Hi all,
Finally i got my z3 compact,
but i'm also a victim of sim slot flap poping up issue:crying::crying:
Since i can't replace it with sony for some reasons,
I planned to look into this issue for myself and finally FIXED IT,
Here is how i did it............
Caution: This method worked for me and i don't know it'll work for all, and you are responsible for whatever you do bcoz i'm not forcing you to do this, i'm just sharing my experience.
Ok guy all you need is a sharp object, either any safety pin or something which is quite sharp,
I used sim ejector tool which came with my iPhone 5s,
Now open the flap and you will see a black rubber which is inside the flap attached to it, This rubber helps in keeping the flap attached to phone's panel,
Now you'll find a small gap between that rubber and the inner plastic of the flap,
All you have to do is scratch that area with the sharp tool gently and you'll see some plastics get peeled off,
Don't scratch too much as you'll lose that rubber, so scratch that are between the flap's inner plastic and rubber and scratch out some plastic from it,
Now after that clean that scratched plastic bits and close that flap, Voila, it doesn't pop out again,
And i also tested the pressure sensor, all Ok,
Note: Its all upto you, please replace your phone if you have valid warranty.
Enjoy
You can also just buy a replacement flap online from third-party resellers
Im an expert in it! Had the same situation with brand new Z2, and now 3 days ago when I bought Z3C same situation happened. Here is what you have to do. The problem comes from lets call it stick, the stick is a connector between flap and your phone, yes that little black flexible piece of plastic. You need to find out in witch direction your flap pops out. For example, mine with Xperia Z3C starts popping in direction of the front panel, so the stick is pushing it in that direction. What I did was: opened flap and simply bend the stick in the opposite direction of popping. And again close the flap, check whether you went too far or not or you maybe you should tried harder. Find the moment it stops popping in none of directions and simply stay in its position.
Kondzioz said:
What I did was: opened flap and simply bend the stick in the opposite direction of popping. And again close the flap, check whether you went too or not or you maybe you should tried harder. Find the moment it stops popping in none of directions and simply stay in its position.
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I had this issue with my Z3C and did the same to solve. It worked for me.
The flaps on the Z3C are so filmsy, they seem so prone to getting warped over time.
Kondzioz said:
Im an expert in it! Had the same situation with brand new Z2, and now 3 days ago when I bought Z3C same situation happened. Here is what you have to do. The problem comes from lets call it stick, the stick is a connector between flap and your phone, yes that little black flexible piece of plastic. You need to find out in witch direction your flap pops out. For example, mine with Xperia Z3C starts popping in direction of the front panel, so the stick is pushing it in that direction. What I did was: opened flap and simply bend the stick in the opposite direction of popping. And again close the flap, check whether you went too far or not or you maybe you should tried harder. Find the moment it stops popping in none of directions and simply stay in its position.
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I have searched all the internet but couldn't find a solution which works expect yours. It worked well for me. Very easy and helpful. Thank you! :good:
thanks, your guide helped me correct the issue
Thanks @Kondzioz , that was such an easy solution to a problem that was really starting to frustrate me!
degraaff said:
You can also just buy a replacement flap online from third-party resellers
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e.g. $7.79 for both flaps:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Orig...55.html?ws_ab_test=201407_3,201444_5,201409_1
I just used a very thin double sided tape and call it a day since I could charge using the magnetic thingy and transfer files using bluetooth.
Kondzioz said:
Im an expert in it! Had the same situation with brand new Z2, and now 3 days ago when I bought Z3C same situation happened. Here is what you have to do. The problem comes from lets call it stick, the stick is a connector between flap and your phone, yes that little black flexible piece of plastic. You need to find out in witch direction your flap pops out. For example, mine with Xperia Z3C starts popping in direction of the front panel, so the stick is pushing it in that direction. What I did was: opened flap and simply bend the stick in the opposite direction of popping. And again close the flap, check whether you went too far or not or you maybe you should tried harder. Find the moment it stops popping in none of directions and simply stay in its position.
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Wow, I can't believe how simple that was. I thought the gasket material was preventing the flap from closing properly. But after reading your post, I slightly bent the stick toward the same side of the flap that was elevated and voila! It settled properly in the slot and hasn't popped up since! Thank you!
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PuffDaddy_d said:
Wow, I can't believe how simple that was. I thought the gasket material was preventing the flap from closing properly. But after reading your post, I slightly bent the stick toward the same side of the flap that was elevated and voila! It settled properly in the slot and hasn't popped up since! Thank you!
