also make a big thing about iPhone 6+ and the price of edge. At least they should know better...

xile6 said:
people eat it up and buy it.
It's funny that you have to ask someone which iPhone they have because they all look the same lol.
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Well you gotta give Apple credit for their marketing genius and power, that's for sure. And Android phones aren't the only ones.
Microsoft bought the rights to get their Surface tablet as the official tablet of the NFL. You see signs that say Microsoft Surface all over the place, but the sportscasters and local sportscasters were calling them iPads on the air. And then apparently Microsoft tried to correct them and now they are calling them (as of a week or so ago) "iPad-like devices". SMH. And of course we know that Android having had GooglePay (or whatever it's called) ISIS, and Samsung even has their own version, and they gained no traction until Apple came along. Now Apple has a watch coming out next year that, as far as I can tell, looks like a bad design (it's no sleeker than the Samsung Gears, the Gear solo is more advanced, and the LG GwatchR and Moto360 both look WAY better, as does the Pebble), and is about twice the cost of the competition. Expect lots of hipsters to be wearing them by summer.
This is what happens when you are the real innovator in not only devices and design, but marketing as well (not including the watches). Now that Apple is, essentially, becoming a bit stagnant and stale (even the fanboys were saying a month or so ago "Apple has to do something new with the iPad. Sales are dropping and people seem to care less"), it's a good time for innovators to leap-frog them, but unfortunately I don't see that happening (yet). The Samsung Youn (sp?) glass demo of a year or two ago was really impressive. I could see Samsung in the next couple of years coming out with a device that is a tablet and folds into a phone and vice-versa. That would be a huge hit even though it will likely be pretty expensive.
And it is all fueled by a lot of consumer ignorance and trend following as well. Apple completely understands this and caters to it. When people ask me which to get (because I have had both) I tell them that they both can accomplish basically the same thing, so if they want simplicity and ease of use, go with the iPhone. If they want tweakbility and some more powerful features, and better/longer device and OS support, go with Android. Windows phones are surprisingly nice as well, but most people that get them, even though they are happy, have iPhone and Android envy and wonder what they might be missing.
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Someone: Is that iPhone 7?
I: No iPhone 10 S
Bring it on.....
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Thats great. I'll just have to make something up that sounds like some super secret beta or something. "Oh, it's the iPhone 6+ Crypto edition. It's only available for CIA, NSA, and the Secret Service. I shouldn't even really be talking about it." I just need to come up with some cool looking wallpaper or theme to back it up.

brain21 said:
Well you gotta give Apple credit for their marketing genius and power, that's for sure. And Android phones aren't the only ones.
Microsoft bought the rights to get their Surface tablet as the official tablet of the NFL. You see signs that say Microsoft Surface all over the place, but the sportscasters and local sportscasters were calling them iPads on the air. And then apparently Microsoft tried to correct them and now they are calling them (as of a week or so ago) "iPad-like devices". SMH. And of course we know that Android having had GooglePay (or whatever it's called) ISIS, and Samsung even has their own version, and they gained no traction until Apple came along. Now Apple has a watch coming out next year that, as far as I can tell, looks like a bad design (it's no sleeker than the Samsung Gears, the Gear solo is more advanced, and the LG GwatchR and Moto360 both look WAY better, as does the Pebble), and is about twice the cost of the competition. Expect lots of hipsters to be wearing them by summer.
This is what happens when you are the real innovator in not only devices and design, but marketing as well (not including the watches). Now that Apple is, essentially, becoming a bit stagnant and stale (even the fanboys were saying a month or so ago "Apple has to do something new with the iPad. Sales are dropping and people seem to care less"), it's a good time for innovators to leap-frog them, but unfortunately I don't see that happening (yet). The Samsung Youn (sp?) glass demo of a year or two ago was really impressive. I could see Samsung in the next couple of years coming out with a device that is a tablet and folds into a phone and vice-versa. That would be a huge hit even though it will likely be pretty expensive.
And it is all fueled by a lot of consumer ignorance and trend following as well. Apple completely understands this and caters to it. When people ask me which to get (because I have had both) I tell them that they both can accomplish basically the same thing, so if they want simplicity and ease of use, go with the iPhone. If they want tweakbility and some more powerful features, and better/longer device and OS support, go with Android. Windows phones are surprisingly nice as well, but most people that get them, even though they are happy, have iPhone and Android envy and wonder what they might be missing.
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Thats great. I'll just have to make something up that sounds like some super secret beta or something. "Oh, it's the iPhone 6+ Crypto edition. It's only available for CIA, NSA, and the Secret Service. I shouldn't even really be talking about it." I just need to come up with some cool looking wallpaper or theme to back it up.
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Nah don't give apple credit for anything.
When they ask what's that.
Just say it's and "edge above the rest".
Lol, now watch Samsung steal my saying.. just note you heard it here first by me.
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xile6 said:
Nah don't give apple credit for anything.
When they ask what's that.
Just say it's and "edge above the rest".
Lol, now watch Samsung steal my saying.. just note you heard it here first by me.
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"Just note . . . " huehuehue

Showed a buddy and he thought it was pretty sweet (thought the camera was awesome). Then his wife saw it and said, "Holy Crap!! That thing is so cool".

i have it on with Samsung flip cover. i showed it to my coworker. i said "have you seen this?" she said "i have one of those". i said "are you sure? it' just came out today". she said "i have it at home". hahahahah
she probably thinking it' a ipad mini.

netnerd said:
i have it on with Samsung flip cover. i showed it to my coworker. i said "have you seen this?" she said "i have one of those". i said "are you sure? it' just came out today". she said "i have it at home". hahahahah
she probably thinking it' a ipad mini.
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ha figures.
I showed it to one of my co-workers on Thursday and she was really impressed with it. Not so much the price though. lol
TS

My nice immediately started hounding me for my Note 4.. But she hated on me nonetheless for this device.
As time goes on and more application developers figure out how to make their apps "Edge Aware" and use that realestate, life will be golden!!

My co workers all ran and got the LG G3 last month. Thinking Samsung design wasn't going to change. Then when I showed them my Galaxy Edge. Everyone wanted to hold it and they were shocked. A few said they were going to get one.

Just yesterday a girl at the checkout ask if it was the galaxy mega.
I told her no no its the edge, then I till the phone on its and show her the edge. Her eyes lite up lol.
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My boy got the phone I want! That ish is fiiiiyah! Everybody at my job wants it now and I'm like stop biting and go get the Note 4 like y'all originally planned on!!! ?

I go into stores and ask if they have any cases and they always say "you got one" and immediately wanna see it. I even had some guys take some pictures of them using it......lol