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I searched long time for a solution read many solution suggests but nothing helped until I do the same thing, but I found out myself by trying.
I can confirm this is the solution it will not pop out again maybe you have to bent it a bit more so the material get used to its new bend position but after 2-3 times it will settle down and get closed like a bomb :good:
vasiulla said:
And i also tested the pressure sensor, all Ok,
Note: Its all upto you, please replace your phone if you have valid warranty.
Enjoy
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Hi,
I just sent ny 2 days old phone back to the seller because I felt a little bump when I glide finger over the nano sim cover. Didn't come across this solution earlier.
About the pressure sensor, just wanted confirmation from you guys of whether the pressure drops in some time when still being applied?
When I applied pressure with all the flaps closed, the pressure increased but slowly started to reduce the next moment. This makes it evident that the air was leaking out from somewhere. Does it happen the same with you guys? or does the pressure persist for a longer duration?
It worked
Thank you Kondzioz
Just bend the stick in opposite direction and it will remain there forever. Mine was popping from the up part(from screen) and I just bended the stick that holds the Sim slot flap in dirrection of the screen and it worked. So easy...
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Im an expert in it! Had the same situation with brand new Z2, and now 3 days ago when I bought Z3C same situation happened. Here is what you have to do. The problem comes from lets call it stick, the stick is a connector between flap and your phone, yes that little black flexible piece of plastic. You need to find out in witch direction your flap pops out. For example, mine with Xperia Z3C starts popping in direction of the front panel, so the stick is pushing it in that direction. What I did was: opened flap and simply bend the stick in the opposite direction of popping. And again close the flap, check whether you went too far or not or you maybe you should tried harder. Find the moment it stops popping in none of directions and simply stay in its position.
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This is brilliant thanks. I got my phone from the service, where they exchanged the flaps, which were fine before, but now the SIM flap was opening automatically and driving me insane. Bending it helped.
I had this problem. When I first took it out the box I suspected it wasn't closing properly due to the long serial tab sheet thing that pops out slightly. I pulled it out with tweezers then cut a tiny bit off the end with some nail scissors - just enough so the white tip was still visible. When you push it back in there's enough of it poking out to grab it with tweezers and the flap now stays closed.
I bought one of those magnetic charging leads as well as I was gonna get fed up opening it every time to charge it. Works very well. If you struggle getting them open though I recommend a guitar pick.
Gently bending the connecting arm also helped me achieve a better, more flush seal of the flap. Good shout.
Kondzioz said:
Im an expert in it! Had the same situation with brand new Z2, and now 3 days ago when I bought Z3C same situation happened. Here is what you have to do. The problem comes from lets call it stick, the stick is a connector between flap and your phone, yes that little black flexible piece of plastic. You need to find out in witch direction your flap pops out. For example, mine with Xperia Z3C starts popping in direction of the front panel, so the stick is pushing it in that direction. What I did was: opened flap and simply bend the stick in the opposite direction of popping. And again close the flap, check whether you went too far or not or you maybe you should tried harder. Find the moment it stops popping in none of directions and simply stay in its position.
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Maaan, that was freakin' awesome!!!
I've had this phone a year ago and had this issue with it, I hated it, then I sold it (for different reasons) and now I've come back to this phone and found the same issue with the flap.. It started getting on my nerves again and this worked perfectly! I'm in love with this phone again
please any video my english not that good
frdan said:
please any video my english not that good
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Man, frdan, my English isn't so bad and I still didn't understand what they're on about.
What do they mean by flap opening in a certain direction??
Doesn't the flap open perpendicular to the front panel?
My problem is the top part of the flap stays slightly open.
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OK managed to snatch one of the only/few tilts available in my area last Friday and now, after a week of use I've noticed I hate the ATT case I bought: The leather, plastic clip, top-loading case, SUCKS!
I work in an ER so speed, quality, ease of use is paramount. My major problem with this case is that 1. I press buttons trying to pull it out and 2. the belt clip is not centered well so when I try to orient it horizontally on my scrubs the opening end tips downward toward the floor.
SO, I've been searching around the forums, looked at a TON of different cases. So far I like the look of this: http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000164&products_id=6562
BUT I don't like the plastic over the keyboard and how annoying is that flap when you're trying to talk on the phone? I don't want to be fiddling with a GD flap while talking. Does the flap flip all the way back on itself?
SO, I need a well-balanced, high quality plastic clip (quick releases are good), that does not have cumbersome flaps (or at least has flaps that fold back on the case/go away when used as a phone).
Thoughts?
Thanks
Does this case work for you?
http://www.boxwave.com/products/dlsleeve/htc-kaiser-designio-leather-sleeve_2642.htm
I received mine this week and am satisfied. There is no hole to access the reset button, but that's a minor issue.
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Does this case work for you?
http://www.boxwave.com/products/dlsleeve/htc-kaiser-designio-leather-sleeve_2642.htm
I received mine this week and am satisfied. There is no hole to access the reset button, but that's a minor issue.
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It seems that you can't slide the keyboard out when using this case... am I mistaken?
h0mersimps0n said:
SO, I've been searching around the forums, looked at a TON of different cases. So far I like the look of this: http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000164&products_id=6562
BUT I don't like the plastic over the keyboard and how annoying is that flap when you're trying to talk on the phone? I don't want to be fiddling with a GD flap while talking. Does the flap flip all the way back on itself?
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I don't know about the book-style case, but I have the PDAir flip case, which has the flap hinge at the bottom. On that case, the front flap folds back very nicely. The snap strap on the top that holds the front flap closed doesn't fold back so well, but I've only had the case 2 weeks so it'll probably loosen up a bit over time.
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It seems that you can't slide the keyboard out when using this case... am I mistaken?
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To slide the keyboard, you do need to unsnap the cover and fold it back. The phone can still be left in the case. I rarely use the keyboard, but this could be a major issue for those that do.
skins07 said:
Does this case work for you?
http://www.boxwave.com/products/dlsleeve/htc-kaiser-designio-leather-sleeve_2642.htm
I received mine this week and am satisfied. There is no hole to access the reset button, but that's a minor issue.
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Do you have any pics with your phone in it?
Have you had any problems with the belt clip screw coming loose?
I think I need something that protects the screen too... I'll have to think it over...
3WAYGEEK- thank you for the reply- that's exactly the info I was looking for, now I just need to find someone who has the side flap...
Thanks guys
h0mersimps0n said:
Do you have any pics with your phone in it?
Have you had any problems with the belt clip screw coming loose?
I think I need something that protects the screen too... I'll have to think it over...
3WAYGEEK- thank you for the reply- that's exactly the info I was looking for, now I just need to find someone who has the side flap...
Thanks guys
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Sorry, I have no pictures. There are images without the phone on the Boxwave site.
There have not been any problems with the clip and screw.
I do use a screen protector, but this case does leave the screen open, a feature I was seeking.
It is just me or does the battery cover really not clip on very well at all?
Mine is constantly falling off and is not easy to clip back on solidly
Yeah i heard of this problem. The guy in the shop where i bought my phone told me that this is a problem of the first build devices of the X1. i was lucky, because i got one of the "secound generation".
maybe you are able to change it?
Sweet, if its not happening for everyone I will demand a replacement
how can you see which generation device you have ?
Kr
i don't know where you can see this exactly. If you'r battery cover fits on you'r phone everything seems alright.
mine is letting loose of it's clips too on one side of the X1. It's really annoying cauze I have to push it back into the right position every time. But it's not falling off or so. It's just not tight on the phone.
I had this problem, but it's easily fixed... if you take the cover off the back and find the two metal prongs which would touch the cover when placed over it (the sony ericsson symbol side). simply press them down slightly. i think they're there for a reason so make sure they still touch the cover. hope this helps.
Joel
blink182_joel said:
I had this problem, but it's easily fixed... if you take the cover off the back and find the two metal prongs which would touch the cover when placed over it (the sony ericsson symbol side). simply press them down slightly. i think they're there for a reason so make sure they still touch the cover. hope this helps.
Joel
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Same here. I just took the back panel off and gave it a first squeeze, now fits pretty well.
Wish I had thought to do you method though, would have been neater as the back does bulge a little now but doesn't fall off anymore. Sadly I hadn't spotted that the clips were addons rather than moulded into the metal.
I must say that I'm not too confident about the batterycover at this moment. It still hangs on, but not too well. On my X1 it tends to jump off automaticly when I put the cover on, luckily it hasn't happened yet though. Seems there's some tension pushing the cover out.
had the same problem. i fixed it by expanding the little two bumps on the site, which hold the cover with a knife.
Hi all,
I just got the X1 yesterday and im wondering how to open the battery cover. the cover seems so egg-like thin and im so afraid if i force it the wrong way, it would break. Kinda regret to let the salesman assemble the battery and sim card for me.
So anyone knows how to open it nice and easy?
there are 2 groves at the bottom of the cover, put your fingers(nails) and pull. weird system i know, thats what i thought when i first got it
Page 3 in the manual
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/support/phones/detailed/userguide/x1?cc=us&lc=en
just use force its all good, thats how I succeeded
LOL, funny that you think it's easier to ask in the forum instead of reading the manual.
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LOL, funny that you think it's easier to ask in the forum instead of reading the manual.
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i did read the manual and i have tried it. but its still quite difficult to open with that instruction. how can the cover be lifted just like that? i asked myself.
now that i have realised you need to push with your fingernails, my fingernails r actually quite short. so i finally asked the forum if anyone got special tricks to open the back cover.
I turn the phone upside down and flip it over (so the camera end is towards me).
I put my index fingers on the end away from me (the end with the scrollpad).
Using my thumbnails, I slightly pull the away from the casing at the notches and push straight up.
I try not to put any strain on the plate as there are already weak spots in the casing and I don't want to contribute to them opening up in cracks.
I had this issue too. I thought the manual implied squeezing the sides and then pulling.
I finally found a youtube vid on how to disassemble the X1 and he used a guitar pick to get under the case and pull it up. Eventually got my nail under it...
mine sometimes fall off on it's own account if i have it in a pocket with enough room for it to move around a bit
dude, it's metal, not that easy to be broken, use your nail then, pull one side.
There is a huge thread regarding cracked cases with the X1.
I, myself am on my 5th one, all previous ones had cracked cases.
The cover is very strong but the surrounding case is very weak.
I would use extreme care when removing the lid.
Gently insert finger nail until the lid releases one side at a time.
I feel sure this could contribute to the cracks in some cases.
reconer said:
Hi all,
I just got the X1 yesterday and im wondering how to open the battery cover. the cover seems so egg-like thin and im so afraid if i force it the wrong way, it would break. Kinda regret to let the salesman assemble the battery and sim card for me.
So anyone knows how to open it nice and easy?
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The battery cover is a pain in the ass, get a flat screw and ply it open. Seriously.
Hi All
I spent the last 2 days trying to find a simple solution to this problem. Even though my phone is still under manufacturers warranty and Service Providers warranty I decided to just do this as working carefully there will be no indication that the phone has been opened or the "fix" has been applied
I for one couldn't take my phone to a service centre as they would have booked in my phone and gave me some Nokia 3100 knock-off budget phone for one and the repair would have taken 21 days and having business requirements that my phone needs to meet I decided to just do it myself.
So I decided to open it up myself and fix it and here is the guide on how to permanently fix the echo that people get when phoning you.
Problem:
When you receive or make a call people on the other end of the line hear a echo of themselves and this might be intermittent but seem to be worse when having any type of cover on the phone.
Reason:
The reason this occurs is because the speaker depicted in the 3rd photo labelled as "B" has a rubber seal at the bottom of it that has gone loose from the casing by either a drop or some vibration that is making the speaker's sound go into the phone and picked up by the NC (Noise cancellation) microphone shown in the same photo as "A" rather than be isolated and out the speaker hole on the front of the phone.
Fix:
This fix is fairly simple and permanent. You only need a 5mm x 12mm piece of cardboard or think paper that is around 0.5mm thick that can be used as a buffer.
Procedure:
Step 1:
Picture 1 Shows the phone screws that should be removed 1st depicted by round red circles. Keep the screws in the same order as you remove them as only 4 of the 7 screws have locktite on them and be sure when you replace them you put them back in the same position.
Step 2:
Picture 1 As depicted from 1 to 6 is the easiest way to follow to unclip your back and front cover from one another to not break any of the clips. The back cover is very rugged so don't be afraid to unclip it as it is unlikely to break.
See Below Picture no1
Step 3:
Picture 2 is how it should look like when the back cover has been removed. We will only be focused on the area in the red block called ZZ
See Below Picture no2
Step 4:
Picture 3 shows the 2 components that's interfering with one another. "A" is the NC microphone sensor. Be sure to check that the sensor is properly inserted into the rubber sleeve covering it. "B" is the speaker and is glued with some ridiculously little amount of glue into the housing of "B" and can be lifted with a tweezers or some small object to be able to lift it out of the housing in "B"
See Below Picture no3
Step 5:
Picture 4 Loosen the speaker by just moving it in this aspect north and south a bit until it can be lifted up. Please note the arrow as it flips the way the arrow is pointing to expose the casing it is housed in. Clean out the housing of any dirt and wipe the speaker off as well of any dirt or substance that might elevate the speaker a little bit in its housing.
Step 6:
Picture 4 Flip the speaker back into its housing and firmly press it down so that it seats itself well in the housing. The rubber that the speaker is surrounded with should press firmly in the housing to seal it of any noise coming into the phone.
See Below Picture no4
Step 7:
This is where you use the piece of cardboard or thick paper of 5mm x 12mm by 0.5mm thick and place it over the speaker. I recommend cutting up a business card as they are the correct thickness. When looking at Picture 4 the cardboard should be covering the whole red block as depicted by "C" and should look like Picture 5 when placed
See Below Picture no5
Step 8:
Close up the phone and screw everything back together. The piece of cardboard or thick paper will ensure that the casing press the speaker tightly in place and keep it there without letting it leak into the phone to cause the echo effect for people calling you.
Step 9:
Enjoy calls without any echo effect.
This is all very simple to do and my echo has gone away completely. The replacement part they are referencing to in other topics is not really the problem and has nothing to do with it. In the process of replacing that part the speaker gets loosened and removed out of the housing and upon putting the phone back together they securely glue the speaker back in place and thats why they get the same results.
If this guide helped please post and say so. The problem has no relation to software or anything other than the speaker leaking sound into the phone being picked up by the NC.
Hope this helps. My phone is working 100% without any issues.
nice find!!! Ill wait for some more feedback untill i test this myself
So its samsung's fault that we have problems!
I tested 3 different brand new phones and all had the issue. Does this mean that Samsung fails to correctly assemble all of it's phones?!
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nice find!!! Ill wait for some more feedback untill i test this myself
So its samsung's fault that we have problems!
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Ye to some extent. They should have used more glue to be honest but then it would have made it impossible to replace the part if it should break.
I fixed mine this morning this way that's why I made this post because I couldn't find anything to really help me to get this resolved and this is definitely the fix for it.
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I tested 3 different brand new phones and all had the issue. Does this mean that Samsung fails to correctly assemble all of it's phones?!
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Think about it this way. Anything comes loose with vibration. Maybe the delivery company man handled the boxes a bit on delivery or the vibration on the phone itself while being shipped could have loosened it as well.
Remember the Speaker needs to be completely sealed off from the internals of the phone and that's why you need the buffer so that the casing can keep it firmly pressed in place and sealed off from the internals.
Been on the phone a lot today and every person I ask tells me there is absolutely no echo.
And that coming from a 100% guaranteed echo for the last month
so, anyone else tested this?
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so, anyone else tested this?
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I would seem that ppl will probably do it and then not come back to post it worked because my "Thank You" count went up yet no replies
If your phone does this why not just do it? You have nothing to lose
Fixeeeed!!
OMG! It really worked thank you
I have tried this and it still seems hit and miss.
The case i use is a CaseMate Tough, it still echoes with this case fitted. If I use my other case a CaseMate Slim, it still echoes to a degree but not as bad.
Definatley no echo with no case though.
On a side note and not a whinge, probably worth mentioning in your guide which way the buttons go around when they fall out when you take the back off
hi toxic dust Thanks for your guide,i didn't apply the fix yet...i'm italian so it's alittle bit difficult for me to follow and understand every step.
Is it ok to use insulating tape (like black tape)??
And did i understand properly ...you have to cover with the tape the whole "C" area highlighted in red?
Thank you very much
Thanks, will try it.
You sir, are a genius!
I don't have the echo problem (even with my Otterbox) but I will definitely keep this thread in mind if something comes up.
Thanks.
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hi toxic dust Thanks for your guide,i didn't apply the fix yet...i'm italian so it's alittle bit difficult for me to follow and understand every step.
Is it ok to use insulating tape (like black tape)??
And did i understand properly ...you have to cover with the tape the whole "C" area highlighted in red?
Thank you very much
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I prefer not to use anything with glue on it. You could probably use insulating tape (black tape) but you have to remember there are heat distribution on the inside of your phone and it might stick now but with heat applied any glue a specially on tape like that becomes soft and might short your phone as glue becomes conductive when in a liquid form.
Thick paper wont conduct at all and heat has no effect on it hence the preferance to a solid piece of thick paper or cardboard.
I used a Business card and cut that to the size I needed. I'm sure you could find a Business card of some sorts lying around
Yes. You have cover the complete section marked as "C". You will see that the marked section is the complete speaker. Just make sure that the paper is properly sized and is on it directly because you need it to securely press the speaker in place.
Definatley no echo with no case though.
On a side note and not a whinge, probably worth mentioning in your guide which way the buttons go around when they fall out when you take the back off
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Mine was echoing without a case so for me its a 100% fix
The buttons can actually go in any way round. It will just make your button a bit more stiff to press. If you want the button smooth it has little hinges. Those hinges have a little dent in them on the 1 side. Ensure that those dents show to the screen side.
Mine alsof does it without a case. I think I'm going to try it in a few days!
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Thx toxicdust. Your solution worked perfectly!!!
I had this echo problem since I started using the Samsung Galaxy S2 with a Melkco case and was frustrated about it. Then I decided to buy a larger accupack (Samsung 2000 mAh type EB-K1A2E). This came with a separate backcover so I needed another case. The new flipcase (Samsung EF-C1A2B) is compatible with this larger accu. I hoped with this new (Samsung!) case the echo would have disappeared, but no, it was not! After reading about this echo problem in a different forums I stumbled on your solution. This was the first one that was likely to be a good solution and not some quirky workaround. So I started following your instructions and can now say the echo is completely gone! Wow man, thank you for this. Some extra details: It was easy to take the 7 screws out, but a little uncomfortable to open the back after that. Most easy is to simply use your fingernail in between the front and back of the housing on the side and go around. In my case the speaker seemed not as loose as in your case, so I didn't bother to try further to take it out. Only thing I did was checking the fixing of the two mics (seemed okay), pushed the speaker unit carefully in its housing (but did not seem to move though) and put a small piece of a business card on the speaker as you indicated. See the white piece in the picture below. I think I made it al little bit bigger then your 12 x 5 mm. The acoustical feedback loop has broken this way, so it is a perfect solution which only takes 10 minutes to do.
I am convinced. I will try it tomorrow
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dutchiek said:
Thx toxicdust. Your solution worked perfectly!!!
I had this echo problem since I started using the Samsung Galaxy S2 with a Melkco case and was frustrated about it. Then I decided to buy a larger accupack (Samsung 2000 mAh type EB-K1A2E). This came with a separate backcover so I needed another case. The new flipcase (Samsung EF-C1A2B) is compatible with this larger accu. I hoped with this new (Samsung!) case the echo would have disappeared, but no, it was not! After reading about this echo problem in a different forums I stumbled on your solution. This was the first one that was likely to be a good solution and not some quirky workaround. So I started following your instructions and can now say the echo is completely gone! Wow man, thank you for this. Some extra details: It was easy to take the 7 screws out, but a little uncomfortable to open the back after that. Most easy is to simply use your fingernail in between the front and back of the housing on the side and go around. In my case the speaker seemed not as loose as in your case, so I didn't bother to try further to take it out. Only thing I did was checking the fixing of the two mics (seemed okay), pushed the speaker unit carefully in its housing (but did not seem to move though) and put a small piece of a business card on the speaker as you indicated. See the white piece in the picture below. I think I made it al little bit bigger then your 12 x 5 mm. The acoustical feedback loop has broken this way, so it is a perfect solution which only takes 10 minutes to do.
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Ye I had the same thing. No matter where I googled there was absolutely no solution and decided to trouble shoot myself as I wont be waiting 21 days to get my phone back with "No fault Found" response from them in any ways. I also have the extended battery and that made me also use they Silicone case that makes it even worse
After seeing how rugged the SGS2 is in the drop test on SmartphoneEnvy.com I decided to not use a case anymore as a 5 foot drop directly on the screen barely scratched the casing and the screen got no damage at all.
I am glad the solution actually works for more people and thank you for the picture. If you don't mind I will put it in my guide at the top for better illustration
It worked! Thanks alot. Let's hope it stays fixed
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Please read my post I have made the step by step instruction
Here the link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21795243&postcount=62
Cool. Even though you used rubber its cool. At least it fix the problem
Regardless of what is used it needs to be about 0.5mm think. Also remember that you might have had something underneath the speaker keeping it lifted regardless of the amount of pressure you put on it that's why its recommended to clean the speaker and the housing
Introduction:
When a button mechanically clicks, that is the signal to you that you've done your part and you should expect the button to do its part. While I've seen this on several other devices, the Nexus7 2013 apparently has a widespread problem which manifests itself in "having to press the power button a certain way". This is caused by the glue used to assemble the buttons having seeped under the contacts.
Here's the fix.
You will need:
A gituar pick
Rubbing alcohol
A Q-Tip
Superglue
Instructions:
1. Remove the back cover from the device with a gitaur pick.
2. Peel up the tape/laminate covering the power button.
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3. Clean off both contact surfaces using rubbing alcohol.
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4. Reassemble the switch by replacing the tape
5. Using just a dab of glue on the edge of the button assembly, secure the button tape/lamination back into place.
6. Reassemble the device.
Conclusion:
And that's all there is to it. You may decide to skip the superglue during reassembly, but its a good idea to use it generally as removing the tape weakens the hold of the manufacturer's adhesive.
Make no mistakes, this is a manufacturing defect and you should have the ability to return the device to get a new one if you experience this problem. But, after this procedure, the power button should work easily, every time.
I was wondering if I was the only one!
So what else can we do while we are in there?
silentheero said:
I was wondering if I was the only one!
So what else can we do while we are in there?
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Xdatv is coming up on Wednesday and I will add that into here..
Glad to see the fix is easy. Not surprised to see the issue since Asus has just been making crap in terms of quality for a while now. Nexus 7 was better then I thought not having the crap asus quality but the new one has Asus all over it. Used Asus stuff for years and after the crap G75 laptop I had I will never get anything made by Asus. Sucks I wanted a new nexus 7 guess I'll wait till Samsung or lg or Motorola makes the third version.
Asus has just dropped off a cliff the past few years. They dident even go downhill they went from great to utter budget crap even the ROG line. Waiting to see the last great Asus products go down the same way. The Rog mobos. I was really hoping Google would push some weight saying they have to do some QC on the nexus 7.
Anyways great guide. But I'll add that on electronics you want 90%+ alch. Get the colorless with no scents added. Those leave traces behind. Should not matter on buttons like this but if anyone was wondering if they could use the red or green alch. I advise you to get the highest % with no colors or sents added. At my work for cleaning pcb's we use 98% but anything over 85% is great.
This is great to find out and I really want to do this as mine suffers from this problem quite badly but I'm hoping for just a bit more detail (and that it might be helpful for others as well).
Guitar picks come in all kinds of gauges. What did you use? (Or can you at least tell us if it was a heavy, med, or light by what manufacturer?)
Are the plastic pegs (or whatever is) holding the back on very fragile? And chance of a pic of the inside of the back so we can see where they are placed?
Thanks.
mjoa68 said:
This is great to find out and I really want to do this as mine suffers from this problem quite badly but I'm hoping for just a bit more detail (and that it might be helpful for others as well).
Guitar picks come in all kinds of gauges. What did you use? (Or can you at least tell us if it was a heavy, med, or light by what manufacturer?)
Are the plastic pegs (or whatever is) holding the back on very fragile? And chance of a pic of the inside of the back so we can see where they are placed?
Thanks.
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Medium is probly best. I've got a teardown video coming up on Monday.
AdamOutler said:
Medium is probly best. I've got a teardown video coming up on Monday.
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Thanks. Good to know there is a video coming. I got impatient and just went ahead anyway.
One thing I learned is to not start by the buttons if you can (even though the case is a bit weaker and more flexible there) because you can't really work your way around the bottom due to the usb port, and if you attempt to work your way around the top corner that has the camera in it you may very well crack the case there like I did. Didn't notice until I had it back on but there is a hair line crack running from the corner to the hole that the camera looks through. It's only noticeable if you really look for it and everything is held together just fine but thought I'd mention it in case it helps anyone else avoid the same mistake. I'd say that corner will be prone to that due to the camera hole being so close to corner edge that you are trying to pry off.
Once I finished I tried again with my brother's N7 but this time started opening from the long edge opposite the buttons and worked my way around the corner to the top edge. This allowed me to essentially just pull the case off the other top corner by the camera (with the help of a bit of careful prodding with the guitar pic) and then, once I'd freed the case from the top and sides, pull it downwards away from the USB port. (Probably obvious to most but I didn't really realize until I'd done the first one that the USB port anchors the case in place so the bottom edge must come off last, and be put back on first.)
Another thing to be aware of is that there is a very small black rubber grommet sitting over the microphone port (rectangular with a round hole in the middle). It fell off when I opened the first case but I just made sure to seat it properly before putting the case back on. It didn't move when I did the second case since I was a little less rough that time around but something to be aware of and look out for. It's pretty teeny and would be easy to lose without even noticing.
Happy to report that this really did the trick in both cases. Even though I couldn't see any glue on the contacts before cleaning, both units now wake/sleep with every click, whereas before it only worked 70-80% of the time.
I'm sure it will be worth waiting for the video Adam is planning but just thought I'd share in case anyone is as impatient as me.
mjoa68 said:
Thanks. Good to know there is a video coming. I got impatient and just went ahead anyway.
One thing I learned is to not start by the buttons if you can (even though the case is a bit weaker and more flexible there) because you can't really work your way around the bottom due to the usb port, and if you attempt to work your way around the top corner that has the camera in it you may very well crack the case there like I did. Didn't notice until I had it back on but there is a hair line crack running from the corner to the hole that the camera looks through. It's only noticeable if you really look for it and everything is held together just fine but thought I'd mention it in case it helps anyone else avoid the same mistake. I'd say that corner will be prone to that due to the camera hole being so close to corner edge that you are trying to pry off.
Once I finished I tried again with my brother's N7 but this time started opening from the long edge opposite the buttons and worked my way around the corner to the top edge. This allowed me to essentially just pull the case off the other top corner by the camera (with the help of a bit of careful prodding with the guitar pic) and then, once I'd freed the case from the top and sides, pull it downwards away from the USB port. (Probably obvious to most but I didn't really realize until I'd done the first one that the USB port anchors the case in place so the bottom edge must come off last, and be put back on first.)
Another thing to be aware of is that there is a very small black rubber grommet sitting over the microphone port (rectangular with a round hole in the middle). It fell off when I opened the first case but I just made sure to seat it properly before putting the case back on. It didn't move when I did the second case since I was a little less rough that time around but something to be aware of and look out for. It's pretty teeny and would be easy to lose without even noticing.
Happy to report that this really did the trick in both cases. Even though I couldn't see any glue on the contacts before cleaning, both units now wake/sleep with every click, whereas before it only worked 70-80% of the time.
I'm sure it will be worth waiting for the video Adam is planning but just thought I'd share in case anyone is as impatient as me.
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Awesome instructions! I couldn't have stated it better. It really is a tight case though. I think starting near the buttons is fine but I worked around the top corner.
AdamOutler said:
Awesome instructions! I couldn't have stated it better. It really is a tight case though. I think starting near the buttons is fine but I worked around the top corner.
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Yes, it is definitely much easier to get into the case starting near the buttons as there's more flex to it there. I suppose a better way to say it might be that if you can get started on the opposite side you will avoid possibly cracking it near the camera like I did. But you'd probably be fine starting near the buttons as long as you're very careful (and not as clumsy or impatient as I was ) working around that first corner.
I aint never had to open up anything like this and will have to to replace my screen. So glad I found this thread first and will be sure to check out the unboxing video before I do. and Yes isopropyl is a much better cleaner than other alcohol based solutions. Gonna do them buttons while Im in there.
I would not be nearly as daring to attempt any of this without the guidance from seasoned members. Thank you so much!!
Thank you so much! the power and volume buttons worked again flawlessly!
But I damaged my N7 13's thin black metal like bezels around the screen when I'm trying to open it, that stuff is really fragile :/
i did this, but i also placed on the power button contact a small piece of 'thickener'... in my case it came from a double sided tape. the sticky part contact on the power button contact, and the other side which has the cover (of the double sided tape), i didn't remove that cover. effectively, a small 'thickener'. then close back the device. fixed!
Adam, a quick question on this power/volume button thread. I got my Nexus 7 2013 version very briefly wet - I mean for a micro second. It does charge, but it won't power up. I can get it into bootloader and the volume buttons work, however, the power button does not. Is there a good way to test the power button using a multimeter or, should I just go ahead and replace the power button/volume button strip completely and hope that does the trick?
Thanks!
Chris
Chris: wet Nexus 7 bootloader only with volume buttons
Hi Chris,
My nan also got her tablet wet and can only access the bottloader with the volume buttons. Did you find a solution to make the power button work in the end? I've got a very useless paper weight sat around :/
Mike
I lost the rubber mic grommet replacing a cracked screen even knowing it was there. After 20 plus years coding with shot eyes, I paid my 2 nephews to come over and crawl around to find it (wife's phone - nuff said). Still took over an hour to find. So I put a small amount of rubber adhesive around the edges to make it fit snug. I've had it apart 4 times since and it stays put.
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